Name: 【TED】塞雷娜-威廉姆斯和蓋爾-金。關於網球、愛情和母愛 (On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King) (【TED】Serena Williams and Gayle King: On tennis, love and motherhood (On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King))
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T07:31:10.000Z
Duration: 18 min 29 s

Gayle King: Have a seat, Serena Williams,

情態助動詞 A2

蓋爾·金：請坐，塞雷娜·威廉姆絲，

或是應該說「請坐吧，母親。」

in that great yellow bathing suit last week

大家都看到塞雷娜上周發佈的， 穿著黃色泳裝的照片，

and when I saw it, all I could think of was,

當我看到那張照片的時候， 我一直在想：

"Gosh, why couldn't she have waited til we sat onstage for TED?"

「天哪，她為什麼不等到 TED 演講時再公開呢？」

and you said nobody was supposed to see that picture.

你說你原來沒打算 讓其他人看到那張照片。

Serena Williams: Well, actually, it was an accident.

I was on vacation, just taking some time for myself,

我當時在度假， 只是給自己留點私人時間，

and I have this thing where I've been checking my status

我就用 Snapchat 檢視自己的狀態，

and taking pictures every week to see how far along I'm going --

每周拍些照片來記錄自己的變化。

蓋爾：然後可能會分享給朋友們？

SW: No, actually I have just been saving it,

塞雷娜：不，其實我只想保存下來。

and I didn't really tell a lot of people,

但是你也知道社交媒體， 按錯了一個按鈕就…

and you know how social media is, you press the wrong button and --

塞雷納：所以 30 分鐘之後… 我的電話向來不怎麼響，

SW: So 30 minutes later -- my phone doesn't ring that much --

30 分鐘之後， 就有四個未接來電，

and 30 minutes later, I missed like four calls,

然後我接了電話。 我心想：「噢，不。」

and then I picked it up and I was like, oh no.

我原本打算再多等個五六天， 沒關係的。

I was gonna wait literally just five or six more days -- that's OK.

蓋爾：我知道，因為這很奇怪， 因為上面只寫了20 週，

GK: I know, because it was weird, Serena, because it only said 20 weeks,

so it's not like there was a whole lot of information on it.

塞雷納：沒錯， 我一直以來都是這麼做的。

SW: Exactly, so that's what I've been doing all this time.

18 週，19 週… 每週我都會拍下照片並保存起來，

18, 19 -- every week I'd just take a picture and save it,

本來一切都很順利， 結果這次失手了。

蓋爾：就這樣公佈出來了。 好吧，恭喜你。

and this was the one time that I slipped.

蓋爾：其實真的挺好。 當你得知這個消息時，

你是興奮，還是害怕或者擔憂？

GK: It really is OK. When you heard the news,

我指的是當你得知懷孕的時候。

were you excited? Were you afraid? Were you worried?

塞雷娜：我是在澳網公開賽 開賽前兩天得知的，

這是最重要的大滿貫比賽之一。

SW: So I heard it two days before the beginning of the Australian Open,

塞雷娜：是的，兩天前才知道。 我非常緊張。

SW: Yeah, so it was two days before, and I knew.

但那時候我只知道，集中精力 打好澳網公開賽才是最重要的，

我知道開始的 12 週是非常危險，

it was really important for me to just focus right there

蓋爾：但你不僅參加了， 威廉姆絲女士，你還贏了。

and I was definitely not sure what to do.

I know it's very dangerous, maybe, sometimes in the first 12 weeks or so,

蓋爾：我得對你說， 你贏得了 23 場大滿貫賽事冠軍。

GK: But not only did you play, Ms. Williams, you won.

塞雷娜：我只想多打一場障礙賽。

蓋爾：你得知自己懷孕後， 在比賽時有什麼不同？

聽說過很多關於懷孕後的說法， 孕婦會感到噁心和疲憊。

蓋爾：你有晨吐嗎？ 塞雷娜：我運氣不錯，還沒有。

SW: Well, I was looking for another handicap, so ... no.

但她們都感到疲憊和非常緊張，

GK: Did you play differently that game, knowing you were pregnant?

而我必須把這些能量 通通放進紙袋裡，然後扔掉，

因為我覺得真的沒有時間 去處理任何額外的情緒和事情，

You hear all these stories about people when they're pregnant,

無論會否懷孕，沒人知道結果，

而我每次參加賽事， 就應該在那場賽事中取勝。

大家期待我得勝， 而如果我輸了，那將是更大的新聞。

SW: No, I've been so fortunate and so I haven't.

蓋爾：是的，如果你沒有贏， 那將是一件大事。

But they get really tired and they get really stressed out,

塞雷娜：是的，所以對於我來說， 所有的負能量和情緒，

and I had to really take all that energy,

蓋爾：你得到很多支持和愛戴。

because I really felt like I didn't have time

即使我到這裡來時， 人們也在機場攔住我，

to deal with any extra emotions, any extra anything,

我對空服員和機長說： 「猜猜我要去哪裡？」

他們說：「我的天， 我們很高興她懷孕了。」

and I was supposed to win that tournament

來這裡的路上，有人跟我提起 伊利耶·納斯塔塞。

他說了些很刻薄、不適當的， 我敢說含有種族歧視的言論。

and if I don't win, it's actually much bigger news.

GK: Yeah, when you don't win, that's a big story.

SW: Yes, so for me, I had to really take anything negative

and any emotions that I was feeling at that point

但是你回應了， 你為什麼要回應呢？

塞雷娜: 我認為這是 非常不恰當的評論。

and really figure out what the next step for me to do was.

不僅如此，我一直 非常支持我的同胞。

GK: You have a lot of support. You have a lot of love.

Even when I was coming here, people stopped me at the airport.

I was saying to the flight attendant, the pilot, "Guess where I'm going?"

所以對我來說， 支持女性真的很重要。

They said, "Oh my God, we're so glad she's pregnant."

But then you always have these cranky Yankees.

她們會來更衣室， 她們想要與我合照，

On the way over here, somebody was telling me about Ilie Nastase,

who said some very unkind, inappropriate, dare I say racial things.

我非常想作爲她們的優秀領袖 和一個好的榜樣，

I'm not even going to dignify what he said,

不僅是因爲納斯塔塞 對我和我同伴們的粗魯言論，

SW: Well, I think there are very inappropriate comments,

and not only that, I've been really supportive of my peers

and so for me, it's really important to hold women up,

【TED】塞雷娜-威廉姆斯和蓋爾-金。關於網球、愛情和母愛 (On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King) (【TED】Serena Williams and Gayle King: On tennis, love and motherhood (On tennis, love and motherhood | Serena Williams and Gayle King))

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