LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL

PROMISING SOELGTS COORDINATION

WITH THE WHITE HOUSE ON

IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.

LISA MURCOWSKI SAID SHE IS

DISTURBED BY THAT STRATEGY.

NOW I'M JOINED BY THE AUTHOR,

THE REAL STORY OF TRUMP'S

PRESIDENCY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.

I KNOW YOU ARE AN HISTORIAN.

WE'LL LOOK AHEAD A LITTLE BIT

HERE AS WE'RE WAITING THE SEE

WHEN THE TRIAL WOULD HAPPEN,

JANUARY, FEBRUARY?

THAT CAN MEAN A LOT FOR 2020.

WE SHALL SEE.

STICKING TO SENATOR MURCOWSKI

TO KICK THINGS OFF.

WHAT SHE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT

IN THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE

AFFECTING OF THE PROCESS.

SHE IS CONCERNED THIS WILL

FURTHER CONFUSE THE PROCESS.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON HER OPINION,

POTENTIALLY AFFECTING THE

PROCESS REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE

TO SEE.

COULD SHE THROW A WRENCH IN

MCCONNELL'S PLAN FOR A QUICK

TRIAL?

>> WELL, I THINK THIS IS

SENATOR MURCOWSKI SIGNALING WHO

SHE IS.

SHE IS AN ESTABLISHMENT

REPUBLICAN.

DON'T FORGET US.

THE POWERFUL LOBBIES HAVE TO

MAKE SURE SHE IS STILL THERE IN

PLACE AND SHE IS.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING

ANYWHERE.

IT IS CERTAINLY NOT OUTRAGEOUS

FOR SENATOR MCCONNELL TO PRESS

THIS AS A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE

THE IMPEACHMENT WAS 100% --

100% DEMOCRATIC.

THEY DIDN'T TAKE A BREATH.

TWO YEARS OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION,

TWO MONTHS OF BRIBERY, NEVER

TOOK A BREATH AND SAID WE WERE

WRONG ABOUT THAT, TOO.

THEY GO RIGHT INTO THIS

IMPEACHMENT ON OBSTRUCTION OF

CONGRESS WHICH SHOULD BE PRETTY

EASY TO PROVE.

WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS GOING

TO DO?

IF THEY DIDN'T UNITE BEHIND THE

PRESIDENT THERE WOULD BE A LOT

OF REPUBLICANS ANGRY.

>> Molly: HE SAID HE PREDICTS

THE PARTISAN OUTCOME.

YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

SENATOR MU KOWSKI, NOT AFRAID

TO BUCK THE SISTER.

SHE VOTED AGAINST THE KAVANAUGH

NOMINATION.

AMONG A SMALL GROUP OF SENATORS

THAT PREVENTED THE REPEAL OF

OBAMACARE.

THE WRANGLING THAT WILL GO ON

BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND

REPUBLICANS IS ABOUT THE RULES.

AND DEMOCRATS WANT TO SEE

WITNESSES.

THEY WANT TO SEE DOCUMENTS.

MCCONNELL WANTS TO GET IT OVER

WITH QUICKLY.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM HAS

CALLED IT A DEAD CAT.

SO COULD SHE OR OTHER ALLIES,

SENATOR SUSAN COLLINS, MITT

ROMNEY, COULD THEY THROW A

WRENCH IN THINGS AS FAR AS THE

LENGTH OF THIS TRIAL?

WITNESSES, DOCUMENTS?

>> MOLLY, YOU ARE ON TO

SOMETHING THERE.

IT COULD VERY WELL HAPPEN.

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHETHER

THAT WOULD BE TO THEIR

ADVANTAGE OR NOT.

IN FACT, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE

WHO ARGUE IT WOULD BE TO THEIR

DISADVANTAGE.

THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO LINGER

OR DON'T WANT TO HAVE JOE BIDEN

FORCED TO COME AND TESTIFY AND

HUNTER BIDEN.

THEY DON'T WANT IT TO GO ON.

IT COULD BACKFIRE.

SO FAR NOT WORKING THE WAY THE

DEMOCRATS WANT.

THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT.

AS FAR AS RUSSIAN COLLUSION I

HAVE TO TELL YOU IN MY BOOK

THERE IS A GREAT STORY IN THERE.

THE TRUMP KIDS ARE TRAVELING

ALL OVER THE WORLD, HEADS OF

STATE ARE PULLING THEM ASIDE IN

2017 AND THEY'RE SAYING PLEASE

TELL YOUR FATHER HOW SORRY WE

ARE ABOUT THIS RUSSIAN

COLLUSION NONSENSE.

SO THERE YOU GO.

IF YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF

CHINA OR PRESIDENT OF FRANCE,

YOU CAN'T WAIT TWO YEARS FOR

THE MUELLER REPORT.

YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SECRET

SERVICE.

120 INTELLIGENCE SERVICES IN

THE WORLD.

EVERYONE OF THEM CHECKED IT OUT.

THEY KNEW WITHIN 24 HOURS IT

WAS A BOGUS STORY.

THE FUTURE OF THEIR COUNTRY

DEPENDED ON KNOWING THAT.

THIS IS KIND OF LINGERED ON A

LITTLE TOO LONG.

>> Molly: THE PRESIDENT HAS

RAISED SOME OF THOSE POINTS

TALKING ABOUT UNFAIRNESS OVER

THE COURSE OF ALL OF THIS.

AS WE LOOK TOWARD THESE

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT BEING

HELD HERE WE'RE SEEING THEM IN

JANUARY OR LEAK INTO FEBRUARY?

IF YOU COULD LOOK AT A SENATE

TRIAL GOING ON.

THE DEMOCRATS ARE BATTLING IT

OUT IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE?

>> YEAH, AND FOR THE

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

RIGHT NOW IF I WERE ADVISING

THE DEMOCRATS I WOULD SAY

YOU'VE GOT TO GET A CANDIDATE.

YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOME TALKING

POINTS THAT ARE UNIFORM.

YOU CAN'T ONE DAY BE FOR THE

CONSTITUTION AND THE NEXT DAY

WANT TO GUT THE CONSTITUTION.

YOU'VE GOT TO AT LEAST GET A

BRAND, GET A SLOGAN, GET

SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN UNIFY

BEHIND.

STAND FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN

JUST HATING DONALD TRUMP.

HATE WON'T WIN THE ELECTION.

SOMETHING ELSE IS NEEDED.

>> Molly: WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FUN TO READ YOUR NEXT BOOK.