VOTERS THERE, WHO ARE THE BASE OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN.

OF HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN. BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS,

BUT AGAIN, THE CRAZY THING IS, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT’S BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING

BERNIE SANDERS WHO’S RUNNING AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT

AWAY FROMW THIS NOMINATION FIGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES,

RIGHT NOW IN THE EARLY STAGES, AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE

AND NOBODY ON THE DEBATE STAGE SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER

SEEMED TO NOTICE THAT THE OTHER NIGHT.

NIGHT. >> NO, THEY DIDN’T.

>> NO, THEY DIDN’T. THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG

THEY ALL WENT AFTER BLOOMBERG AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY

AND THEY BEAT HIM UP, PRETTY GOOD.

GOOD. BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS

BUT MEANWHILE, BERNIE SANDERS GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED.

GOT AWAY BASICALLY UNSCATHED. I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG

I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, BLOOMBERG DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE

DID HIT HIM FOR HAVING THREE HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM --

HOUSES, AND THEN THEY GOT HIM -- THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE

THEY CRITICIZED HIM ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL.

OF ISSUES ON MEDICARE FOR ALL. BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE

BUT HE WAS NOT THE FOCUS OF THE ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND

ATTACKS COMING FROM WARREN AND BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND

BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND KLOBUCHAR.

KLOBUCHAR. AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT

AND I’M WONDERING WHY, NOT BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT

BECAUSE I’M NOT -- I’M NOT PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT.

PICKING A HORSE IN THIS FIGHT. I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS

I’M JUST SAYING I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN

TO ME YOU’D WANT TO TAKE DOWN THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN

THE GUY WHO’S THREATENING TO RUN AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION.

AWAY WITH THIS NOMINATION. EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND

EVERYONE CAN READ THE POLLS, AND THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT

THE POLLS SHOW OR PREDICT THAT BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM

BERNIE SANDERS COULD EMERGE FROM SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL

SUPER TUESDAY WITH A SUBSTANTIAL DELEGATE LEAD.

DELEGATE LEAD. AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD

AND THE KIND OF DOLEGAT LEAD THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY

THAT IT WILL BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW

DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY TO CLAW BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF

BACK IN THE SUCCESS OF PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL

PRIMARIES, INCLUDING MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL

BLOOMBERG WITH HIS -- WITH ALL HIS BILLIONS.

HIS BILLIONS. IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE

IT’S JUST -- JUST LOOK AT THE MATH.

MATH. WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

WE KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE

AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WHERE EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF

EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL, IF YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY

YOU GET A BIG LEAD, IT’S REALLY HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH

HARD FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO CATCH YOU.

YOU. SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE

SO I JUST WONDERED WHY MORE FIRE WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY

WASN’T TRAINED AGAINST THE GUY WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN

WHO IS THREATENING TO JUST RUN AWAY.

AWAY. >> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE

>> WILLIE, NICOLE WALLACE YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT --

YESTERDAY WAS TALKING ABOUT -- SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE

SHE WAS HAVING THESE TERRIBLE FLASHBACKS OF 2016.

FLASHBACKS OF 2016. THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN

THIS IS JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU

NOMINATION FIGHT IN 2016, YOU HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS

HAD DONALD TRUMP WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY

OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON EVERYBODY NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU

NEEDED TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT YOU HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER

HAD MARCO AND JEB GOING AFTER EACH OTHER.

EACH OTHER. YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING

YOU HAD CHRIS CHRISTY ATTACKING MARCO.

MARCO. YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER

YOU HAD TED CRUZ GOING AFTER JEB.

JEB. REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG

REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ

PERIOD OF TIME WHEN TED CRUZ REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP.

REFUSED TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP. AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE

AND IT WASN’T UNTIL THEY WERE TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE

TWO OF THE LAST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED

FIELD THAT THEY FINALLY STARTED TO DO THAT.

TO DO THAT. BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS

BUT YOU LOOK AT A SPATE OF POLLS THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S

THAT CAME OUT YID, AND IT’S STILL NOT TOO LATE.

STILL NOT TOO LATE. CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA

CALIFORNIA, THERE’S A CALIFORNIA POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND

POLL THAT SHOWED BIDEN AND BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP

BLOOMBERG AND SANDERS BUNCHED UP NEAR THE TOP.

NEAR THE TOP. YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME

YOU HAD A TEXAS POLL THAT CAME OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME

OUT THAT SHOWED ABOUT THE SAME THING.

THING. OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY

OBVIOUSLY SANDERS MORE COMABLY AHEAD THERE.

AHEAD THERE. BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME

BUT BIDEN STILL GETTING SOME POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME

POINTS IN IN TEXAS, THE SAME THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP.

THING, IT WAS A CLOSER MATCHUP. AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL

AND SOUTH CAROLINA IS STILL PRETTY TIGHT.

PRETTY TIGHT. SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR

SO THERE’S STILL A WINDOW FOR ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO

ALL THESE CANDIDATES TO CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS.

CHALLENGE BERNIE SANDERS. BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY

BUT ELIZABETH WARREN ESPECIALLY DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM

DOESN’T SEEM TO WANT TO TAKE HIM ON.

ON. IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED

IT’S JUST ALL THE FIRE IS AIMED AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES

AT MODERATES AND THE MODERATES ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS

ARE SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER AS WELL.

WELL. >> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE

>> IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LIKE 2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU

2016, NIKKOLE IS RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH

HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO VANK WISH EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE

EACH OTHER THINKING THEY’LL BE THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP.

THE ONES TO GET TO THAT MATCHUP. BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH

BY THE TIME YOU WANK WISH EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE

EVERYBODY WHO’S NOT BERNIE SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE.

SANDERS, HE’S THE NOMINEE. WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE

WE SHOULD LOOK CLOSELY AT THE AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE.

AFTERNOON AMERICAN VOTE. THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET

THERE’S A NEW "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS

JOURNAL" NBC POLL OUT THIS MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE

MORNING THAT SHOWS BERNIE SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN

SANDERS HAS CAUGHT JOE BIDEN AMONG BLACK VOTERS.

AMONG BLACK VOTERS. REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30

REMEMBER, THAT SPREAD WAS 30 POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR.

POINTS AT SOME POINT LAST YEAR. WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE

WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE THAT, JOE AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER,

AND MIKA JUST READ THAT NUMBER, HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO.

HE’S CREEPING UP THERE TOO. THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA

THOSE VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS

ARE WATCHING WHAT’S HAPPENING AS MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE

MANY PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.

PLACE. THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC

THEY WEREN’T GOING TO BE STATIC VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN.

VOTERS FOR JOE BIDEN. THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY,

THEY’RE WATCHING NEVADA AND SAY, I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING

I DON’T WANT TO BACK A LOSING HORSE.

HORSE. SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS

SO YOU’VE SEEN BERNIE SANDERS NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE

NOW CLIMB STEADILY AMONG THOSE ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN

ALL-IMPORTANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AS WELL.

VOTERS AS WELL. >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. AND THIS WAS SORT OF

AND THIS WAS SORT OF PREDICTABLE.

PREDICTABLE. THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM

THIS IS WHAT WE’VE SEEN FROM AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH

AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE

CAROLINA AND ELSEWHERE HISTORICALLY.

HISTORICALLY. I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT

I THINK THEY’RE BEING VERY SORT OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL,

OF PRAGMATIC AND TACTICAL, STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION.

STRATEGIC, ABOUT THIS ELECTION. THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

THEY WANT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN

TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP.

BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR

AND WITH JOE BIDEN’S POOR FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE

FINISHES IN THE FIRST COUPLE PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR

PRIMARIES AND SOME OF HIS POOR DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH

DEBATE PERFORMANCES, HE WAS MUCH BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S

BETTER THE OTHER NIGHT, BUT HE’S HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES.

HAD SOME PRETTY AWFUL ONES. AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING

AND PEOPLE JUST STARTED TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN

ANOTHER LOOK AROUND, AND THEN YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS.

YOU’VE GOT BERNIE SANDERS. MEANWHILE THERE IS A

MEANWHILE THERE IS A GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG

GENERATIONAL DIVIDE AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS.

AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG

YOU HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A

AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST LIKE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL

LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN GENERAL WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS

WHO ARE BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS.

SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK

THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF

WAY AHEAD TO THE FALL, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT

THE PROBLEMS, THEY’RE NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE

NECESSARILY THE MOST RELIABLE VOTERS.

VOTERS. THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH

THEY DON’T COME OUT IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS.

LARGE NUMBERS. AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO

AND BERNIE SANDERS’ CLAIM TO RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE

RADICALLY ENLARGE THE ELECTORATE BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND

BY BRINGING ALL THESE YOUNG AND FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY

FIRST-TIME VOTERS OUT AS THE WAY HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP,

HE’S GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP, WE HAVEN’T SEEN THAT IN THE