WITH US AT THE TABLE FORMER FBI ANDREW WEISSMANN.

ANDREW WEISSMANN. THIS SEEMS TO REPRESENT A FIRST

THIS SEEMS TO REPRESENT A FIRST CHAPTER -- AND I WAS PART OF THE

CHAPTER -- AND I WAS PART OF THE PLANNING FOR THE BIRD FLU.

PLANNING FOR THE BIRD FLU. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE IN THE

I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PREPARE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL

FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND JUST TO MAKE SURE

PANDEMIC AND JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR VIEWERS ARE NOT MORE SCARED

OUR VIEWERS ARE NOT MORE SCARED THAN THEY NEED TO BE, THAT HAS

THAN THEY NEED TO BE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED.

NOT BEEN DECLARED. THE CONCERN IS WE’RE ON THE

THE CONCERN IS WE’RE ON THE BRINK OF ONE.

BRINK OF ONE. BUT THE PRESIDENT SEEMING TO SAY

BUT THE PRESIDENT SEEMING TO SAY WE GOT THIS AND THE ECONOMIC

WE GOT THIS AND THE ECONOMIC TEAM SAYING IT IS ALL FINE.

TEAM SAYING IT IS ALL FINE. THAT IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE

THAT IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE MESSAGES COMING FROM THE WORLD’S

MESSAGES COMING FROM THE WORLD’S HEALTH LEADERS.

HEALTH LEADERS. >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. NOT JUST FROM THE GLOBAL HEALTH

NOT JUST FROM THE GLOBAL HEALTH LEADERS, BUT FROM THE CDC THAT

LEADERS, BUT FROM THE CDC THAT BASICALLY WARNED TODAY THAT IT

BASICALLY WARNED TODAY THAT IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF, BUT

IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF, BUT WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS COMES TO

WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS COMES TO THE UNITED STATES.

THE UNITED STATES. SO WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS THIS

SO WHAT YOU’RE SEEING IS THIS VERY DISCONCERTING SPLIT SCREEN

VERY DISCONCERTING SPLIT SCREEN WHERE YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND

WHERE YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND SOME OF HIS TOP ADVISERS SAYING

SOME OF HIS TOP ADVISERS SAYING IT IS ALL UNDER CONTROL.

IT IS ALL UNDER CONTROL. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE. AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE

AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE ALSO AFFILIATED WITH THE

ALSO AFFILIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE NEED TO

ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE NEED TO BE PREPARED.

BE PREPARED. WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE

WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE ALARMED.

ALARMED. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ALL UNDER

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ALL UNDER CONTROL.

CONTROL. WE’RE WORKING TO GET IT UNDER

WE’RE WORKING TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.

CONTROL. AND THERE IS VERY GOOD REPORTING

AND THERE IS VERY GOOD REPORTING IN THE POST AND ELSEWHERE OF

IN THE POST AND ELSEWHERE OF THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE

THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE WRONG FROM TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN

WRONG FROM TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN FAULTY TO TESTING NOT BEING AS

FAULTY TO TESTING NOT BEING AS WIDESPREAD IN THE UNITED STATES

WIDESPREAD IN THE UNITED STATES AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF BEING

TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF BEING FURIOUS ABOUT SOME PASSENGERS

FURIOUS ABOUT SOME PASSENGERS WHO WERE QUARANTINED ON THE

WHO WERE QUARANTINED ON THE JAPANESE CRUISE SHIP FLYING BACK

JAPANESE CRUISE SHIP FLYING BACK WITH HEALTHY AMERICANS.

WITH HEALTHY AMERICANS. AND SO IT IS NOT THE SORT OF

AND SO IT IS NOT THE SORT OF PERFECTLY STREAMLINED MACHINE

PERFECTLY STREAMLINED MACHINE THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS

THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS EVERYONE TO BELIEVE.

EVERYONE TO BELIEVE. I’M NOT SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE

I’M NOT SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE DEEPLY ALARMED AND PANICKED YET.

DEEPLY ALARMED AND PANICKED YET. BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THERE

BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS A DISASSOCIATION BETWEEN WHAT

IS A DISASSOCIATION BETWEEN WHAT WE’RE HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT

WE’RE HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT AT THE TOP AND OTHER PEOPLE MORE

AT THE TOP AND OTHER PEOPLE MORE ACUTELY INVOLVED IN THE DETAILS

ACUTELY INVOLVED IN THE DETAILS OF THIS PROCESS.

OF THIS PROCESS. >> TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION

>> TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF SOMETHING THE POSTHAS BEEN

OF SOMETHING THE POSTHAS BEEN COVERING AND IT SAID AXIOS AND

COVERING AND IT SAID AXIOS AND THAT IS THE PRESIDENT’S

THAT IS THE PRESIDENT’S OBSESSION OF POST IMPEACHMENT

OBSESSION OF POST IMPEACHMENT PURGE AIDED BY HIT LISTS COMING

PURGE AIDED BY HIT LISTS COMING FROM THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT

FROM THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AND SOME OF THE

JUSTICE AND SOME OF THE REPORTING, I’LL READ SOMETHING

REPORTING, I’LL READ SOMETHING FROM FOREIGN POLICY MAGAZINE

FROM FOREIGN POLICY MAGAZINE ABOUT THE SECURITY OFFICIALS

ABOUT THE SECURITY OFFICIALS OUSTED.

OUSTED. IN MAY 2018, TRUMP ORDERED THE

IN MAY 2018, TRUMP ORDERED THE NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY

NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL ENTIRE GLOBAL HEALTH

COUNCIL ENTIRE GLOBAL HEALTH SECURITY UNIT SHUT DOWN.

SECURITY UNIT SHUT DOWN. CALLING FOR REASSIGNMENT OF REAR

CALLING FOR REASSIGNMENT OF REAR ADMIRAL TIMOTHY DISCIPLER.

ADMIRAL TIMOTHY DISCIPLER. THE MONTH BEFORE JOHN BOLTON

THE MONTH BEFORE JOHN BOLTON PRESSURED TOM BOSSERT TO RESIGN.

PRESSURED TOM BOSSERT TO RESIGN. ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE TEAM.

ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE TEAM. ANOTHER THE NSC OR THE

ANOTHER THE NSC OR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY TEAMS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

TEAMS HAVE BEEN REPLACED. THE GLOBAL HEALTH SECTION OF THE

THE GLOBAL HEALTH SECTION OF THE CDC WAS DRASTICALLY CUT IN 2018

CDC WAS DRASTICALLY CUT IN 2018 THAT MUCH OF THE STAFF WAS LAID

THAT MUCH OF THE STAFF WAS LAID OFF AND THE NUMBER THE COUNTRIES

OFF AND THE NUMBER THE COUNTRIES WAS WORKING WAS REDUCED FROM 49

WAS WORKING WAS REDUCED FROM 49 TO 10.

TO 10. MEANWHILE THROUGH 2018 THE U.S.

MEANWHILE THROUGH 2018 THE U.S. AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL

AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DIRECTOR

DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DIRECTOR MARK GREEN CAME UNDER FIRE FROM

MARK GREEN CAME UNDER FIRE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE

THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO.

SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO. ALTHOUGH CONGRESS HAS SO FAR

ALTHOUGH CONGRESS HAS SO FAR MANAGED TO BLOCK THE PLANS TO

MANAGED TO BLOCK THE PLANS TO CUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE

CUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE COMMISSION CORE BY 40%, THE

COMMISSION CORE BY 40%, THE DISEASE FIGHTING HAVE ERODED AS

DISEASE FIGHTING HAVE ERODED AS OFFICERS GO UNREPLATED.

OFFICERS GO UNREPLATED. THERE IS A DOCUMENTED EFFORT ON

THERE IS A DOCUMENTED EFFORT ON DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS TO PURGE

DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS TO PURGE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO DECAPITATE ALL OF THE LEADERS OF

DECAPITATE ALL OF THE LEADERS OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES.

OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

>> THAT IS RIGHT. I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO SEPARATE.

I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO SEPARATE. THERE HAS BEEN AS WE READ TODAY

THERE HAS BEEN AS WE READ TODAY A HOLLOWING OUT OF THE

A HOLLOWING OUT OF THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IN THE

SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SINCE HE

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE.

TOOK OFFICE. SEPARATE THIS FROM THE OTHER

SEPARATE THIS FROM THE OTHER PURGE WE’RE SEEING POST

PURGE WE’RE SEEING POST IMPEACHMENT WHICH IS VERY MUCH

IMPEACHMENT WHICH IS VERY MUCH ABOUT INSTALLING LOYALISTS,

ABOUT INSTALLING LOYALISTS, PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED

PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.

AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. BUT IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACTS

BUT IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACTS ON THE GROUND WHEN THERE IS

ON THE GROUND WHEN THERE IS POTENTIALLY THIS GLOBAL PANDEMIC

POTENTIALLY THIS GLOBAL PANDEMIC THE PRESIDENT AT SOME POINT WILL

THE PRESIDENT AT SOME POINT WILL HAVE TO TURN TO THESE AGENCIES

HAVE TO TURN TO THESE AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT AS ROBUSTLY STAFFED

THAT ARE NOT AS ROBUSTLY STAFFED AS YOU WOULD NECESSARILY WANT

AS YOU WOULD NECESSARILY WANT THEM TO BE.

THEM TO BE. THAT IS JUST A REALITY.

THAT IS JUST A REALITY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE’S

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE’S GRAPPLING WITH AND IT IS JUST

GRAPPLING WITH AND IT IS JUST THE FACTSOND GROUND.

THE FACTSOND GROUND. AND I WOULD I WOULD ADD ONE

AND I WOULD I WOULD ADD ONE FINAL POINT.

FINAL POINT. YOU KNOW FROM THE BUSH

YOU KNOW FROM THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THERE ARE

ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THERE ARE HUGE CRISES OUT OF OUR CONTROL

HUGE CRISES OUT OF OUR CONTROL AND WE REPORT SELF-SABOTAGING

AND WE REPORT SELF-SABOTAGING AND THIS IS OUT OF HIS CONTROL

AND THIS IS OUT OF HIS CONTROL AND IF YOU REMEMBER PRESIDENT

AND IF YOU REMEMBER PRESIDENT BUSH WITH HURRICANE KATRINA AND

BUSH WITH HURRICANE KATRINA AND HOW TOUGH IT WAS TO RECOVER FROM

HOW TOUGH IT WAS TO RECOVER FROM BUNGLING THAT RESPONSE.

BUNGLING THAT RESPONSE. THAT IS A POTENTIAL RISK THAT

THAT IS A POTENTIAL RISK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES NOW.

PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES NOW. >> I WILL NEVER FOR GOT THAT.

>> I WILL NEVER FOR GOT THAT. ANDREW WEISSMANN, I THINK THE

ANDREW WEISSMANN, I THINK THE INTERSECTIONALITY, THE RESPONSE

INTERSECTIONALITY, THE RESPONSE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE

AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOREIGN POLICY

RESPONSIBLE FOR FOREIGN POLICY WERE THE NATIONAL SECURITY

WERE THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER AND THE HOMELAND

ADVISER AND THE HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISER CONDI RICE AND

SECURITY ADVISER CONDI RICE AND FRANKTOWN SEND AND THEY WERE IN

FRANKTOWN SEND AND THEY WERE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE PRACTICED FOR

THE ROOM WHEN WE PRACTICED FOR THE BIRD FLU OUTBREAK.

THE BIRD FLU OUTBREAK. BY DECIMATING EVERY 12 WEEKS

BY DECIMATING EVERY 12 WEEKS YOU’RE DECIMATING ANY MUSCLE

YOU’RE DECIMATING ANY MUSCLE MEMORY OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO

MEMORY OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH A GLOBAL CRISIS.

DEAL WITH A GLOBAL CRISIS. >> SO ONE OF THE ODDITIES THAT

>> SO ONE OF THE ODDITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT

YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT IS HE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME

IS HE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME DENIGRATING ALL OF THESE

DENIGRATING ALL OF THESE AGENCIES, WHETHER THIS IS THE

AGENCIES, WHETHER THIS IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN

INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT YOU NEED

WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT YOU NEED TO RELY ON THEM, BECAUSE YOU

TO RELY ON THEM, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GO AFTER AN IMPORTANT

WANT TO GO AFTER AN IMPORTANT ISIS LEADER, SUDDENLY THEY’RE

ISIS LEADER, SUDDENLY THEY’RE ACCURATE AND GOOD.

ACCURATE AND GOOD. BUT HERE HE’S GOING TO HAVE THE

BUT HERE HE’S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AFTER CHALLENGING ALL

SAME ISSUE AFTER CHALLENGING ALL SORTS EVER AGENCIES AND SAYING

SORTS EVER AGENCIES AND SAYING THEIR INCOMPETENT.

THEIR INCOMPETENT. THE CDC IS REALLY GOING TO NEED

THE CDC IS REALLY GOING TO NEED TO STEP UP AND HE’S GOING TO BE

TO STEP UP AND HE’S GOING TO BE RELYING ON THEM AND THIS IS THE

RELYING ON THEM AND THIS IS THE AGENCY AND MANY OTHER AGENCIES

AGENCY AND MANY OTHER AGENCIES THAT HE SAID DON’T TRUST.

THAT HE SAID DON’T TRUST. AND SO THE SORT OF LACK OF

AND SO THE SORT OF LACK OF COMPETENCE THAT YOU SORT OF --

COMPETENCE THAT YOU SORT OF -- PROJECTED IS SOMETHING THAT I

PROJECTED IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE

THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE REALLY SEEING, IS HE ABLE TO

REALLY SEEING, IS HE ABLE TO CARRY THROUGHMENT