DEFENSE. >> LET’S START ACTUALLY TALKING

>> LET’S START ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE JURY SELECTION

ABOUT THE JURY SELECTION PROCESS.

PROCESS. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AND HOPE FROM

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AND HOPE FROM THIS PROCESS?

THIS PROCESS? >> WELL, WHAT I HOPE FOR MOST,

>> WELL, WHAT I HOPE FOR MOST, OBVIOUSLY, ARE FAIR JURORS.

OBVIOUSLY, ARE FAIR JURORS. I’M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

I’M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YES,

WILLING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YES, I’VE SEEN MEDIA COVERAGE ON THIS

I’VE SEEN MEDIA COVERAGE ON THIS BECAUSE I DON’T THINK IT’S

BECAUSE I DON’T THINK IT’S REALISTIC TO THINK WE’LL FIND

REALISTIC TO THINK WE’LL FIND ANYONE WHO HASN’T.

ANYONE WHO HASN’T. SO LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO SAY, I

SO LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO SAY, I CAN BE FAIR.

CAN BE FAIR. >> HOW DO YOU ESTABLISH THAT?

>> HOW DO YOU ESTABLISH THAT? >> I THINK A LOT OF IT IS A GUT

>> I THINK A LOT OF IT IS A GUT FEELING I HAVE.

FEELING I HAVE. YOU START TO TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU

YOU START TO TALK TO PEOPLE, YOU PICK UP ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT

PICK UP ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY SAY AND ANSWERS THAT THEY

THEY SAY AND ANSWERS THAT THEY GIVE TO QUESTIONS AND I THINK

GIVE TO QUESTIONS AND I THINK OVERALL, WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN

OVERALL, WHAT I HAVE FOUND IN MOST OF MY JURY SELECTION

MOST OF MY JURY SELECTION PROCESSES IN THE PAST IS JURORS,

PROCESSES IN THE PAST IS JURORS, ONCE THEY ARE SWORN INTO A CASE,

ONCE THEY ARE SWORN INTO A CASE, REALLY DO WANT TO BE FAIR.

REALLY DO WANT TO BE FAIR. AND SO WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED

AND SO WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND PEOPLE

TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE AT LEAST WILLING TO BE

WHO ARE AT LEAST WILLING TO BE FAIR AND IN MANY WAYS I THINK

FAIR AND IN MANY WAYS I THINK THE FACTS OF THIS CASE LEND TO

THE FACTS OF THIS CASE LEND TO ME BEING ABLE TO CHANGE PEOPLE’S

ME BEING ABLE TO CHANGE PEOPLE’S MINDS EVEN IF THEY COME IN WITH

MINDS EVEN IF THEY COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECONCEIVED

A LITTLE BIT OF A PRECONCEIVED NOTION ON WHAT THEY THINK REALLY

NOTION ON WHAT THEY THINK REALLY HAPPENED HERE.

HAPPENED HERE. >> DO YOU THINK IT’S POSSIBLE

>> DO YOU THINK IT’S POSSIBLE THAT YOU MAY HAVE JURORS SITTING

THAT YOU MAY HAVE JURORS SITTING THERE WHO HAVE A PRECONCEIVED

THERE WHO HAVE A PRECONCEIVED NOTION AS TO INNOCENCE OR GUILT?

NOTION AS TO INNOCENCE OR GUILT? >> SURE.

>> SURE. I THINK IT’S DIFFICULT NOT TO.

I THINK IT’S DIFFICULT NOT TO. ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING HAS

ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING HAS HAD THE MEDIA COVERAGE THAT THIS

HAD THE MEDIA COVERAGE THAT THIS CASE HAS HAD AND THE WIDESPREAD

CASE HAS HAD AND THE WIDESPREAD COVERAGE IT’S HAD NATIONALLY AND

COVERAGE IT’S HAD NATIONALLY AND IN THE WORLD.

IN THE WORLD. I THINK IT’S UNREALISTIC FOR ME

I THINK IT’S UNREALISTIC FOR ME TO THINK PEOPLE DON’T AT LEAST

TO THINK PEOPLE DON’T AT LEAST HAVE SOME THOUGHT ON IT.

HAVE SOME THOUGHT ON IT. BUT, AGAIN, I THINK ONCE

BUT, AGAIN, I THINK ONCE PEOPLE -- IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN

PEOPLE -- IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU READ A HEADLINE AND COME IN

YOU READ A HEADLINE AND COME IN WITH AN IDEA THAN WHEN YOU’RE

WITH AN IDEA THAN WHEN YOU’RE ACTUALLY SITTING IN A CRIMINAL

ACTUALLY SITTING IN A CRIMINAL COURTROOM AND LISTENING TO

COURTROOM AND LISTENING TO ACTUAL REAL EVIDENCE, LISTENING

ACTUAL REAL EVIDENCE, LISTENING TO WITNESSES TESTIFY, LISTEN TO

TO WITNESSES TESTIFY, LISTEN TO THEM BEING CROSS EXAMINED SO I

THEM BEING CROSS EXAMINED SO I THINK EVEN INITIALLY IF THERE’S

THINK EVEN INITIALLY IF THERE’S PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRECONCEIVED

PEOPLE WHO HAVE PRECONCEIVED IDEAS, HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN AT

IDEAS, HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN AT LEAST FIND ONES THAT ARE WILLING

LEAST FIND ONES THAT ARE WILLING TO BE FAIR EVEN IN SPITE OF

TO BE FAIR EVEN IN SPITE OF THOSE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT

THOSE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONVENTION

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONVENTION THEM.

THEM. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE,

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING ACCUSERS, WHO SEE THIS

INCLUDING ACCUSERS, WHO SEE THIS TRIAL AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF

TRIAL AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF SOMETHING MUCH LARGER THAN JUST

SOMETHING MUCH LARGER THAN JUST A TRIAL.

A TRIAL. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE JOB

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE TO DO?

THAT YOU HAVE TO DO? >> IT CAN’T AFFECT THE JOB THAT

>> IT CAN’T AFFECT THE JOB THAT I HAVE TO DO.

I HAVE TO DO. I THINK I NEED TO DROWN OUT THE

I THINK I NEED TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE.

NOISE. I THINK THAT’S THE MOST

I THINK THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY THAT I CAN GO

IMPORTANT WAY THAT I CAN GO FORWARD WHEN HANDLING THIS CASE.

FORWARD WHEN HANDLING THIS CASE. IF I ALLOW THAT TO SORT OF

IF I ALLOW THAT TO SORT OF PERMEATE MY ABILITIES OR THE

PERMEATE MY ABILITIES OR THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND HERE,

GOALS THAT WE HAVE IN MIND HERE, I THINK THAT’S WHEN WE GET IN

I THINK THAT’S WHEN WE GET IN TROUBLE.

TROUBLE. I UNDERSTAND IT’S OUT THERE,

I UNDERSTAND IT’S OUT THERE, CLEARLY.

CLEARLY. I’M VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SORT

I’M VERY WELL AWARE OF THE SORT OF SOCIAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT

OF SOCIAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT THIS TYPE OF A CASE PLAYS.

THIS TYPE OF A CASE PLAYS. BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, WHAT --

BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, WHAT -- WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE FOUR

WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE FOUR WALLS OF THAT COURTROOM IS

WALLS OF THAT COURTROOM IS REALLY THE KEY.

REALLY THE KEY. THE KEY FACTOR FOR US.

THE KEY FACTOR FOR US. >> DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE A

>> DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE A STRONG DEFENSE?

STRONG DEFENSE? >> I DO.

>> I DO. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG

I THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG DERST.

DERST. DEFENSE.

DEFENSE. I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED

I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED ONCE THEY HEAR THE EVIDENCE COME

ONCE THEY HEAR THE EVIDENCE COME OUT.

OUT. >> WHY?

>> WHY? HOW CAN YOU BE SO CONFIDENT

HOW CAN YOU BE SO CONFIDENT ABOUT IT TODAY?

ABOUT IT TODAY? >> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU

>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT.

HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT. TOM BRADY DOESN’T GO TO THE

TOM BRADY DOESN’T GO TO THE SUPER BOWL AND SAY, I DIDN’T

SUPER BOWL AND SAY, I DIDN’T COME HERE TO WIN.

COME HERE TO WIN. YOU GO INTO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES

YOU GO INTO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES TO WIN.

TO WIN. SO I THINK FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO

SO I THINK FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO GO IN BELIEVING THAT YOU CAN WIN

GO IN BELIEVING THAT YOU CAN WIN BECAUSE WHY DO THAT IF YOU

BECAUSE WHY DO THAT IF YOU DON’T?

DON’T? BUT IN TERMS OF THE FACTS AND

BUT IN TERMS OF THE FACTS AND THE EVIDENCE AND THE WITNESSES

THE EVIDENCE AND THE WITNESSES AND STORIES THAT THEY’VE TOLD IN

AND STORIES THAT THEY’VE TOLD IN THE PAST AND THE WAY I THINK

THE PAST AND THE WAY I THINK THEY’RE GOING TO COME ACROSS ON

THEY’RE GOING TO COME ACROSS ON THE WITNESS STAND, I THINK WE’RE

THE WITNESS STAND, I THINK WE’RE IN A GOOD POSITION.

IN A GOOD POSITION. >> YOU SAID RECENTLY THAT YOU DO

>> YOU SAID RECENTLY THAT YOU DO NOT THINK HARVEY WEINSTEIN IS

NOT THINK HARVEY WEINSTEIN IS GUILTY OF RAPE.

GUILTY OF RAPE. THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF

THERE HAVE BEEN DOZENS OF ACCUSERS.

ACCUSERS. HOW CAN YOU BE SO CERTAIN THAT

HOW CAN YOU BE SO CERTAIN THAT HE ISN’T GUILTY OF RAPE?

HE ISN’T GUILTY OF RAPE? >> I THINK MY CERTAINTY COMES

>> I THINK MY CERTAINTY COMES FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT I LOOK AT

FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT I LOOK AT AND THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I

AND THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT I SEE THAT HARVEY HAS HAD WITH

SEE THAT HARVEY HAS HAD WITH WOMEN AND, YOU KNOW, SO FOR MY

WOMEN AND, YOU KNOW, SO FOR MY PURPOSES I LOOK AT THE LAW.

PURPOSES I LOOK AT THE LAW. I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND MAKE A

I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON THOSE

DETERMINATION BASED ON THOSE THINGS.

THINGS. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY LOOK AT THE DEFENSE AS BEING

MAY LOOK AT THE DEFENSE AS BEING SOMEHOW AN ACCUSATION THAT ALL

SOMEHOW AN ACCUSATION THAT ALL OF THE ACCUSERS ARE LIES.

OF THE ACCUSERS ARE LIES. THAT ALL OF THESE STORIES ARE

THAT ALL OF THESE STORIES ARE SOMEHOW FABRICATED UNFAIRLY

SOMEHOW FABRICATED UNFAIRLY AGAINST HARVEY WEINSTEIN.

AGAINST HARVEY WEINSTEIN. IS HE GUILTY OF SOME OF THE

IS HE GUILTY OF SOME OF THE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HE’S BEEN

SEXUAL MISCONDUCT HE’S BEEN ACCUSED OF?

ACCUSED OF? >> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I’M HIS

>> YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I’M HIS CRIMINAL LAWYER AND FOCUSING ON

CRIMINAL LAWYER AND FOCUSING ON THE CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT I’M

THE CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT I’M HAPPY TO SAY THAT I DON’T THINK

HAPPY TO SAY THAT I DON’T THINK ANYONE IS TRYING TO COME OUT

ANYONE IS TRYING TO COME OUT INTO THE WORLD, COME OUT IN

INTO THE WORLD, COME OUT IN FRONT OF PRESS, COME OUT IN

FRONT OF PRESS, COME OUT IN FRONT OF A JURY, AND SAY THAT

FRONT OF A JURY, AND SAY THAT HARVEY WEINSTEIN DIDN’T MAKE

HARVEY WEINSTEIN DIDN’T MAKE MISTAKES OR THAT HARVEY

MISTAKES OR THAT HARVEY WEINSTEIN MADE BAD CHOICES.

WEINSTEIN MADE BAD CHOICES. AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IS

AND SEXUAL MISCONDUCT IS DIFFERENT THAN SEXUAL ASSAULT.

DIFFERENT THAN SEXUAL ASSAULT. SO WHEN WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, 80

SO WHEN WE HEAR, YOU KNOW, 80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF

WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, THAT’S JUST NOT

SEXUAL ASSAULT, THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE.

TRUE. 80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF

80 WOMEN HAVE ACCUSED HARVEY OF A VARIETY OF THINGS, SOME BEING

A VARIETY OF THINGS, SOME BEING SEXUAL IN NATURE.

SEXUAL IN NATURE. SOME NOT BEING.

SOME NOT BEING. SOME BEING I DIDN’T GET TREATED

SOME BEING I DIDN’T GET TREATED NICELY AT WORK.

NICELY AT WORK. SOME, YOU KNOW, HE ASKED ME FOR

SOME, YOU KNOW, HE ASKED ME FOR A MASSAGE.

A MASSAGE. THERE’S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF

THERE’S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE

DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

BEEN MADE. AND SO IT’S -- WE HAVE TO MAKE

AND SO IT’S -- WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT

SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT ALL, YOU KNOW, FROM TREATING

ALL, YOU KNOW, FROM TREATING SOMEONE POORLY AT WORK, TO

SOMEONE POORLY AT WORK, TO ASKING SOMEONE FOR A MASSAGE, TO

ASKING SOMEONE FOR A MASSAGE, TO RAPE, THERE’S A BIG JUMP THERE.

RAPE, THERE’S A BIG JUMP THERE. AND SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT

AND SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT SOME OF THIS PRESS, ONCE JURORS

SOME OF THIS PRESS, ONCE JURORS SIT IN A COURTROOM AND ACTUALLY

SIT IN A COURTROOM AND ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE FACT THAT, OH,

LISTEN TO THE FACT THAT, OH, THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO

THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO CHARGED WOMEN HERE, I NEED TO

CHARGED WOMEN HERE, I NEED TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE MORE

LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE MORE SKEPTICALLY THAN I ORIGINALLY

SKEPTICALLY THAN I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT I MAY HAVE TO.

THOUGHT THAT I MAY HAVE TO. SO IN SOME WAYS I THINK THAT

SO IN SOME WAYS I THINK THAT THAT MAY HELP US.

THAT MAY HELP US. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE YOU WANT TO

IMPORTANT MESSAGE YOU WANT TO GET ACROSS AS A DEFENSE

GET ACROSS AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY?

ATTORNEY? >> I THINK FOR ME THE MOST

>> I THINK FOR ME THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE I CAN GET

IMPORTANT MESSAGE I CAN GET ACROSS IS THE FACT THAT HARVEY

ACROSS IS THE FACT THAT HARVEY HAS A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL.

HAS A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL. AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK

AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE

ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LEVIED AGAINST HIM, YOU

BEEN LEVIED AGAINST HIM, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE SYSTEM

HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE SYSTEM OF JUSTICE IS BIGGER THAN HARVEY

OF JUSTICE IS BIGGER THAN HARVEY WEINSTEIN AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT

WEINSTEIN AND IF WE BELIEVE THAT HARVEY, HIMSELF, DOESN’T HAVE A

HARVEY, HIMSELF, DOESN’T HAVE A RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL, THEN