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STUFF. WHEN I FIRED THAT SLEAZEBAG, ALL
WHEN I FIRED THAT SLEAZEBAG, ALL HELL BROKE OUT.
HELL BROKE OUT. >> Martha: INTERESTING MOMENT
>> Martha: INTERESTING MOMENT FROM TODAY.
FROM TODAY. JOINING ME NOW, TREY GOWDY.
JOINING ME NOW, TREY GOWDY. HE’S THE FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT
HE’S THE FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT CHAIRMAN AND NOW FOX NEWS
CHAIRMAN AND NOW FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
CONTRIBUTOR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> Martha: VERY STRONG WORDS.
>> Martha: VERY STRONG WORDS. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MUELLER
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MUELLER REPORT AND THE FISA PROCESS, YOU
REPORT AND THE FISA PROCESS, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE IT’S COMING
CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE IT’S COMING FROM.
FROM. >> YEAH, PETER STRZOK, THE LEAD
>> YEAH, PETER STRZOK, THE LEAD CASE AGENT ON THIS RUSSIA PROBE,
CASE AGENT ON THIS RUSSIA PROBE, WAS TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING
WAS TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING DONALD TRUMP BEFORE ADAM SCHIFF
DONALD TRUMP BEFORE ADAM SCHIFF AND JERRY NADLER WERE.
AND JERRY NADLER WERE. LET THAT SINK IN.
LET THAT SINK IN. THE LEAD AGENT FOR THE ANYBODY
THE LEAD AGENT FOR THE ANYBODY MENTIONED IMPEACHING TRUMP
MENTIONED IMPEACHING TRUMP BEFORE SCHIFF AND NADLER DID.
BEFORE SCHIFF AND NADLER DID. SO THEN THE FBI CONDUCTS THIS
SO THEN THE FBI CONDUCTS THIS DEFENSIVE BRIEFING, WHICH IS
DEFENSIVE BRIEFING, WHICH IS REALLY AN INTERVIEW.
REALLY AN INTERVIEW. THEY SUSPECTED DONALD TRUMP OF
THEY SUSPECTED DONALD TRUMP OF IMPROPRIETY.
IMPROPRIETY. YOU HAVE JAMES COMEY WHO THINKS
YOU HAVE JAMES COMEY WHO THINKS IMPEACHMENT IS TOO GOOD FOR HIM.
IMPEACHMENT IS TOO GOOD FOR HIM. YOU HAVE JOHN BRENNAN THAT
YOU HAVE JOHN BRENNAN THAT THINKS SHE SHOULD BE IN THE DUST
THINKS SHE SHOULD BE IN THE DUST PAN OF HISTORY.
PAN OF HISTORY. YOU HAVE ANDY McCABE LAUNCHED
YOU HAVE ANDY McCABE LAUNCHED ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO
ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO TRUMP.
TRUMP. MARTHA, IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP,
MARTHA, IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP, I WOULD THINK THE FBI WAS OUT TO
I WOULD THINK THE FBI WAS OUT TO GET ME, TOO.
GET ME, TOO. >> Martha: YOU KNOW, HE ALSO
>> Martha: YOU KNOW, HE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT WHEN HE FIRED
POINTED OUT THAT WHEN HE FIRED HIM, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE
HIM, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE STORY.
STORY. WE ALL COVERED IT.
WE ALL COVERED IT. BUT HE FELT THAT IT WAS
BUT HE FELT THAT IT WAS ULTIMATELY THE MOVE THAT SAVED
ULTIMATELY THE MOVE THAT SAVED HIM.
HIM. BECAUSE HE BELIEVED THAT HE WAS
BECAUSE HE BELIEVED THAT HE WAS ELIMINATING THE PERSON AT THE
ELIMINATING THE PERSON AT THE TOP THAT CREATED A CULTURE THAT
TOP THAT CREATED A CULTURE THAT WAS AFTER HIM, THAT BELIEVED,
WAS AFTER HIM, THAT BELIEVED, YOU KNOW, BASED ON --
YOU KNOW, BASED ON -- ESSENTIALLY ON THE DOSSIER AND
ESSENTIALLY ON THE DOSSIER AND SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND IT.
SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND IT. THE DOSSIER PAID FOR BY HILLARY
THE DOSSIER PAID FOR BY HILLARY CLINTON AND THE DNC USED THAT TO
CLINTON AND THE DNC USED THAT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY
CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE ABOVE
BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE ABOVE BOARD IN INVESTIGATING THE
BOARD IN INVESTIGATING THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CAMPAIGN.
PRESIDENT AND HIS CAMPAIGN. IT IS PRETTY STUNNING WHEN YOU
IT IS PRETTY STUNNING WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT IT.
LOOK BACK AT IT. >> YEAH, I WOULD CORRECT THE
>> YEAH, I WOULD CORRECT THE PRESIDENT’S NARRATIVE ONLY TO
PRESIDENT’S NARRATIVE ONLY TO THIS EXTENT.
THIS EXTENT. HE REPLACED COMEY WITH McCABE.
HE REPLACED COMEY WITH McCABE. THAT IS HARDLY MOVING UP THE
THAT IS HARDLY MOVING UP THE DRAFT BOARD.
DRAFT BOARD. IT WAS ONLY WHEN CHRIS WRAY CAME
IT WAS ONLY WHEN CHRIS WRAY CAME IN THAT YOU HAD AN OBJECTIVE LAW
IN THAT YOU HAD AN OBJECTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT CENTERED PERSON.
ENFORCEMENT CENTERED PERSON. McCABE WAS NO BETTER THAN COMEY.
McCABE WAS NO BETTER THAN COMEY. SO WE HAD TO GET --
SO WE HAD TO GET -- >> Martha: HE GOT MOVED UP
>> Martha: HE GOT MOVED UP BECAUSE HE WAS SORT OF THE NEXT
BECAUSE HE WAS SORT OF THE NEXT PERSON AVAILABLE, I GUESS, AT
PERSON AVAILABLE, I GUESS, AT THAT TIME.
THAT TIME. DO YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS
DO YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS CHANGED AT THE FBI?
CHANGED AT THE FBI? THERE’S A LOT OF DISCUSSION
THERE’S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IS NEXT.
ABOUT WHAT IS NEXT. WHICH PHONE CALL, WHICH --
WHICH PHONE CALL, WHICH -- THERE’S ALREADY INVESTIGATIONS
THERE’S ALREADY INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE PRESIDENT’S TAXES.
INTO THE PRESIDENT’S TAXES. YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS
YOU THINK THE CULTURE HAS CHANGED AT THE TOP?
CHANGED AT THE TOP? >> I HOPE SO, MARTHA.
>> I HOPE SO, MARTHA. I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW.
I SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW. I HAVEN’T TALKED TO CHRIS WRAY
I HAVEN’T TALKED TO CHRIS WRAY SINCE I LEFT CONGRESS.
SINCE I LEFT CONGRESS. THOSE OF US, RATCLIFFE AND
THOSE OF US, RATCLIFFE AND OTHERS, FORMER FEDERAL
OTHERS, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS, WE’RE NOT GOING TO
PROSECUTORS, WE’RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLE
MAKE IT AS A COUNTRY IF PEOPLE DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE
DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE FBI.
FBI. IT’S BEEN A BAD FOUR YEARS WITH
IT’S BEEN A BAD FOUR YEARS WITH STRZOK AND McCABE AND BAKER,
STRZOK AND McCABE AND BAKER, PAGE, COMEY.
PAGE, COMEY. IT’S BEEN A TERRIBLE FOUR YEARS
IT’S BEEN A TERRIBLE FOUR YEARS FOR THE WORLD’S PREMIER LAW
FOR THE WORLD’S PREMIER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. I DIDN’T GET TO WATCH CHRIS’
I DIDN’T GET TO WATCH CHRIS’ TESTIMONY THIS WEEK.
TESTIMONY THIS WEEK. I READ SOME ARTICLES.
I READ SOME ARTICLES. SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
SOME OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WEREN’T THAT IMPRESSED WITH THE
WEREN’T THAT IMPRESSED WITH THE CHANGES THAT CHRIS HAS OUTLINED.
CHANGES THAT CHRIS HAS OUTLINED. BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO SURVIVE
BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO SURVIVE IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T
IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE FBI.