>>> TIME FOR TONIGHT’S LAST WORD.

WORD. THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS IS GOING

THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS IS GOING TO GET WORSE FOR DONALD TRUMP

TO GET WORSE FOR DONALD TRUMP EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT WILL

EVEN THOUGH THE PRESIDENT WILL PROBABLY STAY PHYSICALLY HEALTHY

PROBABLY STAY PHYSICALLY HEALTHY THROUGHOUT THE CRISIS, HIS

THROUGHOUT THE CRISIS, HIS MENTAL HEALTH COULD DECLINE EACH

MENTAL HEALTH COULD DECLINE EACH DAY OF THE CRISIS.

DAY OF THE CRISIS. SOME MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS

SOME MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS LIKE OUR NEXT GUEST BELIEVE THAT

LIKE OUR NEXT GUEST BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT’S MENTAL HEALTH

THE PRESIDENT’S MENTAL HEALTH HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE

HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN DECLINE.

IN DECLINE. THE INCOMPETENCE OF DONALD TRUMP

THE INCOMPETENCE OF DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IS ON

AND HIS ADMINISTRATION IS ON DRAMATIC AND DANGEROUS DISPLAY

DRAMATIC AND DANGEROUS DISPLAY EVERY DAY NOW.

EVERY DAY NOW. THE PRESIDENT DEMONSTRATED IN

THE PRESIDENT DEMONSTRATED IN LAST NIGHT’S PRESS CONFERENCE

LAST NIGHT’S PRESS CONFERENCE THAT HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO DEAL

THAT HE HAS NO IDEA HOW TO DEAL WITH THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS.

WITH THE CORONAVIRUS CRISIS. HE DEMONSTRATED A COMPLETE LACK

HE DEMONSTRATED A COMPLETE LACK OF COMPREHENSION OF THE

OF COMPREHENSION OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE CRISIS.

DIMENSIONS OF THE CRISIS. HE CONTRADICTED PUBLIC HEALTH

HE CONTRADICTED PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS BEFORE AND AFTER THEY

EXPERTS BEFORE AND AFTER THEY SPOKE AS IF HE DIDN’T HEAR A

SPOKE AS IF HE DIDN’T HEAR A WORD THAT THEY SAID.

WORD THAT THEY SAID. AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT

AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT HE CARES MUCH, MUCH MORE ABOUT

HE CARES MUCH, MUCH MORE ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE STOCK MARKET

THE HEALTH OF THE STOCK MARKET THAN THE HEALTH OF HUMAN BEINGS.

THAN THE HEALTH OF HUMAN BEINGS. >> I REALLY THINK THE STOCK

>> I REALLY THINK THE STOCK MARKET, SOMETHING I KNOW A LOT

MARKET, SOMETHING I KNOW A LOT ABOUT, I THINK IT TOOK A HILT

ABOUT, I THINK IT TOOK A HILT MAYBE FOR TWO REASONS.

MAYBE FOR TWO REASONS. I THINK THEY LOOK AT THE PEOPLE

I THINK THEY LOOK AT THE PEOPLE YOU WATCHED DEBATING LAST NIGHT

YOU WATCHED DEBATING LAST NIGHT AND THEY THINK IF THERE’S EVEN A

AND THEY THINK IF THERE’S EVEN A POSSIBILITY THAT COULD HAPPEN, I

POSSIBILITY THAT COULD HAPPEN, I REALLY THINK IT TAKES A HIT

REALLY THINK IT TAKES A HIT BECAUSE OF THAT.

BECAUSE OF THAT. AND IT CERTAINLY TOOK A HIT

AND IT CERTAINLY TOOK A HIT BECAUSE OF THIS.

BECAUSE OF THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAINS AND

BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAINS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, AND PEOPLE

VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, AND PEOPLE COMING IN.

COMING IN. BUT I THINK THE STOCK MARKET

BUT I THINK THE STOCK MARKET WILL RECOVER.

WILL RECOVER. >> HE THINKS THE STOCK MARKET

>> HE THINKS THE STOCK MARKET WILL RECOVER.

WILL RECOVER. AND OF COURSE THE STOCK MARKET

AND OF COURSE THE STOCK MARKET CONTINUED RECORD LOSSES TODAY,

CONTINUED RECORD LOSSES TODAY, DROPPING NEARLY 1,200 POINTS.

DROPPING NEARLY 1,200 POINTS. IT’S THE BIGGEST ONE-DAY POINT

IT’S THE BIGGEST ONE-DAY POINT DECLINE IN HISTORY THE DAY AFTER

DECLINE IN HISTORY THE DAY AFTER DONALD TRUMP SAYS I THINK THE

DONALD TRUMP SAYS I THINK THE STOCK MARKET WILL RECOVER.

STOCK MARKET WILL RECOVER. JOINING US NOW IS DR. LANCE

JOINING US NOW IS DR. LANCE DODES.

DODES. DR. DODES IS A CONTRIBUTOR TO

DR. DODES IS A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE BEST-SELLING BOOK "THE

THE BEST-SELLING BOOK "THE DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD

DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD TRUMP: 37 PSYCHIATRISTS AND

TRUMP: 37 PSYCHIATRISTS AND MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS ASSESS A

MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS ASSESS A PRESIDENT."

PRESIDENT." DR. DODES, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU

DR. DODES, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WERE WATCHING LAST NIGHT WHEN

WERE WATCHING LAST NIGHT WHEN THE PRESIDENT PARTICIPATED IN

THE PRESIDENT PARTICIPATED IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE WE

THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE WE WENT FROM A PRESIDENT WHO SEEMS

WENT FROM A PRESIDENT WHO SEEMS TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT’S

TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON, WORRIED ABOUT THE

GOING ON, WORRIED ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET, TO PUBLIC HEALTH

STOCK MARKET, TO PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERTS EXPLAINING THINGS THAT

EXPERTS EXPLAINING THINGS THAT THE PRESIDENT THEN IMMEDIATELY

THE PRESIDENT THEN IMMEDIATELY CONTRADICTED?

CONTRADICTED? >> WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT WAS

>> WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT WAS ON DISPLAY IS WHAT WE REALLY

ON DISPLAY IS WHAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO HAVE ALREADY KNOWN.

OUGHT TO HAVE ALREADY KNOWN. AS YOU POINTED OUT, LAWRENCE,

AS YOU POINTED OUT, LAWRENCE, THIS MAN IS ABOUT HIMSELF.

THIS MAN IS ABOUT HIMSELF. HE REALLY IS NOT ABOUT THE

HE REALLY IS NOT ABOUT THE COUNTRY.

COUNTRY. HE’S NOT ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.

HE’S NOT ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH. ALTHOUGH HE HAS ALREADY SEVERELY

ALTHOUGH HE HAS ALREADY SEVERELY DAMAGED THE COUNTRY BY BEING A

DAMAGED THE COUNTRY BY BEING A PSYCHOPATH OR SOCIOPATH, IN MANY

PSYCHOPATH OR SOCIOPATH, IN MANY WAYS HE’S DAMAGED DEMOCRACY.

WAYS HE’S DAMAGED DEMOCRACY. I THINK PEOPLE’S LIVES WILL BE

I THINK PEOPLE’S LIVES WILL BE LOST NOW.

LOST NOW. INDIVIDUAL LIVES WILL BE LOST

INDIVIDUAL LIVES WILL BE LOST BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE’S

BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE’S MISHANDLING THE CORONAVIRUS

MISHANDLING THE CORONAVIRUS ISSUE.

ISSUE. SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU POINTED

SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU POINTED OUT, HE LIES.

OUT, HE LIES. HE HAS CONTRADICTED HIS OWN

HE HAS CONTRADICTED HIS OWN HEALTH OFFICIALS.

HEALTH OFFICIALS. AND IN A VERY DANGEROUS MOVE,

AND IN A VERY DANGEROUS MOVE, HE’S APPARENTLY MUZZLED THEM SO

HE’S APPARENTLY MUZZLED THEM SO THAT THEY NOW CAN’T SPEAK OUT.

THAT THEY NOW CAN’T SPEAK OUT. IF YOU LISTENED IN THE

IF YOU LISTENED IN THE INTERVIEW, JUST LISTENING TO THE

INTERVIEW, JUST LISTENING TO THE WAY HE PRESENTED IT, I THINK

WAY HE PRESENTED IT, I THINK ABOUT A DOZEN TIMES HE SAID WHAT

ABOUT A DOZEN TIMES HE SAID WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB HE HAS DONE.

A WONDERFUL JOB HE HAS DONE. IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE ANY OTHER

IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN UNITED STATES

PRESIDENT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY, WHEN ADDRESSING THE

HISTORY, WHEN ADDRESSING THE COUNTRY DURING A PUBLIC HEALTH

COUNTRY DURING A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, TALKING ABOUT WHAT A

CRISIS, TALKING ABOUT WHAT A WONDERFUL JOB HE PERSONALLY HAS

WONDERFUL JOB HE PERSONALLY HAS DONE.

DONE. BUT THIS IS WHERE HE’S AT.

BUT THIS IS WHERE HE’S AT. THIS IS WHAT HE CARES ABOUT.

THIS IS WHAT HE CARES ABOUT. HE CARES ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET

HE CARES ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET ALSO BECAUSE IT REFLECTS ON HIM

ALSO BECAUSE IT REFLECTS ON HIM AND HIS CANDIDACY.

AND HIS CANDIDACY. BRINGING IN THE DEMOCRATIC

BRINGING IN THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT

DEBATE IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT AND ALSO INCORRECT BECAUSE THE

AND ALSO INCORRECT BECAUSE THE MARKET HAD FALLEN BEFORE THE

MARKET HAD FALLEN BEFORE THE DEBATE.

DEBATE. BUT, AGAIN, IT TELLS YOU WHERE

BUT, AGAIN, IT TELLS YOU WHERE HIS MIND IS AT.

HIS MIND IS AT. HIS MIND IS ON HIM.

HIS MIND IS ON HIM. AND WE’VE KNOWN THAT, AND THAT

AND WE’VE KNOWN THAT, AND THAT HE’S A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

HE’S A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. WE’VE KNOWN THAT.

WE’VE KNOWN THAT. IN A WAY, WHAT’S FASCINATING IN

IN A WAY, WHAT’S FASCINATING IN A TERRIBLE KIND OF WAY IS THAT

A TERRIBLE KIND OF WAY IS THAT EVERYONE DOESN’T GET THIS.

EVERYONE DOESN’T GET THIS. YOU KNOW, MOST OF AMERICA SEES

YOU KNOW, MOST OF AMERICA SEES HIM CONTRADICT THE PUBLIC HEALTH

HIM CONTRADICT THE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS AND SAY, THIS MAN MUST

OFFICIALS AND SAY, THIS MAN MUST BE INCOMPETENT.

BE INCOMPETENT. BUT WHAT HE DOES IS WHAT WAS

BUT WHAT HE DOES IS WHAT WAS MADE FAMOUS AS THE BIG LIE

MADE FAMOUS AS THE BIG LIE TECHNIQUE IN GERMANY, IS BY

TECHNIQUE IN GERMANY, IS BY REPEATING WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO

REPEATING WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN,

HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AGAINST THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE

AGAINST THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE IN OPPOSITION TO IT,

JUST MADE IN OPPOSITION TO IT, THE ACT OF REPEATING IT MAKES

THE ACT OF REPEATING IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK IT MUST BE TRUE.

PEOPLE THINK IT MUST BE TRUE. IT MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT

IT MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT THAT’S HOW IT WORKS.

THAT’S HOW IT WORKS. SO HE IS AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL

SO HE IS AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL CON MAN.

CON MAN. AS WE KNOW, HIS WHOLE LIFE IS

AS WE KNOW, HIS WHOLE LIFE IS ABOUT THAT.

ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THAT EXPLAINS WHY

SO I THINK THAT EXPLAINS WHY PEOPLE CAN WATCH THIS, WATCH HIM

PEOPLE CAN WATCH THIS, WATCH HIM DENY WHAT HIS OWN OFFICIALS JUST

DENY WHAT HIS OWN OFFICIALS JUST SAID, WATCH HIM LIE ABOUT

SAID, WATCH HIM LIE ABOUT THINGS, AND SAY HE MUST BE DOING

THINGS, AND SAY HE MUST BE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

THE RIGHT THING. HE MUST BE LOOKING AFTER US.

HE MUST BE LOOKING AFTER US. THAT’S WHY HE’S A SUCCESSFUL CON

THAT’S WHY HE’S A SUCCESSFUL CON MAN.

MAN. WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IF WE’RE ALL

WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IF WE’RE ALL GOING TO SURVIVE IS THAT THIS

GOING TO SURVIVE IS THAT THIS REACHES A TIPPING POINT.

REACHES A TIPPING POINT. EVENTUALLY THE FACT THAT THE

EVENTUALLY THE FACT THAT THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES IS

EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES IS REVEALED, AND THEN EVERYONE WILL

REVEALED, AND THEN EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT HE’S BEEN LYING

UNDERSTAND THAT HE’S BEEN LYING ALL ALONG.

ALL ALONG. WE HAVEN’T REACHED THAT YET

WE HAVEN’T REACHED THAT YET UNFORTUNATELY.

UNFORTUNATELY. >> THERE WAS A STRIKING MOMENT

>> THERE WAS A STRIKING MOMENT LAST NIGHT WHERE DR. FAUCI HAD

LAST NIGHT WHERE DR. FAUCI HAD TO KIND OF GRAB THE MICROPHONE

TO KIND OF GRAB THE MICROPHONE TO BASICALLY SAY THAT DONALD

TO BASICALLY SAY THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS WRONG WHEN HE JUST

TRUMP WAS WRONG WHEN HE JUST SAID WE WILL HAVE A VACCINE

SAID WE WILL HAVE A VACCINE RAPIDLY.

RAPIDLY. I JUST WANT TO SHOW SOME OF WHAT

I JUST WANT TO SHOW SOME OF WHAT DR. FAUCI SAID BECAUSE WHAT

DR. FAUCI SAID BECAUSE WHAT INTERESTS ME THIS TIME, SINCE WE

INTERESTS ME THIS TIME, SINCE WE ALL HEARD WHAT HE SAID, IS

ALL HEARD WHAT HE SAID, IS WATCHING DONALD TRUMP DOING

WATCHING DONALD TRUMP DOING WHATEVER IT IS HE’S DOING, BUT

WHATEVER IT IS HE’S DOING, BUT IT SURE DOESN’T LOOK LIKE

IT SURE DOESN’T LOOK LIKE LISTENING.

LISTENING. >> I TOLD YOU WE WOULD HAVE A

>> I TOLD YOU WE WOULD HAVE A VACCINE THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING

VACCINE THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING INTO TRIALS TO SEE IF IT’S SAFE

INTO TRIALS TO SEE IF IT’S SAFE AND IF IT INDUCES A RESPONSE

AND IF IT INDUCES A RESPONSE THAT YOU WOULD PREDICT WOULD BE

THAT YOU WOULD PREDICT WOULD BE PROTECTIVE IN ABOUT THREE

PROTECTIVE IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

MONTHS. I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A

I THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT.

LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT. IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE CLOSER

IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE CLOSER TO TWO MONTHS.

TO TWO MONTHS. THAT WOULD THEN TAKE ABOUT THREE

THAT WOULD THEN TAKE ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO DETERMINE IF IT’S SAFE

MONTHS TO DETERMINE IF IT’S SAFE AND IMMUNEIOGENIC, WHICH GIVES

AND IMMUNEIOGENIC, WHICH GIVES US SIX MONTHS.

US SIX MONTHS. THEN YOU GRADUATE FROM A TRIAL,

THEN YOU GRADUATE FROM A TRIAL, WHICH IS PHASE ONE OF 45 PEOPLE,

WHICH IS PHASE ONE OF 45 PEOPLE, TO A TRIAL THAT INVOLVES

TO A TRIAL THAT INVOLVES HUNDREDS, IF NOT LOW THOUSANDS

HUNDREDS, IF NOT LOW THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

OF PEOPLE. >> DR. FAUCI WENT ON FOR A

>> DR. FAUCI WENT ON FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES THERE, AND AS

COUPLE OF MINUTES THERE, AND AS I WAS WATCHING DONALD TRUMP, MY

I WAS WATCHING DONALD TRUMP, MY GUESS WAS HE WASN’T

GUESS WAS HE WASN’T COMPREHENDING A WORD.

COMPREHENDING A WORD. >> I THINK HE DIDN’T CARE.

>> I THINK HE DIDN’T CARE. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. >> I THINK HE HEARS WHAT -- HE

>> I THINK HE HEARS WHAT -- HE HEARS WHAT’S IN HIS HEAD, AND

HEARS WHAT’S IN HIS HEAD, AND THE REST DOESN’T MATTER.

THE REST DOESN’T MATTER. TO YOUR ORIGINAL POINT,

TO YOUR ORIGINAL POINT, LAWRENCE, YES, HE’S GETTING

LAWRENCE, YES, HE’S GETTING WORSE.

WORSE. THE MORE THINGS GO BADLY FOR

THE MORE THINGS GO BADLY FOR HIM, THE MORE PARANOID HE