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WE VHAVE EUGENE ROBINSON, STEVE RATTNER IS HERE, AND WE WELCOME
RATTNER IS HERE, AND WE WELCOME TO THE SHOW DEMOCRATIC
TO THE SHOW DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FORMER
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FORMER MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG.
MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. YOUR SUPPORTERS LOVE YOU.
YOUR SUPPORTERS LOVE YOU. >> THE MOMENTUM IS FANTASTIC.
>> THE MOMENTUM IS FANTASTIC. WE WERE JUST OUT AT A COUPLE
WE WERE JUST OUT AT A COUPLE POLLING SITES WHERE OUR
POLLING SITES WHERE OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE 14I6RSHIVERING IN
VOLUNTEERS ARE 14I6RSHIVERING IN WORLD HOLDING OUR SIGNS AND I
WORLD HOLDING OUR SIGNS AND I LOVE THE ENERGY.
LOVE THE ENERGY. WE’LL KEEP PUSHING ALL THE WAY
WE’LL KEEP PUSHING ALL THE WAY AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT NEW
AND WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HAMPSHIRE. >> SO IT IS PRIMARY DAY IN NEW
>> SO IT IS PRIMARY DAY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HAMPSHIRE. AGAIN, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
AGAIN, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE POLITICS AND FOLLOW
LOVE POLITICS AND FOLLOW POLITICS, THIS IS AS GOODS A AS
POLITICS, THIS IS AS GOODS A AS GETS.
GETS. TALK ABOUT HOW YOUR DAY LAST
TALK ABOUT HOW YOUR DAY LAST ALREADY STARTED.
ALREADY STARTED. >> SO THE DAY BEGAN WITH
>> SO THE DAY BEGAN WITH BRINGING COFFEE AND DOUGHNUTS TO
BRINGING COFFEE AND DOUGHNUTS TO SUPPORTERS WHO ARE OUT THERE AT
SUPPORTERS WHO ARE OUT THERE AT THE EARLY POLLING SITES.
THE EARLY POLLING SITES. EVEN BEFORE DAWN.
EVEN BEFORE DAWN. AND IT IS A GREAT CIVIC RITUAL
AND IT IS A GREAT CIVIC RITUAL OF DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION AND
OF DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION AND EXCITING TO SEE AND ALSO
EXCITING TO SEE AND ALSO REMARKABLE TO THINK THAT WE’VE
REMARKABLE TO THINK THAT WE’VE BEEN AT THIS MORE THAN A YEAR
BEEN AT THIS MORE THAN A YEAR NOW SPREADING OUR MESSAGE ABOUT
NOW SPREADING OUR MESSAGE ABOUT HOW WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A
HOW WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A CAMPAIGN BASED ON BELONGING, THE
CAMPAIGN BASED ON BELONGING, THE CAMPAIGN THAT I BELIEVE WILL
CAMPAIGN THAT I BELIEVE WILL ULTIMATELY GO ON AND DEFEAT
ULTIMATELY GO ON AND DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. AND WITH HIM RIGHT HERE IN THE
AND WITH HIM RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE LAST NIGHT, IT REMINDED US
STATE LAST NIGHT, IT REMINDED US ALL OF WHAT IS AT STAKE AND
ALL OF WHAT IS AT STAKE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE
MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE CAMPAIGN AND NOMINEE WHO CAN
CAMPAIGN AND NOMINEE WHO CAN BRING AN END TO THE TRUMP
BRING AN END TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY BECAUSE WE CAN’T
PRESIDENCY BECAUSE WE CAN’T AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS.
AFFORD FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS. >> ARE YOU GOING TO WIN TONIGHT?
>> ARE YOU GOING TO WIN TONIGHT? >> WE THINK SO.
>> WE THINK SO. WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE A
WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD NIGHT.
REALLY GOOD NIGHT. I KNOW THAT WE’RE UP AGAINST
I KNOW THAT WE’RE UP AGAINST SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMPETITION,
SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMPETITION, NEW ENGLAND SENATORS, BUT I
NEW ENGLAND SENATORS, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE’LL HAVE A
STILL THINK THAT WE’LL HAVE A GREAT SHOWING.
GREAT SHOWING. >> WE JUST HAD VICE PRESIDENT
>> WE JUST HAD VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HERE AND HIS ARGUMENT, HE
BIDEN HERE AND HIS ARGUMENT, HE HAS CONCEDED THAT HE WON’T DO
HAS CONCEDED THAT HE WON’T DO TERRIBLY WELL HERE, BUT HE SAID
TERRIBLY WELL HERE, BUT HE SAID LET ME GET TO SOUTH CAROLINA,
LET ME GET TO SOUTH CAROLINA, NEVADA, MORE DIVERSE STATES.
NEVADA, MORE DIVERSE STATES. IT IS NOT NEWS TO YOU THAT YOU
IT IS NOT NEWS TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE STRUGGLED WITH
HAVE STRUGGLED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, LATINO
AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, LATINO VOTERS THAT WILL BE COMING UP AS
VOTERS THAT WILL BE COMING UP AS WE MOVE AWAY FROM IOWA AND IN
WE MOVE AWAY FROM IOWA AND IN THAT IN THAT.
THAT IN THAT. WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THEM AS
WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO THEM AS YOU MOVE TOWARD THOSE STATES?
YOU MOVE TOWARD THOSE STATES? >> ACE SPEAK WITH VOTERS OF
>> ACE SPEAK WITH VOTERS OF COLOR, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS
COLOR, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS WHO HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE IN SO
WHO HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE IN SO MANY WAYS.
MANY WAYS. NO ONE IS FEELING THE MOST -- NO
NO ONE IS FEELING THE MOST -- NO ONE IS FEELING THE PAIN OF
ONE IS FEELING THE PAIN OF LIVING IN THIS ADMINISTRATION
LIVING IN THIS ADMINISTRATION MORE THAN VOTERS OF COLOR AND AS
MORE THAN VOTERS OF COLOR AND AS WE ENGAGE WITH LATINO VOTERS
WE ENGAGE WITH LATINO VOTERS ESPECIALLY BUT NOT ONLY IN
ESPECIALLY BUT NOT ONLY IN NEVADA, AS WE REACH OUT TO BLACK
NEVADA, AS WE REACH OUT TO BLACK VOTERS IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW HOW
VOTERS IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW HOW MANY HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON
MANY HAVE A LASER FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT WE DEFEAT
MAKING SURE THAT WE DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. AND
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE WAY NUMBERS
AS YOU CAN SEE THE WAY NUMBERS ARE JUMPING AROUND, MANY ARE
ARE JUMPING AROUND, MANY ARE LOOKING AT CANDIDATES AND IT IS
LOOKING AT CANDIDATES AND IT IS REALLY DOWN TO THE WIRE WHERE
REALLY DOWN TO THE WIRE WHERE THERE IS A HANDFUL OF OPTIONS,
THERE IS A HANDFUL OF OPTIONS, VERY DIFFERENT VISIONS ON WHAT
VERY DIFFERENT VISIONS ON WHAT IT WILL TAKE NOT ONLY TO WIN THE
IT WILL TAKE NOT ONLY TO WIN THE ELECTION, BUT TO MOVE THE
ELECTION, BUT TO MOVE THE COUNTRY FORWARD.
COUNTRY FORWARD. >> WHAT IS YOUR DIAGNOSIS
>> WHAT IS YOUR DIAGNOSIS PERSONALLY OF WHY YOU’VE
PERSONALLY OF WHY YOU’VE STRUGGLED WITH 23RI7B VOTEAFRICA
STRUGGLED WITH 23RI7B VOTEAFRICA VOTERS?
VOTERS? >> BLACK VOTERS HAVE EVERY
>> BLACK VOTERS HAVE EVERY REASON TO BE SKEPTICAL OF NEW
REASON TO BE SKEPTICAL OF NEW FACES ESPECIALLY AFTER A FEELING
FACES ESPECIALLY AFTER A FEELING OF BEING TAKEN FOR GRANTED AND
OF BEING TAKEN FOR GRANTED AND OFTEN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
OFTEN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND IT IS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU
AND IT IS DIFFERENT WHEN YOU HAVEN’T HAD YEARS OR DECADES TO
HAVEN’T HAD YEARS OR DECADES TO EARN A LEVEL OF CREDIT ABILITY.
EARN A LEVEL OF CREDIT ABILITY. BUT WE’RE TAKING EVERY
BUT WE’RE TAKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE ENXWANKINGGAGEING WITH VOT
WE’RE ENXWANKINGGAGEING WITH VOT WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PLAN IS.
WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PLAN IS. BUT ALSO WHO YOU ARE AND HOW YOU
BUT ALSO WHO YOU ARE AND HOW YOU WILL WIN.
WILL WIN. THAT IS WHAT WE’LL BE TAKING AS
THAT IS WHAT WE’LL BE TAKING AS OUR MESSAGE THROUGH NEVADA,
OUR MESSAGE THROUGH NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA AND ON INTO THE
SOUTH CAROLINA AND ON INTO THE STATES THAT FOLLOW.
STATES THAT FOLLOW. AND OF COURSE IN ORDER TO EARN
AND OF COURSE IN ORDER TO EARN THIS NOMINATION, IT IS CRITICAL
THIS NOMINATION, IT IS CRITICAL TO EARN THE SUPPORT OF VOTERS OF
TO EARN THE SUPPORT OF VOTERS OF EVERY BACKGROUND AND I WANT TO
EVERY BACKGROUND AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE BLACK VOTER, LATINO
MAKE SURE BLACK VOTER, LATINO VOTERS AND OTHERS ACROSS THE
VOTERS AND OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY KNOW THAT I WILL NOT
COUNTRY KNOW THAT I WILL NOT WRITE ANY VOTE OFF AND I WILL
WRITE ANY VOTE OFF AND I WILL NOT TAKE ANYONE FOR GRANTED.
NOT TAKE ANYONE FOR GRANTED. >> YOU GOT 14 DELEGATES OUT OF
>> YOU GOT 14 DELEGATES OUT OF IOWA AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL AND
IOWA AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL AND BERNIE SANDERS GOT 12.
BERNIE SANDERS GOT 12. YOU ARE THE OFFICIAL
YOU ARE THE OFFICIAL FRONTRUNNER.
FRONTRUNNER. NUMBER ONE, HOW DOES THAT FEEL?
NUMBER ONE, HOW DOES THAT FEEL? >> IT IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO
>> IT IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO KEEP AN UNDERDOG MENTALITY.
KEEP AN UNDERDOG MENTALITY. YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN
YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN AND KEEP PUSHING.
AND KEEP PUSHING. BUT IT IS REMARKABLE WHAT
BUT IT IS REMARKABLE WHAT HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. I DON’T THINK A YEAR AGO ANYBODY
I DON’T THINK A YEAR AGO ANYBODY WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT THIS
WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD BE.
IS WHERE WE WOULD BE. I BELIEVED IN OUR MESSAGE, BUT
I BELIEVED IN OUR MESSAGE, BUT THIS CAMPAIGN BEGAN WITH A STAFF
THIS CAMPAIGN BEGAN WITH A STAFF OF FOUR.AL FORTUNE, NO NAME
OF FOUR.AL FORTUNE, NO NAME RECOGNITION, JUST THIS IDEA.
RECOGNITION, JUST THIS IDEA. AND WE SAW IN IOWA THAT THE IDEA
AND WE SAW IN IOWA THAT THE IDEA CAN GATHER A LOT OF DIFFERENT
CAN GATHER A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOGETHER.
PEOPLE TOGETHER. BUT NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A STATE
BUT NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A STATE THAT THINKS FOR ITSELF.
THAT THINKS FOR ITSELF. NOBODY TELLS NEW HAMPSHIRE WHAT
NOBODY TELLS NEW HAMPSHIRE WHAT DO.
DO. SO BEING HERE IS A CHANCE TO GLN
SO BEING HERE IS A CHANCE TO GLN STRAIGHT
STRAIGHT DEMONSTRATE THAT KIND OF
DEMONSTRATE THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. >> AND IT IS RASHLGABLEEMARKABLE
>> AND IT IS RASHLGABLEEMARKABLE SOUTH YOU SAID R BEND TOBEND TO
SOUTH YOU SAID R BEND TOBEND TO HOW DO YOU SUSTAIN THE ARGUMENT
HOW DO YOU SUSTAIN THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU, THE NEW GUY FROM SOUTH
THAT YOU, THE NEW GUY FROM SOUTH BEND, IS THE GUY?
BEND, IS THE GUY? >> WELL, IN MANY WAYS THAT IS
>> WELL, IN MANY WAYS THAT IS THE ARGUMENT.
THE ARGUMENT. IT IS THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO
IT IS THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO
BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. LOOK, I’M NO STRANGER TO
LOOK, I’M NO STRANGER TO GOVERNING OR SERVICE AND I’M NO
GOVERNING OR SERVICE AND I’M NO STRANGER TO HOLDING OFFICE.
STRANGER TO HOLDING OFFICE. BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A
BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS A SENSE RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO
SENSE RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO TURN THE PAGE AND DO SOMETHING
TURN THE PAGE AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENT. AND WHAT I’M OFFERING IS A
AND WHAT I’M OFFERING IS A PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK LINES
PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK LINES UP WITH PERSPECTIVES FROM
UP WITH PERSPECTIVES FROM COMMUNITIES LIKE IS IS MINE,
COMMUNITIES LIKE IS IS MINE, INDUSTRIAL CITIES, SMALL
INDUSTRIAL CITIES, SMALL COMMUNITIES AND EVEN IN THE
COMMUNITIES AND EVEN IN THE BIGGEST CITIES, A LOT OF AREA
BIGGEST CITIES, A LOT OF AREA WHERE IS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THE
WHERE IS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THE POLITICAL PROCESS JUST ISN’T
POLITICAL PROCESS JUST ISN’T SPEAKING TO THEM.
SPEAKING TO THEM. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THOSE VOICES TO WASHINGTON AND I
THOSE VOICES TO WASHINGTON AND I THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF HOW
THINK THAT THAT IS PART OF HOW WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER THIS
WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER THIS UNLIKELY COALITION TOGETHER AND
UNLIKELY COALITION TOGETHER AND BILGD THE SUPPORT THAT
BILGD THE SUPPORT THAT BUILD THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE.
BUILD THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE. >> AND PEOPLE WERE LINED UP FOR
>> AND PEOPLE WERE LINED UP FOR HOURS STANDING IN THE COLD LAST
HOURS STANDING IN THE COLD LAST NIGHT FOR THE TRUMP RALLY.
NIGHT FOR THE TRUMP RALLY. HOURS AND HOURS TO BE THERE FOR
HOURS AND HOURS TO BE THERE FOR MANY MORE HOYERSHOURS AND THEN C
MANY MORE HOYERSHOURS AND THEN C LEAVE FOR HOURS.
LEAVE FOR HOURS. I THINK A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE
I THINK A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP, THEY
WILL VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP, THEY WILL SHOW UP THE WAY THAT THEY
WILL SHOW UP THE WAY THAT THEY DID YESTERDAY.
DID YESTERDAY. IF YOU COULD BE IN A ROOM WITH
IF YOU COULD BE IN A ROOM WITH FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERY SINGLE
FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND I
ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 12,000 PEOPLE WHO
BELIEVE IT WAS 12,000 PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP, BUT IF YOU COULDONE-O
SHOWED UP, BUT IF YOU COULDONE-O YOU SAY?
YOU SAY? >> I’D SAY THE PRESIDENT THINKS
>> I’D SAY THE PRESIDENT THINKS THAT YOU ARE A SUCKER.
THAT YOU ARE A SUCKER. AND THE ONLY ECONOMIC PROCESS
AND THE ONLY ECONOMIC PROCESS THAT HE’S KEPT IS CUTTING TAXES
THAT HE’S KEPT IS CUTTING TAXES ON THE CORPORATIONS AND THE
ON THE CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY.
WEALTHY. HE THINKS THAT YOU WON’T NOTICE
HE THINKS THAT YOU WON’T NOTICE THAT MANUFACTURING IS IN
THAT MANUFACTURING IS IN RECESSION, HE THINKS THAT YOU
RECESSION, HE THINKS THAT YOU WON’T NOTICE THAT HE PUT OUT A
WON’T NOTICE THAT HE PUT OUT A BUDGET YESTERDAY, SAME DAY THAT
BUDGET YESTERDAY, SAME DAY THAT HE CAME HERE INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE,
HE CAME HERE INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE, CUTTING EDUCATION, CUTTING
CUTTING EDUCATION, CUTTING ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, BUT
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, BUT NOT JUST THAT, HE HAS OPENED THE
NOT JUST THAT, HE HAS OPENED THE DOOR TO CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY
DOOR TO CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, THE
AND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, THE VERY THINGS HE SWOOR UP ANDRE TO
VERY THINGS HE SWOOR UP ANDRE TO SO MAYBE IN THE PAST FOLKS WOULD
SO MAYBE IN THE PAST FOLKS WOULD GIVE HIM A PASS OR THIS OR THAT
GIVE HIM A PASS OR THIS OR THAT CHARACTER FLAW, BUT THIS IS MORE
CHARACTER FLAW, BUT THIS IS MORE THAN A QUESTION OF OVERLOOKING
THAN A QUESTION OF OVERLOOKING CERTAIN DEFICIENCIES.
CERTAIN DEFICIENCIES. THE TOTALITY OF THIS PRESIDENT
THE TOTALITY OF THIS PRESIDENT CITY
CITY -- PRESIDENCY HAS DIVIDED THE
-- PRESIDENCY HAS DIVIDED THE COUNTRY AND BROKEN PROMISE AFTER
COUNTRY AND BROKEN PROMISE AFTER PROMISE.
PROMISE. >> BUT THEY ARE STILL GIVING HIM
>> BUT THEY ARE STILL GIVING HIM A PASS.
A PASS. >> YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR
>> YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BASE.
BASE. AND I MEAN, THE DAY HE
AND I MEAN, THE DAY HE RESIGNINGED IN DISGRACE, RICHARD
RESIGNINGED IN DISGRACE, RICHARD NIXON HAD 25% OF THE COUNTRY
NIXON HAD 25% OF THE COUNTRY WITH HIM.
WITH HIM. SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE IDEA
SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN SHAKE OFF EVERY
THAT YOU CAN SHAKE OFF EVERY TRUMP SUPPORTER.
TRUMP SUPPORTER. IT IS ABOUT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
IT IS ABOUT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A POWERFUL AMERICAN
THERE IS A POWERFUL AMERICAN MAJORITY RIGHT NOW THAT BTS WITH
MAJORITY RIGHT NOW THAT BTS WITH AS TOWANTS TO SEE THIS COUNTRY
AS TOWANTS TO SEE THIS COUNTRY MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION