So a while back I was on The Ellen Show

前一陣子我去了艾倫秀

and Ellen asked me if I would call myself a feminist?

艾倫問我我會不會稱自己是女性主義者？

and I said absolutely would

我就說：當然會

and then recently I gave this interview, journalist was named Marlo Stern

最近有一個記者訪問我，他叫 Marlo Stern

and he asked me what does that mean to you to be a feminist?

他也問我，身為一個女性主義者有什麼想法？

or what does feminism mean to you?

女性主義對我來說又是怎樣的概念？

And I told him that to me, it just means that your gender doesn't have to

我就告訴他，對我來說，女性主義就是你/妳的性別

define who you are that you can be whatever you want to be

不會定義你這個人或你想成為怎樣的人

or whoever you want to be regardless of your gender

你可以做自己，不管性別刻板印象

and this interview got a lot of attention on the internet

這個訪談也引發很多網路上的關注

which I thought was really cool

我覺得這很棒

I think it's a good thing to talk about

這是一件很值得討論的事

and certainly there was a lot of support and I'm very grateful for the people

當然有很多人支持我，我很感謝大家

who are saying that it was cool that I would call myself a feminist

有人說我稱自己是女性主義者很酷

and then there's a lot of people out there who were sort of against

也有些人好像有點排斥

the word feminism and who take it to mean a lot of different things.

「女性主義」這個詞，可能把定義想成很多其他的面向

and I actually wasn't as aware of this. I even found a site called

我本來還不知道，一直到我發現有一個網站叫做

women against feminism.tumblr.com

「女性反對女性主義」

and I actually really found it very interesting looking through that site

我看了一下這個網站發現一些很有趣的事

and seeing what different people had to say who didn't identify with that word

看看大家怎麼定義女性主義這個字，有些人不認同

you know people would find that word feminism to be sort of anti-men or indicate that

有些人覺得女性主義就像仇視男性，或是暗示

it was not right for a woman to do things that are traditionally

女人不該做傳統觀念要女人做的工作

considered the woman's place like stay home and raise kids

像是照顧家裡和養小孩

and then there were some people that were saying that feminism made sense in the past

還有些人說女性主義在過去還適用

but it doesn't anymore because men and women are equal now.

但現在不需要了，因為現在已經男女平等了

And I'm no expert but I think the facts are pretty contrary to this.

我不是專家，但我覺得事實並非如此

I think if you actually look at the evidence of like salaries

有一些證明，你們看看薪水好了

for women versus salaries for men at least, in the United States

至少在美國，女性的薪水和男性的薪水

there's still a definite disparity and

還是有同工不同酬的現象

that's just one of many examples

而這只是其中一個例子而已

so it's complicated and I grant that it's complicated

所以要說平等可能沒那麼單純，我敢說這是很複雜的

and I think it's a really great thing for us all to be talking about.

而我覺得大家談論這件事真的很棒

and in the interest of furthering this conversation

我希望這個話題可以延續下去

I want to ask you guys, what you think about this?

所以我想問你們大家的看法

What does that word feminism mean to you?

你們怎麼看待女性主義？

Now as you might or might not know.

我不知道你們知不知道

I run this company called Hit Record that I started as a hobby.

我有在經營一間自己的公司叫 Hit Record，在好幾年前

many many years ago with my brother.

跟我哥一起創辦的，一開始是當興趣

and since 2010 we've been doing it as a production company.

從 2010 年之後 Hit Record 以製片公司方式經營

and since last year we've been making it a television show.

然後去年開始，我們也做了電視節目

and the first season of the television show was on last year.

第一季在去年播出

on the new cable channel pivot.

就在新的有線電視頻道 pivot 上

You can watch the first episode of the television show for free!

你們可以在這裡， YouTube上，免費看第一集

right here on YouTube.

我們製作的電視節目

but this is the kind of thing we do on our show is.

但我們的節目是在做什麼呢？

ask interesting questions get the conversation going and then

我們會問大家一些有趣的問題，讓話題延續下去

maybe make art-based on things that people say in those conversations.

然後可能會根據大家說的話做出一些藝術動畫，

so we're working on the second season of the show right now.

那我們現在正在製作第二季的節目

and every episode of the show has a theme.

每一集都會有一個主題

one of the episodes is going to be regarding your mom.

其中一個就是去關於你們的母親

And for me this question of feminism is perfect for that episode

我覺得女性主義的問題就很符合那一集的內容

because the first person who ever told me about that word feminism was my mom

因為第一個教導我女性主義這個詞的人就是我媽

my mom was active in sort of what's called the second wave of

我媽在 60、70 年代那時的

the feminist movement in the 60s and 70s.

第二波女性主義運動很活躍

of course the first wave was the women's suffrage movement.

當然，第一波就是美國女性還不能投票的時候

back before women could vote in this country there was a movement.

有一個女性參政權運動

for women to be allowed to vote.

爭取女性參政投票的權利

so not only was feminism something that my mom

所以女性主義不只是我媽教導我的觀念

sort of taught me about obviously motherhood in general is right at the core of

我覺得很明顯的，「身為人母」這件事就是定義

what feminism is or isn't.

女性主義的核心

A lot of people who don't identify with that word feminism

很多不認同女性主義的人可能覺得

feel like that word is somehow against motherhood.

女性主義跟當媽媽是互相衝突的

Me, personally, I don't take it that way.

但我個人不這麼覺得

For me, as a feminist, I would say it should be

身為一個女性主義者，我是覺得

up to the woman to decide if she wants to be a mom

應該由女性自己決定她想成為怎樣的母親

then she should be a mom if that's

如果女性想要專心照顧孩子

you know, what she wants to do full-time and that's awesome.

就是，當全職媽媽的話，那很棒啊

that's what my mom did.

我媽就是這樣

but if she also, if she wants to go out and work.

但如果她們也想要出去工作

have a career other than being a mom that she should

有自己的事業，而不只是待在家顧孩子

be able to do that as well.

那她們也應該去做她們想做的

and then that's to the benefit of everybody.

這對大家都好

So here's what I want you to do. Talk into your camera.

在這裡我希望你們也可以像我一樣

just like I'm doing right now and tell me.

錄一支影片告訴我

what does the word feminism mean to you.

你們怎麼看待女性主義？

Would you call yourself a feminist?

你會稱自己是女性主義者嗎？

Why? Why not? And I'm perfectly perfectly open to hearing.

還有為什麼？我非常樂意聽到不同的意見

why you wouldn't call yourself a feminist.

為什麼你不願意稱自己是女性主義者

I want to hear all sorts of opinions. Then come to our site.

不同的想法都歡迎告訴我，來我們的 Hit Record 網站上

Hit Record and upload that video footage, contributed to this collaboration

上傳你們錄好的影片，幫助我一起製作這個節目

that I started regarding feminism and we'll use a bunch of different things.

我想做和女性主義有關的話題，會採用各位不同的意見

that people say and maybe who knows something that somebody says

搞不好你聽完別人的意見之後

will spark a script, maybe you know if you're a writer out there.

會得到一些創作靈感，如果你是作家

and you see something that somebody says or

或是你看到別人的影片，聽他們說的

an exchange that people have on the site you can turn that

可以和他們交流，還可以把這些內容寫成劇本

into a script and that can become a short film.

甚至還能拍成一部短片

Maybe somebody has something to say and you watch them on the site.

或是你在網站上聽到別人的想法

and you're an illustrator and you start drawing that first.

你剛好是插畫家，你也可以把這些畫下來

and then that can become a cartoon.

將之變成一部卡通

or maybe it inspires you to write a song.

又或者是可以把它寫成一首歌

These are the sorts of things that springboard into the pieces

我們在 Hit Record TV 上做的影片很多元化

that we make on all variety show Hit Record on TV.

都可以當成是靈感來源

That's it, I'm really looking forward to seeing

那就這樣，我非常期待聽到你們的想法

what you guys have to say and we'll see where it goes from there.

然後我們再來看看下一步要怎麼做

Thanks again

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