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  • >> WE HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED.

  • IT WAS MY IDEA.

  • WHEN I HEARD VERY SIMPLY THEY

  • KILLED ONE OF OUR SOLDIERS, 12

  • OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE I SAID

  • THERE IS NO WAY I'M MEETINGS ON

  • THAT BASIS, THERE IS NO WAY OF

  • MEETING.

  • THEY'RE DEAD AS FAR AS I'M

  • CONCERNED.

  • BRIAN: THAT IS THE PRESIDENT

  • YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT WHY HE

  • CUT OFF THE CAMP DAVID TALKS

  • WITH THE TALIBAN AND THE SITTING

  • GOVERNMENT.

  • SITTING WITH US IS SOMEBODY THAT

  • HAS SEEN IT ALL, LIVED IT ALL,

  • FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE UNDER

  • GEORGE W. BUSH, AUTHOR OF THE

  • ECONOMICS.

  • BETTER WORLD, CHOICES TO END THE

  • COLD WAR, TO CREATE A GLOBAL

  • COMMONWEALTH.

  • I THINK WAS A ALMOST A SIMPLER

  • TIME, MISS SECRETARY.

  • >> SEEMS LIKE IT.

  • BRIAN: DO YOU THINK THE

  • PRESIDENT MADE A GOOD MOVE TO

  • INVITATION TO CAMP DAVID NUMBER

  • ONE AND CANCELING TO THE

  • CONFERENCE, NUMBER TWO?

  • >> LET ME SPEAK TO THE CANCELING

  • OF THE CONFERENCE.

  • IT WAS A GOOD DECISION.

  • I AM FRANKLY RELIEVED.

  • ALL THE SIGNS WERE THAT THE

  • TALIBAN WAS NOT SERIOUS ABOUT AN

  • AGREEMENT ACCEPTABLE TO US.

  • THE SIGNS WERE THEY WOULDN'T

  • EVEN STALK TO THE AFGHAN

  • GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN OUR

  • PARTNER, DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED

  • GOVERNMENT FOR DECADE 1/2.

  • THEY WOULD NOT MAKE GUARANTIES

  • NOT HAVING TERRORISTS COME BACK

  • ON THEIR TERRITORY.

  • WE REALLY CAN'T SIGN AN

  • AGREEMENT THAT WILL UNDO ALL OF

  • THE FINES OVER THE LAST 18

  • YEARS.

  • SO I WAS RELIEVED, AS TO CAMP

  • DAVID I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY

  • CHOSEN ANOTHER VENUE,

  • PARTICULARLY THIS WEEK AS WE

  • LOOK TOMORROW TO THE ANNIVERSARY

  • OF 9/11.

  • IT IS NOT THAT CAMP DAVID IS IN

  • SOME SENSE SACRED IN THAT WAY.

  • PLO WAS PROBABLY A TERRORIST

  • ORGANIZATION WHEN ARAFAT WENT

  • THERE BUT THE TIMING WASN'T

  • IDEAL.

  • LISA: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE

  • PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL DIPLOMACY

  • APPROACH, WILLINGNESS TO SIT

  • DOWN WITH THE TALIBAN?

  • >> IF IN FACT LOOKED LIKE THERE

  • WAS A GOOD DEAL TO CLOSE, ALL

  • WARS HAVE TO END AND PRESIDENTS

  • HAVE TO BE END THEM.

  • I NEVER-MINDED THE PRESIDENT HAS

  • TO DO PERSONAL DIPLOMACY.

  • YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS

  • WELL-PREPARED.

  • WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UNITED STATES TO GO IN,

  • SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN.

  • LISA: IS IT WELL-PREPARED?

  • >> LOOKS TO ME IF THIS ONE WAS

  • NOT QUITE THERE.

  • I KNOW HIM VERY WELL.

  • HE WORKED FOR ME.

  • HE IS A CAPABLE NEGOTIATOR.

  • BRIAN: BORN IN AFGHANISTAN.

  • >> BORN IN AFGHANISTAN.

  • KNOWS THE CULTURE, BUT SEEMS TO

  • ME HAD KIND OF IMPOSSIBLE TASK

  • AT THIS POINT TO TRY TO FIND AN

  • AGREEMENT THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO

  • US.

  • THE TALIBAN I ALSO THINK HAD

  • BEGUN TO THINK WE WANTED AN

  • AGREEMENT MORE THAN THEY DID

  • BECAUSE OF ALL THAT HAS BEEN

  • SAID, NOT JUST IN THIS

  • ADMINISTRATION ABOUT PULLING OUT

  • TROOPS, REMEMBER THE PULLING OUT

  • TROOPS GOES BACK TO THE OBAMA

  • ADMINISTRATION AND SO THEY HAVE

  • KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME AMERICA

  • WANTS TO END THIS WAR.

  • I THINK THEY THOUGHT WE WOULD

  • END IT ON ANY TERMS.

  • STEVE: ABSOLUTELY.

  • THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

  • RIGHT NOW.

  • YOU IN YOUR NEW BOOK, TO BUILD A

  • BETTER WORLD, LOOK BACK AT THE

  • COLD WAR, THE LAST 40 YEARS OF,

  • WHAT IS THE MAIN TAKEAWAY FOR

  • YOU IN DESCRIBING WHAT YOU HAVE

  • TAB KELED HERE?

  • >> THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS ONE I

  • THINK RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE

  • LOOKING AT IN AFGHANISTAN.

  • IN ORDER TO BRING THAT BETTER

  • WORLD ABOUT IN 1989, '90s, 91,

  • GERMANY WILL BE UNIFIED 30 YEARS

  • NEXT YEAR.

  • WE HAD TO BE PATIENT, RESILIENT.

  • THEY STAYED IN EUROPE FROM 1945,

  • FOR 45 YEARS UNTIL GERMANY WAS

  • UNIFIED.

  • WE HAVE BEEN IN KOREA SINCE 1953

  • TO MAKE SURE THAT KOREA AND THE

  • KOREAN PENINSULA STAYS PEACEFUL.

  • I THINK THE REAL LESSON OF THIS

  • BOOK YOU CAN HAVE GREAT

  • DIPLOMACY WHICH WE DID AT THE

  • END OF COLD WAR WITH

  • GEORGE H.W. BUSH AND BRENT

  • SCOWCROFT AND JIM BAKER HELMUT

  • KOHL.

  • >> AND THE GERMANS WHICH WERE SO

  • EXTRAORDINARY.

  • IT WAS A BASIS OF FRIENDSHIP,

  • ALLIANCE, 45 YEARS AND AMERICAN

  • STEADFASTNESS, WILLING TO STAY

  • THE COURSE UNTIL THE TERMS WERE

  • RIGHT.

  • THAT'S A LESSON FOR ANY DIPLOMAT

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