ABOUT THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WATCH US EVERY NIGHT, PEOPLE WHO

WATCH US EVERY NIGHT, PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED, ZEALOUS

ARE VERY INTERESTED, ZEALOUS PEOPLE WITH STRONG VIEWS WHO

PEOPLE WITH STRONG VIEWS WHO STICK TO THEIR CANDIDATE.

STICK TO THEIR CANDIDATE. LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED OUT

LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED OUT TONIGHT SAID I DON’T WANT TO

TONIGHT SAID I DON’T WANT TO VOTE SECOND.

VOTE SECOND. I WANT TO VOTE FIRST FOR MY GUY

I WANT TO VOTE FIRST FOR MY GUY OR WOMAN AND I’M LEAVING.

OR WOMAN AND I’M LEAVING. I THINK PEOPLE HAVE STRONG VIEWS

I THINK PEOPLE HAVE STRONG VIEWS THERE IS AN ARGUMENT FOR THAT.

THERE IS AN ARGUMENT FOR THAT. THERE IS ALSO AN ARGUMENT --

THERE IS ALSO AN ARGUMENT -- WHEN I WROTE FOR THE PAPER IN

WHEN I WROTE FOR THE PAPER IN SAN FRANCISCO, I WANTED TO HAVE

SAN FRANCISCO, I WANTED TO HAVE A ROSE BOWL PRIMARY EARLY

A ROSE BOWL PRIMARY EARLY JANUARY BEFORE THESE CAUCUSES.

JANUARY BEFORE THESE CAUCUSES. A HUGE STATE, GREAT DIVERSITY,

A HUGE STATE, GREAT DIVERSITY, GREAT WEATHER, A GREAT PLACE TO

GREAT WEATHER, A GREAT PLACE TO GO COVER A CAMPAIGN FOR A MONTH

GO COVER A CAMPAIGN FOR A MONTH OR SO.

OR SO. LIVE OUT THERE FOR A MONTH,

LIVE OUT THERE FOR A MONTH, REALLY GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE,

REALLY GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE, GET THE PEOPLE IN A BIG STATE

GET THE PEOPLE IN A BIG STATE WITH A LOT OF SUNSHINE AND A LOT

WITH A LOT OF SUNSHINE AND A LOT OF POSITIVE FEELING, A LOT OF

OF POSITIVE FEELING, A LOT OF HISPANIC PEOPLE, A LOT OF

HISPANIC PEOPLE, A LOT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND LET THEM

AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND LET THEM ALL PICK A BIG WINNER AND GET

ALL PICK A BIG WINNER AND GET STARTED FAST INSTEAD OF SCREWING

STARTED FAST INSTEAD OF SCREWING AROUND WITH THESE LITTLE STATES

AROUND WITH THESE LITTLE STATES FOR WEEKS AT A TIME.

FOR WEEKS AT A TIME. I MEAN, THREE IN A ROW, WE DON’T

I MEAN, THREE IN A ROW, WE DON’T GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED UNTIL

GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED UNTIL WE GET TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE GET TO SOUTH CAROLINA. 25% OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS ARE

25% OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND THEY’RE

AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND THEY’RE NOT REALLY IN THE GAME.

NOT REALLY IN THE GAME. I MEAN, THAT’S REALLY AWFUL.

I MEAN, THAT’S REALLY AWFUL. YOU TALK ABOUT VOTER

YOU TALK ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION, THIS IT .

SUPPRESSION, THIS IT . JASON IS RIGHT.

JASON IS RIGHT. IT’S VOTER SUPPRESSION.

IT’S VOTER SUPPRESSION. YOU’RE SAYING BLACK PEOPLE VOTE

YOU’RE SAYING BLACK PEOPLE VOTE LAST.

LAST. IT’S WRONG AND WE DO IT EVERY

IT’S WRONG AND WE DO IT EVERY YEAR, AND EVERYBODY SAYS WELL,

YEAR, AND EVERYBODY SAYS WELL, THEY LIKE IT IN IOWA.

THEY LIKE IT IN IOWA. OF COURSE THEY LIKE IT IN IOWA.

OF COURSE THEY LIKE IT IN IOWA. IT’S HERE.

IT’S HERE. OF COURSE THEY LIKE IT.

OF COURSE THEY LIKE IT. BUT THE REASON THE REASON THEY

BUT THE REASON THE REASON THEY STICK, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF NEW

STICK, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF NEW ENGLAND TRADITION OF STANDING

ENGLAND TRADITION OF STANDING UP, AND I LOVE THE IDEA, OF

UP, AND I LOVE THE IDEA, OF STANDING UP IN A MEETING

STANDING UP IN A MEETING PUBLICLY, BUT I THINK IF THEY GO

PUBLICLY, BUT I THINK IF THEY GO TOO MUCH TO A PRIMARY HERE AND

TOO MUCH TO A PRIMARY HERE AND IT BEGINS TO LOOK LIKE EVERY

IT BEGINS TO LOOK LIKE EVERY VOTE COUNTS SIMPLY, YOU GO IN,

VOTE COUNTS SIMPLY, YOU GO IN, YOU VOTE AND LEAVE, THEN THEY

YOU VOTE AND LEAVE, THEN THEY ARE AFRAID THEY WON’T GET FIRST

ARE AFRAID THEY WON’T GET FIRST ANYMORE.

ANYMORE. AND NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE FIRST

AND NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE FIRST PRIMARY.

PRIMARY. SO HOW WOULD THEY HAVE THE RIGHT

SO HOW WOULD THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO THAT?

TO THAT? MICHAEL KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THIS

MICHAEL KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THIS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. WE’VE GOT TO GET TOM PEREZ IN

WE’VE GOT TO GET TOM PEREZ IN HERE AND BEAT HIM UP A LITTLE

HERE AND BEAT HIM UP A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE HIM TELL US WHY DO

BIT AND MAKE HIM TELL US WHY DO YOU STILL START IN IOWA?

YOU STILL START IN IOWA? BECAUSE IT’S A STRANGE DECISION.

BECAUSE IT’S A STRANGE DECISION. IT JUST IS.

IT JUST IS. SORRY I’M HERE.

SORRY I’M HERE. AND IT’S COLD.

AND IT’S COLD. >> IN TALKING TO TOM AND TALKING

>> IN TALKING TO TOM AND TALKING TO OTHER DEMOCRATS, THERE IS

TO OTHER DEMOCRATS, THERE IS SOME SUSPICION THAT BETWEEN NOW

SOME SUSPICION THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE 2024 CYCLE THAT THE

AND THE 2024 CYCLE THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO RELOOK AT

DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO RELOOK AT THIS PROCESS.

THIS PROCESS. A NUMBER OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE

A NUMBER OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED THEIR

ALREADY EXPRESSED THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH THIS,

FRUSTRATION WITH THIS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO FELT THAT

PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO FELT THAT ALL THE ENCHILADAS WERE PLACED

ALL THE ENCHILADAS WERE PLACED ON THE TABLE AND YOU HAD TO BE

ON THE TABLE AND YOU HAD TO BE THERE FOR IOWA.

THERE FOR IOWA. WELL, MY PLAN IS DIFFERENT.

WELL, MY PLAN IS DIFFERENT. I HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY.

I HAVE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY. TO CHRIS’ POINT, IF I’M TRYING

TO CHRIS’ POINT, IF I’M TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS ON AFRICAN

TO REALLY FOCUS ON AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS, I’M NOT GOING

AMERICAN VOTERS, I’M NOT GOING TO DO THAT IN IOWA.

TO DO THAT IN IOWA. I’M GOING SPEND MY TIME IN SOUTH

I’M GOING SPEND MY TIME IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

CAROLINA. I’M GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT

I’M GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN NEVADA.

OF TIME IN NEVADA. SO FOR ME, ALL THIS BEGGARS A

SO FOR ME, ALL THIS BEGGARS A NATIONAL PRIMARY.

NATIONAL PRIMARY. AND TO SET THIS THING IN A WAY

AND TO SET THIS THING IN A WAY THAT WE GET THE CANDIDATES TO

THAT WE GET THE CANDIDATES TO COMPETE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

COMPETE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THINK ABOUT THIS.

THINK ABOUT THIS. THESE CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT THE

THESE CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT THE LAST YEAR PLUS IN ONE STATE.

LAST YEAR PLUS IN ONE STATE. AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE OTHER 49.

IN THE OTHER 49. AND YET THEY’RE GOING TO MAKE

AND YET THEY’RE GOING TO MAKE THIS DISPOSITIVE FOR HOW THEY DO

THIS DISPOSITIVE FOR HOW THEY DO IN THOSE OTHER 49 STATES.

IN THOSE OTHER 49 STATES. IT’S JUST NOT FAIR.

IT’S JUST NOT FAIR. >> IT’S AT LEAST GOING TO BE

>> IT’S AT LEAST GOING TO BE FIRST IF NOT DISPOSITIVE.

FIRST IF NOT DISPOSITIVE. IT’S MOMENTUM.

IT’S MOMENTUM. WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF IOWA?

WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF IOWA? YOU GET MOMENTUM, RIGHT?

YOU GET MOMENTUM, RIGHT? YOU GET MOMENTUM WITH DONORS,