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  • REPORTER ASHLEY PARKER. WITH US AT THE TABLE FORMER FBI

  • WITH US AT THE TABLE FORMER FBI ANDREW WEISSMANN.

  • ANDREW WEISSMANN. THIS SEEMS TO REPRESENT A FIRST

  • THIS SEEMS TO REPRESENT A FIRST CHAPTER -- AND I WAS PART OF THE

  • CHAPTER -- AND I WAS PART OF THE PLANNING FOR THE BIRD FLU.

  • PLANNING FOR THE BIRD FLU. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE IN THE

  • I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PREPARE

  • FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL

  • FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND JUST TO MAKE SURE

  • PANDEMIC AND JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR VIEWERS ARE NOT MORE SCARED

  • OUR VIEWERS ARE NOT MORE SCARED THAN THEY NEED TO BE, THAT HAS

  • THAN THEY NEED TO BE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN DECLARED.

  • NOT BEEN DECLARED. THE CONCERN IS WERE ON THE

  • THE CONCERN IS WERE ON THE BRINK OF ONE.

  • BRINK OF ONE. BUT THE PRESIDENT SEEMING TO SAY

  • BUT THE PRESIDENT SEEMING TO SAY WE GOT THIS AND THE ECONOMIC

  • WE GOT THIS AND THE ECONOMIC TEAM SAYING IT IS ALL FINE.

  • TEAM SAYING IT IS ALL FINE. THAT IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE

  • THAT IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH THE MESSAGES COMING FROM THE WORLD’S

  • MESSAGES COMING FROM THE WORLD’S HEALTH LEADERS.

  • HEALTH LEADERS. >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

  • >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. NOT JUST FROM THE GLOBAL HEALTH

  • NOT JUST FROM THE GLOBAL HEALTH LEADERS, BUT FROM THE CDC THAT

  • LEADERS, BUT FROM THE CDC THAT BASICALLY WARNED TODAY THAT IT

  • BASICALLY WARNED TODAY THAT IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF, BUT

  • IS NOT A QUESTION OF IF, BUT WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS COMES TO

  • WHEN THE CORONAVIRUS COMES TO THE UNITED STATES.

  • THE UNITED STATES. SO WHAT YOURE SEEING IS THIS

  • SO WHAT YOURE SEEING IS THIS VERY DISCONCERTING SPLIT SCREEN

  • VERY DISCONCERTING SPLIT SCREEN WHERE YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND

  • WHERE YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND SOME OF HIS TOP ADVISERS SAYING

  • SOME OF HIS TOP ADVISERS SAYING IT IS ALL UNDER CONTROL.

  • IT IS ALL UNDER CONTROL. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

  • NOTHING TO SEE HERE. AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE

  • AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE ALSO AFFILIATED WITH THE

  • ALSO AFFILIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE NEED TO

  • ADMINISTRATION SAYING WE NEED TO BE PREPARED.

  • BE PREPARED. WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE

  • WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO BE ALARMED.

  • ALARMED. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ALL UNDER

  • IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ALL UNDER CONTROL.

  • CONTROL. WERE WORKING TO GET IT UNDER

  • WERE WORKING TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.

  • CONTROL. AND THERE IS VERY GOOD REPORTING

  • AND THERE IS VERY GOOD REPORTING IN THE POST AND ELSEWHERE OF

  • IN THE POST AND ELSEWHERE OF THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE

  • THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE WRONG FROM TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN

  • WRONG FROM TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN FAULTY TO TESTING NOT BEING AS

  • FAULTY TO TESTING NOT BEING AS WIDESPREAD IN THE UNITED STATES

  • WIDESPREAD IN THE UNITED STATES AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE

  • AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF BEING

  • TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF BEING FURIOUS ABOUT SOME PASSENGERS

  • FURIOUS ABOUT SOME PASSENGERS WHO WERE QUARANTINED ON THE

  • WHO WERE QUARANTINED ON THE JAPANESE CRUISE SHIP FLYING BACK

  • JAPANESE CRUISE SHIP FLYING BACK WITH HEALTHY AMERICANS.

  • WITH HEALTHY AMERICANS. AND SO IT IS NOT THE SORT OF

  • AND SO IT IS NOT THE SORT OF PERFECTLY STREAMLINED MACHINE

  • PERFECTLY STREAMLINED MACHINE THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS

  • THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS EVERYONE TO BELIEVE.

  • EVERYONE TO BELIEVE. I’M NOT SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE

  • I’M NOT SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE DEEPLY ALARMED AND PANICKED YET.

  • DEEPLY ALARMED AND PANICKED YET. BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THERE

  • BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS A DISASSOCIATION BETWEEN WHAT

  • IS A DISASSOCIATION BETWEEN WHAT WERE HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT

  • WERE HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT AT THE TOP AND OTHER PEOPLE MORE

  • AT THE TOP AND OTHER PEOPLE MORE ACUTELY INVOLVED IN THE DETAILS

  • ACUTELY INVOLVED IN THE DETAILS OF THIS PROCESS.

  • OF THIS PROCESS. >> TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION

  • >> TALK ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF SOMETHING THE POSTHAS BEEN

  • OF SOMETHING THE POSTHAS BEEN COVERING AND IT SAID AXIOS AND

  • COVERING AND IT SAID AXIOS AND THAT IS THE PRESIDENT’S

  • THAT IS THE PRESIDENT’S OBSESSION OF POST IMPEACHMENT

  • OBSESSION OF POST IMPEACHMENT PURGE AIDED BY HIT LISTS COMING

  • PURGE AIDED BY HIT LISTS COMING FROM THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT

  • FROM THE WIFE OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AND SOME OF THE

  • JUSTICE AND SOME OF THE REPORTING, I’LL READ SOMETHING

  • REPORTING, I’LL READ SOMETHING FROM FOREIGN POLICY MAGAZINE

  • FROM FOREIGN POLICY MAGAZINE ABOUT THE SECURITY OFFICIALS

  • ABOUT THE SECURITY OFFICIALS OUSTED.

  • OUSTED. IN MAY 2018, TRUMP ORDERED THE

  • IN MAY 2018, TRUMP ORDERED THE NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL ENTIRE GLOBAL HEALTH

  • COUNCIL ENTIRE GLOBAL HEALTH SECURITY UNIT SHUT DOWN.

  • SECURITY UNIT SHUT DOWN. CALLING FOR REASSIGNMENT OF REAR

  • CALLING FOR REASSIGNMENT OF REAR ADMIRAL TIMOTHY DISCIPLER.

  • ADMIRAL TIMOTHY DISCIPLER. THE MONTH BEFORE JOHN BOLTON

  • THE MONTH BEFORE JOHN BOLTON PRESSURED TOM BOSSERT TO RESIGN.

  • PRESSURED TOM BOSSERT TO RESIGN. ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE TEAM.

  • ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE TEAM. ANOTHER THE NSC OR THE

  • ANOTHER THE NSC OR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

  • DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY TEAMS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

  • TEAMS HAVE BEEN REPLACED. THE GLOBAL HEALTH SECTION OF THE

  • THE GLOBAL HEALTH SECTION OF THE CDC WAS DRASTICALLY CUT IN 2018

  • CDC WAS DRASTICALLY CUT IN 2018 THAT MUCH OF THE STAFF WAS LAID

  • THAT MUCH OF THE STAFF WAS LAID OFF AND THE NUMBER THE COUNTRIES

  • OFF AND THE NUMBER THE COUNTRIES WAS WORKING WAS REDUCED FROM 49

  • WAS WORKING WAS REDUCED FROM 49 TO 10.

  • TO 10. MEANWHILE THROUGH 2018 THE U.S.

  • MEANWHILE THROUGH 2018 THE U.S. AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL

  • AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DIRECTOR

  • DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DIRECTOR MARK GREEN CAME UNDER FIRE FROM

  • MARK GREEN CAME UNDER FIRE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE

  • THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO.

  • SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO. ALTHOUGH CONGRESS HAS SO FAR

  • ALTHOUGH CONGRESS HAS SO FAR MANAGED TO BLOCK THE PLANS TO

  • MANAGED TO BLOCK THE PLANS TO CUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE

  • CUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE COMMISSION CORE BY 40%, THE

  • COMMISSION CORE BY 40%, THE DISEASE FIGHTING HAVE ERODED AS

  • DISEASE FIGHTING HAVE ERODED AS OFFICERS GO UNREPLATED.

  • OFFICERS GO UNREPLATED. THERE IS A DOCUMENTED EFFORT ON

  • THERE IS A DOCUMENTED EFFORT ON DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS TO PURGE

  • DONALD TRUMP AND OTHERS TO PURGE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO

  • THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO DECAPITATE ALL OF THE LEADERS OF

  • DECAPITATE ALL OF THE LEADERS OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES.

  • OUR PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES. >> THAT IS RIGHT.

  • >> THAT IS RIGHT. I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO SEPARATE.

  • I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO SEPARATE. THERE HAS BEEN AS WE READ TODAY

  • THERE HAS BEEN AS WE READ TODAY A HOLLOWING OUT OF THE

  • A HOLLOWING OUT OF THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IN THE

  • SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SINCE HE

  • TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE.

  • TOOK OFFICE. SEPARATE THIS FROM THE OTHER

  • SEPARATE THIS FROM THE OTHER PURGE WERE SEEING POST

  • PURGE WERE SEEING POST IMPEACHMENT WHICH IS VERY MUCH

  • IMPEACHMENT WHICH IS VERY MUCH ABOUT INSTALLING LOYALISTS,

  • ABOUT INSTALLING LOYALISTS, PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED

  • PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.

  • AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. BUT IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACTS

  • BUT IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACTS ON THE GROUND WHEN THERE IS

  • ON THE GROUND WHEN THERE IS POTENTIALLY THIS GLOBAL PANDEMIC

  • POTENTIALLY THIS GLOBAL PANDEMIC THE PRESIDENT AT SOME POINT WILL

  • THE PRESIDENT AT SOME POINT WILL HAVE TO TURN TO THESE AGENCIES

  • HAVE TO TURN TO THESE AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT AS ROBUSTLY STAFFED

  • THAT ARE NOT AS ROBUSTLY STAFFED AS YOU WOULD NECESSARILY WANT

  • AS YOU WOULD NECESSARILY WANT THEM TO BE.

  • THEM TO BE. THAT IS JUST A REALITY.

  • THAT IS JUST A REALITY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE’S

  • THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE’S GRAPPLING WITH AND IT IS JUST

  • GRAPPLING WITH AND IT IS JUST THE FACTSOND GROUND.

  • THE FACTSOND GROUND. AND I WOULD I WOULD ADD ONE

  • AND I WOULD I WOULD ADD ONE FINAL POINT.

  • FINAL POINT. YOU KNOW FROM THE BUSH

  • YOU KNOW FROM THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THERE ARE

  • ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THERE ARE HUGE CRISES OUT OF OUR CONTROL

  • HUGE CRISES OUT OF OUR CONTROL AND WE REPORT SELF-SABOTAGING

  • AND WE REPORT SELF-SABOTAGING AND THIS IS OUT OF HIS CONTROL

  • AND THIS IS OUT OF HIS CONTROL AND IF YOU REMEMBER PRESIDENT

  • AND IF YOU REMEMBER PRESIDENT BUSH WITH HURRICANE KATRINA AND

  • BUSH WITH HURRICANE KATRINA AND HOW TOUGH IT WAS TO RECOVER FROM

  • HOW TOUGH IT WAS TO RECOVER FROM BUNGLING THAT RESPONSE.

  • BUNGLING THAT RESPONSE. THAT IS A POTENTIAL RISK THAT

  • THAT IS A POTENTIAL RISK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES NOW.

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES NOW. >> I WILL NEVER FOR GOT THAT.

  • >> I WILL NEVER FOR GOT THAT. ANDREW WEISSMANN, I THINK THE

  • ANDREW WEISSMANN, I THINK THE INTERSECTIONALITY, THE RESPONSE

  • INTERSECTIONALITY, THE RESPONSE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE

  • AND THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOREIGN POLICY

  • RESPONSIBLE FOR FOREIGN POLICY WERE THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • WERE THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER AND THE HOMELAND

  • ADVISER AND THE HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISER CONDI RICE AND

  • SECURITY ADVISER CONDI RICE AND FRANKTOWN SEND AND THEY WERE IN

  • FRANKTOWN SEND AND THEY WERE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE PRACTICED FOR

  • THE ROOM WHEN WE PRACTICED FOR THE BIRD FLU OUTBREAK.

  • THE BIRD FLU OUTBREAK. BY DECIMATING EVERY 12 WEEKS

  • BY DECIMATING EVERY 12 WEEKS YOURE DECIMATING ANY MUSCLE

  • YOURE DECIMATING ANY MUSCLE MEMORY OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO

  • MEMORY OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH A GLOBAL CRISIS.

  • DEAL WITH A GLOBAL CRISIS. >> SO ONE OF THE ODDITIES THAT

  • >> SO ONE OF THE ODDITIES THAT YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT

  • YOU HAVE HERE WITH THE PRESIDENT IS HE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME

  • IS HE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME DENIGRATING ALL OF THESE

  • DENIGRATING ALL OF THESE AGENCIES, WHETHER THIS IS THE

  • AGENCIES, WHETHER THIS IS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT YOU NEED

  • WHEN IT COMES TIME THAT YOU NEED TO RELY ON THEM, BECAUSE YOU

  • TO RELY ON THEM, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GO AFTER AN IMPORTANT

  • WANT TO GO AFTER AN IMPORTANT ISIS LEADER, SUDDENLY THEYRE

  • ISIS LEADER, SUDDENLY THEYRE ACCURATE AND GOOD.

  • ACCURATE AND GOOD. BUT HERE HE’S GOING TO HAVE THE

  • BUT HERE HE’S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AFTER CHALLENGING ALL

  • SAME ISSUE AFTER CHALLENGING ALL SORTS EVER AGENCIES AND SAYING

  • SORTS EVER AGENCIES AND SAYING THEIR INCOMPETENT.

  • THEIR INCOMPETENT. THE CDC IS REALLY GOING TO NEED

  • THE CDC IS REALLY GOING TO NEED TO STEP UP AND HE’S GOING TO BE

  • TO STEP UP AND HE’S GOING TO BE RELYING ON THEM AND THIS IS THE

  • RELYING ON THEM AND THIS IS THE AGENCY AND MANY OTHER AGENCIES

  • AGENCY AND MANY OTHER AGENCIES THAT HE SAID DON’T TRUST.

  • THAT HE SAID DON’T TRUST. AND SO THE SORT OF LACK OF

  • AND SO THE SORT OF LACK OF COMPETENCE THAT YOU SORT OF --

  • COMPETENCE THAT YOU SORT OF -- PROJECTED IS SOMETHING THAT I

  • PROJECTED IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE

  • THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE REALLY SEEING, IS HE ABLE TO

  • REALLY SEEING, IS HE ABLE TO CARRY THROUGHMENT

REPORTER ASHLEY PARKER. WITH US AT THE TABLE FORMER FBI

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