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  • -Last night, the United States

  • brought the world's number-one terrorist leader to justice.

  • Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead.

  • He was the founder and leader of ISIS,

  • the most ruthless and violent terror organization

  • anywhere in the world.

  • The United States has been searching for Baghdadi

  • for many years.

  • Capturing or killing Baghdadi has been the top

  • national security priority of my administration.

  • US Special Operations Forces executed a dangerous

  • and daring nighttime raid in Northwestern Syria

  • and accomplished their mission in grand style.

  • The US personnel were incredible.

  • I got to watch much of it.

  • No personnel were lost in the operation,

  • while a large number of Baghdadi's fighters

  • and companions were killed with him.

  • He died after running into a dead-end tunnel,

  • whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.

  • The compound had been cleared by this time,

  • with people either surrendering or being shot and killed.

  • 11 young children were moved out of the house

  • and are uninjured.

  • The only ones remaining were Baghdadi in the tunnel,

  • and he had dragged three of his young children with him.

  • They were led to certain death.

  • He reached the end of the tunnel as our dogs chased him down.

  • He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children.

  • His body was mutilated by the blast.

  • The tunnel had caved in on it, in addition.

  • But test results gave certain, immediate,

  • and totally positive identification.

  • It was him.

  • The thug who tried so hard to intimidate others

  • spent his last moments in utter fear,

  • in total panic and dread,

  • terrified of the American forces bearing down on him.

  • We were in the compound for approximately two hours,

  • and after the mission was accomplished,

  • we took highly sensitive material

  • and information from the raid,

  • much having to do with ISIS origins, future plans,

  • things that we very much want.

  • Baghdadi's demise demonstrates America's relentless

  • pursuit of terrorist leaders and our commitment

  • to the enduring and total defeat of ISIS

  • and other terrorist organizations.

  • Our reach is very long.

  • As you know, last month,

  • we announced that we recently killed Hamza bin Laden,

  • the very violent son of Osama bin Laden,

  • who was saying very bad things about people,

  • about our country, about the world.

  • He was the heir apparent to Al-Qaeda.

  • Terrorists who oppress and murder innocent people

  • should never sleep soundly,

  • knowing that we will completely destroy them.

  • These savage monsters will not escape their fate,

  • and they will not escape the final judgment of God.

  • Baghdadi has been on the run for many years,

  • long before I took office.

  • But on my direction,

  • as Commander in Chief of the United States,

  • we obliterated his caliphate 100% in March of this year.

  • Today's events are another reminder

  • that we will continue to pursue the remaining ISIS

  • terrorists to their brutal end.

  • That also goes for other terrorist organizations.

  • They are likewise in our sights.

  • Baghdadi and the losers who worked for him,

  • and losers they are,

  • they had no idea what they were getting into.

  • In some cases, they were very frightened puppies.

  • In other cases, they were hard-core killers,

  • but they killed many, many people.

  • Their murder of innocent Americans James Foley,

  • Steven Sotloff, Peter Kassig,

  • and Kayla Mueller were especially heinous.

  • The shocking, publicized murder of Jordanian pilot,

  • a wonderful young man -- spoke to the King of Jordan.

  • They all knew him. They all loved him.

  • He was burned alive in a cage for all to see.

  • And the execution of Christians in Libya and Egypt,

  • as well as the genocidal mass murder of Yazidis rank ISIS

  • among the most depraved organizations --

  • the history of our world.

  • The forced religious conversions,

  • the orange suits prior to so many beheadings --

  • all of which were openly displayed for the world to see.

  • This was all that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi --

  • this is what he wanted.

  • This is what he was proud of.

  • He was a sick and depraved man, and now he's gone.

  • Baghdadi was vicious and violent,

  • and he died in a vicious and violent way,

  • as a coward, running and crying.

  • This raid was impeccable

  • and could only have taken place with the acknowledgement

  • and help of certain other nations and people.

  • I want to thank the nations of Russia, Turkey, Syria,

  • and Iraq, and I also want to thank the Syrian Kurds

  • for certain support they were able to give us.

  • This was a very, very dangerous mission.

  • Thank you, as well, to the great intelligence professionals

  • who helped make this very successful journey possible.

  • I want to thank the soldiers and sailors, airmen,

  • and Marines involved in last night's operation.

  • You are the very best there is anywhere in the world.

  • No matter where you go, there is nobody even close.

  • I want to thank General Mark Milley

  • and our Joint Chiefs of Staff.

  • And I also want to thank our professionals

  • who work in other agencies of the United States government.

  • They were critical to the mission's unbelievable success.

  • Last night was a great night for the United States

  • and for the world.

  • A brutal killer,

  • one who has caused so much hardship and death,

  • had violently been eliminated.

  • He will never again harm another innocent man, woman, or child.

  • He died like a dog.

  • He died like a coward.

  • The world is now a much safer place.

  • God Bless America.

  • Thank you. Any questions?

  • -When did you first hear

  • that this was an operation was gonna get started?

  • -We've had him under surveillance

  • for a couple of weeks.

  • We knew a little bit about where he was going,

  • where he was heading.

  • He had very good information

  • that he was going to another location.

  • He didn't go.

  • Two or three efforts were cancelled

  • because he decided to change his mind --

  • constantly changing his mind.

  • And finally, we saw that he was here -- held up here.

  • We knew something about the compound.

  • We knew it had tunnels.

  • The tunnels were dead-end, for the most part.

  • There was one we think that wasn't,

  • but we had that covered, too, just in case.

  • The level of intelligence,

  • the level of work was pretty amazing.

  • When we landed, with eight helicopters,

  • a large crew of brilliant fighters

  • ran out of those helicopters

  • and blew holes into the side of the building,

  • not wanting to go through the main door

  • because that was booby-trapped.

  • And there was something --

  • It was something really amazing to see.

  • I got to watch it, along with General Milley,

  • Vice President Pence, others, in the Situation Room,

  • and we watched it so clearly.

  • -How did you watch the -- -Well, I don't want to say how,

  • but we had absolutely perfect,

  • as though you were watching a movie.

  • It was -- The technology there alone is really great.

  • A big part of the trip that was of great danger was the --

  • It was approximately an hour and 10 minute flight,

  • and we were flying over very, very dangerous territory.

  • In fact, some of our leaders

  • said that could be the most dangerous --

  • flying in and flying out.

  • And that's why last night we were so quiet about it.

  • We didn't say anything.

  • And I didn't make my remark

  • until after they had landed safely in a certain area.

  • But the flight in,

  • the flight out was a very, very dangerous part.

  • There was a chance that we would have met unbelievable fire.

  • Russia treated us great.

  • They opened up --

  • We had to fly over certain Russia areas --

  • Russia-held areas.

  • Russia was great.

  • Iraq was excellent.

  • We really had great cooperation.

  • And you have to understand they didn't know what we were doing

  • and where we were going exactly.

  • But the ISIS fighters are hated as much by Russia

  • and some of these other countries as they are by us.

  • And that's why I say they should start doing

  • a lot of the fighting now, and they'll be able to.

  • I really believe they'll be able to.

  • Yes, Jennifer?

  • -Can you say what role the Kurds played in this, generally?

  • -They gave us not a military role at all,

  • but they gave us some information

  • that turned out to be helpful -- the Kurds.

  • -Can you tell us what the role of Turkey

  • might have been and Iraq?

  • -Who? -What was the role of Turkey?

  • How did they help?

  • -Turkey -- We dealt with them.

  • They knew we were going in.

  • We flew over some territory.

  • They were terrific.

  • No problem. They were not problem.

  • You know, they could start shooting,

  • and then we will take them out,

  • but a lot of bad things can happen.

  • Plus, it was a very secret mission.

  • We flew very, very low and very, very fast.

  • But it was a big -- It was a very dangerous part

  • of the mission --

  • getting in, and getting out, too.

  • Equal.

  • We went in identical -- We took an identical route.

  • We met with gunfire coming in.

  • But it was local gunfire.

  • That gunfire was immediately terminated.

  • These people are amazing.

  • They had the gunfire terminated immediately,

  • meaning they were shot from the airships.

  • -I'm trying to be clear of the timing.

  • You talked earlier, you know, several weeks,

  • about pulling troops out, you know,

  • and then troops were put back in.

  • You know, I'm trying to understand the timing

  • of when this operation -- -Well, I'll tell you,

  • from the first day I came to office,

  • and now we're getting close to three years,

  • I would say, "Where's al-Baghdadi?

  • I want al-Baghdadi."

  • And we would kill terrorist leaders,

  • but they were names I'd never heard of.

  • They were names that weren't recognizable,

  • and they weren't the big names.

  • Some good ones. Some important ones.

  • But they weren't the big names.

  • I kept saying, "Where's al-Baghdadi?"

  • And a couple of weeks ago, they were able to scope him out.

  • You know, these people are very smart.

  • They're not into the use of cellphones anymore.

  • They're not -- They're very technically brilliant.

  • You know, they use the Internet better than

  • almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump.

  • But they use the Internet incredibly well.

  • And what they've done with the Internet,

  • through recruiting and everything --

  • and that's why he died like a dog.

  • He died like a coward.

  • He was whimpering, screaming, and crying.

  • And frankly, I think it's something

  • that should be brought out,

  • so that his followers and all of these young kids

  • that want to leave various countries,

  • including the United States -- they should see how he died.

  • He didn't die a hero.

  • He died a coward -- crying, whimpering, screaming,

  • and bringing three kids with him to die.

  • Certain death.

  • And he knew the tunnel had no end.

  • I mean, it was a -- a closed-end.

  • They call it a closed-end tunnel.

  • Not a good place to be.

  • -So, this was going on before you made the announcement

  • that you're -- -I've been looking for him

  • for three years.

  • I've been looking for him --

  • I started getting some very positive feedback

  • about a month ago.

  • And we had some incredible intelligence officials

  • that did a great job.

  • That's what they should be focused on.

  • -About what time did this operation start yesterday, sir?

  • And did you notify --

  • -Well, this operation started two weeks ago,

  • in terms of the real operation, because we had him scoped.

  • We thought he'd be in a certain location.

  • He was.

  • Things started checking out very well.

  • We were involved on our own team

  • with some brilliant people who I've gotten to know --

  • brilliant people that love our country.

  • Highly intelligent people.

  • And we've had it pretty well

  • scoped out for a couple of weeks.

  • But he tends to change immediately.

  • He had a lot of cash.

  • He tends to change, like, on a dime,

  • where he'll be going to a certain location.

  • All of a sudden, he'll go someplace else.

  • And you'll have to cancel.

  • But this was one where we knew he was there,

  • and you can never be 100% sure because you're basing it

  • on technology more than anything else.

  • But we thought he was there, and then we got a confirmation.

  • And when we went in, they were greeted with a lot of firepower.

  • A lot of firepower.

  • I tell you, these guys, they do a job --

  • they are so brave and so good,

  • and so importantly, many of his people were killed,

  • and we'll announce the exact number over the next 24 hours,

  • but many were killed.

  • We lost nobody. Think of that.

  • It's incredible.

  • -When you told the Russians -- -Our dog was hurt.

  • Actually, the canine was hurt -- went into the tunnel.

  • But we lost nobody.

  • -You requested to the Russians to fly over this area

  • they controlled, what did you -- -We spoke to the Russians.

  • -What did you tell them? -We told them we're coming in.

  • And they said, "Thank you for telling us."

  • They were very good.

  • -But did you tell them why? -No, they did not know why.

  • -Was any other country -- -We did tell them,

  • "We think you're gonna be very happy,"

  • because, you know, they hate ISIS as much as we do.

  • You know what ISIS has done to Russia?

  • So, no, we did not tell -- They did not know the mission,

  • but they knew we were going over an area that they had --

  • they had a lot of firepower.

  • -Have you notified

  • the Congressional leaders about this?

  • Pelosi? -We've notified some.

  • Others are being notified now as I speak.

  • We were going to notify them last night,

  • but we decided not to do that

  • because Washington leaks like I've never seen before.

  • There's nothing --

  • There's no country in the world that leaks like we do.

  • And Washington is a leaking machine.

  • And I told my people, "We will not notify them

  • until our great people are out" --

  • not just in, but out.

  • I don't want to have them greeted with firepower

  • like you wouldn't believe.

  • So, we were able to get in. It was top secret.

  • It was kept.

  • There were no leaks, no nothing.

  • The only people that knew were the few people

  • that I dealt with.

  • And again, Mark Milley and the Joint Chiefs

  • of Staff were incredible.

  • We had some tremendous backup.

  • Robert O'Brien, Secretary Esper, Secretary Pompeo.

  • Pence, I told you. He was great.

  • There was a very small group of people that knew about this.

  • We had very, very few people.

  • A leak -- A leak could have caused the death of all of them.

  • Now, they're so good

  • that I think nothing was gonna stop them anyway.

  • You want to know the truth. That's how good they were.

  • We had them also surrounded by massive air power.

  • Up in the air, yesterday,

  • surrounded at very high levels --

  • we were very low -- we had tremendous air power.

  • -And then you watched all this from the Sit Room?

  • Who were you with in the Sit Room when you watched this?

  • -Secretary Esper, a few of the Joint Chiefs,

  • Mark Milley, some generals.

  • We had some very great military people in that room.

  • And we had some great intelligence people --

  • Robert O'Brien.

  • Really good. Yes?

  • -Was the pull-out of the US troops in Syria

  • last month strategically tied with this raid?

  • -No, no, the pull-out -- Right, sure,

  • it's a great question,

  • and you're doing a great job, by the way.

  • Your network is fantastic.

  • They're really doing a great job.

  • Please let them know.

  • No, the pull-out had nothing to do with this.

  • In fact, we found this out at a similar time.

  • It's a very good question

  • because we found this out at a similar time.

  • No, we're after these leaders, and we have others in sight.

  • Very bad ones. But this was the big one.

  • This is the biggest one,

  • perhaps, that we've ever captured

  • 'cause this is the one that built ISIS and beyond

  • and was looking to rebuild it again --

  • very, very strongly looking to build it again.

  • That's why he went to this province.

  • That's why he went to this area.

  • You know, a lot of people --

  • I was watching this morning and hearing,

  • and they said, "Why was he there?"

  • People were so surprised.

  • Well, that's where he was trying to rebuild from

  • because that was the place that made most sense,

  • if you're looking to rebuild.

  • Yeah?

  • -You said in your tweet last night --

  • At what moment did you decide to send that?

  • -So, I sent that right after I knew they had landed safely.

  • -When they returned. -Right.

  • -And that was to notify you guys

  • that you have something big this morning,

  • so you wouldn't be out playing golf or tennis

  • or otherwise being indisposed.

  • -Where were they safe? Where did they land?

  • -I'd rather not say, but we landed

  • in a very friendly port in a friendly country.

  • -Give you any pause about your decision to withdraw?

  • -No, I think it's great.

  • Look, we don't want to keep soldiers

  • between Syria and Turkey for the next 200 years.

  • They've been fighting for hundreds of years.

  • We're out.

  • But we are leaving soldiers to secure the oil.

  • And we may have to fight for the oil.

  • It's okay.

  • Maybe somebody else wants the oil,

  • which case, they have a hell of a fight.

  • But there's massive amounts of oil,

  • and we're securing it for a couple of reasons --

  • number one, it stops ISIS

  • because ISIS got tremendous wealth from that oil.

  • We have taken it. It's secured.

  • Number two, and again, somebody else may claim it,

  • but either we'll negotiate a deal

  • with whoever's claiming it, if they think it's fair,

  • or we will militarily stop them very quickly.

  • We have tremendous power in that part of the world.

  • We have -- You know, the airport is right nearby,

  • a very big, very monstrous, very -- very powerful airport,

  • and very expensive airport that was built years ago.

  • We're in there for --

  • We're in the Middle East now for $8 trillion.

  • So, we don't want to be keeping Syria and Turkey.

  • They're gonna have to make their own decision.

  • The Kurds have worked along incredibly with us,

  • but in all fairness, it was much easier dealing with the Kurds

  • after they went through three days of fighting

  • because that was a brutal three days.

  • And if we would have said to the Kurds,

  • "Hey, do you mind moving over seven miles?"

  • because, you know, they were in the middle, mostly.

  • So, you have seven or eight miles.

  • "Could you mind moving over?"

  • because I have to say, Turkey is taking tremendous deaths

  • from that part of the world.

  • You know, we call it a safe zone,

  • but it was anything but a safe zone.

  • Turkey has lost thousands and thousands of people

  • from that safe zone.

  • So, they've always wanted that safe zone for many years.

  • I'm glad I was able to help them get it.

  • But we don't want to be there.

  • We want to be home.

  • I want our soldiers home,

  • or fighting something that's meaningful.

  • I'll tell you who loves us being there --

  • Russia and China.

  • Because while they build their military,

  • we're depleting our military there.

  • So, Russia loves us being there.

  • Now, Russia likes us being there for two reasons --

  • because we kill ISIS.

  • We kill terrorists.

  • And they're very close to Russia.

  • We're 8,000 miles away.

  • Well, maybe they can get here,

  • but we've done very well with Homeland Security

  • and the ban, which, by the way, is approved

  • by the United States Supreme Court, as you know.

  • You know, there was a reporter that said we lost the case,

  • and he was right -- in the early court.

  • He refused -- He didn't want to say --

  • just refused to say that we won the case in the Supreme Court.

  • So, you know -- But we have a very effective ban,

  • and it's very hard for people to come to our country.

  • But it's many thousands of miles away,

  • whereas Russia's right there.

  • Turkey's right there.

  • Syria is there. They're all right there.

  • Excuse me, Iran is right there.

  • Iraq is right there.

  • They all hate ISIS.

  • So, in theory, they should do something.

  • And I'll give you something else.

  • The European nations have been a tremendous disappointment

  • because I personally call, but my people call a lot.

  • "Take your ISIS fighters."

  • And they didn't want them.

  • We said, "We don't want them."

  • They came from France. They came from Germany.

  • They came from the UK.

  • They came from a lot of countries.

  • And I actually said to them, "You don't take them,

  • I'm gonna drop them right on your border,

  • and you can have fun capturing them again."

  • But the United States taxpayer is not gonna pay

  • for the next 50 years.

  • You see what Guantanamo costs.

  • We're not gonna pay tens of billions of dollars

  • because we were good enough to capture people

  • that want to go back to Germany, France, UK,

  • and other parts of Europe, and they can walk back.

  • They can't walk to our country.

  • We have lots of water in between our country and them.

  • So, yeah. Go.

  • -You mentioned that you've gotten to know

  • some brilliant people along this process

  • who would help

  • provide information and advice along the way.

  • Is there anyone in particular,

  • or would you like to give anyone credit

  • for getting to this point today?

  • -Well, I would, but if I mention one,

  • I'd have to mention so many.

  • I spoke to Senator Richard Burr this morning, and as you know,

  • he's very involved with intelligence, on the committee.

  • And he's a great gentleman.

  • I spoke with Lindsey Graham just a little while ago.

  • In fact, Lindsey Graham is right over here.

  • And he's been very much involved in this subject,

  • and he's a very strong hawk.

  • But I think Lindsey agrees with what we're doing now.

  • And again, there are plenty of other countries

  • that can help them patrol.

  • I don't want to leave 1,000 or 2,000

  • or 3,000 soldiers on the border.

  • But where Lindsey and I totally agree is the oil.

  • The oil is, you know, so valuable for many reasons.

  • It fueled ISIS, number one.

  • And number two, it helps the Kurds

  • because it's basically been taken away from the Kurds.

  • They were able to live with that oil.

  • And number three, it can help us

  • because we should be able to take some, also.

  • And what I intend to do, perhaps, is make a deal

  • with an Exxon-Mobil or one of our great companies

  • to go in there and do it properly.

  • Right now it's not big.

  • It's big oil underground, but it's not big oil up top.

  • Much of the machinery's been shot and dead.

  • It's been through wars.

  • And spread out the wealth.

  • But, no, we're protecting the oil.

  • We're securing the oil.

  • Now, that doesn't mean we don't make a deal at some point.

  • But I don't -- They're fighting for 1,000 years.

  • They're fighting for centuries.

  • I want to bring our soldiers back home,

  • but I do want to secure the oil.

  • If you read about the history of Donald Trump,

  • I was a civilian.

  • I had absolutely nothing to do with going into Iraq,

  • and I was totally against it.

  • But I always used to say, "If they're going to go in" --

  • Nobody cared that much, but it got written about --

  • "If they're going to go in" --

  • I'm sure you've heard this statement

  • 'cause I made it more than any human being alive --

  • "If they're going into Iraq, keep the oil."

  • They never did. They never did.

  • I know Lindsey Graham had a bill where, basically,

  • we would have been paid back

  • for all of the billions of dollars that we've spent --

  • many, many billions of dollars. I mean, I hate to say it.

  • It's actually trillions of dollars,

  • but many, many billions of dollars, and by one vote,

  • they were unable to get that approved in the Senate.

  • They had some pretty big opposition from people

  • that shouldn't have opposed, like a president,

  • and they weren't able.

  • If you did that, Iraq would be a much different story today

  • because they would be owing us a lot of money.

  • They would be treating us much differently.

  • But I will say Iraq was very good

  • with respect to the raid last night.

  • -Just to pin down the timing a little bit better,

  • you got back to the White House around 4:30 yesterday afternoon.

  • Did you immediately go to the Situation Room?

  • -Well, I knew all about this for three days.

  • Yeah, we thought for three days

  • this was what was going to happen.

  • It was actually -- Look, nobody was even hurt.

  • Our canine, as they call -- I call it a dog --

  • a beautiful dog, a talented dog --

  • was injured and brought back.

  • But we had no soldier injured.

  • And they did a lot of shooting and they did a lot of blasting,

  • even not going through the front door.

  • You know, you would thing you go through the door.

  • If you're a normal person, you say,

  • "Knock, knock, may I come in?"

  • The fact is that they blasted their way into the house

  • and a very heavy wall,

  • and it took them literally seconds.

  • By the time those things went off,

  • they had a beautiful, big hole,

  • and they ran in and they got everybody by surprise.

  • Unbelievably brilliant as fighters.

  • I can't imagine there could be anybody better.

  • And these, as you know, are our top operations people.

  • -Baghdadi, apparently, had been in bad health for some time.

  • Was there any indication of that?

  • -We don't know that, but he was the last one out,

  • and his people had either been killed,

  • which there were many, or gave up and came out

  • because with the 11 children that came out --

  • We were able to do that --

  • We don't know if they were his children.

  • They might have been.

  • But as I said, three died in the tunnel.

  • And the tunnel collapsed with the explosion.

  • But you had other fighters coming out, also,

  • and they're being brought back.

  • They're being -- Right now we have them in prison.

  • -I was gonna ask whose children they were, but do you remember

  • what time you went into the Situation Room?

  • -Well, I started at 5:00.

  • We were pretty much gathered at 5:00 yesterday.

  • We were in contact all day long through,

  • hopefully, secure phones.

  • I'll let you know tomorrow, but nothing seemed to leak,

  • so I guess they were secure for a change.

  • But we gathered more or less at 5:00.

  • The attack started moments after that.

  • The lift-off started moments after that.

  • Again, the element of attack that they were most afraid

  • of was getting from our base into that compound

  • because there's tremendous firepower

  • that we were flying over.

  • And I won't go into it,

  • but you had a very big Russian presence in one area.

  • You had a Turkish presence.

  • You had a Syrian presence.

  • And you're flying low.

  • It's very dangerous.

  • And there were shots made, but we think these were people

  • that were shooting that were indiscriminately shooting.

  • The helicopters took some shots, but we think that

  • these were people that were just random people

  • that don't like to see helicopters, I guess.

  • -Was there any kind of DNA test done?

  • -So, that's another part of the genius of these people.

  • They brought his -- They have his DNA --

  • more of it than they want, even.

  • And they brought it with them with lab technicians

  • who were with them.

  • And they assumed that this was Baghdadi.

  • They thought visually it was him.

  • But they assumed it was him, and they did an on-site test.

  • They got samples.

  • And to get to his body, they had to remove a lot of debris

  • because the tunnel had collapsed,

  • but these people are very good at that.

  • And as I said, they brought body

  • parts back with them, et cetera, et cetera.

  • There wasn't much left.

  • The vest blew up, but there are still substantial pieces

  • that they brought back.

  • So, they did an on-site test because we had to know this.

  • And it was a very quick call that took place about 15 minutes

  • after he was killed, and it was positive it was --

  • "This is a confirmation, sir."

  • -It was also reported that his wives had detonated --

  • or one of his wives had detonated a vest.

  • -So, there were two women.

  • There were two women.

  • Both wives.

  • Both wearing vests.

  • They had not detonated, but the fact that they were dead

  • and had vests on made it very difficult for our men

  • 'cause they had vests on.

  • And it made it very difficult for our men.

  • Because you never know what's gonna happen.

  • They're lying, they're dead.

  • They never detonated, but they were dead.

  • -Any word on the successors, the possible successors?

  • Have you been briefed on who could possibly --

  • -Yeah, we know the successors.

  • And we've already got them in our sights.

  • And we'll tell you that right now.

  • But we know the successors.

  • Hamza bin Laden was a big thing,

  • but this is the biggest there is.

  • This is the worst ever.

  • Osama bin Laden was very big,

  • but Osama bin Laden became big with the World Trade Center.

  • This is a man who built a whole, as he would like to call it,

  • a country -- a caliphate -- and was trying to do it again.

  • And I had not heard too much about his health.

  • I've heard stories about he may not have been in good health.

  • But he died in a ruthless, vicious manner.

  • That I can tell you.

  • -Any prisoners taken, sir? Were any adults taken?

  • -Yes, we have people that were taken.

  • We have --

  • Many of the people died on the site,

  • but we have people that were taken, yes.

  • And the children, we are --

  • We left them under care of somebody that we understand.

  • -Do you believe that these were all -- -11 children.

  • -11 children. How many adults?

  • -I'd rather not say. I'd leave that to the generals.

  • But a small group.

  • More dead than alive.

  • -Which operations teams were involved?

  • Which special operations teams were involved?

  • -Many of them, and at the top level

  • and people that were truly incredible at their craft.

  • I've never seen anything like it.

  • -As far as partnerships goes,

  • were there any other forces involved,

  • or was this only American troops in this raid?

  • -No, only American forces.

  • Only American forces, but we were given great cooperation.

  • -Did the US rely on -- -We told the Russians,

  • "We're coming in," because we had to go over them.

  • And they were curious, but we said, "We're coming."

  • I always said, one way or the other,

  • "Look, we're coming," but they were very cooperative.

  • They really were good.

  • And we did say it would be a mission that they'd like, too,

  • because, you know, again, they hate ISIS as much as we do.

  • -Sir, I meant for intel purposes,

  • was there any foreign intel

  • that proved useful along the way in this operation?

  • -So, we had our own intel. We got very little help.

  • We didn't need much help.

  • We have some incredible people.

  • When we use our intelligence correctly,

  • what we can do is incredible.

  • When we waste our time with intelligence,

  • that hurts our country

  • because we had poor leadership at the top, that's not good.

  • But I've gotten to know many of the intel people,

  • and I will say that they are spectacular.

  • Now, they're not gonna want to talk about it.

  • They want to keep it quiet.

  • The last thing they want --

  • because these are great patriots,

  • but the people that I've been dealing with

  • are incredible people,

  • and it's really a deserving name -- intelligence.

  • I've dealt with some people that aren't very intelligent

  • having to do with intel,

  • but this is the top people, and it was incredible.

  • It was flawless.

  • And it was very complicated.

  • So, I do appreciate Russia, Turkey, Iraq, and Syria

  • to an extent because, you know, we're flying into Syria.

  • There are a lot of Syrian people with lots of guns.

  • So, we had good cover

  • for probably the most dangerous part.

  • It would not sound -- You know, when you're flying in,

  • it doesn't sound like that would be the most dangerous

  • when you're going into shooting nests

  • and all of the things that happened

  • once they broke into that pretty powerful compound.

  • That was a very strong compound.

  • And, as I said, had tunnels.

  • But the most dangerous part,

  • we had great cooperation with -- Yes, ma'am?

  • -Did you inform Speaker Pelosi ahead of time?

  • -No, I didn't. I didn't do it.

  • I didn't do that.

  • I wanted to make sure this kept secret.

  • I don't want to have men lost, and women.

  • I don't want to have people lost.

  • -Do you anticipate inviting the special forces teams

  • to the White House after this?

  • -Oh, yeah, they'll be invited.

  • I don't know if they'll want to have their faces shown,

  • to be honest with you.

  • You know, they want to --

  • They're incredible for the country.

  • They're not looking for public relations.

  • But they love doing what they're doing.

  • I've seen it.

  • First Lady was out there

  • recently looking at what they do.

  • She came back, she said,

  • "Wow, I've never seen anything like that" -- the training.

  • You know, all of the training and the power of the people,

  • the men and women, the strength,

  • the physical strength, the mental strength.

  • These are incredible people.

  • These are very unique individuals.

  • -You mentioned "whimpering."

  • Could you hear that on your video hookup?

  • -Mentioned what? -The whimpering of Baghdadi?

  • -I don't want to talk about it, but he was screaming, crying,

  • and whimpering.

  • And he was scared out of his mind.

  • And think of James Foley. Think of Kayla.

  • Think of the things he did to Kayla.

  • What he did to Foley and so many others.

  • And for those people that say,

  • "Oh, isn't this a little violent?"

  • think of how many times have you seen men --

  • I think in all cases, men, for the most part,

  • but in terms of this -- where you see the orange suits

  • and you see the ocean and they're beheaded.

  • Or how many of you got to see, 'cause it was out there,

  • the Jordanian pilot whose plane went down?

  • They captured him, they put him in a cage,

  • and they set him on fire.

  • And the King of Jordan actually

  • attacked very powerfully when that happened.

  • I've never seen a thing like that.

  • But he set him on fire.

  • This was al-Baghdadi.

  • And you should never,

  • ever, hopefully, see a thing like that again.

  • Now, there'll be new people emerge, but this was the worst.

  • Of this particular world, this was the worst.

  • Probably, in certain ways, the smartest.

  • He was also a coward.

  • And he didn't want to die.

  • But think of it, everybody was out,

  • and we were able to search him down

  • and find him in the tunnel.

  • We knew the tunnel existed, and that's where he was.

  • -You've taken a lot of heat for the Syria pull-out.

  • Do you think this will change your standing?

  • -Well, I don't have a Syria pull-out.

  • I just don't want to guard Turkey and Syria

  • for the rest of our lives.

  • I mean, I don't want to do it. It's very expensive.

  • It's very dangerous.

  • They've been fighting for centuries.

  • I don't want to have my people --

  • 2,000 men and women or 1,000 or 28.

  • We had 28 guarding.

  • I said, "I don't want them there, anyway.

  • I don't want them."

  • Now, I will secure the oil that happens to be in a certain part,

  • but that's tremendous money involved.

  • I would love to -- you know, the oil in --

  • I'll tell you a story in Iraq.

  • So, they spent -- President Bush went in.

  • I strongly disagreed with it,

  • even though it wasn't my expertise at the time.

  • But I have a very good instinct about things.

  • They went in, and I said, "That's a tremendous mistake."

  • And there were no weapons of mass destruction.

  • It turned out I was right.

  • I was right for other reasons,

  • but it turned out, on top of everything else,

  • they had no weapons of mass destruction,

  • because that would be a reason to go in, but they had none.

  • But I heard recently that Iraq, over the last number of years,

  • actually discriminates against America in oil leases.

  • In other words, some oil companies from other countries,

  • after all we've done, have an advantage in Iraq for the oil.

  • I said, "Keep the oil. Give them what they need.

  • Keep the oil."

  • Why should we -- We go in, we lose thousands of lives,

  • spend trillions of dollars,

  • and our companies don't even have an advantage

  • in getting the oil leases.

  • So I just tell you that story.

  • That's what I heard.

  • -Did Gina Haspel play a role in this?

  • Maybe you could talk a little bit about that.

  • And I saw your NSC Counterterrorism Director

  • out in the hallway.

  • Was there a role with NSC Counterterrorism?

  • -Yes. Everybody.

  • Gina was great. Everybody played a role.

  • Joe was great. Gina was great.

  • They were all great. -Just a follow-up.

  • Did your Syria pull-out -- Did that generate

  • the intelligence that led to this operation?

  • -No. We were looking at this --

  • Look, as I said, Steve, I've been looking at this --

  • I'm here almost three years.

  • I've been looking at this for three years.

  • They'd come in, "Sir, we have somebody under" --

  • I said, "I don't want somebody. I want al-Baghdadi.

  • That's the one I want."

  • They'd say, "Well, we have somebody else."

  • I said, "That's great.

  • Fine. Take him out.

  • But I want al-Baghdadi.

  • That's who I want. I don't want other people."

  • And then I also wanted Hamza bin Laden

  • because he's a young man, around 30,

  • looks just like his father -- tall, very handsome --

  • and he was talking bad things, just like his father.

  • You know, if you read my book --

  • There was a book just before the World Trade Center came down,

  • and I don't get any credit for this, but that's okay.

  • I never do.

  • But here we are.

  • I wrote a book, a really, very successful book,

  • and in that book, about a year

  • before the World Trade Center was blown up,

  • I said, "There is somebody named Osama bin Laden.

  • You better kill him or take him out," something to that effect.

  • "He's big trouble."

  • Now, I wasn't in government.

  • I was building buildings and doing what I did.

  • But I always found it fascinating.

  • But I saw this man -- tall, handsome, very charismatic --

  • making horrible statements

  • about wanting to destroy our country,

  • and I'm writing a book.

  • I think I wrote 12 books.

  • All did very well.

  • And I'm writing a book.

  • World Trade Center had not come down.

  • I think it was about -- If you check,

  • it was about a year before the World Trade Center came down.

  • And I'm saying to people, "Take out Osama bin Laden,"

  • that nobody ever heard of -- nobody ever heard of.

  • I mean, al-Baghdadi everybody hears

  • 'cause he's built this monster for a long time.

  • But nobody ever heard of Osama bin Laden

  • until, really, the World Trade Center.

  • But about a year --

  • You'll have to check -- a year, year and a half

  • before the World Trade Center came down, the book came out.

  • I was talking about Osama bin Laden.

  • I said, "You have to kill him. You have to take him out."

  • Nobody listened to me.

  • And to this day, I get people coming up to me.

  • They said, "You know what one of the most amazing things

  • I've ever seen about you is that you predicted

  • that Osama bin Laden had to be killed

  • before he knocked down the World Trade Center."

  • It's true.

  • Now, most of the press doesn't want to write that,

  • but, you know -- but it is true.

  • If you go back, look up my book --

  • I think it was "The America We Deserve,"

  • I made a prediction, and I --

  • Let's put it this way, if they would have listened to me,

  • a lot of things would have been different.

  • -Can you talk about some of the difficult decisions

  • you had along the way here, in this operation?

  • Anything that weighed on you

  • or that you had to -- -Well, just death.

  • I mean, you know, I'm sending

  • a large number of brilliant fighters --

  • These are the greatest fighters in the world.

  • -How many?

  • -I'd rather let the generals tell you, but a large number.

  • We had eight helicopters, and we had many other ships and planes.

  • It was a large group, and again, this is a large group

  • heading over very, very strong firepower areas, where --

  • that was decision one -- "Will they make it?"

  • And they made it.

  • But they took fire.

  • But they made it. They didn't take --

  • We don't believe, again, it was nation fire.

  • We believe it was individual group fire,

  • or gang fire, as they call it.

  • So, they made it.

  • So, that was a big relief. Then they went in --

  • they blasted their way in, you've heard.

  • They blasted their way in so quickly.

  • It was incredible,

  • 'cause this building was quite powerful, strong.

  • They blasted their way in, and then all hell broke loose.

  • It's incredible that nobody was killed or hurt.

  • We had nobody even hurt.

  • And that's why the dog was so great.

  • We actually had a robot to go in the tunnel,

  • but we didn't get it

  • because we were tracking him very closely.

  • But we had a robot just in case.

  • Because we were afraid he had a suicide vest on,

  • and if you get close to him and he blows it up,

  • you're gonna die. You're gonna die.

  • He had a very powerful suicide vest.

  • -Did you have to make any decisions in the moment,

  • while troops were on the ground?

  • -No, they had it just incredible.

  • We were getting full reports on,

  • literally, a minute-by-minute basis.

  • "Sir, we just broke in.

  • Sir, the wall is down.

  • Sir, you know, we've captured.

  • Sir, two people are coming out right now, hands up --

  • fighters."

  • Then the 11 children out.

  • Numerous people were dead within the building,

  • that they killed.

  • Then it turned out -- They gave us a report,

  • "Sir, there's only one person in the building.

  • We are sure he's in the tunnel, trying to escape,

  • but it's a dead-end tunnel."

  • And it was brutal, but it was over.

  • And as I said, when he blew himself up,

  • the tunnel collapsed on top of him,

  • on top of everything, and his children.

  • I mean, so, he led his three children to death.

  • So, you know.

  • -And in the tunnel, is that when the robot

  • followed him into that -- -The robot was set to,

  • but we didn't hook it up because they were moving too fast --

  • We were moving fast.

  • We weren't 100% sure about the tunnel being dead-ended.

  • It's possible that there could have been an escape hatch

  • somewhere along that we didn't know about.

  • So we moved very, very quickly.

  • I mean, these people -- they were moving --

  • they were chasing, yeah.

  • They were chasing.

  • But again, because the suicide vest, you can't get too close.

  • Again, one of the reasons with the wives

  • is if they have a suicide vest,

  • you know, you have to be very, very careful.

  • These vests are brutal.

  • Brutal. And they go for a long distance.

  • Yes, please?

  • -Have you spoken, or will you speak

  • to the families like the Foley family?

  • -I'm calling the families now.

  • It will be a pleasure to do that.

  • The Foley family, who I know, we'll be calling Kayla's family.

  • What he did to her was incredible.

  • It's a well-known story,

  • and I'm not gonna say it, but you know that.

  • He kept her in captivity for a long period of time.

  • He kept her in his captivity, his personal captivity.

  • She's was a beautiful woman -- beautiful young woman.

  • Helped people. She was there to help people.

  • And he saw her and thought she was beautiful.

  • And he brought her into captivity

  • for a long period of time, and then he killed her.

  • He was an animal.

  • And he was a gutless animal.

  • Thank you all very much.

  • I appreciate it.

  • Very great day for our country.

-Last night, the United States

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