Name: 雷恩葛斯林與珊卓·霍勒談論飾演《極限追殺令》中的萊蘭葛瑞斯與伊娃·史特拉特！ (Ryan Gosling & Sandra Hüller on Becoming Ryland Grace & Eva Stratt in 'Project Hail Mary')
Uploaded: 2026-03-20T17:02:57.000Z
Duration: 29 min 29 s

You are so good in this film and I love it so much.

你在這部電影裡表現得太好了，我超愛！

But I think it's crazy that you were the first person to get the manuscript for it.

但我覺得你竟然是第一個拿到劇本的人，這也太瘋狂了吧。

Still, what was it like from that moment to you eventually saying yes and then becoming Rylan Gr Race?

不過，從那個時候到你最後答應，然後變成 Rylan Gr Race，這中間是怎麼樣的過程呢？

It was like this is lightning in a bottle.

I had no context for what I was about to read.

我對我即將讀到的內容沒有任何概念。

I didn't know what the story was about anything.

I knew he was asking me to not just be it, but also produce it.

我知道他要我不僅僅是演出，還要製作。

Obviously it hit me in a very deep and emotional way, as it does everyone, but

顯然這深深地觸動了我，就像對每個人一樣，但是

I didn't know because people hadn't started reading the book yet, that it would become what it has become, which is a modern sci fi masterpiece and one of the great science fiction books of all time.

我不知道，因為當時大家還沒開始讀這本書，它後來會變成什麼樣子，成為一部現代 sci fi 經典，以及史上最偉大的科幻小說之一。

As we're slowly piecing it together, I'm starting to realize just how important this book is to people.

隨著我們慢慢拼湊，我開始意識到這本書對大家有多重要。

I do have to say, as much as people love Ryland Grace, they're gonna love what you did with him even more.

我必須說，大家有多喜歡 Ryland Grace，就會有多喜歡你把他詮釋得更好。

I think as the actor, if I was reading, I'd be like, okay, so I'm gonna have to talk a lot with an alien.

我覺得身為演員，如果我讀到劇本，會想說，好，我得跟一個 Aliens 有很多對話。

I'm gonna be mostly in my socks on a spaceship, in a.

我大部分時間都會穿著襪子在太空梭上，在一個地方。

There's a lot of daunting aspects to this.

這有很多讓人望之卻步的地方。

What was the part that you were most like, oh, I gotta do that?

什麼部分讓你覺得「哇，我一定要演這個！」？

The potential to make one of those core memory films that don't come along very often, that you.

有機會拍出那種不常出現、能成為核心記憶的電影，那種。

You just remember where you were when you saw them, that they make a huge impact on you emotionally.

你會記得看它們時你在哪裡，它們能在情感上給你很大的衝擊。

這是 Andy 在他的作品裡會做的事。

He gives you this opportunity to pivot away from dystopian future narratives that we have been saturated in that the negative outcome has sort of permeated to the point where it feels inevitable.

他給了我們一個機會，可以從我們已經看膩的末日未來敘事中轉變出來，那種負面的結局已經滲透到讓人覺得無可避免。

And he sort of creates this beautiful work that says, wait, hold on.

然後他創作出這麼美好的作品，說著，等等，等等。

Maybe the future is not something to be feared, rather just figured out.

也許未來不是一件值得害怕的事，而是需要去弄清楚的事。

That opportunity to pivot, to think of it that way, to sort of see a character who turns his fear into curiosity.

那個轉變的機會，用那樣的方式去思考，去看到一個把恐懼變成好奇心的角色。

Even though the film is Incredibly spectacular.

而且就像一場無與倫比的旅程。

It's this reminder of what we're capable of as human beings.

它提醒著我們身為人類，我們到底有多大的能耐。

And this is not your first project in space.

而且這也不是你第一次參與太空相關的計畫了。

I mean you literally played the first man to walk on the moon.

我意思是，你真的演過第一個登上月球的人。

But I would think at this point you were just like JPL yesterday.

但我會想說，到了這個階段，你感覺就像昨天才剛從 JPL 來的。

You also are in that incredible Aliens snl.

你也演了那個超讚的 Aliens SNL。

Yeah, like I just feel like you in space.

對啊，就是感覺你跟太空很有連結。

Yeah, I'm a bit of a space case, I guess.

嗯，我猜我有點像是個太空迷。

你知道的，我就是這樣，沒辦法。

But what do you think intrigues you the most about it?

但你覺得最吸引你的是什麼呢？

As much as I want to understand, I don't understand.

雖然我很想懂，但我真的不懂。

一直做下去，你知道的，就是。

And then there's a great line in the trailer that says how does a school teacher end up in space trying to save the world?

預告片裡有句很棒的臺詞，說一位學校老師是怎麼會跑到太空去拯救世界的？

And I think that' an interesting way to sort of like put the whole bow on this experience.

我覺得這是一種很棒的方式，可以為這次的體驗畫下完美的句點。

What was it like playing such a reluctant hero?

扮演這樣一個不情願的英雄，感覺怎麼樣？

Like a guy that doesn't necessarily know if he can do it.

就像一個不確定自己能不能做到的人。

Well, I related to it, you know, I think, I mean, I think most of us can.

嗯，我很有共鳴，我覺得，我想我們大多數人都能。

So that's why it's such a powerful narrative, you know, because it's not a character who's stoic or heroic and all of these things that we're used to seeing and that I have played before.

這就是為什麼它是一個這麼有力量的故事，你知道的，因為他不是那種我們習慣看到、我也演過的、堅毅或英勇的角色。

It's way more relatable in the sense that this is someone who never even not only dreamed of being a hero, doesn't want to be a hero and finds out that the fate of the world is in his hands.

這樣更貼近我們，因為這個人不僅從來沒想過要當英雄，他也不想當英雄，結果卻發現世界的命運掌握在他手中。

So I could relate just in the sense that this book was such a powerful piece, potentially an all timer.

所以，我很有共鳴，因為這本書真是太有力量了，潛力無限。

And I just felt like, oh my God, I don't know how I'm going to do this.

我當時就覺得，天啊，我不知道我該怎麼辦。

I just sort of channeled my own doubt as we were going through this, this almost six year process.

在將近六年的過程中，我把自己的懷疑都投入進去了。

And I just like it just dovetailed perfectly with what the character was going through.

這也完美地契合了角色當時的處境。

But if you could just real quick tell us what it was like working with Chris and Phil because I know they were such a huge part of what y' all created.

但你能不能快速跟我們說說和 Chris 和 Phil 合作的感覺？因為我知道他們對你們的創作是如此重要。

There was no one else that could make this movie.

It's funny to say that they're so singular because there's two of them, but they are.

說他們是獨一無二的很有趣，因為他們有兩個，但他們確實是。

沒有一部電影像他們的電影那樣。

And this film had to be that we wouldn't be here if they hadn't agreed to do it.

而這部電影必須是，如果他們不同意，我們就不會在這裡了。

And like the character, they turn their fear into an anxiety, into.

就像角色一樣，他們把恐懼轉化為焦慮，轉化為。

This was on some levels and at times thought to be maybe an impossible thing to make, especially given the time it was given to me was theaters were shutting down and.

在某些層面上，有時候被認為也許是不可能完成的事情，特別是考慮到給我的時間，當時劇院正在關閉，而且。

And movie productions were shutting down.

But, like, they just roll up their sleeves and go, let's get to it.

但是，他們就是捲起袖子說，我們開始吧。

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