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  • JUDY WOODRUFF: Voters in six states, as we have been saying, will have their chance to

  • weigh in on the Democratic presidential primary today.

  • As John Yang reports, the two main contenders were on the trail to make their closing arguments,

  • focusing heavily on delegate-rich Michigan.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN (D), Presidential Candidate: Michigan, I'm counting on you in a big way.

  • (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

  • JOHN YANG: The Democratic presidential field that once numbered in the dozens is now down

  • to just two. Tonight, they face off head-to-head for the first time.

  • SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), Presidential Candidate: The people of Michigan understand that there

  • are very substantive difference between Joe Biden and myself.

  • JOHN YANG: Six states hit the polls today for a total of 352 delegates, Washington,

  • Missouri, Mississippi, Idaho, North Dakota, and the biggest delegate prize, Michigan.

  • Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders scored a narrow upset win there in 2016 over Hillary Clinton,

  • propelled in part by the support of white working-class voters. His campaign is counting

  • on holding that support in 2020.

  • But former Vice President Joe Biden is leading in recent polls and has been making inroads

  • with some of those voters.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: Wall Street didn't build this country. You all built the country.

  • JOHN YANG: Earlier today, Biden met with Detroit factory workers and stressed his union roots.

  • But he also was challenged by one voter for his past statements on guns.

  • MAN: You are actively trying to diminish our Second Amendment right and take away our guns.

  • JOSEPH BIDEN: You're full of (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I support the Second Amendment.

  • JOHN YANG: Looming over the campaign season marked by handshakes, selfies and jam-packed

  • arenas, the threat of coronavirus. Not only did both candidates cancel rallies tonight...

  • MAN: Here's your hand sanitizer.

  • JOHN YANG: ... last night, Biden's team offered hand sanitizer to voters entering his Detroit

  • event.

  • And at a FOX News town hall, Sanders said the outbreak strengthens the case for Medicare

  • for all.

  • SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: You have got millions of people in this country today who may feel

  • that they have a symptom, but you know what? They cannot afford to go to a doctor.

  • JOHN YANG: As voters weigh in, in Michigan and across the country today, Biden and Sanders

  • are preparing to battle it out in primary states in the weeks to come.

  • For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm John Yang.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: We now get on-the-ground reports from states voting today.

  • And we begin with Michigan. That is, as you were hearing, the biggest prize of the night.

  • I'm joined from Ann Arbor by Tim Alberta, the chief political correspondent for Politico.

  • Tim, great to see you. Thank you for joining us.

  • So, we know Bernie Sanders eked it out four years ago. What does it look like this time?

  • TIM ALBERTA, Politico: Well, quite a bit different, Judy, to put it mildly, I think.

  • This campaign has really in some way brought some clarity to Bernie Sanders' weaknesses

  • with certain demographic groups, namely, African-Americans and suburban women. And those are two groups

  • that are going to be critical here in Michigan.

  • You know, four years ago, Hillary Clinton lost very narrowly in the state, despite beating

  • Bernie Sanders by 40 points among black voters. And if you wonder how that could possibly

  • happen, the answer is because not very many of them showed up.

  • What we're expected to see tonight is a big spike in voting across the board, and particularly

  • among African-Americans, among suburban women. And really, if Joe Biden can just sort of

  • keep Bernie Sanders from really running up the score among working-class white voters,

  • the former vice president is expected to have, I think, a very good night here.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: What is it that African-American voters are saying they see in Joe Biden?

  • TIM ALBERTA: You know, more than anything else, Judy, it's a trust that they have in

  • him, and I think, by some extension, because of the trust that Barack Obama placed in him.

  • I was with Joe Biden last night at a rally in Detroit, and it was remarkable to see some

  • of the energy, the enthusiasm among black voters for Joe Biden that you just, frankly,

  • didn't see for Hillary Clinton four years ago.

  • And when I talked with some of those voters, they essentially all said the same thing.

  • Look, we know this man. We have a relationship with him. We trust him. People who we trust

  • vouch for him. He's been here to our community in Detroit time after time. He's fought for

  • us. We have gotten to know him.

  • So there is just an intimacy with Joe Biden that, frankly, a lot of these voters have

  • not had with other candidates.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: Tim Alberta with Politico, thank you so much.

  • TIM ALBERTA: Thank you, Judy.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: And now to Mississippi, where the polls close in just under two hours.

  • And I'm joined by Adam Ganucheau of Mississippi Today. It is a nonprofit news organization

  • based in Jackson.

  • So, Adam, we have just been listening to Tim Alberta talk about what the African-American

  • voters, what many of them see in Joe Biden in Michigan. What about in Mississippi, where

  • I believe African-Americans make up, what, 75 percent of the Democratic primary vote?

  • ADAM GANUCHEAU, Mississippi Today: That's right, Judy.

  • You know, 75 percent-ish of Democratic primary voters in the state are African-American.

  • Mississippi itself, just in terms of population, has the highest percentage of African-American

  • residents of any state in the country.

  • What Tim was saying about Michigan and sort of Joe Biden's success, particularly with

  • African-American voters there, is true here. I really do think there is a trust factor

  • here with former Vice President Biden.

  • You know, you hear all the time from Mississippi voters who have really put a lot of their

  • faith and trust in President Obama over the years and certainly, by extension, President

  • -- Vice President Biden.

  • You know, while that's the case, voters here are not monolithic. No demographic is in any

  • state. I know this. Jackson Mayor Chokwe Antar Lumumba, who is an African-American sort of

  • seen as a rising star in the national progressive wing of the Democratic Party, he endorsed

  • Sanders.

  • So, you know, looking here at Mississippi, I think we can expect a sizable victory for

  • Biden tonight. But there will be some African-American voters who do end up casting their votes for

  • Senator Sanders tonight.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: And just very quickly, you were saying there is what you might call an

  • establishment piece or wing of the Democratic vote, as well as a progressive piece.

  • ADAM GANUCHEAU: That's right. That's right.

  • You know, the establishment, I'd say the more moderate Democrats in Mississippi certainly

  • have held the power here. That has not changed in the last four years. You can look at four

  • years ago, the Clinton-Sanders race in Mississippi.

  • Mississippi provided Hillary Clinton, sort of that establishment Democratic pick, with

  • her largest margin of victory of any state in the country, with 83 percent, to Sanders'

  • 16.5 percent.

  • So, yes, you're right, Judy, that's certainly the case. There is a progressive faction in

  • this state, but it's just not sizable enough, I don't think, to win too many delegates for

  • Sanders today.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: Adam Ganucheau, reporting from Jackson, Mississippi, thank you, Adam.

  • And we will see you later tonight.

  • And now onto Washington state. It has the second biggest pot of delegates at stake in

  • tonight's contests.

  • Joining us from Seattle is Donna Blankinship. She's the politics editor at the PBS member

  • station KCTS-9 Crosscut.

  • So, Donna, 89 delegates at stake. Bernie Sanders did very well there four years ago. What's

  • it looking like now?

  • DONNA BLANKINSHIP, KCTS-9 Crosscut: It's looking -- the last polls show they were tied, Bernie

  • Sanders and the former vice president.

  • But now we think that Joe Biden is on the ascension, according to our pollster. So it

  • could -- anything could happen, but it looks like late voters are pushing toward Biden.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: And four years ago, you had, what, caucuses. This time, you are switching

  • to a primary.

  • How do you think that's affecting -- what do you hear from voters about how that may

  • affect...

  • DONNA BLANKINSHIP: So...

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: Go ahead.

  • DONNA BLANKINSHIP: So, we're expecting record turnouts.

  • I talked to the secretary of state today, Kim Wyman. She said that she expects 60 percent

  • of registered voters to turn in ballots by the end of today. And last -- four years ago,

  • the caucuses went for Bernie Sanders, but the -- we also had a primary, which was just

  • a beauty contest, and it went for Hillary Clinton.

  • So, Washington, you just don't know what's going to happen. We're an interesting state.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: No question about it. We will be watching.

  • But you're absolutely right. You had both the caucuses and the so-called beauty contest

  • primary four years ago. This time, it's just -- no caucuses.

  • DONNA BLANKINSHIP: Yes, that's right, no caucuses.

  • Well, there will be caucuses to choose the delegates, but that's just a party function.

  • The actual delegates will be assigned according to the primary vote.

  • JUDY WOODRUFF: All right.

  • Donna Blankinship with KCTS, very good to see you. Thank you so much.

  • DONNA BLANKINSHIP: Thank you, Judy.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Voters in six states, as we have been saying, will have their chance to

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