They don't need to be managed.

他們不需要被管理

If they know —

他們知道

Once they know what to do,

他們一旦知道該做什麼

they'll go figure out how to do it,

就會找出方法去做

and they don't need to be managed at all.

所以他們根本不需要被管理

What they need is a common vision,

他們需要的是一個共同目標

and that's what leadership is.

這就是領導的精髓

What leadership is is having a vision, being able to articulate that so the people around you can understand it,

領導人需要的洞察力是

and getting a consensus on a common vision.

能夠讓周遭的人清楚理解你的想法

We wanted people that were insanely great at what they did,

並使大家達成共識

but were not necessarily those seasoned professionals,

我們之前找的人是對自己的工作十分擅長

but who had at the tips of their fingers

但不一定是經驗豐富的專業人士

and in their passion the latest understanding of where technology was

而是可以信手捻來的靈感和想法

and what we could do with that technology,

對於科技的最新了解、熱情

and we wanted to bring that to lots of people.

還有如何靈活的運用科技

So the neatest thing that happens

而我們想要帶給人們這些東西

is when you get a core group of, you know, ten great people,

所以很棒的事就發生了

it becomes self-policing as to who they let into that group.

由十個人所組成的核心團隊成立了

So I consider the most important job of someone like myself is recruiting.

不過後來讓誰加入團隊變得很見仁見智

We agonized over hiring.

所以對我來說最重要的是招募人才

We had interviews.

但我們對招募非常苦惱

I'd go back and look at some of the interviews again.

我們面試了一些人

They would start at 9:00 or 10:00 in the morning and go through dinner.

我會再回想面試的情形

A new interviewee would talk to everybody in the building at least once

他們會從早上九點或十點一直到吃完晚餐

and maybe a couple times,

新的面試者會跟公司裡的人講過至少一次話

and then come back for another round of interviews,

或是好幾次

and then we'd all get together and talk about it.

之後還會再回來進行第二輪面試

And then they'd fill out an application.

然後我們全部的人會一起討論

[laughing]

面試者會填一個表格

No, they never filled out an application.

(笑聲)

The critical part of the interview, at least to my mind,

不，他們從不填表格

was when we finally decided we liked them enough

對我來說，最重要的一個面試環節

to show them the Macintosh prototype

是當我們終於決定一些比較喜歡的面試者時

and then we sat them down in front of it.

會給他看麥金塔的原型

If they were just kind of bored, or said “This is a nice computer,”

請他們坐下來看

we didn't want them.

如果他們看起來感覺無聊或是說 「這是很不錯的電腦」

We wanted their eyes to light up

我們就不會想要這些人

and for them to get really excited,

我們想看到的是他們眼睛一亮

and then we knew they were one of us.

非常興奮的樣子

And everybody just wanted to work.

這樣就會是我們想要的人

Not because it was work that had to be done,

大家都只是想要工作

but it was because something we really believed in

而不是因為工作需要被完成

that was just going to really make a difference.

是因為這是我們所相信的

And that's what kept the whole thing going.

而這其中有很大的不同

We all wanted exactly the same thing,

這也是驅使所有事情前進的動力

instead of spending our time arguing about what the computer should be.

我們要的是同一件事

We all knew what the computer should be,

不是花時間在爭辯電腦該是什麼樣子

and we just went and did it.

我們都知道電腦應該是什麼樣子

We went through that stage in Apple where we went out and thought oh,

而我們朝著這個方向去做

we're gonna be a big company, let's hire professional management.

蘋果曾經歷過一個時期是，覺得我們可能會是個大企業

We went out and hired a bunch of professional management —

那我們應該聘用一些專業的管理人才

It didn't work at all.

所以我們就請了很多專業的管理人士

Most of them were bozos.

結果完全沒用

They knew how to manage,

他們大多都是笨蛋

but they didn't know how to do anything!

他們知道怎麼管理

And so, if you're a great person,

卻不知道該怎麼做其他的任何事情！

why do you want to work for somebody you can't learn anything from?

所以，如果你是個人才

And you know what's interesting,

你怎麼會想要替你完全學不到東西的人工作呢？

you know who the best managers are?

有件事很有趣

They're the great individual contributors,

你知道誰才是最棒的經理嗎？

who never ever want to be a manager,

是貢獻良多的人

but decide they have to be a manager

他們從沒想過要成為管理者

because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them.

但卻決定成為管理者

[male narrator] After hiring two professional managers

因為沒有人能比他們做得更好

from outside the company and firing them both,

[男敘述者] 從公司外聘請兩位專業的管理人士

Jobs gambled on Debby Coleman, a member of the Macintosh team.

也開除他們之後

Thirty-two years old,

賈伯斯把賭注下在麥金塔團隊的成員 Debby Coleman 上

an English Literature major with an MBA from Stanford,

她 32 歲

Debbie was a financial manager with no experience in manufacturing.

畢業於史丹佛大學，主修英文文學和企業管理碩士

I mean, there's no way in the world anybody else

Debbie 曾是個財務經理，她在製造業並無相關經驗

would give me this chance to run this kind of operation,

這世界上不會有其他人

and I don't kid myself about that.

會給我機會管理這種規模的工作

It's an incredible, high risk

我是認真的

both for myself, personally and professionally,

這是個很大的風險

and for Apple as a company,

不僅對我來說

to put a person like myself in this job.

也關係到蘋果這間公司

I mean, they're really betting on a lot of things.

對於任用我在這個職位這件事

We're betting that my skills at organizational effectiveness,

他們真的在賭很多事情

you know, override all lack of technology,

我們都在賭我的組織效率的能力

lack of experience, lack of, you know, time in manufacturing.

會不會大於缺乏科技知識

So, it's a big risk,

還有製造業的經驗

and I'm just an example in every single person on the Mac team,

這其中有很高的風險

almost to your entry-level person,

而在蘋果的團隊中每個人都是這樣，我只是其中一個例子

you could say that about.

你遇到的幾乎每一個人

This is a place where people were afforded incredibly unique opportunities

你都可以這麼說

to prove that they could do —

這是一個大家都有創造獨特機會的地方

— they could write the book again.

去證明

[narrator] Inscribed inside the casing of every Macintosh,

他們有能力可以做得到

unseen by the consumer,

[敘述者] 在每一台麥金塔電腦的螢幕內部

are the signatures of the whole team.

在消費者看不見得地方

This is Apple's way of affirming that their latest innovation

有整個團隊的簽名

is a product of the individuals who created it,

這是蘋果證明他們每一個最新的研發產品

not the corporation.

是屬於創造人所擁有的