It was a while back. When was... I was just about to start this, then.

這已經過了一段時間了。自從...我開始做這件事

That's like, two years ago.

好像是兩年前

Yeah, I remember, 'cause 'Crimson Peak' released in October 2015,

對，我記得，因為《 腥紅山莊 》在 2015 年 10 月上映

and I went straight from, um, New York to Hawaii.

然後我直接從紐約到了夏威夷

-Oh, wow. -Yeah.

-喔，哇 -沒錯

To start this, yeah.

對，開始這一切

Ok, Kjersti Flaa, today I'm covering for Hungary.

好的，我是 Kjersti Flaa ，今天我是匈牙利人

I'm a bit all over the place. I'm from Norway, but.

我很了解那個地方，但我是挪威人

I know, yeah.

對，我知道

You know that, too? [Flaa and Hiddleston chuckle]

這你也知道？ (兩人輕笑)

I remember. You told me, I think.

我記得，你好像告訴過我

Yeah. We were talking about your fans, as well.

對，我們那時也在討論你的影迷

Mm.

嗯

Because you have -- like, I don't know anyone who has more dedicated fans than you do.

因為你有著…我不知道還有誰的影迷比你的還要忠心

-Do you think? -I think so, yes.

-你這麼認為嗎？-對，我是這麼想的

People are, like, so obsessed with you.

觀眾好像，非常為你著迷

Why -- [Flaa and Hiddleston chuckle]

為什麼 (兩人輕笑)

Why -- I understand why, but why do you think that you have, like, this thing about you,

你覺得，我知道為什麼，但是你覺得為什麼你有這種特質

that makes the fans go so crazy?

讓粉絲如此的瘋狂？

I don't know. Um...

我不知道…嗯…

Truthfully. I just feel very lucky that I've got people -- there are people out there who have enjoyed the work.

真的，我只覺得非常的幸運，能有這些人喜歡我的作品

Um... That's what matters most, to me. And then also, there are --

嗯…這對我來說是最重要的。還有同時那些人當中

that some of those people have also taken up the causes I believe in, at the same time.

有人願意相信我所相信的事物

Um --

嗯

And that's really touching.

這讓人非常感動

Do you ever get used to that kind of attention?

你有開始習慣這種備受矚目的感覺嗎？

Uhh... I don't think you ever -- I don't think anyone ever gets used it, really.

嗯…我覺得人不會…我覺得沒有人會真的習慣這種感覺

Um -- um --

嗯

No. [Flaa and Hiddleston chuckle]

不會 ( 兩人輕笑 )

No. Um --

不會 嗯

I just -- ultimately, I try to stay true to myself,

我，後來我試著要對自己坦白一點

and I think that's the only thing that keeps you grounded in reality.

我認為這是唯一一件可以讓人面對現實的事

Well, I've seen you're active on social media too, now.

我看到你現在在社群媒體上也很活躍

-Yeah. -So I'm following you on Instagram.

-對阿 -我有追蹤你的 Instagram

Do you like, kind of, to be able to express yourself, through social media?

你喜歡透過社群媒體表達想法嗎？

I'm quite -- I think, it's -- relatively, I'm quite sparing with social media.

我還蠻，我是說，相較之下，我還蠻節制地在使用社交媒體

I only recently joined Instagram, I just --

我最近才剛創了 Instagram，我是覺得

the idea that people are communicating with pictures is something that I think is a good thing.

人們利用照片來交流是一件很不錯的事

Um -- And, it seems to be quite a positive forum, as well.

嗯 它也像一個正向的論壇

Um, so, that's a good thing.

嗯，所以它蠻好的

I love that photo on the plane, where you take the selfie.

我愛你在飛機上拍的自拍照

Yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah. [Flaa indistinct]

對對對對 (Flaa 感到疑惑)

Well, we had a great time making this film.

嗯，我們拍這部影片拍得很開心

We -- you know, it was an amazing group of people, throwing together, going off to these extraordinary places.

我們，你知道的，這群很棒的人，聚在一起，走遍了這些美麗的地方

And, uh -- [inhales]

而且，嗯 (吸氣聲)

You know, it's nice to have a record of it, sometimes.

有時候，留下紀錄是一件很好的事

So, you're very fit in this movie, as you are in a lot of movies.

你在這部電影中表現得恰如其分，如同你在其他電影裡

Are you always, like, in good shape?

你一直都讓自己是準備好的狀態嗎？

Well, I've always been a runner. I love running.

這個嘛，我一直以來都是個跑者。我喜歡跑步

Many, many people hate running. I'm aware of that.

很多很多人討厭跑步，我有意識到這件事

Um, and -- uh --

還有…

But running for me, has been a way of, um --

但是跑步對我來說，已經是一種方式

there's something very monotonous and habitual about it.

那是個非常單調且慣性的方式

And sometimes it's a really good place to think.

且有時候，它是個很適合思考的地方

So I've always --

所以我一直以來…

It was a habit I started to get into on 'War Horse,' with Steven Spielberg.

那是當我與史蒂芬史匹柏合作《 戰馬 》時養成的習慣

Because we'd -- he wanted to shoot very early in the morning,

因為我們… 他想在早上很早的時候拍攝

and the horses would always be wide awake,

通常馬那時候都是清醒的

and I wanted to make sure that I was awake as well, so I'd get up and run.

我想確保我也清醒了，所以我就起來跑步了

Um, so that's a -- it is a creative habit that I have.

呃，這就是… 這是一個為我帶來創造力的習慣

It's a way of thinking about the scene, and -- that I -- every day, and, um --

這是一種思考情景的方式，而且我… 每天都這樣

So, yeah.

所以，對

There's a lot of pain, going through that, too.

也有很多痛苦要去克服它

Yeah.

是的

I feel like it's taking the pain that's, like, building…

我覺得就像是在感受痛苦的過程，就像建立…

That's part of it, yeah.

那是一部分，沒錯

It's interesting that, um --

那是很有趣的…

I think a physical discipline yields something psychological and mental at the same time,

我覺得身體上的訓練同時也能得到心靈上與精神上的強化

that you don't know is happening until a little later.

而你直到後來才知道它正在發生

Um --

呃…

Just the act of, uh....

這個行為…

of that habit,

這個跑步的習慣

kind of reveals -- you kind of find out who you are,

就像顯示出… 你可以了解到真正的你

when you're being made to push and pull and lift and run,

當你被要求在攝影機前行進、後退、奔跑或被吊起來時

and you feel like you have nothing else to give, but you do.

你覺得你似乎沒有辦法再給更多的時候，但事實上你可以

Hi, there, thanks for watching my interview.

嗨，大家好，感謝各位收看我的訪談

I hope you liked it, and if you did, there might be some other interviews you like on my channel.

我希望大家都會喜歡，如果你喜歡，這裡可能還有一些你喜歡的訪談在我的頻道中

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所以請按下訂閱按鈕，期望我們還能再會

Thanks again for watching. Bye.

再次感謝你的收看，拜拜