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Gambino oh my god oh yes this is America childish gambino

甘比諾哦，我的上帝哦，是的，這就是美國幼稚的甘比諾。

yeah dude hang on I'm gonna turn it up I love this song so much oh my god my

是的，夥計，等一下，我要把它打開，我愛這首歌這麼多，哦，我的上帝。

cousin Maeby reacted is he's such an amazing artist I actually haven't seen

表妹Maeby的反應是，他是這樣一個驚人的藝術家，我居然沒有看到。

the video like I just saw some stuff on Twitter what starts off super like super

視頻就像我剛剛看到的一些東西在Twitter上什麼開始了超級喜歡超級。

nice and then it gets super intense

很好，然後就會變得非常激烈

there's so much symbolism in this music video

有這麼多的象徵意義 在這個音樂視頻

he's killed this girl is so nasty that was shocking cuz like that's when he

他殺了這個女孩是如此的討厭 這是令人震驚的，因為就像當他

immediately knew is taking a turn that gun was being dragged off very gently

馬上就知道是轉了個彎，槍被很溫柔地拖走了。

well this dead body is just being dragged off without a care his demos are

這具屍體就這樣被人無情地拖走了 他的試片，試映片都被人拿走了

really good too I loved his performance in this oh my god there's so much chaos

我也很喜歡他在裡面的表演 我的天啊，真是太亂了

hey Wilson this is e my boy well oh my gosh it's so weird to be crazy coming

嘿，威爾遜，這是我的兒子 好吧，我的天哪，這是很奇怪的瘋狂來了

into the audition process they were just like oh we just have a huge artist this

進入試鏡過程中，他們只是喜歡 哦，我們只是有一個巨大的藝術家，這個

this will be one of his last songs it's gonna be great they played the song and

這將是他的最後一首歌之一 這將是偉大的 他們播放了這首歌和

rehearsal we were like trying to guess who was this and then he walked in he

排練時我們都在猜測他是誰，然後他走了進來，他...

kind of told us like even though the song is aggressive we have to be the one

樣的告訴我們，即使這首歌是積極的，我們必須是一個。

to be the happiness symbolizing that pop culture is kind of like it takes the

是幸福的象徵，流行文化是一種像它採取的幸福。

center stage of public consciousness where when there's all this like

公眾意識的中心舞臺，當有這一切像

violence happening in the background and no one's noticing it because everyone's

暴力事件發生在背景中，沒有人注意到它，因為每個人都在。

just dancing and partying away

舞文弄墨

well there's so much going on at once there's so much going on I every time I

好了，有這麼多的事情在一次 有這麼多的事情，我每次我

watch it I catch a new thing

看著看著我就有了新發現

oh that part made my heart sink the most that was like I like the gun shoot at

哦，那部分讓我的心最下沉 那是像我喜歡的槍拍在

the beginning that one was shocking but that one got me the most cuz I feel like

開始的時候，那一個是令人震驚的，但那一個讓我最，因為我覺得像

I was almost tied to like Charleston to where it was just like heart wrenching

我幾乎被綁到了像查爾斯頓一樣的地方，它只是像心痛的地方

it's the light goosebumps my arm to see this like I saw

看到這個，我的手臂都起雞皮疙瘩了，就像我看到的一樣。

it live but to see it all come together it's still giving me goosebumps I'm

但看到這一切都在一起的時候 我還是起了一身雞皮疙瘩

pretty sure it's gonna impact everybody's lives and make them think

相當肯定的是，它會影響 每個人的生活，讓他們認為

it's really cynical at the same time it was just so much chaos going on around

真是玩世不恭的同時也是亂象叢生啊

us or it was just like you have to stay focused and just focus on the dance you

我們或它只是喜歡你必須保持專注，只是專注於舞蹈，你。

just be happy the whole time this part this part gave me chills when I watch it

只要開心就好了，這部分這部分讓我看的時候很寒心。

for the first time everything about this it's like blinking you miss it

第一次，這一切的一切就像眨眼一樣，你錯過了。

I'm pretty sure that's isn't it says I love her too just like it's genius this

我敢肯定，這是不是說我也愛她，就像它的天才一樣。

is beautiful cinematography I really really liked all the shots that they've

是美麗的電影攝影 我真的很喜歡他們的所有鏡頭。

been doing you could just see the fear in his face oh my God look at that whoa

你可以看到他臉上的恐懼 哦，我的上帝，看那個哇。

gives me chills this music video the song is everything about it is beautiful

讓我不寒而慄這個音樂視頻 這首歌是一切關於它是美麗的

I see what you mean is doing where it's like talking about pop culture but then

我明白你的意思是在做什麼，它就像談論流行文化，但隨後。

also bringing in that seriousness of this is America and it's so just

也帶來了嚴重性，這是美國，它是如此的只是。

artistically cool but also just heart-wrenching to watch so we know that

藝術上的酷，但也只是心痛的觀看，所以我們知道。

you're not a college kid but since you were actually in part of the video we

你不是一個大學的孩子，但因為你 實際上在視頻的一部分，我們

wanted to bring you in to give us further insight thank you when they

想請你來給我們進一步的洞察力 謝謝你，當他們。

first you know showed us the set and they were like okay let's start shooting

首先，你知道給我們展示了一組，他們就像 好吧，讓我們開始拍攝。

it and we were like okay let's see how this looks and then we look in to like

它和我們一樣，好吧，讓我們看看這個樣子，然後我們看在像

the TV screen and we're looking a playback we're like wow like it's gonna

電視屏幕上，我們正在尋找一個回放 我們像哇像要去

blow everybody's mind so that was the music video for this is America the

吹每個人的心靈，所以這是音樂視頻 這就是美國。

newest single by rapper childish gambino obviously you've seen this before yeah I

最新的單曲由說唱歌手幼稚的甘比諾 顯然，你已經看到了這之前，是的，我

mean who has it so many people are pointing out that there is an

意思是誰有它這麼多的人都指出有一個

overwhelming amount of cultural allusions and symbolism found in the

中的大量文化典故和象徵意義。

video although we can't show you everything because the scenes are still

雖然我們不能向你展示所有的視頻，因為場景仍然是

being dissected we're gonna show you some of the most talked about moments

剖析我們要向你展示一些最引人關注的時刻

and get your thoughts on them okay cool cuz he I know I like already as soon as

並得到你的想法，他們好酷，因為他我知道我已經喜歡，只要。

this music video dropped everyone on Twitter was just giving their own

這個音樂視頻下降每個人都在Twitter上只是給自己的

analysis so here's the first one oh yeah yeah the whole Jim Crow thing is

分析，所以這裡的第一個 哦，是啊是啊，整個吉姆-克勞的事情是。

I mean just a Twitter you know Twitter's an encyclopedia for everything these

我的意思是隻是一個Twitter，你知道Twitter的百科全書一切這些

days I heard that he was he was like modeling after a painting but I didn't

我聽說他... ...他就像一幅畫的模特兒，但我沒有。

know like what it was for him to subtly drop that in there unless you knew about

知道像它是什麼 他巧妙地下降，在那裡，除非你知道。

it unless he really went digging for it you wouldn't have known so several

除非他真的去挖掘它，你不會知道這麼幾個

reports have noted that the video seems to tackle various social issues

報道指出，該視頻似乎涉及各種社會問題。

including police brutality gun violence all while dancing in a Jim Crow style

包括警察暴行和槍支暴力 所有這些都是在吉姆-克勞風格的舞蹈中進行的

caricature a type of anti-black imagery that was meant for entertainment in the

漫畫式的反黑形象，是一種娛樂性的漫畫。

19th and 20th century why do you think that can be no decided to include this

19世紀和20世紀為什麼你認為可以沒有決定包括這一點

in his video because as much as we want to say that things have changed a lot of

在他的視頻中，因為儘管我們想說，事情已經改變了很多。

things happened he's trying to bring to the

發生的事情，他試圖將其帶到

forefront that all these issues that happen in the past haven't really been

所有這些發生在過去的問題並沒有真正被解決。

solved yet because we're really as a country we're really distracted Jim Crow

還沒有解決，因為我們真的是 作為一個國家，我們真的心煩意亂 吉姆-克勞。

especially like that whole image of him was supposed to bring down black people

特別是像他的整個形象 應該是把黑人帶壞了

so the fact that like Gambino himself as a black man is sort of like taking that

所以，事實上，像甘比諾本人作為一個黑人是有點像拿著那個

himself and doing it himself is kind of showing like I'm taking ownership of

自己和自己做是一種表現，就像我的所有權的

this now so you can't hurt me with it anymore a lot of people probably don't

現在這樣你就不能再用它來傷害我了 很多人可能都不知道...

even know about this stuff and it's like for an artist to use their medium to

甚至知道這些東西，它就像一個藝術家使用他們的媒介，以

educate somebody while also entertaining them it's pretty needed yeah they just

教育別人的同時也娛樂他們，這是非常需要的，是的，他們只是。

threw someone off the off the balcony I just see like people being chased by

把人從陽臺上扔下來 我只看到像人被追趕的樣子

police go ahead and watch it again okay oh my god I did not notice that I was

警察再看一遍吧 好吧，我的天啊，我沒注意到我是...

just so distracted by the dancing when you were watching the dancing it makes

只是如此心煩意亂的舞蹈 當你在看舞蹈它使

you not realize what's going on in the background then we talked about news

你不知道發生了什麼事在後面，然後我們談到了新聞。

outlets or like even like different types of media it's like they try and

出口或喜歡甚至喜歡不同類型的媒體 它像他們嘗試和

distract you with one story to lead you away from another story so I pointed out

用一個故事分散你的注意力，讓你遠離另一個故事，所以我指出了

that it could also reflect the notion that our society lusts to emulate and be

這也反映了我們的社會渴望效仿和被效仿的觀念。

entertained by black entertainers yet ignore the hardships african-americans

被黑人藝人娛樂卻忽略了非洲裔美國人的艱辛。

face in this country yeah he's almost kind of saying like we only love black

在這個國家的臉 是啊，他幾乎是一種說 像我們只愛黑

people when they're like giving us something like fun and cool but then

人，當他們像給我們的東西 像有趣的和涼爽的，但隨後。

we're ignoring them when they have issues that they're facing themselves I

我們忽略了他們，當他們有問題，他們面臨自己的問題，我。

feel a hundred percent of like movement everything like my legs matter and it's

感覺百分之百的喜歡運動的一切 就像我的腿的問題，它是。

so important but it's not only affecting like that because you see it also with

如此重要，但它不僅影響這樣的，因為你看到它也與。

the Latino culture and you see it with like every single other culture

拉美文化和你看到它與像每一個其他文化

yeah by now this I know you're gonna talk about this part because his lines

是的，現在我知道你會談論這部分，因為他的臺詞。

it goes it's a seller which is being cellphone

它去它是一個賣家，這是被行動電話

and they says yeah that's a tool the moment something happens we have to

他們說，是的，這是一個工具的時刻 事情發生的時候，我們必須。

report right away instead of helping like if there's two people fighting we

立即報告，而不是幫助像 如果有兩個人打架，我們

never people don't help they were courting a lot of people tend to like

從來都是人云亦云 他們在追求很多人喜歡的東西

when they when they see something wrong instead of like trying to intervene they

當他們當他們看到的東西錯了，而不是像試圖干預，他們

just kind of just videotape it and just stay on the side well Sally I think

只是一種只是錄像帶，只是停留在一邊好莎莉我想。

could maybe have it's like a double entendre where it's a cell phone but

也許可以有它像一個雙關語 其中它是一個手機，但。

also like a prism cell so you know there's a lot of police brutality that's

也像一個稜鏡細胞 所以你知道有很多警察的暴力 這是

been brought to the surface because people have filmed it videotaping police

因為有人拍下了警察的錄像，所以被曝光了。

brutality is the only way to combat it because you know Anna your word versus

殘暴是打擊它的唯一方法，因為你知道安娜你的話與。

their word situation you're never gonna win why a white horn dude that's one of

他們的字的情況下，你永遠不會贏 為什麼一個白色的角花花公子，這是其中的一個

the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse for sure

天啟四騎士

it's weird I thought the horse would freak out because of all the chaos and

真奇怪，我還以為馬會嚇壞了，因為所有的混亂和。

the fire and everything but the horse was very professional so in this scene

火和一切，但馬是非常專業的，所以在這個場景下

we see a hooded figure riding a horse followed by a cop car which a lot of

我們看到一個蒙面人騎著一匹馬 跟在一輛警車後面，其中有很多的

people believe is an allusion to the Horsemen of the Apocalypse

啟示錄 "的典故。

interesting there's just so many people dying and no one cares and no one's

有趣的是，有這麼多的人死亡 而沒有人關心，沒有人的。

really trying to do anything and that's like the country that we live in yeah I

真正試圖做任何事情，這就像我們生活的國家 是的，我。

think alike especially with the church one with all the gospel singers like

特別是與教會的所有福音歌手一樣的想法。

that reminded me of the shooting that happened in the south and in the church

這讓我想起了發生在南方和教堂的槍擊事件。

after every shooting it's a red car cloth what you're saying that the guns

每次開槍後都是紅車布 你說的是什麼槍？

are more more important than the humans and the red is supposed to represent the

是比人類更重要的，紅色應該是代表了。

blood on set they were just like oh by the way one of the kids is gonna hold a

血的設置，他們只是喜歡 哦，順便說一句，其中一個孩子是要去舉行一個

real gun if you guys don't mind the parents were like hey a real gun is it

真槍，如果你們不介意的話，父母就會說，嘿，真槍是嗎？

loaded and they're like no no no it's not loaded but he's gonna have to put in

他們就像不不不，這不是加載，但他要去必須把。

his hands and then just give it away right away it just made me feel like

他的手，然後只是給它的權利了 這只是讓我覺得像... ...

there are a lot of people in power who would rather protect guns than protect

有很多當權者寧願保護槍支也不願意保護

people's lives this one was to is kind of showing how like black bodies aren't

人們的生活，這一個是對是一種顯示如何像黑人的身體是不是。

treated like fairly or gently or anything like that at all like people

公平地對待或溫柔地對待或任何類似的東西，在所有喜歡的人。

don't care about them enough but God forbid you take away my gun topic about

不關心他們足夠的，但上帝保佑你 奪走我的槍的主題，關於

guns are so complicated I'm just scared about giving the whole power to a

槍支太複雜了，我只是害怕把整個權力交給一個人而已

government and you being unable to defend yourself at at the same time if

政府和你無法保護自己在同一時間，如果。

there's no like regulation for it that's freaking scary now that the video has

有沒有像它的監管 這是嚇壞了，現在的視頻有

been released what are your feelings towards how the video has been received

已發佈的視頻已收到什麼你的感覺如何？

by critics in the general public I felt like this was just another video to

由評論家在大眾我覺得這只是另一個視頻，以

spread awareness and he portrayed it perfectly so as you've seen the video

傳播意識，他完美地描繪了它，所以你已經看到了視頻。

has a lot going on in some point the videos worth multiple viewings

有很多事情在某些點上的視頻值得多次觀看。

because you don't really catch everything the first time you watch it

因為你第一次看的時候，並不是真的什麼都聽懂了

100% I've seen it four times that I still don't catch everything the song

100% 我看了四遍，還是沒聽懂歌的意思

itself shifts throughout going from happy upbeat verses to that dark and

在整個過程中，它的變化從快樂歡快的詩句到黑暗和

aggressive chorus we broke down some of the most important parts of the video

侵略性的合唱，我們打破了一些最重要的部分的視頻。

for you what form the video stood out to you the most I think the most jarring

對於你來說，什麼形式的視頻最突出的你，我認為最刺眼的是

part of it honestly it was like the gun handling and shooting I think the first

它的一部分，說實話，這就像槍的操作和射擊，我想第一。

scene is what caught my eye the most cuz I like I saw people like tweeting about

現場是什麼引起了我的眼睛，因為我喜歡我看到的人喜歡推特約

it a ton and then you watch it and you don't really know what's gonna happen

它一噸，然後你看它 你真的不知道會發生什麼事

and then he shoots the guy and then it just mayhem occurs what's standing out

然後他開槍的傢伙，然後它只是 混亂髮生什麼站出來

the most is that like especially the ending we're trying to like get away

最重要的是，喜歡特別是結局，我們試圖像擺脫。

from these problems what we're living in them still and we can't get out the most

我們仍然生活在這些問題中，而我們卻不能從這些問題中解脫出來。

important part from you was just the overall symbolism of how of how the guns

重要的部分從你只是整體的象徵意義如何如何的槍支。

were being treated with more respect than actual human beings lives because I

比真正的人的生命更受尊重，因為我...

feel like it's very relevant and with especially with like all these gun

感覺它是非常相關的，特別是與 像所有這些槍支

control problems and all these shootings that have been happening lately there's

控制問題和所有這些槍擊事件 最近已經發生了。

this hope yet there's this cynicism I like the juxtaposition between the the

這種希望，但也有這種玩世不恭的態度 我喜歡這兩者之間的並列。

children and teens who are dancing while there is so much violence happening in

兒童和青少年誰是跳舞，而有這麼多的暴力事件發生在。

the background so you've been involved in a lot of music videos and other

所以你參與了很多的音樂錄像和其他的工作。

exciting opportunities throughout your career but how does it feel to be a part

在您的職業生涯中，有很多令人興奮的機會，但成為其中一員的感覺如何？

of something that's causing several important conversations in our society

的東西，在我們的社會中引起了幾個重要的對話。

the video dropped around Saturday night and I went on my phone right away and

視頻掉落約星期六晚上，我去了我的手機馬上和

people already texting me and were like are you in this video was that you I'm

人們已經發短信給我，並像你在這個視頻是你我的。

happy that I was able to be a part of something that everybody's talking about

很高興我能夠參與到大家都在談論的事情中來。

in a in a great way none of us knew that the group us have

在一個偉大的方式 我們沒有人知道，組我們有

guns none of us knew about the choir being shot or anything but Childish ever

我們都不知道唱詩班被槍殺的事，但Childish卻知道。

or Donald or mr. Glover he came up to us and he was like you guys whenever you

或唐納德或格洛弗先生 他走到我們面前，他就像你們一樣，每當你們... ...

guys feel uncomfortable just tell me and let me know and I'll stop it and we

你們覺得不舒服，就告訴我，讓我知道，我會阻止它，我們。

could take a step back take a break come up to me or the director and I'll take

可以退後一步，休息一下，來找我或導演，我就會把

care of you guys like that was one thing I respect this man 100% and I'm it's so

照顧你們這樣的是一件事我尊重這個人100％，我是如此的

overwhelming to be in this man's vision for his video and I felt like this was

在這個人的視頻願景中，我覺得這是壓倒性的。

so creative while you were filming did you think he was gonna have this big

這麼有創意，當你拍攝時，你認為他是要去有這個大的

I okay I did all the parents they were just kind of like like what's going on

我好吧，我做了所有的父母 他們只是有點像什麼是怎麼回事？

there's so much chaos and I was like trust me I trust mr. Bluebird I trust

有這麼多的混亂，我很喜歡 相信我，我相信藍鳥先生，我相信。

hero I just a director and you know I trust a choreographer and I was like you

英雄我只是一個導演，你知道我信任一個編舞家，我就像你一樣。

know what they're going for this 100% I am too and I was like this is gonna take

我也是，我想這是要去的，我知道他們要去這個100％。

over the world when these types of videos are released that depicts some

在世界範圍內，當這些類型的視頻被釋放，描繪一些。

issues within this country and focus on racial undertones they almost always

在這個國家的問題上，他們幾乎總是集中在種族內涵上。

cause divisions between people as both left and right can get very vocal over

引起人與人之間的分歧，因為左右兩邊都會對這一問題大發雷霆

their opposing viewpoints do you think that this type of reaction and

他們的對立觀點你認為這種類型的反應和。

conversation is good or bad to come from a music video I think it's amazing that

對話是好是壞來自音樂視頻我認為這是驚人的。

you can have such a music video or they could have a music video that's so

你可以有這樣的音樂錄影帶 或者他們可以有一個音樂錄影帶是如此的

profound that it causes this kind of political reaction this video generates

深刻的，它引起了這種政治反應，這個視頻產生了

valuable discussion things can change but nothing's gonna happen unless people

有價值的討論，事情可以改變，但什麼也不會發生，除非人們。

talk about it I already know millions of people have already watched this video

說說看吧 我已經知道有幾百萬人看了這個視頻了

today and I feel like that's you know it needs to be talked about and it needs it

今天，我覺得像 你知道它需要被談論，它需要它。

needs to be shown like everyone needs to see this kind of stuff and realize like

需要顯示像每個人都需要看到這樣的東西，並意識到像。

what's actually happening people pay attention to pop culture and

實際上發生了什麼 人們關注流行文化和。

entertainment and that's exactly what Gambino is trying to get across

而這正是甘比諾想表達的意思

even though race is such a like a politically charged issue it's still

即使種族是這樣的像一個政治激烈的問題，它仍然是。

gonna start conversations between people to hopefully open each other's eyes kind

會開始人們之間的對話，希望打開對方的眼睛種。

of thing and understand each other's perspectives more if we can't talk about