SPEAKER PELOSI TODAY WHO

ATTACKED THE AG'S CHARACTER.

>> IF SOMEBODY LIKE LEV PARNAS

CAME FORWARD, AND THERE WAS

EVIDENCE THERE WAS REASON TO

BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME OF

THAT THAT WAS FACTUAL, THERE

WOULD BE A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR

APPOINTED.

DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT THE

ROGUE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING

TO SUPPORT, POINT A SPECIAL

PROSECUTOR?

NO, BECAUSE HE IS IMPLICATED IN

ALL OF THIS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ALL OF THE

PRESIDENTS.

>> Martha: TREY GOWDY COME AT

THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN AND

FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.

ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, TRACY,

WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT

SPEAKER PELOSI HAD TO SAY THERE?

>> A LOT OF IF'S AND THAT

SENTENCE.

I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS A LOGIC

QUESTION.

THERE HAS TO BE A SPECIAL CRIME

TO BE APPOINTED.

YOU ARE NOT POINTED TO LOOK INTO

IT UNLESS THERE IS A CRIME.

THE ONLY CRIMES I HAVE HEARD

ALLEGED AGAINST BILL BARR'S NAME

MENTIONED AND A TRANSCRIPT IN

THE CONVERSATION HE DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN AND MOST

RECENTLY, HE MAY BE FRIENDS WITH

RUDY GIULIANI BEFORE.

I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THAT BEING

FRIENDS WITH THOSE THREE PEOPLE

IS NOT A CRIME.

AND I KNOW THAT HAVING YOUR NAME

MENTIONED IN A TRANSCRIPT WHEN

YOU ARE NOT A PARTICIPANT IN THE

PHONE CALL IS NOT A CRIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW SHE'S UPSET BECAUSE HE'S

DOING A GOOD JOB.

I KNOW SHE'S UPSET THAT HE'S A

REALLY SMART, GOOD LAWYER, BUT

THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT REASON TO

CALL FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL.

>> Martha: THERE HAVE BEEN A

LOT OF INDICATIONS THE

ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS NOT THAT

PLEASED WITH THE WHOLE STORY OF

WHAT WAS GOING ON.

UKRAINE, RUDY GIULIANI GOING

OVER THERE AND IT SORT OF BEING

EXTRACURRICULAR FROM THE DOJ AND

A LOVE THAT.

SO WITH ANYTHING, IT APPEARS HE

WAS SORT OF PUSHING BACK AGAINST

SOME OF THAT AND IT HAS BEEN

SUGGESTED BUT I WANT TO READ A

STATEMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE, WHO SAID IT'S 100%

FALSE WHAT LEV PARNAS HAS

PROFESSED THERE.

SHE WENT ON TO SAY THE PRESIDENT

HAS NOT SPOKE WITH

ATTORNEY GENERAL ABOUT HAVING

UKRAINE INVESTIGATE ANYTHING

RELATED TO FORMER VICE PRESIDENT

BIDEN OR HIS SON.

THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT ASKED THE

ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CONTACT

UKRAINE ON THIS OR ANY OTHER

MATTER.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS NOT

COMMUNICATED WITH UKRAINE OR

DISCUSS THE MATTER OR ANYTHING

RELATED TO UKRAINE WITH RUDY

GIULIANI.

THAT IS A REPEAT, ACTUALLY

OF SEPTEMBER 25TH STATEMENT.

BUT APPARENTLY, NANCY PELOSI HAS

A LOT MORE CREDENCE IN LEV

PARNAS WHO IS FACING TRIAL.

AND THE STATEMENT OF THE

ATTORNMENT

ATTORNEYNT

ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE

UNITED STATES.

>> CONTRAST WHAT BILL BARR,

WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR NOT, NOT

HAVING TO LIKE HIM A LOT BECAUSE

REALLY, A REALLY GOOD REPUTATION

AND NOT CURLING UNDER A DIAMOND

EITHER BY THE WAY.

CONTRAST WITH WHAT LEV PARNAS

SAID AND EVEN IN THE INTERVIEW

HE STARTS OFF WITH ABSOLUTE

CERTITUDE.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING OUT OF

HIS MOUTH, WELL, HE HAD TO, AND

THE THIRD THING OUT OF HIS MOUTH

IS PROBABLY.

HE REGRESSES THREE STAGES IN THE

COURSE OF THE SAME ANSWER FROM

ABSOLUTE CERTITUDE TO PROBABLY.

YOU ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GET A

CONVICTION OR APPOINTMENT OF

SPECIAL COUNSEL BASED ON WHAT

SOMEONE UNDER FEDERAL INDICTMENT

WITH A MOTIVE TO LIE THINGS AS

POSSIBLE.

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

>> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU

THIS.

THIS EVIDENCES SORT OF TRICKLING

OUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE

SENATE TRIAL ON ALL OF THIS.

AND WE HEARD ADAM SCHIFF WHO WE

HAVE HEARD BEFORE SAY THERE IS

WAY MORE THAN PEOPLE KNOW.

AND HE SAID, WELL, THIS IS JUST

PART OF IT.

WE ARE EXPECTING A LOT MORE OF

THIS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK LEV PARNAS IS

HOPING TO SAVE HIMSELF FROM BY

SPEAKING OUT AT THIS POINT?

IS HE DOING HIMSELF ANY FAVORS

AS HE ENTERS THE LEGAL PROCESS

HERE?

>> HE HAS NOT.

SECOND THING, MICHAEL: WENT

BEFORE HOUSE COMMITTEE AND ONCE

WHAT'S CALLED A 5K1.1 OR RULE

FIVE'S IN A PRODUCTION AND

THAT'S THE SAME THING LEV PARNAS

WANTS, HE WANTS CREDIT FOR

COOPERATING.

>> Martha: BUT ISN'T THAT IN

FRONT OF A CAMERA?

>> THEY DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU

COOPERATE ON MSNBC OR SOMEONE

OBJECTIVE OR CENTERED CAN

ACTUALLY USE THE INFORMATION FOR

SOMETHING OTHER THAN EXPEDIENCY.

SO NO, IT WILL NOT WORK.

YOU ARE ASKING WHY IS HE DOING

IT?

HAIL MARY AND NOBODY THERE TO

CATCH HIM.

>> Martha: SO WITH REGARD TO

WHAT I MENTIONED IN THE

BEGINNING, THE STORY THAT A SORT

OF COMING OUT FROM

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT THERE

IS ANOTHER INVESTIGATION INTO

JIM COMEY LEAKING AND IT'S

COMING FROM THE DOJ.

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" HAS THIS

HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO AND

FOLLOWED UP ON RIGHT AWAY AND

POLITICAL MOTIVATION BY ANY

THOUGHTS ON THAT COMET

TREY GOWDY?

>> MARTHA, I'M NOT A FAN OF

JIM COMEY BUT I AM OF BEING

FAIR.

I KNOW THAT FACT PATTERN

REFERENCED IN THIS STORY.

JIM COMEY WAS ASKED BEHIND

CLOSED DOORS IN A CLASSIFIED

SETTING TO ADDRESS IT, AND HE

WOULD NOT DO IT.

HIS RESPONSE WAS, IT WAS SO

HIGHLY CLASSIFIED, HE WAS NOT

EVEN GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WHO

WERE CLEAR TO HEAR IT IN A

CLASSIFIED SETTING.

SO LET THE RECORD BE CLEAR, I'M

NOT A FAN OF JIM COMEY, BUT I AM

A FAN TO BEING FAIR TO PEOPLE.

I'M NOT GOING TO INDICT HIM OR

CONVICT HIM BASED ON A

REPORTING.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM ON THIS

VERY FACT PATTERN AND THE

SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE, HE WOULD

NOT ADDRESS IT IN A SETTING