and also just for being here in solidarity for the vegan movement.

也謝謝你們為了推廣純素，而團結在一起

It's so important that we stick together,

同心協力很重要

that we help each other, so that we can better help the animals.

這樣我們才能互相幫忙，進而給動物更多幫助

And today that's I wanna talk about, I wanna talk about how to help animals.

這就是我今天想探討的——如何幫助動物

Through my own experience I have learned a few things in interacting with people,

我從過去的經驗中，學到如何與人互動

in spreading this vegan message in ways that we can best convey what is happening

如何有效推廣純素主義、解釋來龍去脈

and how people can take action.

以及如何採取行動

Before I get into that,

在此之前

I'd like to just tell you a little bit about my background

我想先簡單介紹我的背景

and how I became to be a passionate vegan animal rights activist.

我是如何成為一位熱血的純素動權者

So for me, it all started about ten years ago when I was diagnosed with cancer.

話說從頭，10年前我被診斷出罹患癌症

They gave me about six weeks to live if I didn't start treatment straight away.

醫生說如果我不立即治療，大約只剩六週可活

And this was the first time that I've ever experienced what it was like to suffer.

這是我頭一次感受到什麼叫痛苦

I've never known suffering before, I was living the cushy life,

我以前從沒吃過苦，我過得養尊處優

just like most of us do,

跟大多數的人一樣

always enough food in our stomach, always a nice place to sleep,

總是吃得飽、睡得好

always shelter, always water, cushy.

永遠有安身之處、永遠不缺水、生活安逸

And it was this experience of suffering and not only that,

不過，正是我受的苦啟發了我

but coming out of my suffering, that started inspiring me to help others.

也正是我的解脫，啟發我去幫助他人

I put on 25 kilos while I had cancer and got all kinds of different sicknesses and that during that,

我發病時胖了25公斤，身體有大大小小的不適

so I was very blessed when a man, who's a personal trainer,

我很幸運遇到一位私人健身教練

helped me lose that 25 kilos and help me get my health back.

幫我減掉那25公斤，讓我重拾健康

He helped me out of my suffering.

走出痛苦的陰霾

This is one of the greatest gift we can give someone and this is what he'd done for me.

這是我們能送人最珍貴的一個禮物，而他送給了我

I was so inspired by this that I wanted to help others as well,

我深受啟發，也想幫助別人

so I became a personal trainer too – very passionate about helping others out of their suffering,

所以我也成為私人健身教練，非常致力於幫助別人擺脫痛苦

very passionate about helping people achieve more energy,

幫助他們過得更健康有活力

better health and all the things that come with it.

帶給他們諸如此類的好處

And I was on this journey eight years as a personal trainer,

在這條成長的道路上，有八年我都是健身教練

that I started working on a cruise ship

之後我轉行在遊輪裡工作

and I met a man who was very wise, a very wise Indian fella, old man.

認識了一位非常睿智的印度老先生

Basically he told me that eating animals is bad karma.

他跟我說「食葷帶業障」

And that's the first time I ever cared about it,

這是我頭一次關心這件事

when it was about me. I thought:

因為牽涉到自己

“What? This could be bad for me? Yeah, I know it's bad for animals,

我想「真的嗎？我會不幸嗎？我知道對動物來說是不幸，

but this could be bad for me? Ah, OK, I'm gonna start thinking about this".

但對我會嗎？好吧，我會開始思考這件事。」

I always believed there was no such thing as a healthy vegetarian.

我那時還不相信有所謂的健康素食者

One of my personal training mentors told me that, he says:

我的健身教練曾跟我說

"No such thing as a healthy vegetarian", I said:

「吃素不健康。」我還回他

“Good, I don't want to be one, I don't want to have to look into it, fantastic”.

「太好了，反正我也不想吃素，正好不用費心去研究，太棒了！」

When this man told me that eating animals is bad karma, I said:

所以當這位老先生說吃肉會帶來業障時

“Yeah, there's no such thing as a healthy vegetarian, though”

我說「但吃素又不健康。」

and he said: “Well, I've been vegetarian for twenty years”

他回答「是嗎？我已經吃素20年了。」

and I said: “Shit. Alright, well in that case, um, maybe it is possible,

我說「不會吧！好啦，總是會有例外，

maybe you're a freak, but I'll look into it, I'll look into, I'll see what it's about”.

可能你是怪胎，但我會研究看看是怎麼一回事。」

I looked into it and I started learning,

研究後我才知道

how much healthier it is to cut animal products from your diet, reducing the chances of heart disease,

從飲食中拿掉動物食品是多麼健康，能降低罹患許多疾病的機率

cancers, obesity, osteoporosis, diabetes... so many diseases.

心臟病、癌症、肥胖、骨質疏鬆症、糖尿病……等等

We have right now an epidemic of illness and disease.

我們處於文明病的時代

We could have an epidemic of wellness and health. So much potential here.

但我們極有潛力讓大家都能健康幸福

And I decided: “OK, I'm gonna try this for a week,

於是我決定「好吧，我決定吃素一週。」

I'll go vegetarian for one week, purely a selfish experiment to see how I feel,

單純出於私心想測試我的感受

to see how much better I'm gonna feel".

測試能否改善健康

Three days in,

三天後

instead of feeling like I couldn't get out of bed in the morning, because I hadn't had any protein,

我不但沒有因為缺乏蛋白質而臥病在床

I felt the opposite.

恰恰相反

I felt so much energy, I felt so strong, I felt like I needed to sleep less,

我精力充沛，充滿力氣，不再須要睡那麼久

I felt happier, I felt good! Three days in.

心情更好，感覺棒透了！才三天而已

Before that, I was one of the biggest meat-eaters you know.

我過去是無肉不歡的肉食者

I even ate steak for breakfast.

連早餐都吃牛排

I was working on a cruise ship, it's buffets.

因為我工作的遊輪都提供自助餐

I was taking advantage of that, I was piling my plate up with flesh of dead animals.

我想多撈點好處，自然都把我的餐盤裝滿動物的肉

And no wonder I felt better after three days!

難怪才三天就改善了

But it was a shock at the time, because I never believed you could be healthy.

但那時我很訝異，因為之前我不相信吃素會健康

So feeling good inspired me to look into it more -

這讓我更仔細去研究素食

what's this, why do I feel so great, there must be something to this.

研究為什麼我感覺這麼棒，一定有什麼原因

I looked into it. I learned the health benefits,

我查了又查，得知素食對健康的益處

but I also see that so many people have another reason for becoming vegetarian.

同時發現很多人是因為

And that reason is: “because I don't want to contribute to harm to animals”.

「不想傷害動物」而不吃肉

Obviously, as we know in the vegan crowd, that that's not quite the answer,

雖然純素者都很清楚，那並不是最好的方法

but a lot of people don't understand that yet.

但他們不瞭解純素主義

They think vegetarian is the good answer here, that's what we do,

自然會認為只要遵循不吃肉的生活模式

that's how we live in alignment and we stop hurting animals.

就不會再傷害到動物、就行了

I've never cared about animals before, I really didn't.

而我從來不關心動物，一點都不關心

I feel bad saying that now, but the reason why,

現在說起來很愧疚

and I realize now, is because I never understood who they were.

但我後來發現是因為我從來不瞭解牠們

I didn't understand that they were capable of caring about their own life.

我不知道牠們也會珍惜自己的生命

I didn't think they could, so I thought: “Why would I care about their life,

所以我認為「如果牠們都不珍惜自己的生命，

if they can't even care about their own life". It made no sense.

我又何必去在意呢？這不合理阿。」

I've seen footage of animals being slaughtered

我也看過屠宰動物的影片

and my reaction was: “I'm not going to feel guilty about that,

我的反應是「我不會有罪惡感，

that's what we need to do to be healthy”.

因為要吃動物我才能健康。」

Seeing everyone else's reasons for being vegetarian,

但瞭解了其他人吃素的原因後

I thought: "OK, I'm gonna check this out again, what's happening in the slaughterhouse,

我想「好吧！我再研究一次屠宰場的運作，

what's happening before these animals become this neatly wrapped

再研究一次動物是如何變成超市中，

package on the supermarket shelf, what happens.

包裝精美的產品。」

I see it again for the second time.

於是我研究了第二次

This time I had a new perspective,

這次我帶著不同的觀點

because I knew now that we can live and thrive without consuming animal products.

因為我已經知道，我們不需要動物食品也能生存，還能更健康

So seeing this torture, this mutilation, this murder of these innocent beings,

因此看到我們折磨、殘害、宰殺這些無辜的生靈

it led me to the question...

讓我開始疑惑

If we aren't eating animals for health - we don't need to kill and eat them to survive and be healthy -

如果我們不是為了健康而吃動物，不是為了生存與營養，而把牠們宰來吃

What are we doing this to them for?

我們為什麼要這樣對待牠們？

And I assumed there'd be a great answer,

我以為一定有正當的理由

I thought there must be a good answer, because everyone hates animal cruelty,

一定有，因為大家都討厭虐待動物

everyone loves animals, so surely there's a fantastic answer why we do this.

大家都喜歡動物，所以一定有合理的原因

And I looked and I looked and I looked and I learned the best answers we've got,

我查了又查，發現我們的答案

the best justifications we've got, are taste, habit, tradition and convenience.

我們的理由，最多只能說是口腹之慾、習慣及方便性

None of these reasons are good enough justification to cause this unnecessary harm to animals.

這些都不是在非必要情況下傷害動物的正當理由

And I didn't care about animals, but I know injustice when I see it.

我雖然不關心動物，但我知道這是不正義

I know unnecessary violence when I see it. I know oppression when I see it.

我知道這是不必要的暴力和壓迫

And they are not the types of qualities I want to be.

這些不公不義不是我追求的

They are not the type of things living in alignment with the kind, peaceful,

我不願意與這樣的理念為伍

respectful person that I strive to be and I always have.

我一直致力成為一個善良的人，愛好和平、尊重他人

And I learned that.

於是從此之後

And I became a vegetarian for a whole new reason,

我開始不吃肉，為了一個全新的理由

it was for animals.

為了動物

Soon later, I learned it's not just about flesh,

不久後，我又瞭解到問題不只是肉

it's about all the ways animals are being used in our society.

而是我們的社會，在各方面對動物的利用

All use is exploitation, all exploitation is a form of abuse

所有的利用都是剝削，所有剝削都是一種凌虐

and all abuse is immoral.

所有凌虐都不道德

I learned it's about dairy,

我得知這存在於乳品、雞蛋、毛料、絲綢、皮革

products containing animal products, products that have been tested on animals,

存在於有動物成分、有動物實驗的商品，

places that exploit animals for entertainment and for testing.

存在於把動物作為娛樂及實驗用途的場所

It's about all the ways we use animals.

存在於各種用途

This is when I learned about veganism. I heard a little bit about it before, my friend had gone vegan,

就是在那時我瞭解了純素主義，我以前只有聽過

who I didn't know very well, and someone came up to me one day and said:

當時我有一個不熟的朋友轉純素，有人跟我說

“Grant has gone vegan” and I was like: “what the hell is that?”

「Grant現在吃純素了。」我的反應是「那是什麼鬼？」

and he said: “I don't really know, but he doesn't sit on leather couches”.

他說「我也不知道，但他不坐皮革沙發了。」

I was like: “What? That is weird man, he used to be normal in high school”.

我說「不會吧？太奇怪了，他高中時不是很正常嗎？」

Vegan - always thought it was this extreme thing, unnecessary,

純素者總是被認為太偏激、沒必要

why do we have to be vegan, why?

為什麼要吃純素？為什麼？

Because all the ways we use animals causes them harm.

因為只要利用到動物，就會傷害到牠們

Because no living being deserves to be the slave or the property of someone else.

因為任何有情眾生都不該被奴役、被視為財產

I got to a point where that was the only thing that made sense.

這時我才明白，純素主義才是正確的觀念

Since when was it extreme to not want to harm animals, when did that become extreme?

是從什麼時候開始，不想傷害動物變成了偏激？

What's extreme is saying we love animals and we're against animal cruelty,

偏激的是口口聲聲說愛護動物、反對虐待動物

while we pay people to mutilate and torture and slaughter animals

卻付錢請人支解、虐待、宰殺牠們

for foods and products we don't need, that's extreme.

把牠們做成不必要的食物和用品，這才叫偏激

I decided to take a 365 day vow of silence for animals.

於是我立下誓約，為動物緘默365天

I thought it'd be a great way to raise awareness for them,

我想這個好辦法能使人意識到動物權議題

because you don't need to care about animals to

因為即使你不關心動物

be intrigued by some crazy Aussie guy not talking for an entire year and traveling around the country.

一個澳洲老兄在國內旅遊一年，都不開口說話，一定能吸引你的目光

I thought that will be intriguing to a wide range of people,

我想這能吸引到很多族群

this could be a good campaign to raise awareness for them.

這個很棒的活動能使人開始關注動物

I had the idea after hours and hours of meditation and that was kind of the problem,

這是我靜坐許多小時後所冒出的點子

because after that many hours of meditation, all ideas seem awesome.

也可能是因為消耗太多時間，所以不管最後想出什麼，好像都很棒

I'm like: “vow of silence for a year, that's a good one!”.

我當時想「宣誓緘默一年，感覺不賴。」

I would never have thought of doing that and following through with it unless I came from that place.

之前從沒想過我會有這個計畫，還能堅持到底

So that was my goal, that's what I did last year,

於是我設定了目標，在去年達成了

I travelled around the country to raise awareness for animals and promote peace over violence.

我在國內四處旅遊，提倡動物權，提倡以和平取代暴力

To promote the abolition of animal exploitation. Because nothing less, I believe,

提倡廢除動物剝削，因為我相信

is good enough, we need to abolish this, this needs to end for them, completely.

我們必須徹底廢除對動物的壓榨

I don't want to talk too much about that journey today, because probably half

今天我不想談論太多我的旅程

the people here have already heard me talk about it and this is a vegan crowd.

大概有一半的人都聽過了，因為這裡的聽眾大都是純素者

I'm assuming most people here are vegan. If not - cool!

我猜大部分是，不是也很好

But you probably are.

但我想大部分是

So what I want to talk to you about today is how do we help animals.

所以今天我想談「如何幫助動物」

Now first and foremost, for anyone here who isn't vegan,

首先，如果這裡有人不是純素者

and I know there are some people here who aren't vegan, because I spoke to you today -

我知道有些人不是，因為我剛有跟大家聊過

everyone else just leave the room, all the vegans get out, I'm focusing.

現在純素者都先出去，我要好好教育這些肉食者

For those people who aren't vegan,

還沒轉純素的人

the first thing I just want to talk about, is to single you all out.

我第一件想告訴你們的是，你們被我盯上了，不是啦

No, just to tell you why veganism is important.

是要告訴你為什麼純素主義很重要

Veganism is important because of our core values,

因為這是我們的核心價值

because of them also, but let's just talk about us for a second.

當然對動物也很重要，但暫且先從我們談起

We have core values already of veganism before we were vegan.

在我們轉純素前，這個核心價值早已深植在我們心中

Almost everyone here was not born vegan,

在座幾乎每個人都不是天生吃純素

almost everyone here believed at one point that veganism was extreme

都曾認為那太偏激

and that they would never become a vegan.

自己不可能轉純素

Veganism is what is already in our heart.

但我們內心卻支持著純素主義

If you agree that causing unnecessary harm to animals is wrong, then by that belief,

如果你認同不該對動物造成不必要的傷害

by your own belief, you are obligated to become vegan.

基於你的理念，你就有責任成為純素者

Because anything less than being vegan

因為做不到這點

is going in conflict with your core values of nonviolence to animals.

就牴觸了你反對虐待動物的核心價值

Anything less.

只要做不到這點就抵觸了

Veganism is the first thing we should do to help animals.

純素主義是幫助動物的第一步

But it's not necessarily helping animals.

但未必真的有幫助

Veganism stops hurting animals, it stops our contribution,

純素主義只是停止對動物造成更多傷害

we become vegan and we stop paying people to mutilate and kill animals for us.

轉純素只是不再付錢請人為我們肢解動物、宰殺動物

Obviously that's so important, that is step one,

毫無疑問，第一步確實很重要

that is perhaps the most important step, perhaps equally important as step two.

可以說是最重要的步驟，跟第二步一樣重要

Step one, if you care about animals, you stop hurting them.

第一步，如果你關心動物，就不要傷害牠們

You don't buy free-range, you don't go vegetarian,

不買放養雞蛋，不吃奶蛋

you don't buy humanely slaughtered animals.

不支持人道屠宰

Step one, if you don't want to hurt animals, is become vegan.

第一步，如果你不想傷害動物，就要轉純素

I'm not expecting you to do it overnight, you might - and a lot of people do -

我不要求你們立刻改變，你可能跟很多人一樣

you might feel like you can't,

覺得自己辦不到

I understand where you're coming from there, but that is your goal

我能理解，但那是你的最終目標

and don't stop anywhere on that path of you getting there until you're there.

直到達成以前，都不要半途而廢

It's incredibly easy, it's incredibly healthy. We are all, most people here are vegan,

真的超簡單，超健康，這裡的人幾乎都吃純素

we're just normal people, we're not highly intellectual, necessarily, when...

我們跟普通人沒兩樣，智商也沒比較高

- who, someone laughing? “I am highly intellectual, thank you very much”.

誰？哪個人在笑？他說「我智商比較高，謝謝。」

We are not necessarily particular religion,

我們沒有特定的宗教信仰

we are not necessarily tofu lovers, although I do love tofu now, before I hated it,

我們未必都喜歡吃豆腐，我以前的確不喜歡，但現在很愛

but it's actually quite good if you haven't tried it.

超好吃，你們一定要試試看

We are not necessarily caring about our health or the environment,

我們不見得在意健康、在意環保

we don't even necessarily have to love animals -

我們甚至並非都喜歡動物

I didn't.

我以前就不喜歡

All you have to agree with is that it is wrong to cause unnecessary harm to animals.

但你只要認同一件事——對動物造成不必要的傷害是不對的

And if you agree with that, you believe in veganism.

一旦認同這個概念，你就認同了純素主義

That's it.

這樣就夠了

That's step one my friends, become vegan.

這是第一步，各位，轉純素

Step 2: Because it does not end there,

第二步，因為事情還沒結束

it's not just about “ Cool I'm vegan now, let's go have some launch,

並不只是「酷斃惹，我轉純素了，

there's this new vegan place opened up”.

去吃午餐吧，有一家新開的純素餐廳。」

I mean yeah, that's great, support the vegan businesses and everything,