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  • I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

  • HOPEFULLY, MY GUEST WILL HAVE AN IDEA.

  • PLEASE WELCOME BILL O'REILLY.

  • (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) BILL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

  • BILL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> SURE.

  • >> Stephen: WE BOOKED YOU OVER A MONTH AGO.

  • I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY OVER AT THE REAL NEWS, SO I APPRECIATE

  • YOU STILL BEING HERE TONIGHT.

  • YOU PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER A BIG NEWS

  • STORY HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY AFTER A NATIONAL TRAGEDY LIKE THIS

  • ONE.

  • WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD OUT THERE IN THE FIRST 24 TO 36 HOURS THAT

  • SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD RESPONSE TO YOU?

  • IF IT WAS PRESIDENT O'REILLY, WHAT WOULD YOU BE LISTENING TO

  • AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

  • >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT WASN'T A TRAGEDY LIKE ONE OF OUR

  • CONTRIBUTORS SAID LIKE AN AM TRACK TRAIN DERAILING.

  • THIS IS A BASIC WAR WE'RE IN.

  • I LOOK AT THE NEWS FROM AN HISTORICAL POINT OF VIEW, NOT

  • ONLY A CONTEMPORARY POINT OF VIEW.

  • I THINK AT TIMES LIKE THESE, AMERICANS, AFTER THE APPROPRIATE

  • OUTPOURING OF GRIEF WHICH WE'VE HAD, AND THEN THE APPROPRIATE

  • CARE FOR THE FAMILIES INVOLVED, WHICH THEY'RE RAISING MILLIONS

  • OF DOLLARS NOW.

  • ACTUALLY, THERE WAS A LINE TO GIVE BLOOD EIGHT HOURS LONG IN

  • ORLANDO TODAY, AND ALL OF THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

  • THEN YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY STEP BACK AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, HOW DO

  • WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM.

  • IT'S A WAR.

  • THESE PEOPLE, THE ISLAMIC JIHADISTS HAVE DECLARED WAR IN

  • THE WEST, IN THE UNITED STATES.

  • THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

  • NOW, THEY DON'T REPRESENT MOST TO HAVE THE MUSLIM WORLD, BUT

  • THERE IS ENOUGH OF THEM TO CAUSE THE WORLD PAIN ON A CONSISTENT

  • BASIS.

  • SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOU HAVE FRAMED THE PROBLEM IN THAT WAY.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: BUT IT CAN BE LOOKED AT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

  • YOU CAN ALSO SAY THE PROBLEM IS EASY ACCESS TO HIGH CAPACITY,

  • RAPID-FIRING WEAPONRY.

  • THAT'S ANOTHER WAY.

  • (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO -- AS THE

  • PRESIDENT SAID IN HIS ADDRESS, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE

  • EITHER/OR, THEY CAN BOTH BE PROBLEMS.

  • IF YOU ACCEPT THOSE CAN BOTH BE PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE IN.

  • >> I DON'T THINK THE PROBLEM IS DEFINED NEARLY AT THE JIHADIST

  • LEVEL BY THE AMERICAN GUN EXPERIENCE.

  • I DON'T.

  • >> Stephen: TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE KILLED WITH GUNS.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: AND HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH JIHADIS OR ISLAMIC

  • EXTREMISTS.

  • THERE HAVE BEEN MASS MURDERS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RADICAL

  • IDEOLOGY.

  • THIS IS SOMEONE WITH RADICAL IDEOLOGY AND IS MOTIVATED

  • PERHAPS BY A SCHIZOPHRENIC INTEREST IN BELIEVING HE'S PART

  • OF SOMETHING BIGGER, PERHAPS BY RESPONDING TO A CALL FROM

  • I.S.I.S. TO KILL PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT THEN HE HAD

  • THE ACCESS TO THE WEAPON TO DO THE DEED.

  • SO IT'S GOT TO BOTH BE PART OF THE PROBLEM, DON'T YOU THINK?

  • >> BUT YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK AND LOOK AT SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS

  • RATHER THAN LAMENTING PROBLEMS THAT CANNOT BE SOLVED.

  • >> Stephen: BUT IF YOU DON'T AGREE WHAT THE PROBLEM, IS YOU

  • CAN NEVER AGREE ON A SOLUTION.

  • >> OKAY, BUT -- (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

  • -- IT'S MY JOB AS A NEWS ANALYST TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THE

  • PROBLEM, AND THE SOLUTION IS NOT SOME KIND OF FEDERAL GUN CONTROL

  • AT A LEVEL OF TAKING GUNS AWAY.

  • >AWAY (AUDIENCE REACTS)

  • >> Stephen: LISTEN SO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, PLEASE.

  • >> CHICAGO HAS THE TOUGHEST GUN LAWS IN THE COUNTRY.

  • CHICAGO HAS THE HIGHEST MURDER RATE IN THE COUNTRY.

  • WHY?

  • BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PATROL 24-7 CRIMINALS AND TERRORISTS WHO

  • HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS.

  • >> Stephen: AND THEY COME FROM MOSTLY OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO.

  • >> THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GUNS ON THE STREETS

  • OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW, LEGAL GUNS, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO

  • CHANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS AND

  • OUR HISTORY IS ONE OF THAT WE USE WEAPONS NOT ONLY TO GET OUR

  • FREEDOM FROM GREAT BRITAIN BUT TO FORGE THE WEST WHERE THERE

  • WASN'T ANY CONTROL OF THE LAW.

  • NOW, AUSTRALIA IS THE BEST EXAMPLE.

  • AUSTRALIA HAD, 20 YEARS AGO -- I THINK IT WAS THIS WEEK -- AN

  • HORRIFIC, ALMOST LIKE ORLANDO, I THINK IT WAS 35 PEOPLE IN

  • TASMANIA KILLED WITH AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON AND THEY BANNED

  • ALL AUTOMATIC WEAPONS AND MOST HANDGUNS.

  • (APPLAUSE) >> Stephen: THEY REDUCED THE

  • NUMBER OF WEAPONS IN THE COUNTRY BY ABOUT HALF.

  • >> MORE THAN THAT.

  • IF YOU CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON OR PISTOL IN AUSTRALIA, 14 YEARS

  • IN PRISON.

  • (APPLAUSE) O WE CAN LEARN FROM INDUSTRIAL.

  • I CAN'T THE GUN MURDER RATE IN 20 YEARS HAS FALLEN 72% IN

  • AUSTRALIA.

  • IN THE UNITED STATES, ROUGHLY OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME,

  • THE MURDER RATE WITH GUNS HAS FALLEN 30% AND THE SHOOTINGS

  • HAVE FALLEN 60%.

  • NOBODY KNOWS THAT.

  • OKAY, OUR GUN PROBLEM IS GOING DOWN HERE, NOT UP.

  • WHY?

  • NOW, THIS IS THE KEY TO SOLVING THE GUN PROBLEM -- WHY IS THAT

  • THERE HAVE BEEN MANDATORY FEDERAL SENTENCES HANDED OUT TO

  • VIOLENT OFFENDERS INCLUDING DRUG GANGSTERS.

  • THOSE MANDATORY SENTENCES ARE NOW UNDER FIRE FROM THE LEFT.

  • THEY DON'T LIKE THEM.

  • OKAY.

  • BUT THEY TOOK OFF THE STREETS MOST OF THE REAL BIG-TIME BAD

  • CRIMINALS AND PUT THEM AWAY.

  • SO MY SOLUTION TO THE GUN PROBLEM IS THIS -- NUMBER ONE,

  • CONGRESS DEBATES WHICH GUNS ARE ALLOWED.

  • YOU CAN'T HAVE A BAZOOKA.

  • YOU CAN'T HAVE HAND GRENADES.

  • YOU CAN'T.

  • SO IT'S PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE FOR CONGRESS TO SAY WHAT KIND OF

  • RIFLES SHOULD PEOPLE BE ABLE TO BUY.

  • >> Stephen: SO PRESIDENT O'REILLY WOULD BE OPEN TO THE

  • IDEA THAT AK-47s OR AR15s SHOULD BE LIMITED.

  • >> YOU CAN BRIT OUT AND SAY THESE WEAPONS SHOULD NOT BE SOLD

  • IN THE UNITED STATES, NO MATTER WHAT THE STATES SAY BECAUSE

  • FEDERAL LAW TAKES PRECEDENT, AND DEBATE IT.

  • IN 1976 THEY STOPPED MANY OF THE HIGH-TECH RIFLES.

  • THEY BANNED THEM AND THAT LAPSED.

  • WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S GET TO RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

  • >> I WANT TO ADDRESS GUNS BECAUSE YOUR SCREW APPLAUDING

  • STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T BE APPLAUDING.

  • WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS EVERY SINGLE CRIME COMMITTED IN THIS

  • COUNTRY WITH A GUN WHETHER ORLANDO TERRORISM OR CHICAGO IN

  • THE INNER CITY DRUG GANGS, EVERY CRIME IS THEN A FEDERAL CRIME.

  • NO MORE LOCAL OR STATE, IT'S A FEDERAL CRIME.

  • >> Stephen: DON'T YOU THINK THERE WILL BE OUTCRY FROM PEOPLE

  • WHO BELIEVE IN STATES RIGHTS.

  • >> OUTCRY DOESN'T CONCERN ME.

  • >> Stephen: OUTCRY OVER THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOES CONCERN

  • YOU.

  • >> I DON'T CARE.

  • >> Stephen: YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT?

  • >> I DO, BUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT DOESN'T GIVE ANYBODY

  • THE RIGHT TO COMMIT A CRIME WITH A GUN.

  • >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • O EVERY GUN CRIME, INCLUDING SELLING ILLEGAL GUNS, IS A

  • FEDERAL CRIME WITH MANDATORIES.

  • SO IF YOU ROB A SEVEN-ELEVEN WITH A GUN, NOT ONLY ARE YOU

  • CONVICTED OF THE ROBBERY OF THE SEVEN-ELEVEN WHICH IS A LOCAL

  • BEEF, BUT YOU GET TEN YEARS IN THE FEDERAL PENITENTIARY ON TOP

  • OF THAT.

  • THAT TAKES AWAY -- >> Stephen: MANDATORY

  • SENTENCING.

  • YOU BELIEVE THAT SOME LIMITING OF ACCESS TO HIGH-CAPACITY AND

  • SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONRY IS A REASONABLE THING FOR CONGRESS

  • TO -- >> RIGHT, CONGRESS PASSES THAT

  • LAW AND FEDERALIZES THE GUN CRIME.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S GET BACK TO THE SPES PHIS THETY OF THE

  • OLDER -- SPECIFICITY OF THE ORLANDO ATTACK.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PROPER RESPONSE IS TO STOP SOMETHING

  • LIKE THIS WHICH DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE CATEGORY OF THE KIND

  • OF CRIMES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

  • >> IT'S IMPORTANT.

  • YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR TIMOTHY McVEIGHS, YOUR BOSTON

  • MASSACRE BOLESSINGS AND SAN BERNARDINO KILLERS.

  • IT'S THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY FROM JACK THE RIPPER TO --

  • >> Stephen: THIS PERSON WHO HAD BEEN INTERVIEWED TWICE BY

  • THE F.B.I. AND THE F.B.I. HAS SOMETHING TO ANSWER FOR FOR

  • THAT.

  • IF THIS PERSON INTERVIEWED TWICE BY THE F.B.I. COULD STILL GET

  • ACCESS TO AUTOMATIC WOMEN'S.

  • >> BECAUSE HE HADN'T BROKEN A LAW.

  • >> Stephen: HE WASN'T ON A NO-FLY LIST.

  • >> BECAUSE THE PRIVATE AIRLINES, THEY ARE TWUNS KEEPING HIM OFF

  • THE FLIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: THERE IS A FEDERAL NO FLY LIST.

  • PEOPLE CAN TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE PLANE UNDER THEIR OWN VOLITION

  • THEY CAN'T BUT THE FEDS CREATE THE NO FLY LIST.

  • >> IF I'M THE PRESIDENT OF JETBLUE AND I SAY TO THE FEDERAL

  • GOVERNMENT I'M GOING TO LET ANYONE ON THIS PLANE, THEY CAN'T

  • DO ANYTHING TO ME.

  • >> Stephen: HAS ANY AIRLINE DONE THAT?

  • >> NO.

  • >> Stephen: WHY WOULD YOU ARGUE IT?

  • >> YOU CAN'T IMPOSE ON THE F.B.I. -- AND I DON'T THINK YOU

  • CAN BLAME THEM EITHER, THE BUREAU DOES A VERY, VERY GOOD

  • JOB -- YOU CAN'T SAY, LOOK, THIS TERRORIST, OMAR, ALL RIGHT, YOU

  • HAD HIM, YOU KNEW MATEEN WAS A BAD GUY, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE

  • HIM IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME.

  • SO WHAT CAN YOU DO?

  • YOU CAN'T JUST DETAIN HIM, UNLESS CONGRESS DECLARES WAR

  • AGAINST THE ISLAMIC JIHAD, WHICH I SAY ON MY PROGRAM SHOULD

  • HAPPEN.

  • >> Stephen: I WANT TO TALK MOOSHT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

  • ACK WITH MORE BIL BILL O'REILLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

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