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Oh like the CPU we're reviewing

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The core i7 8700 K and core i5 8400 CPUs

that we're reviewing today are members of Intel's 8th generation Core Series

codename

Coffee Lake

They're built on the improved 14 nm ++ process

and they fit in the same socket as 6th and 7th gen processors, but

for those of you

rejoicing in the streets that Intel is supporting the same socket for three generations

of desktop chips for the first time in a decade.

Think again.

Neither 8th gen chips nor the 300 series motherboards that go with them are backwards compatible.

Trust us. We tried.

Intel has an excuse though at least for the new CPUs to not work in the old boards

Because the new Z370 chipset even though rumors indicate that it's fundamentally a retooled Z270

supports higher speed ddr4

2666 out of the box and

Offers improved power delivery both things that required some tweaks even to hardware

And so I don't know like maybe this is

worth making a video about like coaching people on how to watch for this stuff because

Anyone who was expecting a 200 series board to get a CPU upgrade hasn't been following Intel's pattern over the last 10 years

now AMD's announced long-term support of am4

Might bring about a change in this behavior from Intel, but that remains to be seen

AMD's history is to, sure support a socket for a long time

but with CPUs that nobody really wants to upgrade to with all of that said,

I totally get why the people who invested in fancy Z270 boards are mad right now

Architecturally coffee lake is more or less just kaby lake which itself was more or less just sky lake

No avx-512 no rebalanced smartcache I mean

Damn We're not even getting a new HD graphics chip not that I cared about that although hooray for hdcp 2.2. I guess

so

That doesn't sound very compelling

But what is is that we are finally getting a 6 core Intel chip on the mainstream

platform and at mainstream prices

But there's more it's not just a 6 core chip

Which is kind of what I would have expected them to do the entire Core i7 and Core i5

Lineup are getting the hex treatment complete with additional cache

and this is all at roughly the same TDP as the previous generation

So, if you're upset about that

Then I'm glad because this is a good thing

We all used to get upset about

Every new hardware generation, but it's ok salt can taste good. You know it's like oh

oh

Hmm like this is what it feels like when oh that's awful. Ah oh

oh, I gotta get it off my tongue

Why is this even in here

Ok I'm sorry, so this this is what it feels like when technology is actually

advancing ah

Now there are new core i3's too but those are kind of boring, and we didn't get samples

so let's get to performance of the chips that we have we are going to be doing a lot of testing this time around because

this is

Potentially a huge single generation leap in performance

so

We cracked open our previous generation Intel rig our current gen Ryzen and threw in

Core i9 and ThreadRipper for good measure so get your yeehaw ready, cuz it's

gun be one heck of a shootout and

the core i7 8700 K

Comes out guns blazing in our 1080p gaming tests it predictably trades blows at the top of the keep with its predecessor

depending on per game multi-threaded optimization

I curiously it seems to fare slightly worse overall, but it's nothing to cry about

More interesting is the core i5

8400 riding into town with

7700 K like performance at an i5 price as

For our 4k gaming tests. Well. These are some super boring if beautiful and high resolution

graphs

There's a reason that Anthony coined the term the great equalizer for 4k in the core i9 Extreme Edition video

Everything performs the same when the GPU is the bottleneck

synthetic gaming benchmarks tell a similar story

moving on to productivity oh boy

The core i7 8700 K. Kills it here easily surpassing Ryzen in

Multi-threaded tests and even approaching the core i9 lineup

Thanks to its higher core clocks

And it even decisively snatches the single-threaded crown from its predecessor

Thanks to its higher turbo and extra cash as for the core i5

8400 its lack of hyper threading does hurt it here compared to its competitor the Ryzen 5 1600 and

Since Ryzen chips are unlocked that gap could widen with overclocking

Thermals are

Not that great for the 8700 K although this seems to be at least

partially a firmware bug since when overclocked we actually got lower readings and

power consumption is higher than the last gen but

Nothing like the HEDT and workstation chips that we've been reviewing recently

Let's talk overclocking

It's pretty simple and there's plenty of fine control including per core overclocks at 5 gigahertz

Yes, my friends 5 gigahertz 6 cores. We managed a pretty decent improvement in performance on our

8700 K giving it similar Headroom to our 7700 K across the board though as always your mileage may vary

Bringing us to value and it's here that coffee lake shines

When system cost has accounted for compared to kaby lake the core i7 8700 k is on par for gaming

That's good, but at over a $100 less than that the core i5

8400 is the one that's going to be really disruptive be it for gamers or entry-level content creators in

productivity the to actually switch places

The 8700 k takes the crown here while the 8400 sits in the back seat next to Ryzen

Over although both of the new intel chips sit pretty at the top of the pile

so

was coffee lake a last-minute response to Ryzen, in some respects pricing not to mention the decision to move the

i5 line up to six core

It might be we don't know how good intel's you know corporate

espionage is you know maybe they knew Ryzen was gonna be good a

Year, and a half two years ago when they would have had to start working on this or maybe they didn't

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