I know what we're doing now is like looking into it.

我知道我們現在像是在回顧，分析這首歌

But none of us thought that much into it.

但是我們當初都沒有想這麼多

I didn't make this song to be mine to sing.

我寫這首歌時不是要寫給自己唱的

He'd already said everything he wanted to say for that moment on his record.

他當時已經把他想說的都寫進專輯裡了

We went in there just to write a song.

我們只是想要寫歌而已

If we were into the session writing a song for Ed Sheeran,

如果我們當時是要寫歌給艾德的話

I don't think we would ever have recorded shape of you.

我不覺得我們有可能會錄下 Shape of You 這首歌

Most-streamed track ever on Spotify

Spotify 史上最多播放次數

Most weeks ever in The Billboard Top 10

維持告示牌前十名最久紀錄

2,893,178,486 views on YouTube

YouTube 上 2,893,178,486 觀看人次

It was the first day I've ever been in with Steve.

這是我第一天跟 Steve 一起合作

The first, literally the first thing he did,

他做的第一件事就是

was he walked over to the keyboard and played.

他走向電子琴，然後彈

And then I was kinda like "Well, we have this."

我當時想「好啊，我們有這個了。」

That's a good start.

是個好的開始

The log drum that we use, it was the first sound that I found.

我們用的木鼓是我第一個找到的音效

It just felt like a world sound.

聽起來很有大自然的感覺

Ed started doing that thing on the guitar that he does.

艾德開始用吉他玩他那一招

And then like a...

再加上這個

I honestly believe it's cause Ed is so impatient

我真的認為，這是因為艾德很沒耐性

that he can't wait for me to get a drum sound up.

他等不及我設定好鼓的音效

So he goes out, and he says, "Look, I'll just do it on the guitar."

所以他出去了一下，說「直接用吉他就好了。」

So he was doing that in the studio and Steve said,

他在錄音室刷吉他，然後 Steve 說

"Can we get that on the loop?"

「可以把這段循環播放嗎？」

Straight away, he says, "Give me a clean track."

他馬上說「給我錄一個新音軌。」

And he just starts layering over the top.

然後他就開始疊音樂上去

This is fifteen minutes into meeting, and we're away, we're off.

會議才開始十五分鐘，我們就頗有進展

The easiest thing with this key would be to go with it.

配合這個音調最簡單的方法就是跟著它走

Like, of the rhythm.

節奏上跟著走

Ed goes completely against that.

艾德完全不走這套

He's almost the percussion with it.

他的聲音幾乎就是打擊樂了

And that keeps the pace up.

這讓音樂能保持節奏

I'm always a fan of keeping it more stripped,

我一直都喜歡保持簡單

'cause I'm an acoustic artist first and foremost.

因為我主要是個不插電歌手

And when I play live, I can't replicate all these things.

當我現場演奏時，我無法重現這些效果

I haven't got any other musicians.

而且我也沒有其他的樂手

So you don't need anything else, because that's the percussion.

所以你其他東西都不需要，因為那就是打擊樂

Ed is the instrument.

艾德就是樂器

Johnny's like my main guy that I work with.

Johnny 是我主要合作的對象

Me and him together on our own have probably written two, three hundred songs.

我跟他一起寫了大概兩、三百首歌

His attention span could be very low.

他的專注時間有時候相當短

One of the things I did to try and keep him in the room while I would be working on a track,

當我在處理那些音樂時，為了要讓他專注

I would have like a suitcase full of lego and pull it to the hotel room.

我會把行李箱裝滿樂高，然後帶進飯店房間

And say, "There you go, you build that."

說「來，去蓋房子囉！」

And it was great, 'cause he would sit and build the lego,

這很棒，因為他會坐著拼樂高

and can get lost in that world for a second,

短暫地陷入樂高的世界

and come up with this moment that was everything.

然後突然靈光一閃，想出絕妙的點子

As we were writing it, I kind of knew I wanted it to be like a really sort of R&B type feel.

我們在寫歌的時候，我就知道我想要這首歌有 R&B 的感覺

And I was like, "Wouldn't it be cool if like, we put like an interpolation of "No Scrubs" in it?"

我想，如果能加入一小段 No Scrubs 的旋律應該超酷的吧？

So the bit that went "Girl, you know I want your love,"

所以 "Girl, you know I want your love." 那一段

originally went "Girl, you know I want your love."

原本是 "Girl, you know I want your love."

There were some moments that I found on the Shape of You tapes which were really interesting.

我在 Shape of You 的音檔中有找到一些有趣的片段

Ahh be my baby um ah.

啊，當我的寶貝

Ahh be my baby um ah.

啊，當我的寶貝

Ahh be my baby.

啊，當我的寶貝

Come on, yeah!

來吧，就是這個！

Come on be my baby um ah.

來吧，當我的寶貝

Come on be my baby um ah.

來吧，當我的寶貝

So that's a perfect example of how Ed starts off as a...

這個例子完美呈現艾德從開始唱 ...

Just to shoot ... a noise.

只是發出 ... 只是些聲音

And then you hear that moment where he discovers it should be "come on,"

然後你可以聽到他突然發現應該要說「來吧」的時刻

He's inviting this person in.

他在邀請這個人

He has in his mind this is how I want a song to sound.

他心裡已經有這首歌的樣子

This is what I want to talk about.

這是我想要唱的東西

Originally, I think we were talking about maybe being

一開始，我們在說歌詞應該是

"and my T-shirt smells like you".

「我的 T 恤有你的味道。」

And, he was like, "no no, it's gotta be my bed sheets."

然後他說「不不不，一定要是床單。」

It's "bedsheets smell of you", and I remember thinking,

是「床單有你的味道」，我記得我當時想

"Oh god no, not bedsheets."

「喔老天，不要說床單。」

On the original version, it doesn't actually say "I'm in love with the shape of you."

原本的版本裡，歌詞其實不是「我愛上了你的身影。」

It only says that at the beginning bit.

這段只有在開頭出現過

See, like a weird thing in there, that's pretty odd.

你聽，有段奇怪的音效，蠻怪的

"I'm in love with your body" on its own, felt objectifying to me.

「我愛上了你的身體。」單這句話聽起來，對我來說有物化的感覺

Yeah, he's got a really warm heart.

對啊，他是個暖男

Do you like, do you not like "I'm in love with your body?"

你喜歡，你不喜歡「我愛上了你的身體。」嗎？

I do, it's just ... it's ...

我喜歡，只是 ...

"I'm in love with your body."

「我愛上了你的身體。」

I mean, I'll say, I'm always like

我是說，我會說，我一直都覺得

if we could just push it, so it's one more thing.

如果我們可以更延伸，讓它有更深的意涵

Where I come from, there is this phrase.

我的故鄉有這麼一個說法

They say look at the shape of you, and that means,

他們會說「看看你的形狀」，這表示

look at the way you've showed it up.

看看你怎麼呈現你自己

So in love with the shape of you.

完全愛上你的身影了

It's true.

是真的

It is more than.

這不只是

I'm in love with

我愛上了

You're not just a body.

你不只是你的身體

It is more than your body.

這不只是你的身體

You are more than your body.

你不只是你的身體

Yeah, um.

嗯，是的

I'm in love with the shape of you.

我愛上了你的身影

I'm in love with the way you move.

我愛上了你舞動的方式

But it's not just the shape of you.

但這不只是你的身影而已

This song is just one loop the whole way through.

這首歌整首就是一直循環

It's a very monotonous thing, so when you got that for the whole song,

這是個很重複單一的歌，所以如果你整首都這樣

the only thing you can do are light and shade bits.

你唯一能做的就是增加或是拿掉音樂元素

So once you've heard the first ten seconds,

一旦你聽了前十秒

there's no more learning to be done when it comes to the hook.

這首歌的記憶點就大概這樣了

Then everything else is a surprise.

剩下的部分都是驚喜

It's so minimal, that every time something new does comes in, you hear it.

這首歌非常極簡，所以每當有新的東西加進來的時候，你都聽得到

Layered up some more vocals, some of these guitars.

把人聲也疊上去，再加點吉他

One of the things that we added was the mellotron.

我們加入的其中一樣樂器是電子琴

And it just added a little color to it for me.

對我來說，這為歌曲增添了一點色彩

Just a little bass drum.

加一點大鼓

Just to give it some weight.

讓它聽起來有份量點

We've got a little sixteen clap going.

有一點十六分節奏的拍手聲

Then we added a little rim.

然後我們加了一點的鼓邊的聲音

That's kind of the only thing that starts slightly of the beat.

這是唯一稍為不在拍點上的東西

So it feels like it's moving all the time, you're not getting bored.

所以聽起來是隨時在流動的，你不會覺得無聊

Every time you start getting bored of it,

每當你開始覺得無聊時

something new comes in

就有新的元素加入

or something drops out.

或是有聲音被拿掉

It kind of builds and builds and builds and then drops,

有點像一直疊加，疊加，疊加，然後降落

and then builds and builds and build and then drops.

然後又一直疊加，疊加，疊加，然後降落

At the end, it has a moment which I quite like.

最後，有一個我蠻喜歡的部分

You don't really notice it happening, but it's happening underneath.

你不太會感受到它正在進行，但在背後的確是有發生

And you just get this feeling of tension, release, tension, release.

你就會感受到張力，放鬆，張力，放鬆

We've moved on to another song.

我們開始寫下一首歌

We've actually got a cut with Faith Hill and Tim McGraw that we write the same day.

其實我們同一天還做了要給費絲·希爾和提姆·麥克羅的片段

And then we did another one after that.

在那之後又寫了一首歌

We write a bunch that day.

我們那天寫了一堆歌

Oh, the Liam Payne one as well.

喔，還有連恩·佩恩那首也是

And that was when at the end of the third song, he said,

然後就在第三首歌結束後，他說

"Go back, and can you play me the first tune again."

「你可以再播一次第一首歌嗎？」

We thought it might be a duet.

我們本來想會是個對唱

and the duet would be that the girl sings one verse and the guy sings another verse.

會是女生唱一段主歌，然後男生唱另一段主歌的對唱

When I was like, "This sounds like, Rudimental should do it with Rihanna.".

我當時想，「這聽起來該是根基樂團跟蕾哈娜唱的。」

He said, "I don't think this is for me."

他說：「我不覺得這是我的歌。」

I was off to this studio where my record label head was.

我前往我唱片公司老闆在的錄音室

I played it, and he was just kind of looking at me like,

我播了這首歌，然後他就盯著我說

"Why you wanna give this away?"

「你怎麼會想要把這首歌送人？」

I don't really know what it means to choose a hit.

我不太知道挑選一首主打歌是什麼意思

I just like writing songs.

我只是喜歡寫歌

It's not rocket science.

這並不是什麼高深的科學

It's much much more complicated.

這比那還要複雜得多了

Kind of the best hour and a half in my life.

可能是我生命中最棒的一個半小時

To follow a trend is a common thing in pop,

流行音樂中，跟隨潮流是個常見的事

and it's something that I've always try to not do.

也是我一直避免的一件事

But I was wrong this time, man.

但這次我錯了，老兄

It's one of the biggest songs in my career.

這是我事業中最成功的一首歌

Cool.

很棒