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REPUBLICAN CHUCK GRASSLEY, HERE'S WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THE
HERE'S WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THE UPCOMING TRIAL AND IMPARTIAL
UPCOMING TRIAL AND IMPARTIAL JURORS.
JURORS. >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE SENATE
>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE SENATE TRIAL, SENATOR GRASSLEY, YOU
TRIAL, SENATOR GRASSLEY, YOU SAID YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AS AN
SAID YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AS AN IMPARTIAL JUROR IN THIS PROCESS.
IMPARTIAL JUROR IN THIS PROCESS. IS THAT STILL WHERE YOU STAND?
IS THAT STILL WHERE YOU STAND? >> YES.
>> YES. IF YOU WOULD READ WHAT I SAID IN
IF YOU WOULD READ WHAT I SAID IN 1999, YOU'D SAY EXACTLY THE SAME
1999, YOU'D SAY EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
THING. I SEE MY ROLE AS EXACTLY THE
I SEE MY ROLE AS EXACTLY THE SAME.
SAME. LISTEN TO PROSECUTION AND LISTEN
LISTEN TO PROSECUTION AND LISTEN TO DEFENSE, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE
TO DEFENSE, WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO
DONE AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE AT THAT POINT.
DECIDE AT THAT POINT. I THINK CONSTITUTIONALLY, I
I THINK CONSTITUTIONALLY, I SHOULD SEE MYSELF AS A JUROR,
SHOULD SEE MYSELF AS A JUROR, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAY, YOU'RE
EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE SAY, YOU'RE JUDGE AND JURY IN THE SENATE.
JUDGE AND JURY IN THE SENATE. I SEE IT THIS WAY.
I SEE IT THIS WAY. LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE AND SAY
LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE AND SAY GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, JUST LIKE
GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A
YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A CRIMINAL CASE.
CRIMINAL CASE. >> SINCE YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE THAT
>> SINCE YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE THAT WAY, DO YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH THE
WAY, DO YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH THE COMMENTS MITCH McCONNELL MADE
COMMENTS MITCH McCONNELL MADE THAT MORNING HOW HE DOESN'T SEE
THAT MORNING HOW HE DOESN'T SEE HIMSELF AS AN IMPARTIAL JUROR IN
HIMSELF AS AN IMPARTIAL JUROR IN THIS PROCESS?
THIS PROCESS? >> I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAVE 100
>> I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAVE 100 SENATORS AND 100 POINTS OF VIEW
SENATORS AND 100 POINTS OF VIEW ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE.
ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE. >> SENATOR DURBIN, WHAT WOULD A
>> SENATOR DURBIN, WHAT WOULD A FAIR SENATE TRIAL LOOK LIKE TO
FAIR SENATE TRIAL LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
YOU? >> BEFORE I CAME TO THE
>> BEFORE I CAME TO THE CONGRESS, I WAS A TRIAL LAWYER.
CONGRESS, I WAS A TRIAL LAWYER. I KNOW WHAT A TRIAL LOOKS LIKE.
I KNOW WHAT A TRIAL LOOKS LIKE. THERE IS A JUDGE AND A JURY.
THERE IS A JUDGE AND A JURY. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AS
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AS SENATOR GRASSLEY MENTIONED AND
SENATOR GRASSLEY MENTIONED AND PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE TO BE
PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE PROSECUTION
CONSIDERED BY THE PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE.
AND DEFENSE. I KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE IS, MOST
I KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE IS, MOST PEOPLE DO.
PEOPLE DO. BY AND LARGE DOCUMENTATION OF
BY AND LARGE DOCUMENTATION OF MATERIAL AND TESTIMONY BY
MATERIAL AND TESTIMONY BY INDIVIDUAL OR DEPOSITION.
INDIVIDUAL OR DEPOSITION. YOU GATHER THAT EVIDENCE AND
YOU GATHER THAT EVIDENCE AND REACH THE BEST CONCLUSION YOU
REACH THE BEST CONCLUSION YOU CAN, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE.
CAN, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE. I HOPE WE HAVE A HEARING THAT
I HOPE WE HAVE A HEARING THAT BRINGS FACTS BEFORE US WE CAN
BRINGS FACTS BEFORE US WE CAN CONSIDER AND WITNESSES WE CAN
CONSIDER AND WITNESSES WE CAN JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE
JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE TRUTHFUL OR NOT IN OUR OWN
TRUTHFUL OR NOT IN OUR OWN ESTIMATION.
ESTIMATION. THAT'S A REAL TRIAL.
THAT'S A REAL TRIAL. I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO
I THINK PEOPLE WANT US TO RESPECT ONE ANOTHER AND WANT US
RESPECT ONE ANOTHER AND WANT US TO RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION AND
TO RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS TRIAL IS
WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS TRIAL IS RESPECTFUL AS WELL.
RESPECTFUL AS WELL. >> IS YOUR MIND MADE UP?
>> IS YOUR MIND MADE UP? >> OF COURSE, I THINK IT GOES
>> OF COURSE, I THINK IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING EACH OF US IS
WITHOUT SAYING EACH OF US IS LEANING IN ONE DIRECTION OR
LEANING IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER BASED ON OUR OWN VIEWS
ANOTHER BASED ON OUR OWN VIEWS AT THIS POINT OR POLITICS OF THE
AT THIS POINT OR POLITICS OF THE MOMENT.
MOMENT. BUT WHEN WE RAISE OUR HAND AND
BUT WHEN WE RAISE OUR HAND AND SAY WE SWEAR TO STAND BY
SAY WE SWEAR TO STAND BY IMPARTIAL JUSTICE SO HELP ME
IMPARTIAL JUSTICE SO HELP ME GOD, IT MEANS WE HAVE TO OPEN
GOD, IT MEANS WE HAVE TO OPEN OUR EARS AND HEAR BOTH SIDES OF
OUR EARS AND HEAR BOTH SIDES OF IT BEFORE WE REACH A CONCLUSION.
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