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PRESIDEN >>> A VERY IMPRESSIVE WIN FOR
>>> A VERY IMPRESSIVE WIN FOR BILL CLINTON, ESPECIALLY IN THE
BILL CLINTON, ESPECIALLY IN THE BIG PIVOTAL STATES OF TEXAS AND
BIG PIVOTAL STATES OF TEXAS AND FLORIDA.
FLORIDA. >> IT IS ONLY TONIGHT THAT I
>> IT IS ONLY TONIGHT THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CALL
FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CALL THIS SUPER TUESDAY.
THIS SUPER TUESDAY. >> BILL CLINTON TONIGHT, WHO WAS
>> BILL CLINTON TONIGHT, WHO WAS EARLY PERCEIVED AS THE
EARLY PERCEIVED AS THE FRONTRUNNER AND RAN INTO A PATCH
FRONTRUNNER AND RAN INTO A PATCH OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTIES, MAKES
OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTIES, MAKES A CLAIM TONIGHT ON THE IDEA THAT
A CLAIM TONIGHT ON THE IDEA THAT HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE
HE IS THE FRONTRUNNER FOR THE DEMOCRATS.
DEMOCRATS. >> THAT WAS TOM BROKAW’S
>> THAT WAS TOM BROKAW’S COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY 28
COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY 28 YEARS AGO WHEN A YOUNG BILL
YEARS AGO WHEN A YOUNG BILL CLINTON, THE COMEBACK KID, TOOK
CLINTON, THE COMEBACK KID, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A NEW GROUPING OF
ADVANTAGE OF A NEW GROUPING OF SOUTHERN PRIMARIES IN 1992,
SOUTHERN PRIMARIES IN 1992, SWEEPING THE SOUTH ON SUPER
SWEEPING THE SOUTH ON SUPER TUESDAY AND COMPLETING A RETURN
TUESDAY AND COMPLETING A RETURN THAT HE HAD BEGUN IN NEW
THAT HE HAD BEGUN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HAMPSHIRE. TOM JOINS US NOW, ALONG WITH
TOM JOINS US NOW, ALONG WITH SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR
SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR NBC NEWS DIGITAL, SHANNON
NBC NEWS DIGITAL, SHANNON PETTYPIECE AND NATIONAL POLITICS
PETTYPIECE AND NATIONAL POLITICS REPORTER FOR "THE NEW YORK
REPORTER FOR "THE NEW YORK TIMES" JENNIFER MEDINA.
TIMES" JENNIFER MEDINA. >> TOM, ONCE AGAIN, SUPER
>> TOM, ONCE AGAIN, SUPER TUESDAY SHOWS WHY IT IS SUPER
TUESDAY SHOWS WHY IT IS SUPER FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT WINS.
FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT WINS. ONCE AGAIN, IT IS BLACK
ONCE AGAIN, IT IS BLACK DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT MAKE ALL
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT IN THE WORLD.
THE DIFFERENT IN THE WORLD. >> WELL, JOE, AS I WAS WATCHING
>> WELL, JOE, AS I WAS WATCHING ALL OF THAT, I WAS THINKING
ALL OF THAT, I WAS THINKING ABOUT, THAT WAS FOR BILL CLINTON
ABOUT, THAT WAS FOR BILL CLINTON ABOUT HIS 20th COMEBACK OF THAT
ABOUT HIS 20th COMEBACK OF THAT YEAR ALONE.
YEAR ALONE. HE WAS MAKING A COMEBACK EVERY
HE WAS MAKING A COMEBACK EVERY OTHER WEEK, AS YOU MAY RECALL.
OTHER WEEK, AS YOU MAY RECALL. IT BEGAN WITH SCANDALS THAT WERE
IT BEGAN WITH SCANDALS THAT WERE GOING ON IN ARKANSAS, BOTH
GOING ON IN ARKANSAS, BOTH PERSONAL AND THAT HAD MONEY
PERSONAL AND THAT HAD MONEY ATTACHED TO THEM AS WELL.
ATTACHED TO THEM AS WELL. HE WAS ALWAYS CLAIMING A
HE WAS ALWAYS CLAIMING A VICTORY.
VICTORY. THEN, OF COURSE, HE GOT TO THE
THEN, OF COURSE, HE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE
PLACE WHERE HE WAS GOING TO BE THE CANDIDATE, BECAUSE HE WAS
THE CANDIDATE, BECAUSE HE WAS KIND OF BORN TO RUN FOR
KIND OF BORN TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF
PRESIDENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF HIS LIFE ON.
HIS LIFE ON. NO ONE HAS GONE THROUGH MORE, I
NO ONE HAS GONE THROUGH MORE, I SUPPOSE, INCARNATIONS THAN BILL
SUPPOSE, INCARNATIONS THAN BILL CLINTON.
CLINTON. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW AS I KEEP SAYING IS, YOU
NOW AS I KEEP SAYING IS, YOU CANNOT OVERESTIMATE THE IMPACT
CANNOT OVERESTIMATE THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
OF SOCIAL MEDIA. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FINGER ON A
EVERYBODY HAS THEIR FINGER ON A KEY STROKE SOMEWHERE.
KEY STROKE SOMEWHERE. YOU CAN’T TRUST MOST OF WHAT YOU
YOU CAN’T TRUST MOST OF WHAT YOU ARE SEEING, FRANKLY, THESE DAYS.
ARE SEEING, FRANKLY, THESE DAYS. IT MOVES A WHOLE LANDSCAPE
IT MOVES A WHOLE LANDSCAPE AROUND.
AROUND. THE FACT IS THAT, FIVE DAYS AGO
THE FACT IS THAT, FIVE DAYS AGO THEY WERE SAYING JOE IS A NICE
THEY WERE SAYING JOE IS A NICE GUY BUT IT’S OVER.
GUY BUT IT’S OVER. THERE WAS JOE BACK THE PLACE HE
THERE WAS JOE BACK THE PLACE HE LIKES TO BE, MAKING A BIG
LIKES TO BE, MAKING A BIG SPEECH, BEING TRIUMPHANT AGAIN.
SPEECH, BEING TRIUMPHANT AGAIN. WHAT I’M SAYING IS, THIS IS A
WHAT I’M SAYING IS, THIS IS A HUGELY IMPORTANT WEEK.
HUGELY IMPORTANT WEEK. IT AIN’T OVER.
IT AIN’T OVER. >> MIKE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
>> MIKE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE IN OUR LAST HOUR.
NEW HAMPSHIRE IN OUR LAST HOUR. WE SAT THERE ON THE SET WITH JOE
WE SAT THERE ON THE SET WITH JOE BIDEN IN THAT RESTAURANT IN
BIDEN IN THAT RESTAURANT IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. IN SOME WAYS, IT FELT LIKE IT
IN SOME WAYS, IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ALREADY OVER.
WAS ALREADY OVER. HE SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL.
HE SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL. HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO COME IN
HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO COME IN FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW
FOURTH OR FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HAMPSHIRE. PEOPLE SAID HE LOST A STEP.
PEOPLE SAID HE LOST A STEP. THERE WAS ALMOST A FUNERAL FEEL
THERE WAS ALMOST A FUNERAL FEEL TO IT, LIKE WE WERE -- SOME
TO IT, LIKE WE WERE -- SOME PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WERE
PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WERE COMING TO SAY GOOD-BYE
COMING TO SAY GOOD-BYE POLITICALLY TO JOE BIDEN AT SOME
POLITICALLY TO JOE BIDEN AT SOME OF THE EVENTS.
OF THE EVENTS. NOW HERE WE ARE THREE WEEKS
NOW HERE WE ARE THREE WEEKS LATER TALKING ABOUT HIM AGAIN AS
LATER TALKING ABOUT HIM AGAIN AS THE FRONTRUNNER IN THIS RACE.
THE FRONTRUNNER IN THIS RACE. >> YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT AND
>> YOU KNOW, TO THAT POINT AND THE POINT YOU, TOM, RAISED IS IT
THE POINT YOU, TOM, RAISED IS IT IS AMAZING TO ME THE NUMBER OF
IS AMAZING TO ME THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES AND THE PEOPLE
CANDIDATES AND THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING CANDIDATES FOR
SURROUNDING CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT THIS YEAR AND FOR THE
PRESIDENT THIS YEAR AND FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF CYCLES, WHO THINK
PAST COUPLE OF CYCLES, WHO THINK THAT TWITTER IS THE UNIVERSE.
THAT TWITTER IS THE UNIVERSE. THEIR CAMPAIGNS AND THOUGHTS ARE
THEIR CAMPAIGNS AND THOUGHTS ARE MOLDED BY WHAT THEY SEE ON
MOLDED BY WHAT THEY SEE ON TWITTER.
TWITTER. IN THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU WERE
IN THE RESTAURANT THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, IN BARBER SHOPS
SPEAKING ABOUT, IN BARBER SHOPS AROUND THE COUNTRY, IN GAS
AROUND THE COUNTRY, IN GAS STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT
STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT TWITTER ALL DAY LONG.
TWITTER ALL DAY LONG. >> THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF
>> THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF YOU LISTEN TO THE LAST COUPLE OF
YOU LISTEN TO THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE
DAYS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWED
PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWED SAID, I MADE UP MY MIND IN THE
SAID, I MADE UP MY MIND IN THE LAST 12 HOURS OR SO.
LAST 12 HOURS OR SO. I’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT
I’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN, I HAVE
I HAVE A BUSINESS TO RUN, I HAVE KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL, I HAVE
KIDS TO GET TO SCHOOL, I HAVE THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO.
THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO. WE’RE CONSUMED BY IT.
WE’RE CONSUMED BY IT. THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS, NO
THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS, NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF BEING AMBUSHED
BETTER EXAMPLE OF BEING AMBUSHED BY EVENTS THAN THIS HEALTH
BY EVENTS THAN THIS HEALTH CRISIS WE’RE GOING THROUGH.
CRISIS WE’RE GOING THROUGH. THIS IS OF ENORMOUS PROPORTIONS.
THIS IS OF ENORMOUS PROPORTIONS. IT HAS NO BOUNDARIES.
IT HAS NO BOUNDARIES. WE DON’T HAVE A WAY OF
WE DON’T HAVE A WAY OF CONTROLLING IT.
CONTROLLING IT. THE VERY BEST PEOPLE IN THE
THE VERY BEST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD ARE SAYING, MAYBE IN A
FIELD ARE SAYING, MAYBE IN A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF WE
YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF WE WILL HAVE A GRIP ON THIS OF SOME
WILL HAVE A GRIP ON THIS OF SOME KIND.
KIND. IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE ARE
IN THE MEANTIME, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHAT DO I DO?
SAYING, WHAT DO I DO? WHAT DO I DO ABOUT MY CHILDREN,
WHAT DO I DO ABOUT MY CHILDREN, MY WORKPLACE?
MY WORKPLACE? WE’RE GOING THROUGH A REAL
WE’RE GOING THROUGH A REAL TRANSITION BOTH POLITICALLY,
TRANSITION BOTH POLITICALLY, SCIENTIFICALLY, ECONOMICALLY.
SCIENTIFICALLY, ECONOMICALLY. THE WORLD IS A MUCH DIFFERENT
THE WORLD IS A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE TODAY THAN IT WAS TEN DAYS
PLACE TODAY THAN IT WAS TEN DAYS AGO, QUITE HONESTLY.
AGO, QUITE HONESTLY. >> WANT TO GET TO SHANNON.
>> WANT TO GET TO SHANNON. YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT SUPER
YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT SUPER TUESDAY’S SILVER LINING FOR
TUESDAY’S SILVER LINING FOR TRUMP.
TRUMP. SHANNON, TELL US ABOUT IT.
SHANNON, TELL US ABOUT IT. >> WELL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY
>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD FLUS SNEWS AND BAD NEWS FOR
GOOD FLUS SNEWS AND BAD NEWS FOR TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
TRUMP CAMPAIGN. YOU SEE BIDEN DOING INCREDIBLY
YOU SEE BIDEN DOING INCREDIBLY WELL WITH SUBURBAN VOTERS, WITH
WELL WITH SUBURBAN VOTERS, WITH BLACK VOTERS.
BLACK VOTERS. YOU SEE LARGE DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT
YOU SEE LARGE DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT IN VIRGINIA AND NORTH CAROLINA
IN VIRGINIA AND NORTH CAROLINA THAT COULD BE INDICATORS FOR HOW
THAT COULD BE INDICATORS FOR HOW THINGS WILL GO IN MICHIGAN AND
THINGS WILL GO IN MICHIGAN AND PENNSYLVANIA.
PENNSYLVANIA. I THINK THAT’S THE DOWNSIDE FOR
I THINK THAT’S THE DOWNSIDE FOR TRUMP.
TRUMP. THE GOOD SIDE FOR THE TRUMP
THE GOOD SIDE FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS TO THE POINT YOU
CAMPAIGN IS TO THE POINT YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT THIS IS
HAVE BEEN MAKING THAT THIS IS FAR FROM OVER.
FAR FROM OVER. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS WANTED
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS WANTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THIS
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING FOR THIS NOMINATING PROCESS TO DRAG OUT
NOMINATING PROCESS TO DRAG OUT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. THEIR DREAM SCENARIO WOULD BE A
THEIR DREAM SCENARIO WOULD BE A CONTESTED CONVENTION.
CONTESTED CONVENTION. WITH SANDERS STILL IN STRIKING
WITH SANDERS STILL IN STRIKING DISTANCE, THEY ARE HOPING THAT
DISTANCE, THEY ARE HOPING THAT AT THE END, IF BIDEN IS THE
AT THE END, IF BIDEN IS THE NOMINEE, HE COMES OUT BRUISED,
NOMINEE, HE COMES OUT BRUISED, BLOODIED, BROKE, LOW ON MONEY,
BLOODIED, BROKE, LOW ON MONEY, WHILE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS HAD
WHILE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS HAD THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON RALLIES
THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON RALLIES AND FOCUS ON THEIR OWN ATTACKS
AND FOCUS ON THEIR OWN ATTACKS AGAINST BIDEN OR SANDERS,
AGAINST BIDEN OR SANDERS, WHOEVER THE NOMINEE SHOULD BE.
WHOEVER THE NOMINEE SHOULD BE. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN VERY -- HAS BEEN HONING THOSE
VERY -- HAS BEEN HONING THOSE ATTACKS ON BIDEN.
ATTACKS ON BIDEN. WE SAW IT AT A RALLY MONDAY
WE SAW IT AT A RALLY MONDAY NIGHT, LAYING INTO THE GAFFS AND
NIGHT, LAYING INTO THE GAFFS AND HOW THEY WILL PUT BIDEN INTO A
HOW THEY WILL PUT BIDEN INTO A HOME IF HE IS ELECTED.
HOME IF HE IS ELECTED. AND THE BERNIE SANDERS SOCIALIST
AND THE BERNIE SANDERS SOCIALIST ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. THEY HAVE TIME TO CREATE
THEY HAVE TIME TO CREATE CARICATURES OF THE CANDIDATES.
CARICATURES OF THE CANDIDATES. >> YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT THE
>> YOU ARE WRITING ABOUT THE LATINO VOTE AS IT APPLIES TO
LATINO VOTE AS IT APPLIES TO THIS PROCESS, JENNIFER.
THIS PROCESS, JENNIFER. LET’S TALK ABOUT THAT FROM LAST
LET’S TALK ABOUT THAT FROM LAST NIGHT.
NIGHT. JOE BIDEN WON A SURPRISING
JOE BIDEN WON A SURPRISING VICTORY IN TEXAS.
VICTORY IN TEXAS. BERNIE SANDERS DID WIN THE
BERNIE SANDERS DID WIN THE LATINO VOTE THERE.
LATINO VOTE THERE. HE DID VERY WELL AMONG NEVADA.
HE DID VERY WELL AMONG NEVADA. CALIFORNIA, IT’S LATE TO BE
CALIFORNIA, IT’S LATE TO BE SEEN.
SEEN. PRESUMABLY, SANDERS WILL DO WELL
PRESUMABLY, SANDERS WILL DO WELL AMONG LATINOS THERE.
AMONG LATINOS THERE. HE HAS INVESTED A LOT OF TIME
HE HAS INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO KOURING INGCOURT
AND ENERGY INTO KOURING INGCOURT LATINO VOTE.
LATINO VOTE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE KNOW IS THEY REMAIN THE
WHAT WE KNOW IS THEY REMAIN THE FASTEST GROWING GROUP AND THE
FASTEST GROWING GROUP AND THE SECOND LARGEST NON-WHITE
SECOND LARGEST NON-WHITE DEMOGRAPHIC IN 2020.
DEMOGRAPHIC IN 2020. IT IS CLEARLY A DEMOGRAPHIC THE
IT IS CLEARLY A DEMOGRAPHIC THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN HAS POURED A
SANDERS CAMPAIGN HAS POURED A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES INTO.
LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES INTO. IT HAS PAID OFF.
IT HAS PAID OFF. LATINOS ARE KEEPING THE SANDERS
LATINOS ARE KEEPING THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN ALIVE IN SOME SENSE IN
CAMPAIGN ALIVE IN SOME SENSE IN TEXAS AND IN CALIFORNIA.
TEXAS AND IN CALIFORNIA. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STATES
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STATES BEYOND IS A BIG QUESTION.
BEYOND IS A BIG QUESTION. WE’RE LOOKING AHEAD AT TWO VERY
WE’RE LOOKING AHEAD AT TWO VERY DIFFERENT STATES, ARIZONA AND
DIFFERENT STATES, ARIZONA AND FLORIDA, WHERE LATINOS ARE VERY
FLORIDA, WHERE LATINOS ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN BOTH OF THOSE
DIFFERENT IN BOTH OF THOSE STATES.
STATES. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS RECEIVED
THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS RECEIVED ENDORSEMENTS FROM PROMINENT
ENDORSEMENTS FROM PROMINENT LATINO ELECTED OFFICIALS,
LATINO ELECTED OFFICIALS, INCLUDING IN TEXAS AND
INCLUDING IN TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA. I THINK WHAT’S INTERESTING FROM
I THINK WHAT’S INTERESTING FROM THE CALIFORNIA AND THE WEST IS
THE CALIFORNIA AND THE WEST IS THAT YOU SEE SO MANY LATINOS AND
THAT YOU SEE SO MANY LATINOS AND YOUNG LATINOS IN PARTICULAR WHO
YOUNG LATINOS IN PARTICULAR WHO REALLY FEEL TURNED ON AND
REALLY FEEL TURNED ON AND LISTENED TO BY THE SANDERS
LISTENED TO BY THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN AND WHAT HAPPENS TO
CAMPAIGN AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT ENERGY, I THINK IT’S A BIG
THAT ENERGY, I THINK IT’S A BIG INTERESTING THING TO WATCH.
INTERESTING THING TO WATCH. >> THAT’S THE FEELING.
>> THAT’S THE FEELING. WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC POLICY
WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC POLICY ISSUE?
ISSUE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT LATINO
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT LATINO VOTERS ARE HEARING FROM BERNIE
VOTERS ARE HEARING FROM BERNIE SANDERS ON QUESTIONS OF POLICY
SANDERS ON QUESTIONS OF POLICY THAT PERHAPS THEY’RE NOT HEARING
THAT PERHAPS THEY’RE NOT HEARING FROM JOE BIDEN AND OTHER MORE
FROM JOE BIDEN AND OTHER MORE MODERATE CONDITIONANDIDATES?
MODERATE CONDITIONANDIDATES? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THERE’S A FEW THINGS I HEAR OVER
THERE’S A FEW THINGS I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM SUPPORTERS.
AND OVER AGAIN FROM SUPPORTERS. ONE IS HEALTH CARE.
ONE IS HEALTH CARE. NUMBER TWO IS STUDENT LOANS AND
NUMBER TWO IS STUDENT LOANS AND STUDENT DEBT.
STUDENT DEBT. NUMBER THREE AND IN THIS ORDER
NUMBER THREE AND IN THIS ORDER IS IMMIGRATION.
IS IMMIGRATION. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN EMOTIONAL TIE TO IMMIGRATION
AN EMOTIONAL TIE TO IMMIGRATION OR WHO HAVE SOME SORT OF FAMILY
OR WHO HAVE SOME SORT OF FAMILY TIE TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS
TIE TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND FEEL LIKE SANDERS IS REALLY
AND FEEL LIKE SANDERS IS REALLY SAYING THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY
SAYING THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY WANT TO HEAR.
WANT TO HEAR. IT’S MORE ABOUT THE SORT OF
IT’S MORE ABOUT THE SORT OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND SOCIAL
SOCIAL PROGRAMS AND SOCIAL PROMISES THAT HE IS MAKING THAT
PROMISES THAT HE IS MAKING THAT ARE REALLY DRAWING THESE YOUNG
ARE REALLY DRAWING THESE YOUNG LATINO VOTERS.
LATINO VOTERS. >> YOU KNOW, TOM, EARLIER YOU
>> YOU KNOW, TOM, EARLIER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BILL CLINTON.
WERE TALKING ABOUT BILL CLINTON. WE SHOWED THE CLIP, THE COMEBACK
WE SHOWED THE CLIP, THE COMEBACK KID IN 1992.
KID IN 1992. IN THE COURSE OF YOUR CAREER,
IN THE COURSE OF YOUR CAREER, THE COURSE OF COVERAGE OF
THE COURSE OF COVERAGE OF PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES, OR ANY
PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES, OR ANY ELECTIONS, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN
ELECTIONS, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SUCH A SHOCKING COMEBACK WITHIN
SUCH A SHOCKING COMEBACK WITHIN ONE WEEK AS WE HAVE SEEN FROM
ONE WEEK AS WE HAVE SEEN FROM THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN?
THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN? >> NO.
>> NO. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. WE ALL -- THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
WE ALL -- THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG
BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME HAVE KNOWN JOE PERSONALLY.
TIME HAVE KNOWN JOE PERSONALLY. IT DOESN’T MEAN WE’RE GREAT
IT DOESN’T MEAN WE’RE GREAT FRIENDS WITH HIM.
FRIENDS WITH HIM. IT’S PART OF THE CULTURE.
IT’S PART OF THE CULTURE. >> SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
>> SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. >> WE HAVE GROWN UP WITH.
>> WE HAVE GROWN UP WITH. JOE IS THE OLD WARRIOR.
JOE IS THE OLD WARRIOR. I SAW HIM OUT IN IOWA.
I SAW HIM OUT IN IOWA. IT WAS SAD.
IT WAS SAD. HE WAS IN A SMALL ROOM BECAUSE
HE WAS IN A SMALL ROOM BECAUSE THEY HAD TO FILL IT UP.
THEY HAD TO FILL IT UP. THEY DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE
THEY DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
TO DO THAT. BUTTIGIEG WAS DOING BETTER
BUTTIGIEG WAS DOING BETTER ACROSS THE STREET.
ACROSS THE STREET. I THOUGHT, THIS IS THE LAST
I THOUGHT, THIS IS THE LAST HURRAH FOR JOE AT THIS POINT.
HURRAH FOR JOE AT THIS POINT. YOU COULD SEE HIM TAILING DOWN
YOU COULD SEE HIM TAILING DOWN MANY THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT
MANY THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT CAUGHT FIRE.
CAUGHT FIRE. I’M NOT QUITE SURE WHY.
I’M NOT QUITE SURE WHY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE,
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN HIS AGE GROUP,
ESPECIALLY IN HIS AGE GROUP, BEGAN TO SAY, THIS IS SERIOUS
BEGAN TO SAY, THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF THAT WE’RE DEALING WITH.
STUFF THAT WE’RE DEALING WITH. WE’RE NOW TALKING ABOUT MAKING
WE’RE NOW TALKING ABOUT MAKING JUDGEMENTS ABOUT NOT JUST ABOUT
JUDGEMENTS ABOUT NOT JUST ABOUT THE ECONOMY BUT ALSO ABOUT
THE ECONOMY BUT ALSO ABOUT HEALTH SCARES, ABOUT WHAT’S
HEALTH SCARES, ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND
GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WHAT’S HAPPENING AND WHAT’S
WHAT’S HAPPENING AND WHAT’S HAPPENING TO THE CHARACTER OF
HAPPENING TO THE CHARACTER OF AMERICAN POLITICS AT THE
AMERICAN POLITICS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
NATIONAL LEVEL. UNDER THIS PRESIDENT.
UNDER THIS PRESIDENT. THIS WHIMSICAL WAY, I’M NOT
THIS WHIMSICAL WAY, I’M NOT GOING TO DO THIS, I WANT TO
GOING TO DO THIS, I WANT TO CHANGE TO THIS.
CHANGE TO THIS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AMUSED BY
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AMUSED BY THAT AND ARE WELCOMING IT.
THAT AND ARE WELCOMING IT. OTHERS ARE SAYING, WAIT A
OTHERS ARE SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
MINUTE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BIG
FUTURE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BIG DECISIONS HERE.
DECISIONS HERE. I THINK THAT THAT’S WHAT
I THINK THAT THAT’S WHAT PROMPTED SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY
PROMPTED SOME PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, TO SAY,
ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, TO SAY, YOU BETTER TAKE A DEEP BREATH
YOU BETTER TAKE A DEEP BREATH HERE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS
HERE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS WE WANT TO GO AND HOW WE WANT TO
WE WANT TO GO AND HOW WE WANT TO GET THERE.
GET THERE. IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT THIS
IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS OUT OF GAS, BECAUSE
PRESIDENT IS OUT OF GAS, BECAUSE HE HAS A WAY OF KIND OF TURNING
HE HAS A WAY OF KIND OF TURNING THINGS AROUND.
THINGS AROUND. IF YOU LOOK AT HIS REACTION,
IF YOU LOOK AT HIS REACTION, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 24
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, HE CAME OUT PUNCHING AWAY
HOURS, HE CAME OUT PUNCHING AWAY AGAIN.
AGAIN. NOT ACKNOWLEDGING IN ANY WAY
NOT ACKNOWLEDGING IN ANY WAY THAT JOE HAD HAD A BIG TIME.
THAT JOE HAD HAD A BIG TIME. >> TOM BROKAW, THANK YOU SO
>> TOM BROKAW, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MUCH. SHANNON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.