>>> TONIGHT THE "NEW YORK TIMES" IS REPORTING NEW DETAILS ABOUT

IS REPORTING NEW DETAILS ABOUT IDEAS PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FOR

IDEAS PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FOR THE SOUTHERN BORDER.

THE SOUTHERN BORDER. ACCORDING TO AN EXCERPT FROM THE

ACCORDING TO AN EXCERPT FROM THE NEW BOOK "BORDER WARS" WRITTEN

NEW BOOK "BORDER WARS" WRITTEN BY THE "NEW YORK TIMES,"

BY THE "NEW YORK TIMES," PRIVATELY, THE PRESIDENT HAD

PRIVATELY, THE PRESIDENT HAD OFTEN TALKED ABOUT FORTIFYING A

OFTEN TALKED ABOUT FORTIFYING A BORDER WALL WITH A WATER-FILLED

BORDER WALL WITH A WATER-FILLED TRENCH, STOCKED WITH SNAKES OR

TRENCH, STOCKED WITH SNAKES OR ALLIGATORS, PROMPTING AIDES TO

ALLIGATORS, PROMPTING AIDES TO SEEK A COST ESTIMATE.

SEEK A COST ESTIMATE. HE WANTED THE WALL ELECTRIFIED,

HE WANTED THE WALL ELECTRIFIED, WITH SPIKES ON TOP THAT COULD

WITH SPIKES ON TOP THAT COULD PIERCE HUMAN FLESH.

PIERCE HUMAN FLESH. HIS STAFF TOLD HIM THAT WAS

HIS STAFF TOLD HIM THAT WAS ILLEGAL, BUT LATER IN A MEETING,

ILLEGAL, BUT LATER IN A MEETING, AIDES RECALLED HE SAID THEY

AIDES RECALLED HE SAID THEY SHOULD SHOOT MIGRANTS IN THE

SHOULD SHOOT MIGRANTS IN THE LEGS TO SLOW THEM DOWN.

LEGS TO SLOW THEM DOWN. THAT’S NOT ALLOWED, EITHER, THEY

THAT’S NOT ALLOWED, EITHER, THEY TOLD HIM.

TOLD HIM. SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS IS BACK

SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS IS BACK WITH US.

WITH US. YOUR REACTION TO THIS NEW

YOUR REACTION TO THIS NEW REPORTING ABOUT TRUMP IDEAS FOR

REPORTING ABOUT TRUMP IDEAS FOR THE BORDER.

THE BORDER. >> I’M BEYOND WORDS, TO BE

>> I’M BEYOND WORDS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, LAWRENCE.

HONEST WITH YOU, LAWRENCE. IT IS OUTRAGEOUS.

IT IS OUTRAGEOUS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A PERSON OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE

PERSON OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT ONLY

RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT ONLY LAWLESS, NOT ONLY PROBABLY THE

LAWLESS, NOT ONLY PROBABLY THE MOST UNPATRIOTIC PRESIDENT WE’VE

MOST UNPATRIOTIC PRESIDENT WE’VE EVER HAD, WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS

EVER HAD, WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS MEAN AND MEAN-SPIRITED AND IS

MEAN AND MEAN-SPIRITED AND IS CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS THE REAL

CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS THE REAL MEASURE OF STRENGTH AND POWER.

MEASURE OF STRENGTH AND POWER. BECAUSE IF HE WERE CLEAR ABOUT

BECAUSE IF HE WERE CLEAR ABOUT IT, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE

IT, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRUE MEASURE OF STRENGTH AND

TRUE MEASURE OF STRENGTH AND POWER IS NOT BASED ON WHO YOU

POWER IS NOT BASED ON WHO YOU BEAT DOWN, IT IS BASED ON WHO

BEAT DOWN, IT IS BASED ON WHO YOU LIFT UP.

YOU LIFT UP. BUT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS

BUT WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS THAT THERE IS A REPORT THAT

THAT THERE IS A REPORT THAT BASICALLY HAS THE PRESIDENT OF

BASICALLY HAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ADVOCATING

THE UNITED STATES ADVOCATING WHAT WILL BE TORTURE, MAYHEM OF

WHAT WILL BE TORTURE, MAYHEM OF HUMAN BEINGS WHEN THERE IS SO

HUMAN BEINGS WHEN THERE IS SO MANY OTHER TOOLS AVAILABLE TO

MANY OTHER TOOLS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO

ADDRESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION, WHICH, BY

DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS A PASSING

THE WAY, IS A PASSING COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM

COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM WITH A PATHWAY TOWARD

WITH A PATHWAY TOWARD CITIZENSHIP.

CITIZENSHIP. I’M BEYOND WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW

I’M BEYOND WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW OUTRAGEOUS I THINK MOST

OUTRAGEOUS I THINK MOST AMERICANS WOULD FEEL ABOUT WHAT

AMERICANS WOULD FEEL ABOUT WHAT HE ADVOCATED, AND BY THE WAY,

HE ADVOCATED, AND BY THE WAY, JUST LIKE WHAT WE SAW AS THE

JUST LIKE WHAT WE SAW AS THE BIPARTISAN REACTION WHEN PEOPLE

BIPARTISAN REACTION WHEN PEOPLE BECAME AWARE OF A POLICY THAT

BECAME AWARE OF A POLICY THAT WAS ABOUT PUTTING BABIES IN

WAS ABOUT PUTTING BABIES IN CAGES AND SEPARATING CHILDREN

CAGES AND SEPARATING CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS IN THE NAME

FROM THEIR PARENTS IN THE NAME OF BORDER SECURITY, I BELIEVE

OF BORDER SECURITY, I BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL

THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL RECOGNIZE THAT ADVOCATING FOR

RECOGNIZE THAT ADVOCATING FOR MOATS FILLED WITH SNAKES AND

MOATS FILLED WITH SNAKES AND ALLIGATORS, THAT THE AMERICAN

ALLIGATORS, THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD BE OUTRAGED

PEOPLE WOULD BE OUTRAGED REGARDLESS OF THEIR PARTY

REGARDLESS OF THEIR PARTY AFFILIATION JUST KNOWING THAT’S

AFFILIATION JUST KNOWING THAT’S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE VALUES OF

NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE VALUES OF WHO WE SAY WE ARE.

WHO WE SAY WE ARE. AND IT’S JUST NOT REFLECTIVE OF

AND IT’S JUST NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT SHOULD BE A MODERN

WHAT SHOULD BE A MODERN PRESIDENT IN AMERICA WHO VALUES

PRESIDENT IN AMERICA WHO VALUES HUMAN RIGHTS.

HUMAN RIGHTS. >> THERE IS ANOTHER PASSAGE IN

>> THERE IS ANOTHER PASSAGE IN THE REPORTING OF THESE "NEW YORK

THE REPORTING OF THESE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTERS ABOUT THE

TIMES" REPORTERS ABOUT THE CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION

CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION CHIEF WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID TO

CHIEF WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID TO HIM THAT HE WANTED HIM TO STOP

HIM THAT HE WANTED HIM TO STOP LETTING MIGRANTS CROSS THE

LETTING MIGRANTS CROSS THE BORDER AT ALL ANYWHERE WITH NO

BORDER AT ALL ANYWHERE WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.

EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU GET INTO TROUBLE FOR IT,

IF YOU GET INTO TROUBLE FOR IT, MR. TRUMP TOLD HIM, I’LL PARDON

MR. TRUMP TOLD HIM, I’LL PARDON YOU.

YOU. NOW, DOES THAT QUALIFY AS A

NOW, DOES THAT QUALIFY AS A POSSIBLE ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT?

POSSIBLE ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT? >> WELL, LISTEN, I MEAN, WHAT HE

>> WELL, LISTEN, I MEAN, WHAT HE IS BASICALLY SAYING IS IF YOU

IS BASICALLY SAYING IS IF YOU COMMIT A CRIME, I GOT YOUR BACK.

COMMIT A CRIME, I GOT YOUR BACK. SO LET’S START WITH THE FACT

SO LET’S START WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF

THAT WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ENCOURAGING

THE UNITED STATES ENCOURAGING SOMEONE TO BREAK THE LAW.

SOMEONE TO BREAK THE LAW. AGAIN, FURTHER EVIDENCE OF THE

AGAIN, FURTHER EVIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT DONALD TRUMP IS

FACT THAT DONALD TRUMP IS LAWLESS.

LAWLESS. AS I’VE SAID BEFORE -- LOOK,

AS I’VE SAID BEFORE -- LOOK, MAYA ANGELOU TOLD US THAT YOU

MAYA ANGELOU TOLD US THAT YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHEN

SHOULD LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE THE

THEY TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE THE FIRST TIME.

FIRST TIME. DONALD TRUMP TOLD US WHO HE WAS

DONALD TRUMP TOLD US WHO HE WAS WHEN HE WAS CAMPAIGNING FOR

WHEN HE WAS CAMPAIGNING FOR OFFICE, WHEN HE SAID IF I SHOOT

OFFICE, WHEN HE SAID IF I SHOOT SOMEONE ON FIFTH AVENUE, I CAN

SOMEONE ON FIFTH AVENUE, I CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.

GET AWAY WITH IT. HE TOLD US THEN WHO HE IS, AND

HE TOLD US THEN WHO HE IS, AND ALL OF THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE

ALL OF THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE FACT THAT WE KNEW A LONG TIME

FACT THAT WE KNEW A LONG TIME AGO.

AGO. AND SO LET THE IMPEACHMENT

AND SO LET THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS BEGIN, AND I HAVE

PROCEEDINGS BEGIN, AND I HAVE FULL FAITH IN THE ABILITY OF THE

FULL FAITH IN THE ABILITY OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS,

UNITED STATES CONGRESS, CERTAINLY IN THE HOUSE OF

CERTAINLY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, TO DO THE RIGHT

REPRESENTATIVES, TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

THING. >> SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS,