BUT AGAIN, I STRESS, LET’S SEE WHAT THE SUBSEQUENT KWACHLZWAVES

WHAT THE SUBSEQUENT KWACHLZWAVES >> VIEWERS IN THE LAST SEGMENT

>> VIEWERS IN THE LAST SEGMENT MAY HAVE HEARD BERNIE SURROGATE

MAY HAVE HEARD BERNIE SURROGATE CALL BLOOMBERG AN OLIGARCH TO

CALL BLOOMBERG AN OLIGARCH TO WHICH JASON TOOK EXCEPTION.

WHICH JASON TOOK EXCEPTION. STATE SENATOR TURNER FROM OHIO

STATE SENATOR TURNER FROM OHIO IS STILL LISTENING IN DES MOINES

IS STILL LISTENING IN DES MOINES BECAUSE SHE WANTED A MOMENT TO

BECAUSE SHE WANTED A MOMENT TO RESPOND.

RESPOND. NINA?

NINA? >> SENATOR.

>> SENATOR. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. IT’S IRONIC TO ME THAT SOMEBODY

IT’S IRONIC TO ME THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DEFEND THE WEALTHIEST

WOULD DEFEND THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE

PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WORKING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. WE NEED REAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE

WE NEED REAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM TO THE EXTENT THAT A

REFORM TO THE EXTENT THAT A MAYOR BLOOMBERG CAN TOTALLY

MAYOR BLOOMBERG CAN TOTALLY FINANCE HIS CAMPAIGN.

FINANCE HIS CAMPAIGN. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE

HE DOESN’T HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE.

PEOPLE. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO BUILD A

HE DOESN’T HAVE TO BUILD A MOVEMENT.

MOVEMENT. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO TALK TO

HE DOESN’T HAVE TO TALK TO PEOPLE.

PEOPLE. HE CAN BUY HIS WAY.

HE CAN BUY HIS WAY. IT IS THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT THE

IT IS THE SAME ATTITUDE THAT THE ELITES, MAYBE JASON LIKES THE

ELITES, MAYBE JASON LIKES THE WORD ELITE OVER OLIGARCH, BUT

WORD ELITE OVER OLIGARCH, BUT IT’S THE SAME ATTITUDE THE

IT’S THE SAME ATTITUDE THE ELITES HAD IN 1930 OVER F.D.R.

ELITES HAD IN 1930 OVER F.D.R. ALL OF THEM LINED UP AGAINST

ALL OF THEM LINED UP AGAINST THEM.

THEM. HE SAID, I WELCOME YOUR HATRED

HE SAID, I WELCOME YOUR HATRED BECAUSE HE WAS STANDING UP FOR

BECAUSE HE WAS STANDING UP FOR THE PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE. THAT IS THE SAME MESSAGE BERNIE

THAT IS THE SAME MESSAGE BERNIE SANDERS HAS TO THE EVERYDAY

SANDERS HAS TO THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE OF THIS NATION, THAT I

PEOPLE OF THIS NATION, THAT I WELCOME THE HATRED OF THE ELITES

WELCOME THE HATRED OF THE ELITES BECAUSE I AM STANDING UP FOR

BECAUSE I AM STANDING UP FOR YOU.

YOU. CALL ME A WHIFFER FOR THE

CALL ME A WHIFFER FOR THE WEALTHY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WEALTHY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. >> YOU WORK FOR A CANDIDATE OF

>> YOU WORK FOR A CANDIDATE OF THE 1%.

THE 1%. I HAVE NO PROBLEM CRITICIZING

I HAVE NO PROBLEM CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM.

THE SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS MIKE

THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS MIKE BLOOMBERG TO MAKE THE MONEY HE

BLOOMBERG TO MAKE THE MONEY HE MAKES, BUY WHAT HE WANTS TO BUY,

MAKES, BUY WHAT HE WANTS TO BUY, BUY HIMSELF INTO THE DEBATES IS

BUY HIMSELF INTO THE DEBATES IS A PROBLEM.

A PROBLEM. BUT TO CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH IS A

BUT TO CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH IS A MISNOMER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

MISNOMER IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. YOU’RE WORKING FOR SOMEBODY

YOU’RE WORKING FOR SOMEBODY THAT’S PART OF THE 1%.

THAT’S PART OF THE 1%. DO YOU CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH?

DO YOU CALL HIM AN OLIGARCH? NO, YOU DON’T.

NO, YOU DON’T. YOU SAY HE’S A RICH GUY.

YOU SAY HE’S A RICH GUY. >> HE JUST GOT THERE AT THIS

>> HE JUST GOT THERE AT THIS LATE AGE.

LATE AGE. >> IF YOU WANT TO USE THE TERM

>> IF YOU WANT TO USE THE TERM SHALL -- USE WHATEVER TERM YOU

SHALL -- USE WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO USE.

WANT TO USE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ENEMY

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ENEMY OF THIS COUNTRY, THE ENEMY OF

OF THIS COUNTRY, THE ENEMY OF THE POOR IS NOT JUST EVERYONE

THE POOR IS NOT JUST EVERYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE RICH.

WHO HAPPENS TO BE RICH. IT IS A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM THAT

IT IS A CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM THAT ABUSES PEOPLE.

ABUSES PEOPLE. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT,

IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, THAT’S FINE.

THAT’S FINE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO NAME CALL

BUT IF YOU WANT TO NAME CALL PEOPLE THAT’S NOT GOING TO HELP

PEOPLE THAT’S NOT GOING TO HELP BERNIE IF HE BECOMES THE

BERNIE IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE.

NOMINEE. >> WHO IS NAME CALLING?

>> WHO IS NAME CALLING? I’M NOT NAME CALLING ANYBODY.

I’M NOT NAME CALLING ANYBODY. I’M A LAYING IT OUT THE WAY I

I’M A LAYING IT OUT THE WAY I SEE IT.

SEE IT. >> THIS IS ALL I’M TALKING

>> THIS IS ALL I’M TALKING ABOUT.

ABOUT. >> YOU’RE DEFENDING SOMEBODY

>> YOU’RE DEFENDING SOMEBODY DEFYING HIS WAY THROUGH

DEFYING HIS WAY THROUGH DEMOCRACY.

DEMOCRACY. YES, YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM.

YES, YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM. >> THAT’S HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE.

>> THAT’S HOW YOU GUYS OPERATE. WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING IT

WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING IT MAKES SENSE TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE

MAKES SENSE TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE FOR THE POSITIONS THEY HAVE.

FOR THE POSITIONS THEY HAVE. >> IS THIS ABOUT A WORD, JASON?

>> IS THIS ABOUT A WORD, JASON? IS THIS ABOUT A WORD?

IS THIS ABOUT A WORD? >> NO, IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT A

>> NO, IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT A WORD, IT’S THE IMPLICATIONS OF

WORD, IT’S THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.

IT. IT’S WHEN CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM

IT’S WHEN CRITICIZING THE SYSTEM VERSUS CRITICIZING INDIVIDUALS.

VERSUS CRITICIZING INDIVIDUALS. HE HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THE 1%.

HE HAPPENS TO BE PART OF THE 1%. I WOULD SAY HE’S SOMEBODY WHO IS

I WOULD SAY HE’S SOMEBODY WHO IS WEALTHY.

WEALTHY. BUT HE’S DEDICATED HIM --

BUT HE’S DEDICATED HIM -- LET ME SAY -- BECAUSE I DO LIKE

LET ME SAY -- BECAUSE I DO LIKE THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IT’S A

THIS DEBATE BECAUSE IT’S A DEBATE, I LIKE DEBATES.

DEBATE, I LIKE DEBATES. NUMBER TWO, DO YOU WANT TO

NUMBER TWO, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR WORD FOR OLIGARCH?

CHANGE YOUR WORD FOR OLIGARCH? >> NO, HE DOESN’T TELL ME WHAT

>> NO, HE DOESN’T TELL ME WHAT TO SAY, MY WORD STANDS.

TO SAY, MY WORD STANDS. >> THAT’S THE DECISIVE

>> THAT’S THE DECISIVE CONCLUSION OF THIS BACK AND

CONCLUSION OF THIS BACK AND FORTH.

FORTH. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING? JASON JOHNSON IS A FREQUENT

JASON JOHNSON IS A FREQUENT GUEST ON MY SHOW.

GUEST ON MY SHOW. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY

I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DEBATE AND I’M REALLY

IMPORTANT DEBATE AND I’M REALLY GLAD YOU DIDN’T LET IT GET

GLAD YOU DIDN’T LET IT GET BOILED DOWN TO THE USE OF A

BOILED DOWN TO THE USE OF A WORD.

WORD. IT IS NOT ABOUT A WORD.

IT IS NOT ABOUT A WORD. HERE’S THE OTHER -- AND I

HERE’S THE OTHER -- AND I UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT

UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT VIEWS ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

THE SYSTEM. THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL

THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHO THINKS THERE ARE GOOD

OFFICE WHO THINKS THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES IN

PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

CHARLOTTESVILLE. THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL

THE ENEMY IS THE GUY IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHO GOT A PERMISSION SLIP

OFFICE WHO GOT A PERMISSION SLIP TO CHEAT IN PRESIDENTIAL

TO CHEAT IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

ELECTIONS. THE ENEMY IS A GUY WHO CALLS HIS

THE ENEMY IS A GUY WHO CALLS HIS GENERALS DOPES AND LOSERS.

GENERALS DOPES AND LOSERS. I AM NAUSEOUS WHEN I SEE

I AM NAUSEOUS WHEN I SEE DEMOCRATS FIGHT AMONGST

DEMOCRATS FIGHT AMONGST THEMSELVES.

THEMSELVES. I KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS GET NO

I KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS GET NO SAY -- I’VE SAID I’LL VOTE -- IF

SAY -- I’VE SAID I’LL VOTE -- IF YOU PICK AN AUTOMOBILE, I WILL

YOU PICK AN AUTOMOBILE, I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

VOTE FOR IT. I FEEL SO WARY WHEN I SEE THESE

I FEEL SO WARY WHEN I SEE THESE REALLY, REALLY INTENSE FIGHTS

REALLY, REALLY INTENSE FIGHTS AROUND SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP

AROUND SOMEONE TRYING TO HELP Y’ALL WIN.

Y’ALL WIN. >> MY THING IS THIS.

>> MY THING IS THIS. LIKE I SAID, I AM AN AMERICAN

LIKE I SAID, I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

CITIZEN. I HAVE NO PARTICULAR LOYALTY TO

I HAVE NO PARTICULAR LOYALTY TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ANY

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ANY OTHER PARTY LIKE THAT.

OTHER PARTY LIKE THAT. BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THIS.

BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THIS. IF YOU’RE TRYING TO BUILD A

IF YOU’RE TRYING TO BUILD A COALITION TO GET DONALD TRUMP

COALITION TO GET DONALD TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE, THIS SORT OF CUTE

OUT OF OFFICE, THIS SORT OF CUTE RED MEAT STUFF IS FINE ON

RED MEAT STUFF IS FINE ON TWITTER.

TWITTER. BUT IT’S NOT HOW YOU’RE IS

BUT IT’S NOT HOW YOU’RE IS BEINGLY SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING

BEINGLY SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING A CAMPAIGN.

A CAMPAIGN. FIGHT BLOOMBERG ON THE ISSUES.

FIGHT BLOOMBERG ON THE ISSUES. TALK ABOUT STOP AND FRISK.

TALK ABOUT STOP AND FRISK. TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAD TO SIGN

TALK ABOUT HOW THEY HAD TO SIGN AN NDA SO THEY CAN’T TALK ABOUT

AN NDA SO THEY CAN’T TALK ABOUT THINGS HE’S DONE.

THINGS HE’S DONE. THAT IS FAIR AND REASONABLE.

THAT IS FAIR AND REASONABLE. BUT WHEN YOU REDUCE THIS TO NAME

BUT WHEN YOU REDUCE THIS TO NAME CALLING INSTEAD OF POLICY,

CALLING INSTEAD OF POLICY, YOU’RE DOING THE EXACT THING

YOU’RE DOING THE EXACT THING BERNIE SUPPORTERS COMPLAIN