FORMER SENATOR SITTING WITH US, CHRIS MATTHEWS HAS NOW BEEN

CHRIS MATTHEWS HAS NOW BEEN JOINED BY CONGRESSWOMAN GABBARD.

JOINED BY CONGRESSWOMAN GABBARD. >> TULSI GABBARD OF HAWAII.

>> TULSI GABBARD OF HAWAII. >> ALOHA.

>> ALOHA. >> FIRST OF ALL, HOW FAR ARE YOU

>> FIRST OF ALL, HOW FAR ARE YOU INTO THIS RACE?

INTO THIS RACE?

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN FOR

ARE YOU GOING TO RUN FOR

RE-ELECTION IF YOU DONT GET THE

RE-ELECTION IF YOU DONT GET THE

NOMINATION?

NOMINATION?

>> IM FOCUSED ON RUNNING FOR

>> IM FOCUSED ON RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT.

PRESIDENT.

>> YOURE GIVING UP WHAT YOUVE

>> YOURE GIVING UP WHAT YOUVE

GOT.

GOT.

>> IM FOCUSED ON RUNNING FOR

>> IM FOCUSED ON RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT BECAUSE I THINK THERE

PRESIDENT BECAUSE I THINK THERE

ARE SERIOUS CHANGES AS I POINTED

ARE SERIOUS CHANGES AS I POINTED

OUT IN THIS DEBATE TONIGHT THAT

OUT IN THIS DEBATE TONIGHT THAT

NEED TO BE MADE TO OUR FOREIGN

NEED TO BE MADE TO OUR FOREIGN

POLICY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY

POLICY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY

CONNECTED TO EVERY SINGLE

CONNECTED TO EVERY SINGLE

DOMESTIC ISSUE THAT WE FACE.

DOMESTIC ISSUE THAT WE FACE.

>> WHY WERE YOU THE LONE VOICE

>> WHY WERE YOU THE LONE VOICE

OUT THERE GOING AFTER THE

OUT THERE GOING AFTER THE

NEOCONS, GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE

NEOCONS, GOING AFTER THE PEOPLE

THAT TOOK US INTO THESE WARS?

THAT TOOK US INTO THESE WARS?

>> THATS A GREAT --

>> THATS A GREAT --

>> YOURE THE ONLY ONE OUT

>> YOURE THE ONLY ONE OUT

THERE.

THERE.

>> THATS A GREAT QUESTION THAT

>> THATS A GREAT QUESTION THAT

I HOPE YOU ASK EVERY SINGLE

I HOPE YOU ASK EVERY SINGLE

OTHER PERSON YOU INTERVIEW.

OTHER PERSON YOU INTERVIEW.

I CAN TELL YOU, THIS COMES FROM

I CAN TELL YOU, THIS COMES FROM

A DEEPLY PERSONAL PLACE AS YOU

A DEEPLY PERSONAL PLACE AS YOU

KNOW.

KNOW.

I DEPLOYED TO IRAQ IN 2005

I DEPLOYED TO IRAQ IN 2005

DURING THE HEIGHT OF THAT WAR.

DURING THE HEIGHT OF THAT WAR.

I SERVED IN A MEDICAL UNIT WHERE

I SERVED IN A MEDICAL UNIT WHERE

EVERY SINGLE DAY I SAW THAT TERRIBLE HIGH HUMAN COST OF WAR

TERRIBLE HIGH HUMAN COST OF WAR AND IN CONGRESS SERVING OVER SIX

AND IN CONGRESS SERVING OVER SIX

YEARS ON THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS, ARMED SERVICES, HOMELANDAIRS,

ARMED SERVICES, HOMELAND

SECURITY COMMITTEES I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF NATIONAL SECURITY

IMPORTANCE OF NATIONAL SECURITY AND I KNOW THAT WITH THAT

AND I KNOW THAT WITH THAT EXPERIENCE AND THE CONVICTION

EXPERIENCE AND THE CONVICTION NOT TO BEND TO THE WHIMS OF THE

NOT TO BEND TO THE WHIMS OF THE

MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR

MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR

THE FOREIGN POLICY ESTABLISHMENT

THE FOREIGN POLICY ESTABLISHMENT

IM READY TO DO THAT JOB OF

IM READY TO DO THAT JOB OF

COMMANDER IN CHIEF ON DAY ONE. >> DOES IT BOTHER YOU THAT JOE

>> DOES IT BOTHER YOU THAT JOE BIDEN WHOS THE FRONT-RUNNER IN

BIDEN WHOS THE FRONT-RUNNER IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIGHT RIGHT NOW,

THE DEMOCRATIC FIGHT RIGHT NOW,

VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR?

VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR?

>> IT WAS THE WRONG VOTE. IT WAS THE WRONG VOTE.TE.

IT WAS THE WRONG VOTE. PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, AMERICANS

PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, AMERICANS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WHO ENLISTED

ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WHO ENLISTED AFTER THOSE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON

AFTER THOSE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON 9/11 BY AL QAEDA, WE JOINED THE

9/11 BY AL QAEDA, WE JOINED THE MILITARY TO GO AFTER THOSE WHO

MILITARY TO GO AFTER THOSE WHO ATTACKED US.

ATTACKED US.

AND WE WERE LIED TO. WE WERE BETRAYED BY THOSE WHO

WE WERE BETRAYED BY THOSE WHO SENT US THERE, BY THOSE WHO

SENT US THERE, BY THOSE WHO PRESENTED THIS FALSE EVIDENCE OR

PRESENTED THIS FALSE EVIDENCE OR BELIEVED IT WITHOUT ASKING THOSE

BELIEVED IT WITHOUT ASKING THOSE TOUGH QUESTIONS.

TOUGH QUESTIONS. IM NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY OTHER

IM NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY OTHER

SERVICE MEMBER TO GO THROUGH THAT, TO GO TO WAR UNDER THESE

THAT, TO GO TO WAR UNDER THESE FALSE PRETENSES OR THIS LACK OF

FALSE PRETENSES OR THIS LACK OF ACTUALLY EXAMINING THE EVIDENCE

ACTUALLY EXAMINING THE EVIDENCE

THATS THERE.

THATS THERE.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE

DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM NEXT SUMMER?

DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM NEXT SUMMER?

BECAUSE PLATFORMS DO MATTER. SAY NO MORE POLICY OR REGIME

SAY NO MORE POLICY OR REGIME CHANGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

CHANGE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

NO MORE OF THAT.

NO MORE OF THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING

AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING

THATS IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO

THATS IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO

RECOGNIZE, IS SO OFTEN THESE

RECOGNIZE, IS SO OFTEN THESE

REGIME CHANGE WARS ARE WAGED

REGIME CHANGE WARS ARE WAGED

UNDER THE GUISE OF

UNDER THE GUISE OF

HUMANITARIANISM.

HUMANITARIANISM.

SAYING WELL, WE NEED TO GO AND

SAYING WELL, WE NEED TO GO AND

HELP THE PEOPLE IN THESE

HELP THE PEOPLE IN THESE

COUNTRIES.

COUNTRIES.

BUT IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS EVERY

BUT IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS EVERY

SINGLE TIME IS PEOPLE END UP

SINGLE TIME IS PEOPLE END UP

WITH MORE SUFFERING, MORE DEATH,

WITH MORE SUFFERING, MORE DEATH,

MORE DESTRUCTION.

MORE DESTRUCTION.

>> CONGRESSMAN, IM SO GLAD