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  • YOU'VE GOT THREE LANES WHAT THE

  • COMMITTEE WILL DO, MY COMMITTEE,

  • YOU'VE GOT MR. DURHAM, LOOKING

  • AT CRIMINAL IT, THE U.S.

  • ATTORNEY IN CONNECTICUT AND

  • THE HOROWITZ INSPECTOR GENERAL

  • REPORT THAT I THINK WILL BE

  • COMING OUT IN WEEKS NOT DAYS NOT

  • MONTHS AND I BELIEVE THE REPORT

  • IS GOING TO BE UGLY REGARDING

  • THE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE HANDLING

  • OF THE RUSSIAN PROBE.

  • I'M GOING TO MAKE WITH THE LT.

  • GENERAL NEXT WEEK AND I WANT TO

  • DECLASSIFY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

  • AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO HEAR

  • THE STORY.

  • I WANT ALL OF THIS INFORMATION

  • TO COME OUT AND I DON'T WANT

  • PEOPLE TO BELIEVE WHAT I SAID, I

  • WANT THEM TO READ FOR THEMSELVES

  • , HOW BAD IT WAS, HOW

  • THE WARRANT APPLICATION TO THE

  • FISA COURT I THINK WAS QUITE

  • FRANKLY A FRAUD ON THE COURT.

  • MARIA: A FRAUD ON THE COURT.

  • THAT WAS SENATE JUDICIARY

  • COMMITTEE MIX LINDSEY GRAHAM ON

  • THIS PROGRAM LAST WEEK UPDATING

  • US ON THE MULTIPLE INVESTIGATION

  • S INTO THE ALLEGED

  • FISA ABUSE AND POTENTIAL

  • WRONGDOING IN LAUNCHING THE

  • RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.

  • MY NEXT GUEST IS A CENTRAL

  • FIGURE FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN

  • FOREIGN POLICY ADVISOR CARTER

  • PAGE AND CARTER IT'S WONDERFUL

  • TO HAVE YOU.

  • >> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU MARIA.

  • MARIA: YOU HAVE AN ESTEEMED

  • CAREER I WANT TO START THERE

  • BECAUSE OUR VIEWERS KNOW THAT

  • WE'VE COVERED THIS STORY VERY

  • EFFECTIVELY FROM THE GET GO,

  • POKING HOLES IN THIS WHOLE IDEA

  • OF COLLUSION, POKING HOLES IN

  • THE FISA COURT SITUATION, BUT

  • YOU HAVE WORKED WITH THE

  • GOVERNMENT FOR A LONG TIME,

  • BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY TURNED ON

  • YOU.

  • TELL ME YOUR CAREER AS A

  • GOVERNMENT INFORMANT AFTER YOU

  • WORKED AT THE PENTAGON AND AFTER

  • IN THE NAVY TELL US ABOUT IT.

  • >> WELL I GOT OUT OF THE NAVY

  • IN 98 AND I WAS ON A RESEARCH

  • FELLOWSHIP AT A FOREIGN POLICY

  • THINK TANK AND I WAS ACTUALLY

  • THE FIRST TIME IT'S A CIVILIAN

  • AS YOU MENTIONED I SPENT A LOT

  • OF TIME DOING INTELLIGENCE TASKS

  • IN THE MILITARY, BUT THAT WAS

  • THE FIRST TIME WHEN I ACTUALLY

  • DID STUFF AS A CIVILIAN, AND SO

  • ONE OF THE GUYS I WORKED CLOSELY

  • WITH WAS CHRIS STEVENS WHO WAS

  • THE IRAN DESK OFFICER AT THE

  • STATE DEPARTMENT IN 98-99 AND WE

  • HAD A LONG ONGOING DIALOGUE, AND

  • SO A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN

  • WHAT HAPPENED WITH HIM, AND THE

  • LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY BY THESE

  • DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATIONS.

  • THAT WAS DURING THE CLINTON

  • ADMINISTRATION, BUT THE ALSO OF

  • HIS LIFE WAS REALLY A

  • CONTINUATION OF THAT.

  • MARIA: SO THE BOTTOM LYNN IS

  • YOU'VE WORKED AS A GOVERNMENT

  • INFORMANT FOR WHAT, TWO DECADES?

  • >> YES.

  • MARIA: OKAY, AND SOMEWHERE ALONG

  • THE LINE, THEY OBVIOUSLY TURNED

  • ON YOU, BECAUSE THEY WIRETAPPED

  • YOU.

  • >> YEAH.

  • MARIA: FAST FORWARD TO 2013 OR

  • SO WHEN YOU ARE AN INFORMANT FOR

  • GOVERNMENT ABOUT A SPY RING IN

  • NEW YORK, INVOLVING THREE

  • RUSSIANS.

  • >> YEAH, WELL LISTEN.

  • IT WAS SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS

  • A LOT, THEY DID AN INDICTMENT.

  • I SPENT TIME WITH THE FBI IN

  • 2013 GIVING THEM ALL OF THE

  • INFORMATION THEY NEEDED.

  • MARIA: THIS IS UNDER THE OBAMA

  • ADMINISTRATION.

  • >> IT WAS UNDER THE OBAMA

  • ADMINISTRATION AND THEN A NUMBER

  • OF TOP OFFICIALS, ATTORNEY

  • GENERAL HOLDER, U.S. ATTORNEY

  • AND JOHN CARLIN IN JANUARY OF

  • 2015 A YEAR BEFORE THE START OF

  • THE WHEN I JOINED THE I WAS A

  • VOLUNTEER ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,

  • THEY HAD THIS INDICTMENT, AND IT

  • WAS JUST --

  • MARIA: OF THE THREE RUSSIANS.

  • >> YEAH, OF THE THREE RUSSIANS

  • AND SO I WAS ONE OF THE MAIN

  • SOURCES.

  • I'M "MALE 1".

  • MARIA: THAT'S INTERESTING,

  • BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A

  • TIMELINE IN 2013 YOU'RE MALE

  • NUMBER ONE AND THEY INDICT THESE

  • PEOPLE AND THE INDICTMENT COMES

  • DOWN IN JANUARY 2015 AND THEY

  • NAME YOU.

  • >> WELL THERE'S THIS BIG THING

  • ABOUT MASKS AND UNMASKING AND I

  • WAS VERY LIGHTLY MASKED AND

  • THERE ARE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN

  • THAT INDICTMENT AND THEY REALLY

  • KIND OF PUT ME OUT ON A LIMB.

  • MARIA: THAT'S WHAT I

  • MARIA: I'M BACK WITH FORMER

  • TRUMP CAMPAIGN FOREIGN POLICY

  • ADVISOR CARTER PAGE AND YOU WERE

  • TELLING US ABOUT THIS CASE THAT

  • YOU HELPED THE GOVERNMENT WITH.

  • TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015

  • AFTER THE INDICTMENT WAS

  • HANDED DOWN ON THE RUSSIANS.

  • >> WELL REALLY, IN MARCH OF

  • 2016, THEY CALLED ME INTO COME

  • TESTIFY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT

  • OF NEW YORK.

  • MARIA: ON THAT CASE?

  • >> YEAH, AND LISTEN, THERE WERE

  • SO MANY FALSEHOODS, AND

  • MISREPRESENTATIONS IN THEIR

  • INDICTMENT THE PRIOR-YEAR.

  • I SAID I AM NOT GOING TO LIE IN

  • COURT.

  • SIMILAR TO THE FALSE COURT

  • FILINGS WITH THE DOJ AND THE FBI

  • HAS SUBMITTED IN THIS CASE, AND

  • SO IT WAS A LONG BACK AND FORTH

  • WITH THEM BUT I TOLD THEM, I AM

  • A MAN OF MY WORD AND I'M NOT

  • GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE

  • FALSE TESTIMONY LIKE THEY'VE

  • DONALD VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN THE

  • FALSE TESTIMONY WHICH THEY DID

  • AND THAT CASE AGAINST THE

  • RUSSIANS, AND THE FALSE

  • TESTIMONY WHICH THEY DID A FEW

  • MONTHS LATER IN OCTOBER OF 2016

  • WITH THEIR START OF THE

  • FISA ABUSE.

  • MARIA: YOU NEVER ACTUALLY

  • TESTIFIED IN THE SPY RING CIRCUS

  • IN TERMS OF THAT, BUT THIS ALL

  • GOES TO GOVERNMENT INFORM APTS

  • AND YOU COULD LOOK AT PATRICK BY

  • RNE FROM OVERSTOCK.COM RIGHT?

  • >> WELL BASICALLY GOVERNMENT IS

  • TAKING CONTROL OF PEOPLE'S LIVES

  • I MEAN, I'VE LOST STEPS OF

  • HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

  • AND HE LOST A COUPLE HUNDRED

  • MILLION OFF HIS MARKET CAP JUST

  • BASED ON THESE FALSEHOODS.

  • MARIA: YOU MEAN THE STOCK LOST

  • HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?

  • >> YES.

YOU'VE GOT THREE LANES WHAT THE

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卡特-佩吉解釋了他作為政府線人的工作情況。 (Carter Page explains his work as a government informant)

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