UNDERSTAND THIS.

>> THAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN FROM

FLORIDA, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN

FRANCIS ROONEY MEMBER OF THE

HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.

A FRIEND OF THE SHOW WHO IS WITH

US NOW.

"THE WASHINGTON POST" CALLED

THIS A SMALL CRACK IN THE G.O.P.

FIREWALL, THE QUESTION IS ARE

THERE MORE REPUBLICANS TO FEEL

THE WAY YOU DO THAN ARE SAYING

IT?

>> I DON'T KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO

FIND OUT.

LELAND: ARE THEY TALKING TO YOU

OR TEXTING YOU?

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TALK

THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU

KNOW A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE

HAPPENED, SYRIA AND MULVANEY'S

COMMENTS THERE YESTERDAY ARE

PROBABLY GOING TO DRIVE SOME

PEOPLE TO RETHINK JUST A LITTLE

MORE.

I WAS SHOCKED AT THOSE.

LELAND: WHY DO YOU THINK THEY'RE

SO HESITANT TO SPEAK OUT IN THE

WAY THAT YOU HAVE IF THEY

BELIEVE THE SAME THING?

>> YOU KNOW, THAT GETS INTO THE

BIG PICTURE OF THIS WHOLE ENTIRE

JOB AND HOW IT'S SO STACKED

AGAINST TAKING RISK AND SO

DEPENDENT ON THE QUEST FOR

REELECTION AND RAISING MONEY AND

NOT WANTING TO OFFEND ANYBODY.

IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK, WHAT

THE FOUNDERS HAD IN MIND WHEN

THEY RISKED THEIR FORTUNES TO

START OUR COUNTRY.

LELAND: THEIR LIVES, THEIR

FORTUNE AND SACRED HONOR.

SPEAKING OF SACRED HONOR.

THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY THAT

EITHER MICK MULVANEY WAS LYING

NOW OR THE WHITE HOUSE IS LYING

THEN WHEN THEY SAID NO QUID PRO

QUO OR THERE'S NOT.

IS THIS A DEFINING MOMENT OR ONE

MORE DATA POINT.

>> LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY IT

CLEARS THINGS UP MORE THAN THEY

WERE BEFORE.

THE PRESIDENT WAS SAYING NO QUID

PRO QUO.

I WAS GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE

DOUBT AND HEARING THE TESTIMONY

FROM THE TESTIMONY, AND TURNS

OUT THERE WAS A CLEARER QUID PRO

QUO BY HIS CHIEF OF STAFF.

LELAND: ARE YOU MOVING TOWARDS

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A POINT OR

CLOSE ARE TOWARDS THIS IS JUST A

POLITICAL HUNT FOR THE

PRESIDENT'S HEAD?

>> NO, I THINK THAT MULVANEY

CLARIFIED, THERE IS A POINT

THERE, AND THE STUFF WE CONTINUE

TO HEAR MORE AND MORE ABOUT

GUILIANI AND RICK PERRY AND

STUFF CREATING SOME

NONPROFESSIONAL DIPLOMATIC

CHANNEL, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT

KIND OF STUFF AND WHEN I HEARD

THE DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS

LIKE DR. HILL AND GEORGE, THE

OTHER GUY, AND NOW WE'RE GOING

TO HEAR BILL TAYLOR NEXT WEEK, I

THINK THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE

DOING THEIR JOB.

LELAND: ARE THERE OTHER

REPUBLICANS WHO ARE PERHAPS

OPEN-MINDED TO COMING OVER TO

YOUR SIDE ON THIS, BUT AREN'T

SAYING IT RIGHT NOW?

>> I HOPE SO.

I HOPE SO.

LELAND: HAVE THEY SAID THAT TO

YOU?

IF THEY TALKED ABOUT THAT?

>> NOT IN SO MANY WORDS.

LELAND: YOU FEEL YOU'RE ON AN

ISLAND HERE?

>> I FELT LIKE I HAD BEEN ON AN

ISLAND.

WHEN PAUL RYAN COULDN'T PASS TO

PROTECT THE ISLAND OFF SHORE

DRILLING, AND WHEN I ASKED, SHE

DID.

LELAND: YOU CAME, AMBASSADOR TO

THE SEA, AND I WANT TO SERVE AND

THAT'S WHAT THE FOUNDERS

ENVISIONED YOU'VE BEEN HERE

SINCE 2017 CAME IN AS A FRESHMAN

IN JANUARY.

DO YOU NEED A THIRD TERM?

DO YOU WANT ONE?

>> I DON'T REALLY THINK I DO.

I DON'T REALLY THINK I WANT ONE.

I CAME HERE TO GET THE MONEY FOR

THE EVERGLADES PROJECTS

LANGUISHES ARE TO MANY YEARS AND

TO TRY TO GET THIS OFF SHORE

DRILLING BAN PASSED TO PROTECT

FLORIDA THAT JEB, AND THE

PRESIDENT GOT DONE IN 2006.

I THINK I SAID THREE TERMS, I

THINK LESS THAN TWO.

WE'VE GOT THAT FOR THE

EVERGLADES AND THE PROJECTS

UNDERWAY.

LELAND: JUST TO BUTTON THIS UP,

IF WE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF

REPUBLICANS NOT RUNNING IN 2020,

DO WE ADD YOUR PICTURE THERE?

>> YES, YOU DO.

AND I WANT TO BE A MODEL FOR

TERM LIMITS.

I'M THE ONE THAT CAME UP WITH A

TEMPERATURE LIMITS THAT DOESN'T

NEED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

THIS IS PUBLIC SERVICE, NOT

PUBLIC LIFE.

LELAND: WHERE IS THAT MODEL

MISSING IN CONGRESS?

YOU'RE ANNOUNCING YOUR

RETIREMENT AFTER TWO YEARS,

NOBODY DOES THAT.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE

GRAPHIC THAT WE JUST PUT UP ARE

FROM DISTRICTS THAT ARE

INCREDIBLY TIGHT.

SWING DISTRICTS AND A LOT OF

FACES YOU PUT UP WILL HERD AND

OTHERS WHO WON BY A POINT, HALF

A POINT.

YOUR DISTRICT IS REPUBLICAN PLUS

22.

YOU COULD BE THERE FOR AS LONG

AS YOU WANT.

>> WHICH IS A PROBLEM.

I THOUGHT THE IDEA WAS YOU DO

YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND LEFT,

YOU ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT TO

ACCOMPLISH AND I'M ALSO TIRED OF

THE INTENSE PARTISANSHIP THAT

STOPS US FROM ACCOMPLISHING THAT

NEEDS TO BE SOLVED.

LELAND: ARE YOU TIRED OF HAVING

TO ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING THAT

PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES?

>> NO, I DON'T--

>> YOU DON'T MIND IT?

>> I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT.

YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT TOEING THE

PARTY LINE WHEN IT COMES TO

IMPEACHMENT.

DOES THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO

WITH IT, YOU DON'T LIKE BEING

FORCED THAT WAY?

>> NOT AT ALL.

I'VE DISAGREED WITH THE

REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP ON A LOT

OF THINGS.

LELAND: YOU HAVE.

>> GOING BACK TO THE SECURE ACT

THREE YEARS AGO I WORKED WITH

THE FLORIDA DELEGATION.

LELAND: SOME AREN'T HAPPY ABOUT

THE TERM LIMIT.

>> NOR ARE THEY HAPPY ABOUT

EMERGENCY DECLARATION, AND I

VOTED AGAINST BOTH.

LELAND: DO YOU FEEL THIS

ANNOUNCEMENT MAKES IT FREE YOU

UP?

>> IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING

TO DO ANYWAY.

LIKE WE TELL OUR KIDS YOU HAVE

TO DO THE RIGHT THING AN AT ALL

TIMES.

LELAND: THE COUNTRY IS WATCHING

AND THANKS YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND FOR YOUR SACRIFICE.