>> Shannon: GILLIAN TURNER,

THANK YOU FOR CHECKING THAT

DOWN.

>> YOU BET.

>> Shannon: CONTINUES TO HOLD

CLOSED DOORS HEARINGS WITH

CURRENT AND FORMER TROP AND

ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS.

THE WALL STREET JOURNALS

EDITORIAL BOARD MORNING HOUSE

INTEL CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF THAT

BY DOING THINGS THIS WAY I'M A

LENDING CREDIBILITY TO TO THE

PRESIDENT'S ARGUMENT THAT IF

THEY AGAIN.

QUOTE, "THE HOUSE DEMOCRAT

JUSTIFIES HIS IMPEACHMENT

SECRETLY AS IF HE'S RUNNING A

CRIMINAL TRIAL."

SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST

BRIT HUME WILL BREAK IT DOWN,

GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

>> THANK YOU, SHANNON, GLAD TO

BE HERE.

>> Shannon: BYRON YORK WRITING

ABOUT THIS.

THEY WERE TRANSCRIPT INTERVIEWS.

THE LAST COUPLE HAVE BEEN

DEPOSITIONS, WHICH MEANS NO ONE

IS ALLOWED TO COME OUT AND TALK

ABOUT THEM.

ADAM SCHIFF CAN DECIDE IF THERE

TRANSCRIPT ARE RELEASED AND EVEN

LAWMAKERS ARE GETTING A CHANCE

TO LOOK AT THEM.

TALKS ABOUT THE FORMER

AMBASSADOR, MARIE YOVANOVITCH,

WHO TESTIFIED LAST WEEK.

HE SAYS THIS, "AS THE INTERVIEW

BEGAN HER TEN PAGE OPENING

STATEMENT QUICKLY LEAKED.

DEMOCRATS AND MARIE YOVANOVITCH

GOT THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY OUT

WITHOUT ANY REBUTTAL FROM

REPUBLICANS."

IF THEY ARE AFRAID TO SAY

ANYTHING.

>> THE REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID I

THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS ON THE

COMMITTEE, ON THE INTELLIGENCE

COMMITTEE, WILL DO TO THEM, OR

SOMEONE OF THEM, WHAT THEY DID

TO DEVIN NUNES, WHICH WAS THEY

WALKED UP A CHARGE THAT HE

MISHANDLED CLASSIFIED

INFORMATION OR WHATEVER, IT WAS

A BASELESS CHARGE, BUT HE HAD TO

STEP DOWN FROM THE COMMITTEE, OR

FELT HE HAD TO WHILE THERE

INDEPENDENCY WAS DONE INTO THAT.

I THINK THEY ARE AFRAID OF THAT

A LITTLE BIT BUT THIS GAME IS SO

KIND OF TRANSPARENT, WHAT'S

GOING ON HERE.

THEY HOLD THE QUESTIONING

SESSION IN SECRET.

THEN THE DEMOCRATS LEAKED TO THE

MEDIA WHATEVER PORTIONS THEY

THINK ARE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THEIR

SIDE OF THE REPUBLICANS ARE

AFRAID TO DO THE SAME THING.

SO THAT'S HOW THE GAME IS BEING

PLAYED.

I FRANKLY, SHANNON, DON'T THINK

THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN SUSTAIN

THIS, HAVING THESE INTERVIEWS IN

SECRET MUCH LONGER.

BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW,

IMPEACHMENT IS A LEGAL PROCESS,

BUT IT'S A POLITICAL PROCESS AS

WELL.

IT'S A PECULIAR BLEND.

THEY ARE ENTITLED AT LAW TO DO

THIS ANYWAY THEY CHOOSE, THE

DEMOCRATS ARE.

THEY CONTROL THE PLACE AND THEY

CAN IMPEACH FOR WHATEVER REASON

THEY WANT BASICALLY.

BUT IF IT IS PERCEIVED AS UNFAIR

BY THE PEOPLE AROUND THE

COUNTRY, THAT IT'S ONE-SIDED,

UNFAIR, STAR CHAMBER, IN

SECRET -- AND OF COURSE TRUMP

WILL HOWL AT THE MOON OF ABOUT

THAT FOREVER.

, THEN I THINK THEY GOT A

PROBLEM.

IT WILL WORRY THE DEMOCRATS IN

THE HOUSE WHO WERE RELUCTANT TO

VOTE FOR IMPEACHMENT, IT WILL

EMBOLDEN REPUBLICANS IN THE

HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE WILL

ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PASS ON THIS

IF IT COMES TO THAT, SO I THINK

THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN TRYING

TO DO IT THE WAY THEY ARE DOING

IT.

>> Shannon: OKAY, LET'S TALK

ABOUT THE DEVELOPER THAT HUNTER

BIDEN IS STEPPING DOWN FROM THE

BOARD OF A CHINESE COMPANY,

SAYING HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG

BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO CAUSE

PROBLEMS FOR HIS FATHER.

JONATHAN TURLEY WRITING IN THE

HILL, LAW PROFESSOR, TALKED

ABOUT HOW MOST OF THE MEDIA,

WHAT THEY SAYS IT HAS BEEN FULLY

INVESTIGATED AND THERE'S NOTHING

THERE, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW A

LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

INVESTIGATING IT.

HE OUTLINES WHAT HAS AND HASN'T

HAPPENED BUT HE SAYS THIS.

"THERE'S NO REASON THE MEDIA

CANNOT PURSUE ALLEGATIONS

AGAINST BOTH OF THE TRUMPS AND

THE BIDENS.

AT THAT, HOWEVER WOULD COUNTER

THE NARRATIVE THAT THERE'S

NOTHING WRONG WITH HUNTER

BIDEN'S DEALINGS AND THAT IT'S

ALL A LIE THAT'S BEST TO

IGNORE."

YOU'VE SEEN THE LETTERS THAT

THEY CAME FROM THE CAMPAIGN

WARNING MEDIA OUTLETS.

TALKING ABOUT IT, OR STOP

BOOKING CERTAIN PEOPLE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

>> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT

THERE IS AN OBVIOUS SORT OF

CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ITS FACE

THAT DEALS WITH 100 BIDEN WAS

DOING WHILE HIS FATHER, AS

VICE PRESIDENT, WEST POINT MAN

ON FOREIGN POLICY MATTERS,

AFFECTING COUNTRIES WHO STOOD TO

BE AFFECTED -- STOOD TO AFFECT

HUNTER BIDEN'S INTERESTS, SO HE

HAD A CONFLICT THERE AND YOU

DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WRONG,

EXACTLY, OR ILLEGAL, IN ORDER

FOR THAT TO BE A PROBLEM,

BECAUSE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST

CREATES AN APPEARANCE PROBLEM

AND IT MAKES PEOPLE SUSPICIOUS

THAT THE FOREIGN POLICY THAT WE

ARE CONDUCTING IN PARTICULAR

ISN'T ON THE UP AND UP BECAUSE

THERE'S AN INTEREST THERE.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND

I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER BEEN

PROPERLY ADDRESSED.

>> Shannon: YOU THINK IT WILL

BE ADDRESSED, QUICKLY, IN THE

DEBATE TOMORROW NIGHT?

"THE BOSTON HERALD"'S RIGHT.

"THE DEMOCRATS SHARE ONLY ONE

UNIFYING FLY FROM, THAT THEY

HATE TRUMP, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO

IGNORE QUID PRO QUO DROVE OR

QUIT PRO JOE, DO THEY HATE TRUMP

MORE THAN THEY WANT TO WIN?

>> I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO

A QUESTION OF IF YOU ARE A

DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE -- BIDEN

STILL HAS A BIG CHUNK OF THAT

VOTE.

I THINK IS ON SHAKY GROUND IN

SOME WAYS, BUT THERE HE IS.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT

IT?

ARE YOU GOING TO ATTACK HIM ON

THIS STUFF?

TAKE HIM ON IN SOME WAY?

OR YOU GOING TO -- KNOWING THAT

THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS ARE

NOT GOING TO APPROVE OF, BECAUSE

IT MIGHT HELP TRUMP, ARE YOU

GOING TO SHY AWAY.

MY GUESS IS THEY WILL SHY AWAY

BUT WHO KNOWS?

THERE ARE SOME HAIL MARY PASSES

BEING THROWN IN THAT FIELD OUT

THERE, MOST PARTICULARLY BY

BETO O'ROURKE, WHO'S BEEN COMING

AFTER ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT

COULDN'T POSSIBLY ATTRACT A

MAJORITY OF THE VOTE AND I THINK

IT'S DRIVING THE DEMOCRATS CRAZY

THAT HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE IT

ATTACHES TO THEM IN SOME WAY.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE KIND

OF FUN TO SEE WHAT THEY DO

TOMORROW NIGHT.

>> Shannon: IT WILL BE AT WE