>>> I MEAN, LOOK, IF YOU THINK THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN

THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS BEEN CHAOTIC, DIVISIVE, TOXIC,

CHAOTIC, DIVISIVE, TOXIC, EXHAUSTING, IMAGINE SPENDING THE

EXHAUSTING, IMAGINE SPENDING THE BETTER PART OF 2020 WITH BERNIE

BETTER PART OF 2020 WITH BERNIE SANDERS VERSES DONALD TRUMP.

SANDERS VERSES DONALD TRUMP. THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT WILL BE

THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT WILL BE LIKE FOR THIS COUNTRY.

LIKE FOR THIS COUNTRY. THERE’S A MAJORITY OF THE

THERE’S A MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO I THINK

AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO I THINK RIGHT NOW JUST WANT TO TURN ON

RIGHT NOW JUST WANT TO TURN ON THE TV, SEE THEIR PRESIDENT AND

THE TV, SEE THEIR PRESIDENT AND ACTUALLY FEEL THEIR BLOOD

ACTUALLY FEEL THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT

PRESSURE GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT INSTEAD OF UP THROUGH THE ROOF.

INSTEAD OF UP THROUGH THE ROOF. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET A

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET A DIFFERENT TONE.

DIFFERENT TONE. >> AND FOR LOWERING MY BLOOD

>> AND FOR LOWERING MY BLOOD PRESSURE, LAST NIGHT WAS ANOTHER

PRESSURE, LAST NIGHT WAS ANOTHER STRONG DEBATE FOR THE FORMER

STRONG DEBATE FOR THE FORMER SOUTH BEND MAYOR WHO KEPT THE

SOUTH BEND MAYOR WHO KEPT THE BIG PICTURE IN MIND ON WHAT’S AT

BIG PICTURE IN MIND ON WHAT’S AT STAKE IF DEMOCRATS AREN’T

STAKE IF DEMOCRATS AREN’T SUCCESSFUL WITH ANOTHER FOUR

SUCCESSFUL WITH ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF CHAOS.

YEARS OF CHAOS. SO, I’VE GOT TO ASK YOU IS THE

SO, I’VE GOT TO ASK YOU IS THE BREAKING BUTTIGIEG NEWS THAT

BREAKING BUTTIGIEG NEWS THAT FORMER FOX NEWS ANCHOR AND

FORMER FOX NEWS ANCHOR AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE MAYOR PETE AS

DONALD TRUMP HAVE MAYOR PETE AS THEIR SECOND BALLOT CHOICE?

THEIR SECOND BALLOT CHOICE? IS THAT WHAT I’M READING ON

IS THAT WHAT I’M READING ON TWITTER?

TWITTER? I’M 100 POINTS REAL TRUMP ALL

I’M 100 POINTS REAL TRUMP ALL THE WAY BUT IF I HAD TO LIVE AIN

THE WAY BUT IF I HAD TO LIVE AIN AMERICA WITH ONE OF THE DEMS,

AMERICA WITH ONE OF THE DEMS, MAYOR PETE AND TRUMP SAID I CAN

MAYOR PETE AND TRUMP SAID I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

LIVE WITH THAT. MAYBE YOU CAN SHED LIGHTEN THE

MAYBE YOU CAN SHED LIGHTEN THE SEEMING FAVOR OF PETE BUTTIGIEG

SEEMING FAVOR OF PETE BUTTIGIEG AMONG ERIC AND DONALD TRUMP.

AMONG ERIC AND DONALD TRUMP. >> Reporter: ON THE DRIVE OVER

>> Reporter: ON THE DRIVE OVER FROM CHARLESTON, I WAS WITH MY

FROM CHARLESTON, I WAS WITH MY PRODUCER COLLEAGUE, MATT AND I

PRODUCER COLLEAGUE, MATT AND I WAS LIKE IS THIS ACTUALLY THE

WAS LIKE IS THIS ACTUALLY THE TWITTER HANDLE?

TWITTER HANDLE? >> I’M LIKE YOUR MOM.

>> I’M LIKE YOUR MOM. I’M LIKE BANGING ON IT.

I’M LIKE BANGING ON IT. THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN SENDS THE

THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN SENDS THE TWEET OVER.

TWEET OVER. I GUESS WE’RE GOING FOR IT.

I GUESS WE’RE GOING FOR IT. ALL T

ALL T IT LOOKS LIKE HE’S ENDORSED

IT LOOKS LIKE HE’S ENDORSED MAYOR PETE AND SUGGEST HE

MAYOR PETE AND SUGGEST HE WILLINGLY TURN OVER THE WHITE

WILLINGLY TURN OVER THE WHITE HOUSE IN JANUARY 2021 IF IT

HOUSE IN JANUARY 2021 IF IT COMES TO THAT.

COMES TO THAT. PETE BUTTIGIEG, AT THIS POINT,

PETE BUTTIGIEG, AT THIS POINT, HAS TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC

HAS TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.

NOMINATION. THIS TUESDAY IS A BIG DEAL.

THIS TUESDAY IS A BIG DEAL. THEY PUT OUT A MEMO SAYING THEY

THEY PUT OUT A MEMO SAYING THEY NEED KEEP SANDERS WITHIN 350

NEED KEEP SANDERS WITHIN 350 DELEGATE MARGIN BECAUSE THEY’RE

DELEGATE MARGIN BECAUSE THEY’RE CONTENDING MARCH 10th AND MARCH

CONTENDING MARCH 10th AND MARCH 17th ARE BETTER STATES FOR THEM.

17th ARE BETTER STATES FOR THEM. THESE ARE STATES LIKE ILLINOIS,

THESE ARE STATES LIKE ILLINOIS, MICHIGAN, MISSOURI, ARIZONA,

MICHIGAN, MISSOURI, ARIZONA, WASHINGTON STATE, IDAHO.

WASHINGTON STATE, IDAHO. SO, THEY BELIEVE IF THEY CAN

SO, THEY BELIEVE IF THEY CAN REMAIN IN CONTENTION THROUGH

REMAIN IN CONTENTION THROUGH SUPER TUESDAY AND KEEP BERNIE

SUPER TUESDAY AND KEEP BERNIE SANDERS CLOSE, THAT THEY ARE THE

SANDERS CLOSE, THAT THEY ARE THE ONES MOST VIABLE TO BE THE

ONES MOST VIABLE TO BE THE COUNTER TO BERNIE SANDERS.

COUNTER TO BERNIE SANDERS. JUST YESTERDAY THEY WENT UP WITH

JUST YESTERDAY THEY WENT UP WITH A $3.5 MILLION AD BUY, TARGETING

A $3.5 MILLION AD BUY, TARGETING SPECIFIC MEDIA MARKETS.

SPECIFIC MEDIA MARKETS. THEY’RE TRYING TO WIN DELEGATES

THEY’RE TRYING TO WIN DELEGATES IN PLACES LIKE DENVER OR

IN PLACES LIKE DENVER OR NORFOLK, THESE VERY INTENTIONAL

NORFOLK, THESE VERY INTENTIONAL PLACES OVER THE NEXT WEEK.

PLACES OVER THE NEXT WEEK. >> YOU KNOW, IT’S A POINT PETE

>> YOU KNOW, IT’S A POINT PETE BUTTIGIEG MADE WITH OUR

BUTTIGIEG MADE WITH OUR COLLEAGUE, CHRIS MATTHEWS I WANT

COLLEAGUE, CHRIS MATTHEWS I WANT TO PLAY FOR ALL OF YOU.

TO PLAY FOR ALL OF YOU. >> I MEAN, DIFFERENT DISTRICTS

>> I MEAN, DIFFERENT DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT STORIES BUT

HAVE DIFFERENT STORIES BUT WHAT’S CONSISTENT IS NOT ONE OF

WHAT’S CONSISTENT IS NOT ONE OF THE 40 DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE

THE 40 DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE FLIPPED THOSE SEATS IN THE LAST

FLIPPED THOSE SEATS IN THE LAST ELECTION ARE SUPPORTING SENATOR

ELECTION ARE SUPPORTING SENATOR SANDERS OR HIS PLATFORM.

SANDERS OR HIS PLATFORM. THEY’RE RUNNING AWAY FROM IT

THEY’RE RUNNING AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH

BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH TROUBLE IT WILL BE FOR THEM.

TROUBLE IT WILL BE FOR THEM. >> I KNOW NANCY PELOSI RESPONDED

>> I KNOW NANCY PELOSI RESPONDED SHE THOUGHT BERNIE SANDERS COULD

SHE THOUGHT BERNIE SANDERS COULD KEEP THE HOUSE BUT IT’S A

KEEP THE HOUSE BUT IT’S A POTENTIALLY POWERFUL MESSAGE

POTENTIALLY POWERFUL MESSAGE FROM MAYOR PETE.

FROM MAYOR PETE. >> I WOULDN’T SAY FROM MAYOR

>> I WOULDN’T SAY FROM MAYOR PETE.

PETE. VERSES THE FRONTLINE MEMBERS WHO

VERSES THE FRONTLINE MEMBERS WHO DID FLIP RED DISTRICTS.

DID FLIP RED DISTRICTS. WHAT I DO THINK PETE’S MISSING

WHAT I DO THINK PETE’S MISSING IN THE EXCHANGE IS SELLING

IN THE EXCHANGE IS SELLING HIMSELF FORWARD.

HIMSELF FORWARD. EVEN THE FRAME ON THE DEBATE

EVEN THE FRAME ON THE DEBATE STAGE, PAINTING THE PICTURE OF A

STAGE, PAINTING THE PICTURE OF A TRUMP VERSES SANDERS, DIVISIVE,

TRUMP VERSES SANDERS, DIVISIVE, CHAOTIC TIME, DOESN’T ADD POINTS

CHAOTIC TIME, DOESN’T ADD POINTS TO HIS ROSTER.

TO HIS ROSTER. THAT’S SOMETHING HE HAS TO FINE

THAT’S SOMETHING HE HAS TO FINE TUNE ESPECIALLY TAKING THIS

TUNE ESPECIALLY TAKING THIS SURGICAL APPROACH.

SURGICAL APPROACH. >> THE BEST MESSAGE IS YOU CAN’T

>> THE BEST MESSAGE IS YOU CAN’T WIN AND I THINK THE MAYOR

WIN AND I THINK THE MAYOR DELIVERS IT WELL BECAUSE UNLIKE

DELIVERS IT WELL BECAUSE UNLIKE OTHER CANDIDATES, HE HAS A

OTHER CANDIDATES, HE HAS A MESSAGE OF CHANGE BUT IT’S, AS

MESSAGE OF CHANGE BUT IT’S, AS HE WOULD SAY A MESSAGE IN

HE WOULD SAY A MESSAGE IN INCLUSIVE, NOT EXCLUSIVE.

INCLUSIVE, NOT EXCLUSIVE. HE STILL HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO

HE STILL HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE

ADDRESS WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE FATAL FLAW IN HIS CANDIDACY AND

FATAL FLAW IN HIS CANDIDACY AND THAT’S THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT

THAT’S THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT PEOPLE OF SUPPORT.

PEOPLE OF SUPPORT. HE NEEDS ERIC HOLDER TO COME

HE NEEDS ERIC HOLDER TO COME FORWARD AND ENDORSE HIM AND

FORWARD AND ENDORSE HIM AND VOUCH FOR HIM IN A WAY BECAUSE

VOUCH FOR HIM IN A WAY BECAUSE ABSENT THAT, IT’S HARD TO SEE

ABSENT THAT, IT’S HARD TO SEE HOW HE INCREASES HIS SUPPORT.

HOW HE INCREASES HIS SUPPORT. IF YOU’RE AT 2% WITH BLACK

IF YOU’RE AT 2% WITH BLACK VOTERS, WHICH I THINK HE WAS,

VOTERS, WHICH I THINK HE WAS, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THE

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR

DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT.

PRESIDENT. >> YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHAT THAT

>> YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHAT THAT CAMPAIGN SAYS ABOUT MATT’S

CAMPAIGN SAYS ABOUT MATT’S CRITICISM.

CRITICISM. BECAUSE IT’S ONE I’VE HEARD A

BECAUSE IT’S ONE I’VE HEARD A LOT, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY.

LOT, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY. >> Reporter: THIS IS NOT WHERE

>> Reporter: THIS IS NOT WHERE THE CAMPAIGN WANTED TO BE WHEN

THE CAMPAIGN WANTED TO BE WHEN IT COMES TO SUPPORTED OF VOTERS

IT COMES TO SUPPORTED OF VOTERS OF COLOR.

OF COLOR. THEY REALLY BELIEVE THE RESULTS

THEY REALLY BELIEVE THE RESULTS WOULD NOT ONLY SHOW IN THE POLLS

WOULD NOT ONLY SHOW IN THE POLLS BUT, ON ELECTION DAY AND THEY

BUT, ON ELECTION DAY AND THEY DID IT IN NEVADA.

DID IT IN NEVADA. IT WAS A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH

IT WAS A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH A VOTER IN THE RURAL PART OF THE

A VOTER IN THE RURAL PART OF THE STATE.

STATE. AND SHE TOLD ME IT TAKES A WHILE

AND SHE TOLD ME IT TAKES A WHILE FOR US TO LIKE YOU.

FOR US TO LIKE YOU. YOU HAVE TO PRIME THE PRUMP.

YOU HAVE TO PRIME THE PRUMP. THE QUESTION IS AS THE YEAR OF

THE QUESTION IS AS THE YEAR OF PETE BUTTIGIEG TRYING TO

PETE BUTTIGIEG TRYING TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE ENTIRE

INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE ENTIRE REGION ENOUGH TIME?

REGION ENOUGH TIME? AND I THINK THAT’S THE REALITY

AND I THINK THAT’S THE REALITY HERE IS HE FINDS HIMSELF

HERE IS HE FINDS HIMSELF STRUGGLING TO GARNER THAT

STRUGGLING TO GARNER THAT SUPPORT.

SUPPORT. THIS MORNING WAS WITH REVEREND

THIS MORNING WAS WITH REVEREND AL SHARPTON AND TALKED ABOUT

AL SHARPTON AND TALKED ABOUT HUMILITY, SAYING HE UNDERSTANDS

HUMILITY, SAYING HE UNDERSTANDS HE CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT’S

HE CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT’S LIKE THE BE A YOUNG BLACK MAN

LIKE THE BE A YOUNG BLACK MAN GROWING UP AND WHEN THE LIGHTS

GROWING UP AND WHEN THE LIGHTS TURN ON, THE RED AND BLUE LIGHTS

TURN ON, THE RED AND BLUE LIGHTS TURN ON BEHIND YOU, WHAT THAT’S

TURN ON BEHIND YOU, WHAT THAT’S LIKE BUT THE LEAST HE CAN DO IS

LIKE BUT THE LEAST HE CAN DO IS LISTEN.

LISTEN. AND I’LL RECALL FOUR YEARS AGO,

AND I’LL RECALL FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU’LL REMEMBER BERNIE SANDERS

YOU’LL REMEMBER BERNIE SANDERS STRUGGLED QUITE MIGHTILY.