比爾-克林頓向莫妮卡-萊溫斯基道歉｜梅根-凱利-TODAY (Bill Clinton Apologizes To Monica Lewinsky

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[ APPLAUSE ]
[ APPLAUSE ] >>> GOOD MORNING, MPB.EVERYONE.
>>> GOOD MORNING, MPB.EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
IM MEGYN KELLY.
IM MEGYN KELLY.
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTONS INTERVIEW WITH OUR OWN CRAIGNS
INTERVIEW WITH OUR OWN CRAIG MELVIN IS MAKING WAVES THIS
MELVIN IS MAKING WAVES THIS
MORNING.
MORNING.
THE QUESTIONS WHETHER HE OWES
THE QUESTIONS WHETHER HE OWES
MONICA LEWINSKY AN APOLOGY, DRAWING AN IMMEDIATE BACKLASH.
DRAWING AN IMMEDIATE BACKLASH. LAST NIGHT, BILL CLINTON TRIED
LAST NIGHT, BILL CLINTON TRIED
TO DO A CLEANUP IN AISLE 7. CRAIG MELVIN HAS THE LATEST.
CRAIG MELVIN HAS THE LATEST. >> Reporter: OVERNIGHT, BILL
>> Reporter: OVERNIGHT, BILL CLINTON APOLOGIZING AGAIN.
CLINTON APOLOGIZING AGAIN. >> I MEANT IT THEN AND I MEAN IT
>> I MEANT IT THEN AND I MEAN IT
NOW.
NOW.
I APOLOGIZED TO MY FAMILY AND TO MONICA LEWINSKYS FAMILY.Y AND TO
MONICA LEWINSKYS FAMILY. >> Reporter: HIS NEW APOLOGY,
>> Reporter: HIS NEW APOLOGY,
AFTER FACING QUESTIONS HERE ON
AFTER FACING QUESTIONS HERE ON
"TODAY" OF HIS HANDLING OF THE MONICA LEWINSKY SCANDAL IN THE
MONICA LEWINSKY SCANDAL IN THE LATE 90s.
LATE 90s. DO YOU FEEL YOU OWE HER AN
DO YOU FEEL YOU OWE HER AN APOLOGY?
APOLOGY?
>> I -- I DO NOT -- I NEVER
>> I -- I DO NOT -- I NEVER
TALKED TO HER.
TALKED TO HER.
BUT I DID SAY, PUBLICLY, ON MORE
BUT I DID SAY, PUBLICLY, ON MORE
THAN ONE OCCASION, THAT I WAS SORRY.NE OCCASION, THAT I WAS
SORRY.
>> Reporter: THE FORMER PRESIDENT VOICING SUPPORT FOR
PRESIDENT VOICING SUPPORT FOR THE #METOO MOVEMENT, BUT FACING
THE #METOO MOVEMENT, BUT FACING CRITICISM FOR HIS COMMENTS
CRITICISM FOR HIS COMMENTS DURING THE "TODAY" INTERVIEW.
DURING THE "TODAY" INTERVIEW. >> NOBODY BELIEVES I GOT OUT OF
>> NOBODY BELIEVES I GOT OUT OF THAT FOR FREE.
THAT FOR FREE. I LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE $16
I LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE $16 MILLION IN DEBT.
MILLION IN DEBT. >> Reporter: SOME ALLIES,
>> Reporter: SOME ALLIES,
INCLUDING FORMER CLINTON SPOKESMAN, JOE LOCKHART, TOOK
SPOKESMAN, JOE LOCKHART, TOOK ISSUE WITH HIS FOCUS.
ISSUE WITH HIS FOCUS. >> HE SUCCUMBED TO BEING THE
>> HE SUCCUMBED TO BEING THE VICTIM AND FEELING VICTIMIZED.
VICTIM AND FEELING VICTIMIZED.
>> Reporter: SOCIAL MEDIA
>> Reporter: SOCIAL MEDIA
ERUPTING.
ERUPTING.
ONE USER WRITING, BILL CLINTON STILL REFUSES TO TAKEL CLINTON
STILL REFUSES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY WHAT HE DID TO
RESPONSIBILITY WHAT HE DID TO
MONICA LEWINSKY.
MONICA LEWINSKY.
LEWINSKY DID NOT COMMENT
LEWINSKY DID NOT COMMENT
DIRECTLY.
DIRECTLY.
SIMPLY TWEETING SHE IS GRATEFUL
SIMPLY TWEETING SHE IS GRATEFUL
TO THE MYRIAD PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME EVOLVED AND GAIN PERSPECTIVE.
ME EVOLVED AND GAIN PERSPECTIVE. AND LINKING TO A "VANITY FAIR"
AND LINKING TO A "VANITY FAIR" PIECE SHE WROTE IN MARCH, THAT
PIECE SHE WROTE IN MARCH, THAT READS IN PART, NOW AT 44, IM
READS IN PART, NOW AT 44, IM BEGINNING TO CONSIDER THE
BEGINNING TO CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE POWER
IMPLICATIONS OF THE POWER DIFFERENTIALS THAT WERE SO VAST
DIFFERENTIALS THAT WERE SO VAST BETWEEN A PRESIDENT AND A WHITE
BETWEEN A PRESIDENT AND A WHITE HOUSE INTERN.
HOUSE INTERN. NOW, SHES BEING SUPPORTED BY
NOW, SHES BEING SUPPORTED BY OTHER #METOO ACTIVISTS.
OTHER #METOO ACTIVISTS. ROSE McGOWAN TWEETING AT CLINTON
ROSE McGOWAN TWEETING AT CLINTON IN PART, A HUMAN LIFE WAS
IN PART, A HUMAN LIFE WAS ALTERED AND DESTROYED DUE TO
ALTERED AND DESTROYED DUE TO YOUR SELFISHNESS.
YOUR SELFISHNESS.
PRIOR TO HIS OVERNIGHT COMMENTS, SHE AND OTHERS DEMANDED CLINTON,
SHE AND OTHERS DEMANDED CLINTON APOLOGIZE, SOMETHING THE
APOLOGIZE, SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT NEVER DID PRIVATELY,
PRESIDENT NEVER DID PRIVATELY, BUT DID PUBLICLY IN 1998, AND
BUT DID PUBLICLY IN 1998, AND AGAIN LAST NIGHT.
AGAIN LAST NIGHT. >> I MEANT IT THEN, AND I MEAN
>> I MEANT IT THEN, AND I MEAN IT TODAY.
IT TODAY.
I LIVE WITH IT ALL THE TIME.
I LIVE WITH IT ALL THE TIME.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY.
PLEASE WELCOME NBCS CRAIG
PLEASE WELCOME NBCS CRAIG
MELVIN, CO-HOST OF PBSS "IN
MELVIN, CO-HOST OF PBSS "IN
PRINCIPLE," AMY HOMES AND U.S.
PRINCIPLE," AMY HOMES AND U.S.
ATTORNEY DAN GOLDMAN.
ATTORNEY DAN GOLDMAN.
WELCOME.
WELCOME.
MADE A LITTLE NEWS THERE, CRAIG. >> YOU KNOW.E NEWS THERE, CRAIG.
>> YOU KNOW. I JUST SAT AND ASKED SOME
I JUST SAT AND ASKED SOME QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS.
>> AND THE RESPONSES WERE, POOR ME.AND THE RESPONSES WERE, POOR
ME.
I WAS $16 MILLION IN DEBT
I WAS $16 MILLION IN DEBT
BECAUSE HES $16 MILLION IN DEBT
BECAUSE HES $16 MILLION IN DEBT
BECAUSE HE WAS ACCUSED. HE LIED UNDER OATH, ABOUT
HE LIED UNDER OATH, ABOUT WHETHER HE DID IT OR DIDNT DO
WHETHER HE DID IT OR DIDNT DO IT.
IT.
THATS WHY HE GOT IMPEACHED.
THATS WHY HE GOT IMPEACHED.
CAN I ASK YOU, AMY, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS., BECAUSE WE
TALKED ABOUT THIS. CAN HE FIX IT?
CAN HE FIX IT? AND HE SAID, THE SUGGESTION ON
AND HE SAID, THE SUGGESTION ON NBC WAS THAT I NEVER APOLOGIZED.
NBC WAS THAT I NEVER APOLOGIZED. I DID.
I DID. I DID IT THEN AND NOW.
I DID IT THEN AND NOW. CRAIGS LINE OF QUESTION, WAS
CRAIGS LINE OF QUESTION, WAS DID YOU PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE?
DID YOU PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE? >> HE TRIED.
>> HE TRIED.
YOU CAN SAY THAT. AND YOUR NICKNAME SHOULD BE
AND YOUR NICKNAME SHOULD BE BOMBS AWAY.
BOMBS AWAY. BOMBS AWAY MELVIN.
BOMBS AWAY MELVIN. I MADE THE POINT YESTERDAY, IF
I MADE THE POINT YESTERDAY, IF YOU TREAT SOMEONE BADLY IN A
YOU TREAT SOMEONE BADLY IN A RELATIONSHIP, POSTING A GENERAL
RELATIONSHIP, POSTING A GENERAL APOLOGY ON FACEBOOK DOESNT CUT
APOLOGY ON FACEBOOK DOESNT CUT IT.
IT.
YOU NEED TO CONTACT THAT PERSON
YOU NEED TO CONTACT THAT PERSON
PERSONALLY.
PERSONALLY.
AND EVERY ADULT KNOWS THIS.
AND EVERY ADULT KNOWS THIS.
THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IN YOUR INTERVIEW, PRESIDENT
AND IN YOUR INTERVIEW, PRESIDENT
CLINTON, HE DIDNT WANT TO ADMIT THAT.ON, HE DIDNT WANT TO ADMIT
THAT.
>> THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
>> THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
HE AND JAMES PATTERSON, JAMES PATTERSON WHO HAS PARTNERED ON
PATTERSON WHO HAS PARTNERED ON BOOKS WITH BILL OREILLY AND NOW
BOOKS WITH BILL OREILLY AND NOW CLINTON, HE INTERRUPTS TO SAY,
CLINTON, HE INTERRUPTS TO SAY, WHAT ABOUT LBJ OR JFK?
WHAT ABOUT LBJ OR JFK? THEY WERE RUMORED ADULTERERS.
THEY WERE RUMORED ADULTERERS. BUT THEY WERENT ACCUSED
BUT THEY WERENT ACCUSED FELONIOUS LIEARS.
FELONIOUS LIEARS. >> WHAT GOT HIM IN TROUBLE WAS
>> WHAT GOT HIM IN TROUBLE WAS NOT THAT HE HAD AN AFFAIR BUT
NOT THAT HE HAD AN AFFAIR BUT THAT HE LIED ABOUT IT UNDER
THAT HE LIED ABOUT IT UNDER OATH.
OATH.
>> UNDER OATH.
>> UNDER OATH.
>> THAT LED TO THE IMPEACHMENT
>> THAT LED TO THE IMPEACHMENT
PROCESS AND MORE OF HIS TROUBLE,
PROCESS AND MORE OF HIS TROUBLE,
SO TO SPEAK.
SO TO SPEAK.
>> THATS WHY HE GOT IN DEBT. ALL OF THE LAWYERS TO DEFEND HIM
ALL OF THE LAWYERS TO DEFEND HIM DOING THAT.
DOING THAT.
>> HE WASNT THE ONLY PERSON WHO
>> HE WASNT THE ONLY PERSON WHO
GOT IN DEBT DOING THIS. BETTY CURRIE WRACKED UP HUGE
BETTY CURRIE WRACKED UP HUGE LEGAL BILLS.
LEGAL BILLS. >> THAT AFFAIR RUINED HER LIFE.
>> THAT AFFAIR RUINED HER LIFE. AND MONICA LEWINSKY HAS HANDLED
AND MONICA LEWINSKY HAS HANDLED HERSELF WITH GRACE AND DIGNITY
HERSELF WITH GRACE AND DIGNITY IN THE YEARS SINCE.
IN THE YEARS SINCE. SHE HASNT TRIED -- IN THE
SHE HASNT TRIED -- IN THE BEGINNING SHE DID A BLACK AND
BEGINNING SHE DID A BLACK AND WHITE MOVIE THING.
WHITE MOVIE THING.
BUT SHES NOT OUT THERE CAPITALIZING ON THIS.E
CAPITALIZING ON THIS. IM SURE SHE FEELS ASHAMED ABOUT
IM SURE SHE FEELS ASHAMED ABOUT HER ROLE IN IT.
HER ROLE IN IT. WHEN I HEAR HER TALK ABOUT IT,
WHEN I HEAR HER TALK ABOUT IT, SHE SEEMS TO BE WRESTLING WITH
SHE SEEMS TO BE WRESTLING WITH THE PAIN OF IT.
THE PAIN OF IT. >> THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
>> THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. SHES BECOME AN ADULT NOW.
SHES BECOME AN ADULT NOW. AND SHE WAS REALLY ALMOST A
AND SHE WAS REALLY ALMOST A CHILD WHEN SHE WAS AN INTERN.
CHILD WHEN SHE WAS AN INTERN. THATS A LOT OF WHAT THE #METOO
THATS A LOT OF WHAT THE #METOO MOVEMENT, YOU SEE THE POWERFUL
MOVEMENT, YOU SEE THE POWERFUL MEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN,
MEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN, WHO DONT UNDERSTAND IT.
WHO DONT UNDERSTAND IT. NOW, MONICA LEWINSKY 20 YEARS
NOW, MONICA LEWINSKY 20 YEARS LATER, HAS GRACE AND MATURITY.
LATER, HAS GRACE AND MATURITY. SHE UNDERSTANDS THE PERSPECTIVE
SHE UNDERSTANDS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT SHE DIDNT HAVE THEN.
THAT SHE DIDNT HAVE THEN. >> HE WAS THE MOST POWERFUL MAN
>> HE WAS THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD.
IN THE WORLD. SPEAKING OF THE MOST POWERFUL
SPEAKING OF THE MOST POWERFUL MAN OF THE WORLD, TODAY ITS
MAN OF THE WORLD, TODAY ITS PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
AND HE IS MAKING NEWS -- YOULL BE SHOCKED TO LEARN, BECAUSELL
BE SHOCKED TO LEARN, BECAUSE HES BOOTED OUT THE PHILADELPHIA
HES BOOTED OUT THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES FROM COMING TO THE WHITE
EAGLES FROM COMING TO THE WHITE HOUSE FOR A CELEBRATION OF
HOUSE FOR A CELEBRATION OF THE -- I GATHER THEY WERE THE
THE -- I GATHER THEY WERE THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPS.
SUPER BOWL CHAMPS.
>> THEY WERE. >> HE SAID DONT COME.
>> HE SAID DONT COME. AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS CLAIMING
AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS CLAIMING ITS BECAUSE OF THE KNEELING
ITS BECAUSE OF THE KNEELING CONTROVERSY.
CONTROVERSY.
HE TWEETED OUT, THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES FOOTBALL TEAM WAS INVITED
EAGLES FOOTBALL TEAM WAS INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
ONLY A SMALL NUMBER WAS ALLOWED
ONLY A SMALL NUMBER WAS ALLOWED
TO COME AND WE CANCELED THE EVENT.E AND WE CANCELED THE
EVENT.
STAYING IN THE LOCKER ROOM FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IS JUST AS
THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IS JUST AS DISGRACEFUL AS KNEELING.
DISGRACEFUL AS KNEELING. DID HE CANCEL THEM BECAUSE OF
DID HE CANCEL THEM BECAUSE OF THE KNEELING OR NOBODY WANTED TO
THE KNEELING OR NOBODY WANTED TO COME?
COME?
>> HE WAS THROWING A PARTY AND NOBODY WAS GOING TO COME.Y AND
NOBODY WAS GOING TO COME. >> THE REALITY IS, THAT NONE OF
>> THE REALITY IS, THAT NONE OF THE EAGLES PLAYERS ACTUALLY
THE EAGLES PLAYERS ACTUALLY KNEELED DURING THE SEASON.
KNEELED DURING THE SEASON. NONE WERE IN THE LOCKER ROOM.
NONE WERE IN THE LOCKER ROOM. THERE WASNT A SINGLE PLAYER ON
THERE WASNT A SINGLE PLAYER ON THAT TEAM THAT PROTESTED.
THAT TEAM THAT PROTESTED. A PICTURE THATS OUT THERE OF
A PICTURE THATS OUT THERE OF THE TIGHT END.
THE TIGHT END. THE GUY NAMED ZACH ERST.
THE GUY NAMED ZACH ERST. >> MY HUSBAND LOVES THE EAGLES.
>> MY HUSBAND LOVES THE EAGLES. >> THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN TWEETED
>> THIS PICTURE HAS BEEN TWEETED AROUND.
AROUND.
ZACH SAID, I WAS PRAYING.
ZACH SAID, I WAS PRAYING.
I WASNT PROTESTING. SO, I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT
SO, I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS REALIZED THAT POLITICALLY,
HAS REALIZED THAT POLITICALLY, THIS IS A WINNING ISSUE FOR HIM.
THIS IS A WINNING ISSUE FOR HIM. THERES A LOT OF FOLKS WHO SIDE
THERES A LOT OF FOLKS WHO SIDE WITH THE PRESIDENT ON THIS.
WITH THE PRESIDENT ON THIS. >> THATS TRUE.
>> THATS TRUE. BUT YOU CANT TURN EVERY PROTEST
BUT YOU CANT TURN EVERY PROTEST VOTE INTO THIS ISSUE.
VOTE INTO THIS ISSUE. IF THE NFL PLAYERS FROM THE
IF THE NFL PLAYERS FROM THE EAGLES DIDNT WANT TO GO BECAUSE
EAGLES DIDNT WANT TO GO BECAUSE THEY DONT LOVE PRESIDENT TRUMP
THEY DONT LOVE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HE THINKS NO ONE IS COMING
AND HE THINKS NO ONE IS COMING TO THE PARTY, YOU CANT BLAME IT
TO THE PARTY, YOU CANT BLAME IT ON THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IF
ON THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IF THEYRE NOT KNEELERS.
THEYRE NOT KNEELERS. >> HE DID THIS BEFORE, TO KINGM
>> HE DID THIS BEFORE, TO KINGM JONG-UN.
JONG-UN. HE DISINVITED HIM.
HE DISINVITED HIM. >> YOU CANT FIRE ME, I QUIT.
>> YOU CANT FIRE ME, I QUIT. WE HAVE GOT TO GET TO THE LATEST
WE HAVE GOT TO GET TO THE LATEST IN -- I DONT KNOW.
IN -- I DONT KNOW. TO ME, ITS A DEBATE OVER
TO ME, ITS A DEBATE OVER WHETHER SEXINESS CAN BE
WHETHER SEXINESS CAN BE FEMINIST.
FEMINIST.
OR A FEMINIST CAN BE SEXY. >> THATS A GOOD WAY TO FRAME
>> THATS A GOOD WAY TO FRAME THE DEBATE.
THE DEBATE. >> TODAY, WE HAVE TWO VICTORIAS
>> TODAY, WE HAVE TWO VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS SPEAKING OUT,
SECRET MODELS SPEAKING OUT, DEFENDING THEIR ROLE AS
DEFENDING THEIR ROLE AS VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS AND THE
VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS AND THE CATWALK.
CATWALK.
>> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE
>> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE
TALKING ABOUT.
TALKING ABOUT.
>> YOUVE NEVER SEEN IT.
>> YOUVE NEVER SEEN IT.
YOU ONLY LOOK AT YOUR WIFE,
YOU ONLY LOOK AT YOUR WIFE,
EVER.
EVER.
THEYRE SAYING, I DO FIND IT EMPOWERING.NG, I DO FIND IT
EMPOWERING.
I THINK BEING SEXY HAS A PLACE
I THINK BEING SEXY HAS A PLACE
IN EVEN 2018 AMERICA IN THE
IN EVEN 2018 AMERICA IN THE
#METOO MOVEMENT.
#METOO MOVEMENT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT COMES OUT AND
AMERICA PAGEANT COMES OUT AND SAYS THEYRE GETTING RID OF THE
SAYS THEYRE GETTING RID OF THE SWIMSUIT COMPETITION.
SWIMSUIT COMPETITION. >> THEYRE GOING TO LOSE THE
>> THEYRE GOING TO LOSE THE VIEWERS.
VIEWERS.
>> THE LAST TWO. IT HASNT BEEN A POPULAR THING
IT HASNT BEEN A POPULAR THING FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
FOR A LOT OF YEARS. BUT THEYRE GOING TO GET RID OF
BUT THEYRE GOING TO GET RID OF THE SIMILARWIMSUIT COMPETITION A
THE SIMILARWIMSUIT COMPETITION A REVAMP THE EVENING GOWN
REVAMP THE EVENING GOWN COMPETITION.
COMPETITION.
YOU CAN GO OUT IN WHAT YOU WANT. >> YOU PROBABLY WONT WIN.U WANT.
>> YOU PROBABLY WONT WIN. >> AND WERE NOW INTERESTED IN
>> AND WERE NOW INTERESTED IN THE SOCIAL IMPACT INITIATIVES.
THE SOCIAL IMPACT INITIATIVES. WHO WANTS TO WATCH THAT?
WHO WANTS TO WATCH THAT? >> AND WHATS THE DEFINITION OF
>> AND WHATS THE DEFINITION OF A PAGEANT?
A PAGEANT? >> NOW, ITS A COMPETITION.
>> NOW, ITS A COMPETITION. >> FOR YEARS, THEY MAINTAINED IT
>> FOR YEARS, THEY MAINTAINED IT WASNT A PAGEANT, IT WAS A
WASNT A PAGEANT, IT WAS A SCHOLARSHIP COMPETITION.
SCHOLARSHIP COMPETITION. >> LOOKING AT THE VICTORIAS
>> LOOKING AT THE VICTORIAS SECRET MODEL THING, CAN YOU BE
SECRET MODEL THING, CAN YOU BE FEMINIST AND SEXY?
FEMINIST AND SEXY?
OF COURSE YOU CAN.
OF COURSE YOU CAN.
IM NOT VICTORIAS SECRET
IM NOT VICTORIAS SECRET
DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THAT FASHION
DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THAT FASHION
SHOW.
SHOW.
IM TWICE THE AGE AND TWICE THE
IM TWICE THE AGE AND TWICE THE
SIZE.
SIZE.
I ADMIRE THEIR COMMITMENT TO
I ADMIRE THEIR COMMITMENT TO
DIET AND FITNESS AND DATING
DIET AND FITNESS AND DATING
LEONARDO DiCAPRIO.
LEONARDO DiCAPRIO.
I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GREAT.
I THINK ALL OF THAT IS GREAT.
>> ARE YOU EDIMINISHING
>> ARE YOU EDIMINISHING
VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS?
VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS?
>> IM ADMIRING THEM. IT DOESNT TAKE THAT FOR WOMEN
IT DOESNT TAKE THAT FOR WOMEN TO BE BEAUTIFUL.
TO BE BEAUTIFUL. >> I LOVE THAT THEY EMBRACE THAT
>> I LOVE THAT THEY EMBRACE THAT PIECE OF THEMSELVES.
PIECE OF THEMSELVES. WE TRY TO MAKE WOMEN CHOOSE
WE TRY TO MAKE WOMEN CHOOSE BETWEEN SEXY AND STRONG OR SEXY
BETWEEN SEXY AND STRONG OR SEXY AND SMART, ARE DOING THEM A
AND SMART, ARE DOING THEM A DISSERVICE.
DISSERVICE.
>> DAN AGREES. >> HOW COULD I SAY NO TO THIS
>> HOW COULD I SAY NO TO THIS AUDIENCE?
AUDIENCE?
THERES A CRITICAL DIFFERENCE
THERES A CRITICAL DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WOMEN CHOOSING TO DO
BETWEEN WOMEN CHOOSING TO DO
SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN AND BEING COERCED OR FORCED INTO DOINGEING
COERCED OR FORCED INTO DOING SOMETHING.
SOMETHING.
THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS WHO
THE VICTORIAS SECRET MODELS WHO
ARE CHOOSING THIS AS THEIR PATH
ARE CHOOSING THIS AS THEIR PATH
AND THEIR CAREER.
AND THEIR CAREER.
>> AND THE MISS AMERICA
>> AND THE MISS AMERICA
CONTESTANTS.
CONTESTANTS.
>> AND THE #METOO MOVEMENT WHERE THINGD THE #METOO MOVEMENT WHERE
THING
WOMEN ARE FORCED TO DO THINGS THEY DONT WANT TO DO.O THINGS
THEY DONT WANT TO DO. >> I WOULD GO OUT IN MY
>> I WOULD GO OUT IN MY VICTORIAN LADY COSTUME THAT I
VICTORIAN LADY COSTUME THAT I WEAR TO THE BEACH.
WEAR TO THE BEACH. >> YOURE TAKING A LITTLE
>> YOURE TAKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT SPIN ON VICTORIA.
DIFFERENT SPIN ON VICTORIA. >> BUT THERES ANOTHER ANGLE
>> BUT THERES ANOTHER ANGLE THATS THE FEMINIST CRITIQUE.
THATS THE FEMINIST CRITIQUE. THESE REPRESENTATIONS OF BEAUTY
THESE REPRESENTATIONS OF BEAUTY ARE COERCIVE OF YOUNG GIRLS.
ARE COERCIVE OF YOUNG GIRLS. THEY FEEL THIS IS AN UNREALISTIC
THEY FEEL THIS IS AN UNREALISTIC REPUTATION.
REPUTATION.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPICTIONS OF BEAUTY.ERENT
DEPICTIONS OF BEAUTY. IS THAT HOW WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE
IS THAT HOW WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE GIRLS TO THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES.
GIRLS TO THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES. >> HOW ABOUT THE ATTRACTION TO
>> HOW ABOUT THE ATTRACTION TO SEXINESS AND TO GOOD-LOOKING
SEXINESS AND TO GOOD-LOOKING PEOPLE, THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF
PEOPLE, THEY HAVE ALL SORTS OF STUDIES ON THIS.
STUDIES ON THIS. BABIES IN THE CRADLE LOOK MORE
BABIES IN THE CRADLE LOOK MORE ATTRACTIVE FACES THAN FACES THAT
ATTRACTIVE FACES THAN FACES THAT ARE NOT CONVENTIONALLY
ARE NOT CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE.
ATTRACTIVE.
WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ERASE THIS FROM SOCIETY BY NO
ERASE THIS FROM SOCIETY BY NO LONGER HIGHLIGHTING WHAT HAVE
LONGER HIGHLIGHTING WHAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED CONVENTIONALLY
BEEN CONSIDERED CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE WOMEN OR BODIES.
ATTRACTIVE WOMEN OR BODIES. WE CAN ADD TO THE CHOICE.
WE CAN ADD TO THE CHOICE. >> I LOVE THAT YOURE USING
>> I LOVE THAT YOURE USING PANAPOLY AT 9:10 IN THE MORNING.
PANAPOLY AT 9:10 IN THE MORNING. THERES A TENDENCY IN OUR
THERES A TENDENCY IN OUR SOCIETY, WE SEE IT OVER AND OVER
SOCIETY, WE SEE IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AGAIN.
WE OVERCORRECT.
WE OVERCORRECT.
THE PENDULUM SWINGS ONE WAY.
THE PENDULUM SWINGS ONE WAY.
AND WE RECOGNIZE ITS GONE TOO FAR.WE RECOGNIZE ITS GONE TOO
FAR.
INSTEAD OF COMING BACK TO THE MIDDLE, THE PENDULUM SWINGS TO
MIDDLE, THE PENDULUM SWINGS TO THE OTHER SIDE.
THE OTHER SIDE. >> LOOK AT OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM.
>> LOOK AT OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. >> THATS RIGHT.
>> THATS RIGHT. IF AMY HOLMES WANTS TO GO OUT
IF AMY HOLMES WANTS TO GO OUT THERE AND SAY IM NOT THE SAME
THERE AND SAY IM NOT THE SAME SIZE OF THESE OTHER WOMEN.
SIZE OF THESE OTHER WOMEN. >> IM NOT WEARING MY UNDERWEAR
>> IM NOT WEARING MY UNDERWEAR IN PUBLIC.
IN PUBLIC.
>> AND LETS SAY YOU WENT OUT IN
>> AND LETS SAY YOU WENT OUT IN
A BATHING SUIT AND YOU WENT OVER TO THE INTERVIEW COMPETITION, IR
TO THE INTERVIEW COMPETITION, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A SMART CHOICE
THINK WE CAN MAKE A SMART CHOICE AND SAY, I DONT NEED MY MISS
AND SAY, I DONT NEED MY MISS AMERICA OR MY VICTORIAS SECRET
AMERICA OR MY VICTORIAS SECRET MOD TOLL BE LIKE A TOOTHPICK.
MOD TOLL BE LIKE A TOOTHPICK. I CAN ADMIRE ANOTHER SHAPE AND
I CAN ADMIRE ANOTHER SHAPE AND ANOTHER SIZE, WHILE I ADMIRE THE
ANOTHER SIZE, WHILE I ADMIRE THE THIN OR WHATEVER IT IS.
THIN OR WHATEVER IT IS. >> I THINK WE NEED TO CULTIVATE
>> I THINK WE NEED TO CULTIVATE OUR INNER VALUES AND OUR INNER
OUR INNER VALUES AND OUR INNER TALENTS.
TALENTS.
IF YOURE GOOD AT MATH, IF YOU
IF YOURE GOOD AT MATH, IF YOU
WANT TO BUILD A ROCKET SHIP, IF
WANT TO BUILD A ROCKET SHIP, IF
YOURE A GREAT MUSICIAN OR
YOURE A GREAT MUSICIAN OR
ATHLETE, THERES OTHER THINGS
ATHLETE, THERES OTHER THINGS
THAT GIRLS CAN ASPIRE TO THAN
THAT GIRLS CAN ASPIRE TO THAN
WALKING DOWN A RUNWAY.
WALKING DOWN A RUNWAY.
>> NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH A WOMAN STANDING UP THERE DOINGH A WOMAN
STANDING UP THERE DOING TRIGONOMETRY
TRIGONOMETRY TRIGONOMETRY.
TRIGONOMETRY. ITS NOT GOING TO RATE AS A
ITS NOT GOING TO RATE AS A BROADCAST PERSPECTIVE.
BROADCAST PERSPECTIVE. GOD BLESS ALL OF THEM.
GOD BLESS ALL OF THEM. WE WISH ALL OF THEM LUCK, THE

比爾-克林頓向莫妮卡-萊溫斯基道歉｜梅根-凱利-TODAY (Bill Clinton Apologizes To Monica Lewinsky | Megyn Kelly TODAY)