Whensheperformedhersinging, heywasoccasionallyallowedtoperform a monologue, a littlesoliloquyfromShakespeareorsomething, whichhewasasbadatdoingasshewasbadatsinging.
AndSimon, howdidyoucometotheproject?
Uh, itwas I gotanemailthat I thoughtwasspambecauseithadMerylStreepcename, innit?
AndStephenFrearsandHugh.
And, uh, I didn't understandwhat's happening, but I hadworkedwiththecastingthecastingdirector, uh, whoironicallyisnamedKathleenChopin.
Umandshestevenwaslookingforthisguy, I I thinkallhehadsaidwashesortofmuttered, I thinkBusterKeaton I don't evenknow.
Um, hedoesn't speakalwaysinfullsentences, So, uh, butshecametoe, shesendhimto l.
A.
Andnowhemetwithme.
And I think I wastheonlypersonthathemetwith, andhejusthejusttrustedher, uh, blindly.
Sosomehowthere, there I was.
Yeah.
AndthenAnd I wasthat I don't knowifhejustdidn't wanttolookatanybodyelsebecausehewasdidn't havethepatients, but I kindofcutinlineandyeah, I wouldhavedoneanythingtobeinit.
I mean, youmadeespeciallyyouplayCarnegieHallinthemovie.
SohowhowdoyouHowdidyoumakeitsobelievable?
Um, why?
I playeditall I decided.
I guessitwas.
That's howitwasbelievable.
Um I, uhYeah, I playedreallywell, but I didn't playclassicaloroperas, so I hadto.
I tookabout, I think, fiveorsixlessons, and I practicedforthreeorfourmonths.
Um, and I learnedthepiecesasbest I could, And I learnedhowtofakeclassicaltechnique.
I guess, umandthen I gotbetteratit, andbetter.
Andah, Andthenwhen I metwithMerylonce I knewallthesongsbackwardsandforwards, I wasabletojustwereabletojusttake a sledgehammertoitandkindof, youknow, destroythem.
I thinkthat's whatmakesittolerableandactuallykindofintriguing.
AndHugh, I havetoaskyou, youarereallyselective.
Youdon't workverymuch.
Whataboutthisproject?
Said I needtodothis.
Well, itistruethat, uh, a coupleofyearsago I waslargelydoingotherthingsinlife.
ButStephenFrizzgetbumpingintohimpoliticaleventsinLondon, andhekeptsayingthisto a filmordo a filmon.
Then, tomygreatsurprise, heactuallysuddenlysentmethescript, whichwasfunnyandtouchingandhadrather a goodpartformeandhadhimdirecting.
He's prettyclassyonDDEMerrill.
19 Oscarnominations.
Streepistheotherpart, so I hadtodoit.
Plus, youguysshotinLondon.
Well, that's noparticulartemptation.
I mean, ifwehadthemoneywithyou, we'd haveshothere.
Still, andsomuchofthestoryishowyouguysbothinthemovieprotectherfromtherealitiesofherownweaknesses, I guesswouldbetherightword.
Doyouthinkthatwastherightthingtodo?
Um, well, I'm a greatbelieverinlyingon I Sometimes, youknow, after I a premiereofmineor a ahplayorsomething, friendswillcomebackstageandsay, Doyoumindif I'm honest?
AndtheanswerisYes.
I bloodydo.
I I requireyoutolieon.
Um I thinkhonestyisgreatlyoverrated.
Whataboutyou?
You'vealwaystoldme I wassogreat.
Sothat's uhOkay.
Well, maybe I likelyingtothem.
Uh, yeah.
Ah, yeah.
Whatyousaid, um, I will, I thinkthat, butwhatwasthequestionwithwhetheritwas a goodthingor a badthingtoknowthatshewassocoddledandprotectedfromtherealities?
I thinkit's Yeah.
I mean, I thinkthemovieismoreof a question.
I guessthenitis a statement.
So I thinkthereis a littlebitofmoralambiguity, um, intermsof, youknow, allowingallowingsomebodytolivethelifethattheywannaliveandtobringthejoythattheywanttobringtosomething, eveniftheydon't havetheability.
Um, I thinkitjustbringsupthequestionofperception.
I mean, herperceptionofherselfisverydifferentthanotherpeople's perception.
And I guessthat's alwaysthecase.
Uh, andthis, youknow, walksthatlineof, um, I guessyouknowherdreamscouldwecouldhavekilledherdreamsandit's It's, I don't knowwhowouldhavereallybenefitedfromthat.
SodoyouthinkofFlorencewouldbepossibletoday?
Well, no, becauseofthere's thisthingcalledtheInternet, which, youknow, shewouldhavebeenabsolutelytakentopieces.
I thinkTwitterintwosecondsflat, anditwouldhavebeenimpossibleforpeoplelikethecharacter I play a characterSimonplaystoprotectherfrombadreviewsbecausetheyjustwouldhavebeenalloverhertelephoneand a computer.
Whereasinthefilm, ofcourse, youknow, I bribethesixmutemusiccriticsofNewYorktowritenicethingsaboutheronthe 7th 1 whodoesdaretowritesomethingbad?
I justbuyupallthenewspapersatthelocalnewspaperstandtomakesureshedoesn't seeit.
I don't thinkthatwouldbepossibleanymore.
I knowthatwasactuallysoquaintwhenhedoesthat.
I waslike, Ah, thosewerethedayswhenyoucouldactuallycontrolthespreadofinformationorvitriolasthecasemaybe.
Yeah, yeah, I thinkthat's right.
Didthatreally.
I kindoffeltespeciallywiththeworkthatyou'vedonewithLevinsonandhackedoffHugh, thatwhentheNewYorkPostreporterwrotethatdamningreviewbasicallyfornoreasonthatthatmusthavereallyresonatedwithyou.
Well, no.
Thestuff I dothepoliticsstuff I doinLondonhackedoffisnothingtodowiththemanythingtodowithshowbusinessorcelebrities.
I thinkthatsomeofthewell I enjoy, I I gottowatchyoudance, whichwasformewasfunbecause I justhadto I think I hadtosortofraise a handupthathehadtodo a lotofheavylifting.
Um, butsomeofthosebiggerscenes, actually, I thoughtwerereallyfun.
You'd thinkitwouldbeoverwhelming, buttheysetupsomanycamerasand, uh, itfelt, I mean, sometimesonthe 10thtakeofdoing a concert, itwasexhausting.
But I thinkthat's that's kindoffun.
I mean, you'vebeenonfilmsets, youknowwhatit's like, And I wouldhavethoughtforyou, because I'm fascinatedbyhisotherlifedoingthebigbangtheorysecretlythatit's doneinhalfand I recordedinhalfanhourago.
Nowit's It's a fewhours, butitisveryterrifyingflight.
But I thinkit's todowiththecomplexityofthepartthatyoucan't quitemakehimout.
Ishegoodorbadfor a bit?
Maybe.
That's interesting.
Um, butSimon's isanextraordinaryachievementbecausehe's doingliterallyspinningtwoplates, simultaneously, spinning a comedyplatethreeplates, comedy, play a dramaticplateandplayingsomeofthemosthardestpianopiecesintheworld.
Because, aseveryoneknows, normally, whenyoushoot a filminvolvingmusic, themusicisprerecorded, andthenyoumindtothemusiconDDE.
That's actuallyreally, reallyincredible, and I thinkthat's whatmakesthemusicalscenesworksomuch, especiallythefirstscenewhereyouare, I guess, auditioningforthejobandyourfacialexpressionsare a thingofwonder.
Thankyou.
I have a veryfunnyface.
Uh, saidallthegirls, allthegirlssayso, Uh, yeah, I think I mean, I justwasconcernedatsomepointaboutbeingabletoplaythesepieces, beingabletogetthroughthem.
And I thought, Whocares?
If I complain, whydon't theyjusthiresomebodythatcanplaythesepieces?
I I'm anactor.
StephenFrearsmaynotknowthathedoesn't knowmywork, buthe'llfindoutondayonethat I'm anactor, Umandah, and I itjustdoesn't matterthatWhywhat?
I don't wantittobe a pointofpridethatifyousitthroughthecredits, you'llseethevery, very, veryendthat I actuallyplayedit.
Andthat's somethingthatpeopleshould.
Butthenoncewediditandnow, once I'veseenit, I actuallyrealizethat I dothinkitmadethosescenes.
I don't wanttoseeiftheywouldn't haveworkedwithoutit, but I thinkitmadethemcometolifein a waythatitprobablywouldn't have.
I knowhowdifficultitiswhen I didthisfilm, musicandlyricsinwhich I was a popstarand I hadtosingandplaythepiano.
I knowifmywifeisdoingthesamethingyoudidtoeFlorence, itis a littlebitof a weirdparanoia.
Doesn't thisresonateforyouinsomeway, Thismovie?
Notnotthattheentirethateverythingis a sham.
Butdon't youhave a littlebitoffearthatwhenyouwalkawayfromsomebodythatwasbeingnicethantheystartlaughingorthatsomebodythatsaystheythinkyou'regreatandyou'vealwaysgotTwittertoputyoustraight?
Yeah, that's why I'm afraidtheyareruthless.
I knoweveryeveryimperfection, myfaceandmypersonality.
Andif I seeanysignsofseditionorcriticism, anyenemyofthestate, I justcutthemoutofmylife.
Whataboutyou?
I thinkthat, uh, I mywifesaysshe's honestwithme, butah, andsheseemstobe, umandshe's toldme.
I don't knowifshe's toldmewhenithasn't beengood, butit's, butshe's I cantellwiththeinflectionwhenitwhenshereallymeansit.
I don't knowifthat's yeah, it's allaboutinflections.
I rememberdoingHamletwhen I was 21 whichwedidcontroversiallyinStarTrekcostumes, and I sensed a thetimethatperhapspeopleweren't enjoyingitasmuchas I thoughttheyshould.
I thought I wasmarvelous, but I remember a verygoodactresscominguptomeafterwardsandsaying, Yeah, what?
Whatyoudidwasfine.
Andi, I'm fine, I thinkisaboutasdamningasyoucanget.
That's a hardonetoeveninflectpositively.
Yeah, that's fine.
Fine.
Fine.
Yeah, it's done.
It's reallydoesn't haveenough.
So I don't likesweetmucheither.
Yeah, thatwasreallysweet.
Film, right?
Orcongratulationsisalwaysagain.
Theinflection, I guess, canchangeit.
But I'vehadfriendswhoafter a place, Sometimestheyjustsaycongratulations.
No, butreallysayingclarityshowssuch a differentsideofyou.
Didyoubaseitonanyone?
I'vehad a few.
I scribbleddown a fewmodelsinmythousandsofpagesofnotesthat I madeoutofsheerpanicattheideaofdoingthisfilm.
Ah, ontheword, Theparallels.
I'm justtryingtothinkif I couldnameanyofthemwithoutthemsuingme, I don't I don't think I can.
Really?
Butyeah, thatpeople I'veknownwhoare, forinstance, famousdivaactresseswhohad a kindofsmooth, aristocratickindoftoyboyondumb.
I usedthoseguys.
Well, I youguysReally?
Congratulations.
No, sayit.
I'm notgonnasayjokesover.
No, butitreallyis a greatmovie.
Andyouguyswerestellarinit.
Audiencequestions, please.
Hi, gentlemen.
Thankyousomuchforbeingheretoday.
Sobeingthestaffthat I am, I gotreallytearyeyedforthetrailerbecauseitseemsreallytouching.
And I wasjustwondering, whatwillyoucarryawaywithyoufrombeingpartofthisfilm?
Um, you'reverynicetobepositive.
And I believedyou.
Sothat's verynotgreatinflection.
Yeah, whatwecarryaway?
Well, um, I'm alwaysverynegativeaboutthebusiness, but I willsay, uh, whenfilmseemstoworkWhenyousitin a cinemawithanaudience, you'veneverseenitbeforeandtheyactuallydoGoharharharonboohoohoo!
It's unbelievablysatisfying.
Thereisnogreaterhighinlife, Andre.
Whatyoutakeawayis a feelingofsmugness.
Yes, I justfeelbetterthanthat's allbetterthaneveryoneherebetterthanno.
Um, yeah, I don't think I couldsayitbetterIt I'vegottentoseeit a fewtimeswithanaudience, andandaudiencesdon't lie.