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  • We're going to make a record.

  • Wonderful bunny.

  • Try another taste.

  • Well, I don't see why that seemed perfect to me when I was 16 years old.

  • My father told me that if I didn't give up music, he'd cut me off course he didn't understand.

  • Music is my life, Moon.

  • That's me, sir.

  • Maestro, this is the talented young man I was telling you about.

  • Let's get started.

  • Eyes remarkable, isn't she?

  • Can be a little flat flash.

  • It defies medical science.

  • Maestro, do you think I'm ready?

  • Her comes.

  • Expand your diaphragm, Florence.

  • Tha I think Madam Florence might need to.

  • More lessons, please.

  • My wife is ill singing.

  • It's her dream.

  • And I'm going to give it time.

  • We have to help her because without loyalty, there's nothing.

  • You know, I played for the president when I was eight years old.

  • Really Little Miss faster.

  • They called me.

  • I had very high hopes of becoming a concert pianist, but then when the nerves were damaged in my left hand, that's not to be.

  • Her condition is improving, but it's a secret music.

  • She lives for music.

  • That was Florence Foster Jenkins.

  • How did she get on the radio.

  • I lost my left leg Guadalcanal.

  • But that dance got me happy to be alive.

  • The lady is a lesson in courage.

  • And we love God.

  • She must never see this.

  • I'd like every copy of the post that you have.

  • Just think this might be too much for this.

  • My favorite place.

  • And I'm going to sing here.

  • I cannot play Carnegie Hall with Madam.

  • Florence will be murdered up there.

  • Music is important.

  • You should not be mine.

  • She has done more for musical life of this city than anyone.

  • And that includes you.

  • 3000 people.

  • They need joy.

  • They need music.

  • Got Florence.

  • You must go on.

  • This is what we live for, isn't it?

  • It's going very, very, very well, but hi, guys.

  • Hi.

  • Hello.

  • I'm gonna open by asking.

  • How much did you guys know of the rial, Florence?

  • Because this is a real person and her singing voice.

  • And, well, I'm a kingdom called.

  • Uh uh, maneuverings.

  • Vocal maneuverings were thing of wonder.

  • I had not heard of her.

  • Um, luckily, I guess so.

  • I I didn't have to.

  • I I could just spend the time making this movie being exposed to that kind of shrill, uh, flailing.

  • And it was new.

  • My ears were were prepared and had never, ever been tainted by that sound.

  • But yeah, nothing.

  • Nothing Until I read the script, Have you?

  • Have you heard of her?

  • Well, as a very strange sound up.

  • Do you think it's strange?

  • It's Zoe.

  • Continue here because I can't hear myself.

  • Could be saying anything.

  • Yes, I want.

  • In my twenties, people used to pass around cassette tapes off Florence Foster Jenkins.

  • They were kind of viral.

  • It was the old viral analog bar on dhe.

  • Just because it was a funny thing to listen to, you know, parties and stuff.

  • So I knew she existed.

  • But I didn't know the details.

  • Yeah, I had.

  • Ah.

  • Why do you think he stayed with her for so long?

  • Why did my character Yes, thank husband.

  • Stay with her for so long?

  • Her common law husband, right?

  • What?

  • Well, that's right.

  • How how you would define the relationship.

  • Yeah, well, that's that's kind of, um, one of the subjects of the film, because you sort of wonder is this Does this man really love her or is it self interest?

  • You know, because he was a penniless, bad bit part actor when he met her.

  • And, of course, she provided him with a wonderful, affluent lifestyle on a position in New York society on dhe.

  • So you ask yourself, Is a unit for that?

  • Or did he really love this strange old woman with terrible voice?

  • And hopefully, by the end of the film, it's It's becomes clear that he did properly love her.

  • He was a monologue assed, right?

  • I love that title.

  • Yeah, really?

  • I feel like my next career.

  • I need to be a monologue assed.

  • You shall be.

  • Yeah.

  • When she performed her singing, hey was occasionally allowed to perform a monologue, a little soliloquy from Shakespeare or something, which he was as bad at doing as she was bad at singing.

  • And Simon, how did you come to the project?

  • Uh, it was I got an email that I thought was spam because it had Meryl Streep ce name, innit?

  • And Stephen Frears and Hugh.

  • And, uh, I didn't understand what's happening, but I had worked with the casting the casting director, uh, who ironically is named Kathleen Chopin.

  • Um and she steven was looking for this guy, I I think all he had said was he sort of muttered, I think Buster Keaton I don't even know.

  • Maybe he was just dreaming and he muttered something out loud.

  • Um, he doesn't speak always in full sentences, So, uh, but she came toe, she send him to l.

  • A.

  • And now he met with me.

  • And I think I was the only person that he met with, and he just he just trusted her, uh, blindly.

  • So somehow there, there I was.

  • Yeah.

  • And then And I was that I don't know if he just didn't want to look at anybody else because he was didn't have the patients, but I kind of cut in line and yeah, I would have done anything to be in it.

  • Just I didn't have to do anything.

  • Now, as you were saying backstage, you do you know how to play piano?

  • But how did you become so proficient?

  • I mean, you made especially you play Carnegie Hall in the movie.

  • So how how do you How did you make it so believable?

  • Um, why?

  • I played it all I decided.

  • I guess it was.

  • That's how it was believable.

  • Um I, uh Yeah, I played really well, but I didn't play classical or operas, so I had to.

  • I took about, I think, five or six lessons, and I practiced for three or four months.

  • Um, and I learned the pieces as best I could, And I learned how to fake classical technique.

  • I guess, um and then I got better at it, and better.

  • And ah, And then when I met with Meryl once I knew all the songs backwards and forwards, I was able to just were able to just take a sledgehammer to it and kind of, you know, destroy them.

  • Merrill has a pretty amazing singing voice in real life.

  • How did what process did you guys see her go through to sound this abysmal?

  • Well, she she learned all these pieces.

  • I think also, uh, well, so she she actually could sing.

  • She really could sing these very well.

  • And then I think once you know that your ableto once we're able to kind of do the, uh you know, the realistic that the realism you can you can do the abstract version.

  • So she she could she could kind of come right up next to the note and sort of dance around it and kind of pop through it from time to time.

  • And she's very close to hitting all the right notes, and so is Florence.

  • I think that's what makes it tolerable and actually kind of intriguing.

  • And Hugh, I have to ask you, you are really selective.

  • You don't work very much.

  • What about this project?

  • Said I need to do this.

  • Well, it is true that, uh, a couple of years ago I was largely doing other things in life.

  • But Stephen Frizz get bumping into him political events in London, and he kept saying this to a film or do a film on.

  • Then, to my great surprise, he actually suddenly sent me the script, which was funny and touching and had rather a good part for me and had him directing.

  • He's pretty classy on DDE Merrill.

  • 19 Oscar nominations.

  • Streep is the other part, so I had to do it.

  • Plus, you guys shot in London.

  • Well, that's no particular temptation.

  • I mean, if we had the money with you, we'd have shot here.

  • Still, and so much of the story is how you guys both in the movie protect her from the realities of her own weaknesses, I guess would be the right word.

  • Do you think that was the right thing to do?

  • Um, well, I'm a great believer in lying on I Sometimes, you know, after I a premiere of mine or a ah play or something, friends will come backstage and say, Do you mind if I'm honest?

  • And the answer is Yes.

  • I bloody do.

  • I I require you to lie on.

  • Um I think honesty is greatly overrated.

  • What about you?

  • You've always told me I was so great.

  • So that's uh Okay.

  • Well, maybe I like lying to them.

  • Uh, yeah.

  • Ah, yeah.

  • What you said, um, I will, I think that, but what was the question with whether it was a good thing or a bad thing to know that she was so coddled and protected from the realities?

  • I think it's Yeah.

  • I mean, I think the movie is more of a question.

  • I guess then it is a statement.

  • So I think there is a little bit of moral ambiguity, um, in terms of, you know, allowing allowing somebody to live the life that they wanna live and to bring the joy that they want to bring to something, even if they don't have the ability.

  • Um, I think it just brings up the question of perception.

  • I mean, her perception of herself is very different than other people's perception.

  • And I guess that's always the case.

  • Uh, and this, you know, walks that line of, um, I guess you know her dreams could we could have killed her dreams and it's It's, I don't know who would have really benefited from that.

  • So do you think of Florence would be possible today?

  • Well, no, because of there's this thing called the Internet, which, you know, she would have been absolutely taken to pieces.

  • I think Twitter in two seconds flat, and it would have been impossible for people like the character I play a character Simon plays to protect her from bad reviews because they just would have been all over her telephone and a computer.

  • Whereas in the film, of course, you know, I bribe the six mute music critics of New York to write nice things about her on the 7th 1 who does dare to write something bad?

  • I just buy up all the newspapers at the local newspaper stand to make sure she doesn't see it.

  • I don't think that would be possible anymore.

  • I know that was actually so quaint when he does that.

  • I was like, Ah, those were the days when you could actually control the spread of information or vitriol as the case may be.

  • Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.

  • Did that really.

  • I kind of felt especially with the work that you've done with Levinson and hacked off Hugh, that when the New York Post reporter wrote that damning review basically for no reason that that must have really resonated with you.

  • Well, no.

  • The stuff I do the politics stuff I do in London hacked off is nothing to do with them anything to do with show business or celebrities.

  • Or certainly not with opinion pieces written about, you know, artistic endeavors or anything like that.

  • Heaven forbid, you know, the more than area freedom of speech.

  • No, it's it's completely different thing.

  • It's just about.

  • For instance, victims of terrorist incidents or Children have been abducted, the families being having their privacy intruded on for financial gain of those newspapers.

  • So it's a it's a very different kettle of fish, Donna.

  • Well, you know, I thought it was a little bit maybe a little bit tiny sip, but since similarity, but good point.

  • What was the most enjoyable part of the shoot for both of you?

  • I can't remember enjoying anything.

  • You misery?

  • Uh, no, I Well, I, uh let me think.

  • Oh, man.

  • I think that some of the well I enjoy, I I got to watch you dance, which was for me was fun because I just had to I think I had to sort of raise a hand up that he had to do a lot of heavy lifting.

  • Um, but some of those bigger scenes, actually, I thought were really fun.

  • Some of the Carnegie Hall stuff was in the concert stuff, huh?

  • You'd think it would be overwhelming, but they set up so many cameras and, uh, it felt, I mean, sometimes on the 10th take of doing a concert, it was exhausting.

  • But I think that's that's kind of fun.

  • I mean, you've been on film sets, you know what it's like, And I would have thought for you, because I'm fascinated by his other life doing the big bang theory secretly that it's done in half and I recorded in half an hour ago.

  • Now it's It's a few hours, but it is very terrifying flight.

  • And it's a whole shirts half an hour.

  • Where's the film?

  • You know, you do two pages a day, if you're lucky.

  • Hurry up.

  • Wait.

  • Hurry up and wait.

  • Hurry up.

  • Hurry up and wait.

  • Hurry up and wait for 14 hours a day.

  • So when people say, was it fun?

  • It's never quite the word.

  • Um, you know, it's great to have done it if it comes off on people like it.

  • And they're nice, too.

  • But I'm not sure that doing it is is I would use the word fun.

  • Well, the reviews have been pretty positive.

  • Do you read the reviews?

  • Yes, you do.

  • Yes.

  • Yes, you're right.

  • We're are 92% red.

  • Tomato.

  • No, Hugh grants.

  • What do you think about playing?

  • ST Clair has just really hit with people so much because your performance, both of your performances, have been really singled out.

  • Well, that's nice.

  • I was It was very nice of Steven, too.

  • Rather eccentric off him to think of me for such a complicated part that required, you know, I had to do some acting.

  • I had to do emotional things I'm not accustomed to.

  • And, uh, I just tried to raise.

  • My guy was really just trying to not look stupid alongside Merrill.

  • Um, so thankfully, you know, that's come off.

  • That's great.

  • But I think it's to do with the complexity of the part that you can't quite make him out.

  • Is he good or bad for a bit?

  • Maybe.

  • That's interesting.

  • Um, but Simon's is an extraordinary achievement because he's doing literally spinning two plates, simultaneously, spinning a comedy plate three plates, comedy, play a dramatic plate and playing some of the most hardest piano pieces in the world.

  • Because, as everyone knows, normally, when you shoot a film involving music, the music is pre recorded, and then you mind to the music on DDE.

  • They daringly didn't do that in this film.

  • So what you see is him genuinely playing the piano and Merrill genuinely howling Simon.

  • That's actually really, really incredible, and I think that's what makes the musical scenes work so much, especially the first scene where you are, I guess, auditioning for the job and your facial expressions are a thing of wonder.

  • Thank you.

  • I have a very funny face.

  • Uh, said all the girls, all the girls say so, Uh, yeah, I think I mean, I just was concerned at some point about being able to play these pieces, being able to get through them.

  • And I thought, Who cares?

  • If I complain, why don't they just hire somebody that can play these pieces?

  • I I'm an actor.

  • Stephen Frears may not know that he doesn't know my work, but he'll find out on day one that I'm an actor, Um and ah, and I it just doesn't matter that Why what?

  • I don't want it to be a point of pride that if you sit through the credits, you'll see the very, very, very end that I actually played it.

  • And that's something that people should.

  • But then once we did it and now, once I've seen it, I actually realize that I do think it made those scenes.

  • I don't want to see if they wouldn't have worked without it, but I think it made them come to life in a way that it probably wouldn't have.

  • I know how difficult it is when I did this film, music and lyrics in which I was a pop star and I had to sing and play the piano.

  • That's nice.

  • Very nice, little Luke.

  • Um, I that was a ll we cheated.

  • So that was pre recorded.

  • Uh uh, pre recorded singing and piano and everything.

  • And then on the remember in the big day new, more seen the equivalent of our Carnegie Hall scene.

  • I got rather confident about my ability to play the piano and sing.

  • And I said, I will do this live.

  • And we had 5000 extras or something in the equivalent of What's that big place?

  • They play eye socket here in New York, and I began on DDE.

  • Had to stop after about 15 seconds.

  • Yeah, because it's just too intimidating.

  • Completely collapsed.

  • Yeah, very humiliating experience.

  • So I know how hard it is, what you did.

  • Well, thank you.

  • Yeah, it was It was It was a big, big challenge, but seemed worth it.

  • And I want to ask both of you guys.

  • I mean, you're obviously both good at what you D'oh!

  • I think that's pretty indisputable.

  • Or Stephen Frears would not have hired you.

  • When did you realize that you had talent?

  • And you could make a go of this?

  • Especially considering that Florence obviously never had that.

  • Ah ha!

  • Moment.

  • I'm still waiting.

  • Yeah, very much.

  • Still wondering why Stop with the ma.

  • They're hiding the reviews.

  • I know if my wife is doing the same thing you did toe Florence, it is a little bit of a weird paranoia.

  • Doesn't this resonate for you in some way, This movie?

  • Not not that the entire that everything is a sham.

  • But don't you have a little bit of fear that when you walk away from somebody that was being nice than they start laughing or that somebody that says they think you're great and you've always got Twitter to put you straight?

  • Yeah, that's why I'm afraid they are ruthless.

  • I know every every imperfection, my face and my personality.

  • Thanks to Twitter.

  • Uh, yeah.

  • So Well, I don't even know.

  • I just got sad.

  • Did you ask a question?

  • I'm just getting as we lament, the cruelty of social media.

  • But But in reality, who in your lives are you're sounding boards like the people that will always tell you this is working or this isn't well, Hugh lies.

  • I've weeded out all the ones who might say anything negative, son.

  • Anyone?

  • You're like a few out.

  • Yes, I'm like the East German Stasi.

  • And if I see any signs of sedition or criticism, any enemy of the state, I just cut them out of my life.

  • What about you?

  • I think that, uh, I my wife says she's honest with me, but ah, and she seems to be, um and she's told me.

  • I don't know if she's told me when it hasn't been good, but it's, but she's I can tell with the inflection when it when she really means it.

  • I don't know if that's yeah, it's all about inflections.

  • I remember doing Hamlet when I was 21 which we did controversially in Star Trek costumes, and I sensed a the time that perhaps people weren't enjoying it as much as I thought they should.

  • I thought I was marvelous, but I remember a very good actress coming up to me afterwards and saying, Yeah, what?

  • What you did was fine.

  • Andi, I'm fine, I think is about as damning as you can get.

  • That's a hard one to even inflect positively.

  • Yeah, that's fine.

  • Fine.

  • Fine.

  • Yeah, it's done.

  • It's really doesn't have enough.

  • So I don't like sweet much either.

  • Yeah, that was really sweet.

  • Film, right?

  • Or congratulations is always again.

  • The inflection, I guess, can change it.

  • But I've had friends who after a place, Sometimes they just say congratulations.

  • You were dead on O on what with the Los Angeles eyes.

  • Hey, congratulations.

  • The l A like Well, you got out of your house.

  • That's an accomplished.

  • Congratulations.

  • You made it here.

  • You didn't crash in the car.

  • It's good.

  • Congratulations.

  • Ah, yeah.

  • That's not what you want.

  • We used to play a game.

  • You have to do the biggest smile you can with the deadest eyes.

  • Agent face?

  • Yeah.

  • Seem that on the press line?

  • Sometimes I think.

  • Oh, my God.

  • Will you?

  • Really?

  • Congratulations.

  • Your performance was fine and it was very sweet.

  • He's crying.

  • He's dead.

  • He's giving me the dead eyes.

  • The big smile, dead eyes.

  • No, but really saying clarity shows such a different side of you.

  • Did you base it on anyone?

  • I've had a few.

  • I scribbled down a few models in my thousands of pages of notes that I made out of sheer panic at the idea of doing this film.

  • Ah, on the word, The parallels.

  • I'm just trying to think if I could name any of them without them suing me, I don't I don't think I can.

  • Really?

  • But yeah, that people I've known who are, for instance, famous diva actresses who had a kind of smooth, aristocratic kind of toy boy on dumb.

  • I used those guys.

  • Well, I you guys Really?

  • Congratulations.

  • No, say it.

  • I'm not gonna say jokes over.

  • No, but it really is a great movie.

  • And you guys were stellar in it.

  • Audience questions, please.

  • Hi, gentlemen.

  • Thank you so much for being here today.

  • So being the staff that I am, I got really teary eyed for the trailer because it seems really touching.

  • And I was just wondering, what will you carry away with you from being part of this film?

  • Um, you're very nice to be positive.

  • And I believed you.

  • So that's very not great inflection.

  • Yeah, what we carry away?

  • Well, um, I'm always very negative about the business, but I will say, uh, when film seems to work When you sit in a cinema with an audience, you've never seen it before and they actually do Go har har har on boo hoo hoo!

  • It's unbelievably satisfying.

  • There is no greater high in life, Andre.

  • What you take away is a feeling of smugness.

  • Yes, I just feel better than that's all better than everyone here better than no.

  • Um, yeah, I don't think I could say it better It I've gotten to see it a few times with an audience, and and audiences don't lie.

  • They don't say if they're laughing.

  • It's not the congratulations with dead eyes.

  • You don't laugh to be kind.

  • And that that is the acid test.

  • And, you know, with films they we have these test screenings.

  • Yes, that's right.

  • Well, you just get people in from a from a mall on DA.

  • They have no reason to bullshit you on, but they don't even know you're there.

  • You sneak in the back in a baseball hat on DDE.

  • That could be it can be brutal because they have, ah, a focus group at the end where 50 people or whatever pulled out and come to the front.

  • And then I asked questions like, What did you think?

  • A few grand and you're sitting two rows behind, and they're not aware of it.

  • And it's It's, ah, terrifying occasion.

  • Yeah, I did not go.

  • I couldn't handle it.

  • It's gonna bring a therapist with May.

  • But now, next question, please.

  • I, um So, did you find any similarities or Ah, uh, care to any other characters that you put trade here, like in any other comedy or any other movies that you've done?

  • And this one?

  • Um, well, I tried.

  • I tried not to Really.

  • Ah.

  • As you know, I'm enormously different in every role I play.

  • But, uh, I thought this one was particularly different to Bailey.

  • You just changed shape.

  • You shape shifted.

  • You look down for one second.

  • That was someone.

  • Really?

  • If you ask the same question is he did.

  • I'm gonna be actually, before we go to the last question, I do want to ask you guys.

  • Which one of Meryl's looks was your favorite?

  • The Valkyrie.

  • Oh, uh oh.

  • I like the one that Ah, at Carnegie Hall with a little like it.

  • Well, no.

  • The one where she's got these weird little, like almost there like stars on the springs.

  • It's like a headband sharing black and these bouncy, glittery like a headdress.

  • Everything was amazing.

  • It was like five costumes on top of each other.

  • Yeah, I mean, you have to take your hat off to Consul Arte Boyle, who's this brilliant, multi Oscar winning costume designer who did the film on DA.

  • Meryl does look quite amazing, but I have to say, so do I.

  • And not last question.

  • Please.

  • How's it going?

  • Hey, so Trailer said it's not how good you are.

  • It's how big your dream is.

  • I want to know.

  • What do you guys believe?

  • That Uh huh.

  • I think we need the marketing department from Paramount up here.

  • You wrote that you can admit it.

  • Come on here.

  • You wrote that he used to say that to me every day on set.

  • It is true that it is true that I do believe that about dreams.

  • But passions enthusiasms Ah, gold in life.

  • And I look at my Children.

  • All I really want for them is to have enthusiasms.

  • Because not only does it make your own life better, it makes you really attractive.

  • People love an enthusiastic person it's and deeply charming, and that's what floor I think my wife, Florence, had such a following.

  • Yeah, and I think that the three of these people are are very simple people.

  • I think they're almost simpleton Sze, I mean, and that's a very you don't get clogged up with.

  • Like his character says.

  • The tyranny of ambition and these or I I sort of think it is like the baggage of ability.

  • They're just free.

  • Ah, they're these.

  • There's a song called Beautiful Dreamer that I just keep thinking of that.

  • They're just They're like, there's there's nothing that there's no self awareness and there's no criticism that's coming from inside them.

  • I I I honestly, even though they're all they're all different.

  • I see the three of them is kind of there's there's something inspiring.

  • There's something like when you watch a child do something ridiculous and you, well, I'm judging it now, but in the moment I don't you know, I don't really judge it.

  • It just fills you with a kind of joy tow.

  • Watch them.

  • That's a very good answer, and I'm gonna steal it for future interviews, you said.

  • And there's something to be said right for someone following her dreams.

  • She's not hurting anyone.

  • Yeah, just doing what she wants.

  • Yeah, I don't I think that I think that's Ah.

  • I don't think there's anything malicious that's going on here.

  • I don't I think everybody benefits.

  • And one way or another, that damn critic, I tell you, Yeah.

  • Critics had to go ruin everything and thank you so much.

  • The movie opens on Friday.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you.

We're going to make a record.

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