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  • >> WELL, CLEARLY NOT.

  • CONSIDERING THIS IS WHAT

  • HAPPENED.

  • ED: LET'S TURN TO IMPEACHMENT.

  • WANT TO START WITH YOU BECAUSE

  • YOU'VE BEEN UNDER FIRE, AS YOU

  • KNOW, IN RECENT DAYS WITH THE

  • CHAIRMAN WHO YOU DON'T GET ALONG

  • WITH.

  • ADAM SCHIFF SORT OF DROPPED IN

  • THE REPORT THERE ARE PHONE

  • RECORDS SUGGESTING THAT YOU WERE

  • SPEAKING TO NOT JUST RUDY

  • GIULIANI, BUT ONE OF HIS

  • ASSOCIATES WHO'S NOW BEEN

  • INDICTED.

  • HAVE YOU CHECKED YOUR PHONE

  • RECORDS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT

  • WHAT THE CHAIRMAN IS ALLEGING IS

  • TRUE?

  • >> YEAH.

  • SO I'VE BEEN UNDER FIRE FOR

  • THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE CONTINUE

  • TO EXPOSE CORRUPTION, RIGHT?

  • WHETHER IT'S THE DEMOCRATS

  • UNMASKING TRUMP TRANSITION

  • OFFICIALS TO THEM FUNDING THE

  • DOSSIER THAT WAS USED TO -- THEY

  • GAVE IT TO THE FBI TO GET A FISA

  • WARRANT ON CARTER PAGE.

  • AND THEN, OF COURSE, OVER THE

  • TWO WEEKS BEFORE THANKSGIVING, I

  • THINK THEY WERE EMBARRASSED BY

  • THEIR LACK OF EVIDENCE THEY WERE

  • ABLE TO PRESENT THROUGH THE

  • HEARING.

  • IS SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THE

  • FRIDAY THANKSGIVING THIS FAKE

  • NEWS STORY DROPS ABOUT ME

  • SUPPOSEDLY BEING IN VIENNA, AND

  • THEN WE GET BACK FROM

  • THANKSGIVING AND, LO AND BEHOLD,

  • MY NAME -- ALONG WITH ONE OF MY

  • CURRENT TAFFE PEOPLE, I THINK

  • THIS IS IMPORTANT, AND A FORMER

  • STAFF PERSON -- ALL OF A SUDDEN

  • OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE VIOLATED

  • BECAUSE OUR PHONE RECORDS SHOW

  • UP IN THIS REPORT.

  • BUT I CAN TELL YOU I HAD, I WAS

  • BUSY ALL WEEK SO FINALLY

  • YESTERDAY I HAD A CHANCE TO GO

  • THROUGH ALL MY PHONE RECORDS,

  • AND I CAN TELL YOU MY PHONE

  • RECORDS DO NOT MATCH WHAT SCHIFF

  • AND THE DEMOCRATS PUT IN THAT

  • REPORT.

  • ED: SO YOU DID NOT TALK TO LEV

  • PARNAS, FOR EXAMPLE, AS MANY

  • FINALS AS THEY'RE ALLEGING?

  • >> WHAT I HAVE, I CAN TELL YOU

  • IT DOESN'T MATCH.

  • I HAVE ONE CALL WITH RUDY

  • GIULIANI IN APRIL, ONE IN MAY,

  • OKAY?

  • THE REST OF THE CALLS ARE EITHER

  • THEY DIDN'T CONNECT OR IT WAS A

  • VOICEMAIL, RIGHT?

  • SO ONE IN APRIL, ONE IN MAY.

  • I HAVE A CALL FROM SOMEBODY

  • NAMED -- I ASSUME IT'S PARNAS'

  • WIFE, BECAUSE IT'S REGISTERED TO

  • A LADY, INCOMING CALL TO MY

  • PHONE.

  • I WOULD DO WHAT I WOULD NORMALLY

  • DO IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU

  • DON'T RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY, YOU

  • DON'T KNOW SOMEBODY, YOU SAY

  • THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LET ME GET

  • YOU TO THE APPROPRIATE STAFF

  • PERSON.

  • ED: SO DID YOU EVER HAVE A

  • SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT

  • INFORMATION IN UKRAINE?

  • >> WELL, ANYTHING -- REMEMBER, I

  • DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME UNTIL

  • JUST IN THE LAST MONTH WHEN HE

  • WAS INDICTED BECAUSE I DIDN'T

  • KNOW WHO THIS PERSON WAS.

  • SO WE GET SO MANY CALLS ALL THE

  • TIME FROM RANDOM PEOPLE BECAUSE

  • WE'RE THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE,

  • RIGHT?

  • WE GET CALLS FROM AMERICANS,

  • CALLS FROM FORMERS.

  • I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING A

  • FEMALE VOICE.

  • SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER

  • A CALL, SOMEBODY I DIDN'T KNOW.

  • SAID, HEY, I'LL GET YOU TO THE

  • APPROPRIATE STAFF PERSON.

  • BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE

  • DIDN'T TALK ABOUT, OKAY?

  • I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NO

  • WAY I TALKED ABOUT ME BEING IN

  • VIENNA MEETING WITH RANDOM

  • UKRAINIANS.

  • THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, RIGHT?

  • SO I CAN TELL YOU WE DIDN'T TALK

  • ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T

  • HAPPEN.

  • SO I THINK THERE'S -- AND THE

  • OTHER ISSUE ABOUT PARNAS THAT WE

  • KNOW OF IS THAT THE ONLY PERSON

  • THAT'S BEEN TALKING TO PARNAS

  • ARE ADAM SCHIFF AND THE

  • DEMOCRATS.

  • I RECEIVED ONE CALL, LIKE I

  • SAID, WE RECEIVE CALLS ALL THE

  • TIME.

  • THEY'RE IN TOUCH WITH PARNAS ALL

  • THE TIME.

  • SO IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, THEY

  • NEED TO INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES.

  • PETE: ON THIS ISSUE SCHIFF AND

  • RUDY GIULIANI, A LOT OF PEOPLE

  • POINTING TO BASIC CIVIL

  • LIBERTIES.

  • NOT JUST MEMBERS OF CONGRESS,

  • BUT REPORTERS AND OTHERS, ANYONE

  • WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO

  • RUDY GIULIANI, NOW THEIR PHONE

  • RECORDS OUT THERE?

  • >> SO I BELIEVE I AM THE FIRST

  • MEMBER OF CONGRESS, AND I

  • BELIEVE MY STAFF AND FORMER

  • STAFF ARE THE FIRST ONES EVER TO

  • HAVE THEIR PHONE RECORDS EXPOSED

  • LIKE THIS.

  • SO WE'RE SITTING ON ROUGHLY 3500

  • PAGES OF METATODAY TAXER OF

  • PHONE -- METADATA, OF PHONE

  • RECORDS THAT THE DEMOCRATS

  • SUBPOENAED.

  • THEY STARTED DROPPING PHONE

  • NUMBERS IN AND SEARCHING, LET ME

  • SEE WHAT NUMBERS POP UP.

  • SO THE TRUTH IS TWO CALLS TO

  • RUDY GIULIANI AND ONE CALL WITH

  • A GUY THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW

  • SEEMS PRETTY ODD TO SAY THAT

  • THAT'S A CONSPIRACY, RIGHT?

  • AND THEN HE POPS ME IN THE

  • REPORT SAYING THAT I HAVE

  • SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS

  • AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH BEING

  • FIRED.

  • I ARE NEWS FOR THEM, I DIDN'T

  • KNOW WHO SHE WAS.

  • >> YOU GOING TO RELEASE YOUR

  • PHONE RECORDS --

  • >> WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO.

  • I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION

  • BETWEEN A, THE IF, THE -- AT&T,

  • HOUSE DEMOCRATS, VERIZON --

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> -- AND THE COURTS.

  • SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE

  • LEGAL ACTION HERE --

  • >> ARE YOU TAKING LEGAL ACTION

  • RIGHT NOW IN.

  • >> WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO

  • TAKE LEGAL ACTION.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> REMEMBER, THEY HAVE THE PHONE

  • RECORDS OF MANY JOURNALISTS, OF

  • MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, RIGHT?

  • RUDY GIULIANI -- I'M NOT THE

  • ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS RUDY

  • GIULIANI KNOWS.

  • SO THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE HERE

  • BECAUSE THOSE PHONE RECORDS ARE

  • DOWN THERE, AND AT ANY GIVEN

  • TIME IF THEY DON'T LIKE A

  • REPORTER OR A MEMBER OF

  • CONGRESS, THEY CAN GIN UP A

>> WELL, CLEARLY NOT.

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努內斯:"我的通話記錄與希夫、民主黨人在報告中所說的不符。我的通話記錄與希夫和民主黨人在報告中的說法不符 (Nunes: My phone records don't match what Schiff, Dems put in report)

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