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  • -Can we talk about the coronavirus?

  • -Yeah. Are you stressed out about it?

  • How are you feeling about it? -I'm a little stressed.

  • I'm trying not to be stressed out, but I keep --

  • everything I read and see is scaring me.

  • -Yeah. -So I'm trying to be like,

  • "Wait. I want to take it seriously,

  • but I want to know what --" What is going on?

  • Because I feel like I'm getting mixed messages from

  • the Trump administration and what I'm seeing online

  • and in newspapers. -Yeah.

  • I mean, it's a real thing. It is worth taking seriously.

  • And we're starting to see it around the country now.

  • It's in multiple states. We've had multiple deaths.

  • New York City has its first confirmed case, which, you know,

  • matters to those of us here in New York in particular.

  • But this is something that -- I mean, it is going to --

  • it's spread in dozens of countries around the world.

  • It's likely to spread around the entire world.

  • A lot of people are going to get it,

  • potentially most of the world's population are going to get it,

  • which sounds terrible, but most of the people

  • who get coronavirus will not die from it.

  • -Okay. -It's got about

  • a 2% fatality rate. And the way that we all

  • need to deal with it, although it is a new threat --

  • we've never seen this virus before --

  • it's actually very old-fashioned ways of protecting ourselves.

  • You do all the things that you do to protect yourself

  • from getting a cold or from getting the flu.

  • We don't have to do anything outrageous.

  • We don't need to change our lives drastically

  • at an individual level. You just need to be

  • more vigilant about washing your hands,

  • make sure you don't develop patterns

  • where you don't touch your face.

  • That's the way we tend to give ourselves colds and the flu.

  • So at an individual level, there's no reason to panic,

  • but it's a serious thing. -I saw somewhere that said,

  • "Don't sneeze or cough on people."

  • I go, "Were we doing that?" [ Laughter ]

  • "Were people doing that?" -New Year's resolution.

  • -It's like, "I gotta stop coughing on people."

  • People not getting invited back to parties.

  • I've seen a lot of the masks around the city.

  • Is that a -- -That's probably not a thing.

  • I mean, you're seeing it, but it's probably not that smart.

  • The Surgeon General actually put out a statement which was like,

  • "You guys, stop buying masks!" -Yeah, I saw that.

  • -If you are sick, if you have respiratory symptoms, that's --

  • people are wearing a mask in that circumstance

  • because you're trying to avoid giving it to other people.

  • But in terms of being a healthy person and trying to avoid

  • getting infected, that's probably not that rational.

  • -And is Purell still -- -Sure.

  • If you can't wash -- If you can't --

  • First of all, get good at washing your hands.

  • -I'm fantastic at it. -Me too.

  • I've always been kind of a hand hygiene person.

  • -Me too. I love it. -This is why we get along!

  • -I know, exactly. [ Laughter ]

  • I always knew you were. -20 seconds in between

  • the hands, under the nails, backs of the hands. Right?

  • But you if can't do that, if you can't get access

  • to wash your hands, then using a hand sanitizer

  • that's got an adequate level of alcohol in it is a good move.

  • -Thank you, bud.

  • I gotta say congratulations again on the book.

  • -Thank you very much. -"Blowout."

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • Number one "New York Times" best-seller.

  • Not too shabby. -Not too shabby.

  • Thank you very much.

  • -Now it's going international these days, right?

  • -It is. It's being published

  • in a few other countries, which is cool.

  • I get to see it, like, in other languages.

  • -Isn't that the best? -Yeah, the British version of it

  • is, like, thicker. It makes it look longer

  • because they put it on fatter paper.

  • -Wow. -I was like, "Thanks!

  • You made me look like I did more work!"

  • [ Laughter ] Just saying.

  • -We always love you. Thank you so much for coming on.

  • -Nice to see you, my friend. -You're the best.

  • Rachel Maddow. [ Cheers and applause ]

  • Check out her best-selling book, "Blowout,"

  • and "The Rachel Maddow Show" at 9:00 p.m. on MSNBC.

-Can we talk about the coronavirus?

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