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  • >> THE EMPHASIS IS ON

  • LITIGATORS.

  • THE EMPHASIS IS ON COMFORT LEVEL

  • IN THE COURTROOM.

  • THE EMPHASIS IS MAKING THE

  • STRONGEST POSSIBLE CASE TO

  • PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR

  • CONSTITUTION, TO SEEK THE TRUTH

  • FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

  • >> Bill: HOUSE DEMOCRATS, YOU

  • HEARD IT LAST HOUR, MOVING

  • FORWARD NOW.

  • FOUR WEEKS LATER AFTER THE

  • IMPEACHMENT VOTE WAS PASSED IN

  • THE HOUSE.

  • THIS, AS WE LEARN NOW, THE

  • MANAGERS FOR THE CASE, SEVEN

  • CONGRESS MEMBERS FROM THE

  • DEMOCRATIC SIDE WILL SERVE AS

  • MANAGING THE

  • MANAGENG THE

  • MANAGERS THE

  • MANAGERS IHE

  • MANAGERS INE

  • MANAGERS IN THE SENATE.

  • KEN STARR, HAPPY NEW YEAR TWO.

  • A WAY TO GO NOW.

  • FIRST OF ALL, YOUR OBSERVATION

  • OF THE SEVEN THAT WERE CHOSEN,

  • AND NAMED LAST HOUR?

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT, IF

  • MUCH?

  • >> I THINK THE SPEAKER CHOSE

  • WELL AND WISELY.

  • OTHER THAN I HAVE SOME

  • RESERVATIONS ABOUT JERRY NADLER

  • IN TERMS OF HIS COURTROOM

  • ABILITIES.

  • HE IS JUST TENDING TO BE, AS HE

  • WAS IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE,

  • JUST OVER THE TOP.

  • HE ALSO SAID EVERYTHING IS

  • ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.

  • SO THERE'S AN INCOHERENCE IN

  • JERRY NADLER'S APPROACH TO

  • THINGS.

  • BUT WE NOW HAVE THE FIELD

  • MARSHALS, THE GENERALS.

  • THAT REPORTING INTO THEIR

  • COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THE SPEAKER.

  • SHE IS GOING TO, I THINK,

  • CONTINUE TO BE GUIDING THIS

  • PROCESS.

  • WHICH IS, ABOVE ALL, ALL ABOUT

  • WITNESSES ON THE SENATE SIDE.

  • I THINK SHE HAS CHOSEN WELL AND

  • WISELY.

  • >> Bill: WHAT ADAM SCHIFF SAID

  • A MOMENT AGO, HE REFLECTED ON

  • YOUR TIME, 20, 21 YEARS AGO.

  • HE WAS ADDRESSING A QUESTION

  • ABOUT WITNESSES.

  • HE WAS SAYING THAT THIS TIME

  • AROUND IT'S NOT ABOUT SEX OR

  • UNSEEMLY MATTERS.

  • THE INFERENCE THAT HE APPLIED

  • THERE.

  • MY QUESTION TO YOU, AS A MATTER

  • OF LAW, AS A PROSECUTOR OR A

  • TRIAL MANAGER, YOU DON'T GET TO

  • PICK YOUR FACTS.

  • THE CASE IS WHAT IT IS.

  • WAS YOUR FEELING ON THE COMMENT

  • HE MADE THERE AS TO WHETHER OR

  • NOT WE WILL SEE WITNESSES?

  • DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN OR

  • NOT?

  • >> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN,

  • BECAUSE I THINK THE SENATE

  • MAJORITY LEADER IS FOLLOWING THE

  • CLINTON MODEL.

  • THERE IS A HUGE QUESTION -- WILL

  • THERE BE WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE

  • IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS DURING THE

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DIFFERENTLY

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESFERENTLY

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERENTLY

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERANTLY

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYW

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYN

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYE

  • CLINTON IMPEACHMENT DESPERATELYD

  • TO CALL WITNESSES.

  • THEY WERE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO

  • DO THAT.

  • THEY WERE ABLE

  • TO TAKE.

  • THE CENTERS AGREED YEARS AGO,

  • "WE DON'T WANT ANY LIVE

  • WITNESSES, LET'S HAVE THE

  • MANAGERS MAKE THEIR CASE.

  • THEN THEY WILL VOTE TO HAVE WITH

  • THEN THEY WILL VOTE WHETHER TO

  • HAVE WITNESSES AT ALL.

  • PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO.

  • WE WILL HEAR THE DRUM BEAT.

  • WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WITNESSES.

  • BY THE WAY, THE WITNESSES CANNOT

  • INCLUDE THE BIDENS.

  • THAT'S JUST OUT.

  • WE WANT OUR WITNESSES BUT WE

  • DON'T WANT THE PRESIDENT TO --

  • >> Bill: SO BETWEEN PHASE ONE

  • AND PHASE TWO, WHAT IS YOUR

  • GUEST?

  • DO YOU HAVE WITNESSES IN THIS

  • TRIAL ARE NOT?

  • IF THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU GOT A

  • SHORT CASE HERE.

  • >> YOU DO.

  • THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PRESSURE

  • ON THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS TO

  • PERFORM WELL.

  • IF THEY OVERPLAYED THEIR HAND

  • THE WAY JERRY NADLER JUST DID,

  • "WE'VE ALREADY PROVEN THE CASE,"

  • IF YOU'VE PROVEN THE CASE YOU

  • DON'T NEED TO RETRY THE CASE.

  • THAT IS PRECISELY THE APPROACH

  • FROM 21 YEARS AGO.

  • WE DON'T NEED IT.

  • 100 SENATORS SAYING WE DON'T

  • NEED IT, WE DON'T WANT IT.

  • THESE ARE REPUBLICANS AND

  • DEMOCRATS COMPLETELY AGREEING.

  • THAT WILL BE A REAL KEY.

  • CAN YOU PROVE THIS IS VERY

  • SERIOUS?

  • BUT WE REALLY NEED THESE

  • WITNESSES EVEN THOUGH

  • JERRY NADLER SAYS WE PROVED

  • BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

  • >> Bill: LET ME GET TWO MORE

  • POINTS IN THE 2 MINUTES I HAVE

  • LEFT.

  • IF THAT'S THE CASE THAT YOU ARE

  • RIGHT ABOUT THE OUTCOME THEY

  • DON'T BRING WITNESSES AND BOTH

  • SIDES AGREE TO THAT AFTER A LOT

  • OF DEBATE BACK AND FORTH, THEN

  • YOU CAN VOTE ON THE ARTICLES AT

  • THAT POINT, COULD YOU NOT?

  • >> ABSOLUTELY.

  • THAT WILL BE IT.

  • YOU THEN HAVE THE CLOSING

  • ARGUMENTS ON EACH SIDE.

  • BUT YOU ASKED ME TO PROTECT -- I

  • PREDICT THERE WILL BE WITNESSES.

  • WE HAVE HAD TOO MANY INDICATIONS

  • FROM TOO MANY DIFFERENT SENATORS

  • THAT THEY WANT THIS.

  • REMEMBER, AND CLINTON THERE WERE

  • 100 SENATORS AGREEING ON THE

  • PROCESS.

  • HERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF

  • UNANIMITY.

  • >> Bill: WHO WAS A WITNESS,

  • THEN?

  • WHO APPEARS?

  • >> I THINK THE TOP ONE IS

  • JOHN BOLTON FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

  • AND THE REPUBLICANS REALLY DO

  • WANT HUNTER BIDEN.

  • >> Bill: SO YOU THINK 11?

  • >> THERE WILL BE A BETTER ROI

  • OLIVER HUNTER BIDEN.

  • WE ALREADY SAW IT THIS.

  • THIS WILL COME DOWN TO THE CHIEF

  • JUSTICE.

  • THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SENATE AND