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>>> THINK ABOUT THIS.
>>> THINK ABOUT THIS. THERE'S ONE THING THAT TUCKER
THERE'S ONE THING THAT TUCKER CARLSON, BERNIE ROSE AND WALL
CARLSON, BERNIE ROSE AND WALL STREET CEOs HAVE IN COMMON.
STREET CEOs HAVE IN COMMON. THIS ELECTION.
THIS ELECTION. ACROSS THE ELECTION ONE THING.
ACROSS THE ELECTION ONE THING. ANDREW YANG.
ANDREW YANG. AS LIZ PLANK PUTS IT IN THE NEW
AS LIZ PLANK PUTS IT IN THE NEW PIECE FOR NBC THINK, THIS IN
PIECE FOR NBC THINK, THIS IN PART BECAUSE YANG'S MESSAGE IS
PART BECAUSE YANG'S MESSAGE IS RESONATING WITH MEN WHO FEEL
RESONATING WITH MEN WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN NOT ONLY BY THE
FORGOTTEN NOT ONLY BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT BY SOCIETY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT BY SOCIETY AT LARGE AND HIS MESSAGE IS
AT LARGE AND HIS MESSAGE IS RESONATING WITH VOTERS IN IOWA.
RESONATING WITH VOTERS IN IOWA. THIS PHOTO FROM LAST NIGHT
THIS PHOTO FROM LAST NIGHT CAPTURES THE BIGGEST IOWA DEBATE
CAPTURES THE BIGGEST IOWA DEBATE THAT TOOK PLACE IN DES MOINES.
THAT TOOK PLACE IN DES MOINES. JOINING ME TO DISCUSS THE AUTHOR
JOINING ME TO DISCUSS THE AUTHOR OF THE THINK PIECE AND THE VOTE
OF THE THINK PIECE AND THE VOTE FOR "THE LOVE OF MEN" AND ROBERT
FOR "THE LOVE OF MEN" AND ROBERT COSTA IS BACK WITH ME.
COSTA IS BACK WITH ME. LIZ YOU SAID HE'S RESONATING
LIZ YOU SAID HE'S RESONATING WITH GUYS WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN.
WITH GUYS WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN. WHY?
WHY? >> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF
>> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I WROTE THIS PIECE.
THE REASONS I WROTE THIS PIECE. I STARTED TO SEE DIFFERENT MEN
I STARTED TO SEE DIFFERENT MEN WITH DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES.
WITH DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES. ALL HAVING THIS YANG, YOU KNOW,
ALL HAVING THIS YANG, YOU KNOW, SHAPED HOLE IN THEIR HEART.
SHAPED HOLE IN THEIR HEART. ONE THING THAT I THINK HE'S
ONE THING THAT I THINK HE'S REALLY TAPPING INTO AND ONE
REALLY TAPPING INTO AND ONE THING I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK
THING I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A MAN
WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A MAN CRISIS.
CRISIS. THERE'S A DEFINITIONAL PROVIDE.
THERE'S A DEFINITIONAL PROVIDE. THEY WANT TO BE PROVIDERS BUT IN
THEY WANT TO BE PROVIDERS BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS OUR ECONOMY AND
A LOT OF WAYS OUR ECONOMY AND OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM MAKES IT
OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO DEFINE
HARDER FOR THEM TO DEFINE THEMSELVES IN THOSE WAYS AND
THEMSELVES IN THOSE WAYS AND YANG IS OFTEN ABLE TO TAP INTO
YANG IS OFTEN ABLE TO TAP INTO THE MALE PAIN.
THE MALE PAIN. HE CONNECTS MALE PAIN SOME OF
HE CONNECTS MALE PAIN SOME OF THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN OUR
THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN OUR SOCIETY.
SOCIETY. HE CONNECTS IT TO RISING LEVELS
HE CONNECTS IT TO RISING LEVELS OF SUICIDE, HE CONNECTS IT TO
OF SUICIDE, HE CONNECTS IT TO THE RISE OF ONLINE RATE GROUPS
THE RISE OF ONLINE RATE GROUPS AND TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE SEE TRUMP ACTUALLY
WE SEE TRUMP ACTUALLY WEAPONIZING MALE PAIN AND PROFIT
WEAPONIZING MALE PAIN AND PROFIT OFF OF THAT.
OFF OF THAT. BUT ANDREW YANG INSTEAD OF
BUT ANDREW YANG INSTEAD OF OFFERING MEN A COMMON ENEMY AS
OFFERING MEN A COMMON ENEMY AS YOUR PREVIOUS GUEST WAS TALKING
YOUR PREVIOUS GUEST WAS TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT COMES, YOU
ABOUT WHETHER IT COMES, YOU KNOW, TO IMMIGRANTS OR WHETHER
KNOW, TO IMMIGRANTS OR WHETHER IT'S WOMEN, ANDREW YANG IS
IT'S WOMEN, ANDREW YANG IS OFFERING MEN A SOLUTION.
OFFERING MEN A SOLUTION. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WHETHER ANDREW YANG MAKES
THINK WHETHER ANDREW YANG MAKES IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE SOMETHING
IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE SOMETHING THAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD TAKE
THAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD TAKE LITERALLY AND SERIOUSLY.
LITERALLY AND SERIOUSLY. >> THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK TO
>> THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK TO THIS BASE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THIS BASE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE WAS ABLE TO RALLY THEM IN
HE WAS ABLE TO RALLY THEM IN 2016.
2016. COULD ANDREW YANG OF ALL PEOPLE
COULD ANDREW YANG OF ALL PEOPLE BE THE GUY TO RALLY THESE VOTERS
BE THE GUY TO RALLY THESE VOTERS OR PULL THEM FROM PRESIDENT
OR PULL THEM FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP MAKING HIM A VIABLE
TRUMP MAKING HIM A VIABLE CANDIDATE TO TAKE HIM ON?
CANDIDATE TO TAKE HIM ON? >> ANDREW YANG'S MESSAGE ON THE
>> ANDREW YANG'S MESSAGE ON THE ECONOMY IS UNIVERSAL BASIC
ECONOMY IS UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
INCOME. AND HE'S NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY
AND HE'S NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY IN A POLITICAL SENSE.
IN A POLITICAL SENSE. JUST TO MEN.
JUST TO MEN. BUT HE'S SPEAKING TO THOSE WHO
BUT HE'S SPEAKING TO THOSE WHO ARE IN INDUSTRIES OR SECTORS
ARE IN INDUSTRIES OR SECTORS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY FEATURING
THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY FEATURING MEN SUCH AS TRUCK DRIVERS, FOR
MEN SUCH AS TRUCK DRIVERS, FOR EXAMPLE.
EXAMPLE. HE TALKS OFTEN AN THE CAMPAIGN
HE TALKS OFTEN AN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE
TRAIL HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING AUTOMATED OUT OF THE JOBS
BEING AUTOMATED OUT OF THE JOBS AND THAT INDUSTRY IS POPULATED
AND THAT INDUSTRY IS POPULATED BY MALES WHO ARE DRIVING TRUCKS
BY MALES WHO ARE DRIVING TRUCKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HE'S
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HE'S SPEAKING TO THEIR GRIEVANCES
SPEAKING TO THEIR GRIEVANCES ABOUT FEELING LEFT OUT AND IN AN
ABOUT FEELING LEFT OUT AND IN AN ECONOMY THAT'S MOVING MORE
ECONOMY THAT'S MOVING MORE TOWARD AUTOMATION AND TO LIZ'S
TOWARD AUTOMATION AND TO LIZ'S POINT MANY OF THE SECTORS,
POINT MANY OF THE SECTORS, INDUSTRIAL SECTORS THAT DO FEEL
INDUSTRIAL SECTORS THAT DO FEEL THE FORCE OF AUTOMATION OFTEN DO
THE FORCE OF AUTOMATION OFTEN DO FEATURE MEN WHO ARE UNHAPPY
FEATURE MEN WHO ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED
ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED BUT IT'S NOT A UNIVERSALLY MALE
BUT IT'S NOT A UNIVERSALLY MALE ISSUE HERE.
ISSUE HERE. WOMEN IN MANY SECTORS ARE
WOMEN IN MANY SECTORS ARE FEELING LIKE THEIR JOBS ARE
FEELING LIKE THEIR JOBS ARE BEING LOST TO AUTOMATION.
BEING LOST TO AUTOMATION. WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ANDREW YANG HE
WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ANDREW YANG HE SPEAKS TO THEM AS WELL.
SPEAKS TO THEM AS WELL. >> IF HE SPEAKS TO THOSE PEOPLE
>> IF HE SPEAKS TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING I'M FED UP, I
WHO ARE SAYING I'M FED UP, I WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF THE
WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS A MORE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS A MORE TRADITIONAL CANDIDATE LIKE A JOE
TRADITIONAL CANDIDATE LIKE A JOE BIDEN DOES ANDREW YANG MAKE A
BIDEN DOES ANDREW YANG MAKE A VIABLE VP OPTION SINCE HE'S
VIABLE VP OPTION SINCE HE'S MARKETING TO VOTERS SAYING I
MARKETING TO VOTERS SAYING I DON'T WANT THE SAME THING?
DON'T WANT THE SAME THING? >> YANG POLITICALLY YOU COULD
>> YANG POLITICALLY YOU COULD SAY HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH SENATOR
SAY HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.
BERNIE SANDERS. EVEN SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN
EVEN SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND OTHERS WHO ARE SPEAKING TO A
AND OTHERS WHO ARE SPEAKING TO A LARGER FEDERAL ROLL IN THE
LARGER FEDERAL ROLL IN THE WORKFORCE WHETHER IT COMES TO
WORKFORCE WHETHER IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE OR PROVIDING
HEALTH CARE OR PROVIDING UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. THERE'S A MOVEMENT IN THE
THERE'S A MOVEMENT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HELP PEOPLE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.
OUT. >> LIZ, WHETHER OR NOT ANDREW
>> LIZ, WHETHER OR NOT ANDREW YANG STAYS IN THE RACE, WHAT
YANG STAYS IN THE RACE, WHAT COULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEARN
COULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEARN FROM HIM?
FROM HIM? >> I THINK ANDREW YANG
>> I THINK ANDREW YANG UNDERSTANDS WHAT A LOT OF
UNDERSTANDS WHAT A LOT OF PROGRESSIVES UNDERSTAND WHICH IS
PROGRESSIVES UNDERSTAND WHICH IS THAT THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT
THAT THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULDN'T BE A SPEAK EASY BUT A
SHOULDN'T BE A SPEAK EASY BUT A BLOCK PARTY.
BLOCK PARTY. EVERYONE IS WELCOME.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME. YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF
YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF THE TERMS, KNOW EXACTLY, YOU
THE TERMS, KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT DRESS CODE
KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT DRESS CODE THAT'S REALLY A PARTY OPEN TO
THAT'S REALLY A PARTY OPEN TO EVERYBODY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT
EVERYBODY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT IT'S A PARTY THAT'S OPEN TO MEN.
IT'S A PARTY THAT'S OPEN TO MEN. WE DON'T JUST TOLERATE MEN.
WE DON'T JUST TOLERATE MEN. WE CELEBRATE THEM.
WE CELEBRATE THEM. WE DON'T JUST UNDERSTAND THE
WE DON'T JUST UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF, YOU KNOW, WOMEN AND
PAIN OF, YOU KNOW, WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
PEOPLE OF COLOR. WE UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF
WE UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF EVERYONE.
EVERYONE. WE DON'T RANK THAT PAIN.
WE DON'T RANK THAT PAIN. WE SEE THAT PAIN IS LINKED.
WE SEE THAT PAIN IS LINKED. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR THE
THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT TO
PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT TO UNDERSTAND A MUCH MORE NUANCED
UNDERSTAND A MUCH MORE NUANCED VIEW OF I THINK FEMINISM AND
VIEW OF I THINK FEMINISM AND GENDER EQUALITY WHICH IS NOT
GENDER EQUALITY WHICH IS NOT JUST THE FUTURE OF FEMALE WHICH