Name: 《怪奇物語》幕後祕辛：達菲兄弟口述歷史！ (An Oral History of 'Stranger Things’ with The Duffer Brothers)
Uploaded: 2025-12-04T17:00:52.000Z
Duration: 22 min 24 s

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And we're the creators of stranger things.

Guys, I really think we should turn back.

各位，我真的覺得我們應該回頭。

I would say the most important part of making the show was casting, and specifically season one casting.

我認為製作這部劇最重要的部分是選角，特別是第一季的選角。

We knew if we didn't have the right kids, the show was going to collapse.

我們知道如果沒有對的孩子，這部劇就會垮掉。

I think we had maybe two scripts written and we started casting.

我認為我們寫了大概兩集劇本就開始選角了。

So we started working on finding the cast really, really quickly.

所以我們很快就開始尋找演員了。

The characters, the kids, Mike, Lucas, Dustin, were pretty.

角色，那些孩子們，麥克、盧卡斯、達斯汀，還滿...

They weren't nearly as interesting or three dimensional as they are now.

他們不像現在這麼有趣或立體。

And that was because of the kids that we found.

So we were just looking for the best, most authentic kids.

所以我們只是在尋找最棒、最真實的孩子。

You know, a lot of these kids, they just sound rehearsed.

你知道嗎，很多孩子，聽起來就像排練過一樣。

A reference point for us, obviously, is the Goonies.

對我們來說，一個參考點，很明顯，就是七寶奇謀。

When we were kids and we saw that movie, it resonated with us so deeply because they sounded and spoke like we did with our friends.

所以當我們小時候看到那部電影時，它深深地觸動了我們，因為他們的說話方式就像我們跟朋友哈拉一樣。

So that's really what we were looking for.

Rather than finding a kid who perfectly matched the character that was written on the page.

與其找到一個完美符合劇本上角色的孩子。

And it was pretty clear right away that who was right for the role.

而且很明顯，誰適合這個角色。

I think to me, it sort of defines one of the key traits of the show, which is that and something we wanted to do from the very beginning and like the movies that we grew up loving, which is it's about the ordinary and the extraordinary.

我想對我來說，這定義了這部劇的關鍵特質之一，也就是我們從一開始就想做的，就像我們從小熱愛的電影一樣，它是關於平凡與非凡。

So you take something that everyone knows and everyone's familiar with, which is Christmas lights, and

所以你拿大家熟悉、大家都知道的東西，像是聖誕燈飾，然後

then you imbue it with something magical.

That image right there defines what the show is about, both in terms of tone, tone and thematically.

這個畫面定義了這部劇的意義，無論是語氣還是主題上。

So I think that might be one reason that it resonates also an amazing Winona Rider performance.

所以我想這可能是它產生共鳴的原因之一，還有薇諾娜·瑞德令人驚豔的演出。

In terms of figuring out what we wanted our monster to be and to look like.

在構思我們的怪物是什麼樣子、長什麼樣子的部分。

One is we wanted him to be played by an actor.

第一是我們希望由一位演員來飾演。

It ended up being played by an actor named Mark.

最後是由一位名叫馬克的演員來飾演。

We wanted it to be old school and capture it all on camera.

我們希望它是老派的，並且全部用攝影機捕捉。

There were a couple moments where we did have to rely on CG, but

有幾個時刻我們確實得依靠電腦特效，但

I would say about 95% of it is done entirely practical.

我會說大概有 95% 是完全實景拍攝的。

So that kind of limits what you can do, but in a good way.

所以這會限制你所能做的，但這是好事。

And the other thing is, we wanted this creature from a distance to look like a human.

另外一點是，我們希望這個怪物從遠處看起來像個人。

So that's where the face opening came from, because we needed it from a distance with its face closed to look like a human.

所以這就是臉部開啟的由來，因為我們需要它從遠處臉部閉合時看起來像個人。

So when Will sees it for the first time or really second time, when he's looking out his window and he sees it among the laundry, there's something very, very human about it.

所以當威爾第一次看到它，或者說第二次看到它，當他望著窗外，在洗衣堆裡看到它時，它有著非常非常人性化的感覺。

So all of that led to, I guess, or contributed to the ultimate design, the Demogorgorian.

所以這一切都導致了，我想，或者說促成了最終的設計，就是 the Demogorgorian。

I think what we also wanted to do was just make it so that if we talk to our concept artists about it, which is if you're a child and you watch this show and you really like it, can you draw it?

我想我們也想做的是，讓我們的概念藝術家們能夠這樣想：如果你是個孩子，看了這部劇，而且非常喜歡，你能畫出它嗎？

That's how the sort of the petals came about.

And every year that when we are designing a new creature, we think back on that with cg.

每年我們設計新怪物時，都會回想起 CG 的部分。

Now you can make things as complex and quote, unquote, realistic as you want, but

現在你可以讓東西變得盡可能複雜，引號內，引號內，真實，但

there's something about the monsters that we grew up loving, that there's just a simplicity to it, a childlike simplicity to it.

我們從小就喜歡的怪物，有種簡單性，一種童稚的簡單性。

So that's how we approach all of our monsters.

這就是我們處理所有怪物的方式。

Young lady, you know, you have to pay for those.

小姐，你知道，你得為那些付錢。

We came up with a character of Eleven, we knew we wanted her to have a shaved head very early on.

我們構思了 Eleven 這個角色時，很早就知道她要剃光頭。

And first of all, we knew she was going to be being experimented on.

首先，我們知道她會被當成實驗對象。

I don't remember her ever not having a shaved head.

我不記得她有過不是光頭的時候。

I think Fury Road came out around the same time.

我記得《芙莉歐莎：瘋狂麥斯傳奇篇章》大概是同期上映的。

And I do remember thinking Charlize looked particularly cool with a shaved head.

我記得覺得莎莉·賽隆剃光頭特別酷。

We showed that to Millie to make her feel comfortable in shaving her head.

我們把這給了米莉看，讓她對剃光頭感覺自在。

Because we're like, look how cool Charlize looks.

因為我們想說，你看莎莉·賽隆多帥啊。

I mean, it's not like we invented that idea.

我覺得這不是我們發明的點子。

I think that's been prevalent and certainly in some Steven King stories.

我覺得這很普遍，尤其是在史蒂芬·金的一些故事裡。

But, you know, we like the idea of grounding her abilities as much as possible.

但你知道，我們喜歡盡可能讓她的能力接地氣的想法。

So we like the idea that it was, you know, causing some pain in some way.

所以我們喜歡這個點子，你知道，以某種方式造成一些痛苦。

That's not something that comes easily to her.

So that's something that's been always important with us, to ground it, to ground as much as possible.

所以這一直是我們很重視的一點，盡可能讓它貼近現實。

I don't remember where the ego idea came from.

我不記得那個「自我」的想法是從哪裡來的。

I think it came more from we remembered movies of our childhood and youth.

我想這更多是來自於我們回憶起童年和青春時期的電影。

Even something like E.T. where you've got E.T. loving his Reese's Pieces.

像是《E.T.》這部電影，裡面 E.T. 喜歡吃 Reese's Pieces。

And so I think when, when we were thinking about 11, what would she like?

所以我想，當我們在思考 11 號角色時，她會喜歡什麼呢？

We were thinking about the products from, from our childhood and Eggos popped into our head and we, and

我們想到我們童年時期的產品，然後就想到了 Eggos，我們…

we love that idea of combining sort of a classic brand with this young human who hadn't really experienced life at all and certainly hadn't experienced the 80s or Eggos.

我們很喜歡這種結合經典品牌和一個還沒真正體驗過人生，更別說 80 年代或 Eggos 的年輕人類的想法。

But we had no idea that Eggos would become that much of a thing.

但我們完全沒想到 Eggos 會變得這麼受歡迎。

We're just like, this is something the lesn could eat.

我們只是覺得，這是小孩子可以吃的東西。

Whenever you're making the show, you never know what is gonna resonate with people or not.

當你在製作節目時，你永遠不知道什麼會引起觀眾的共鳴，什麼不會。

Sometime in the breaking of season one, Netflix asked us for a document explaining all the.

在第一季播出的某個時候，Netflix 要求我們提供一份文件，解釋所有…

They were just wanted to make sure we knew what was going on because there are a lot of strange things happening in the show, of course.

他們只是想確保我們知道發生了什麼事，因為節目裡當然有很多奇怪的事情發生。

And so we wrote up this 20 some page document and it explained a lot of things about the show, including Eleven's powers and about the upside down.

所以我們寫了一份二十幾頁的文件，解釋了節目中的許多事情，包括 Eleven 的能力和顛倒世界。

而且它精確地解釋了那是什麼。

But we told them we still want it to be a mystery, but

但我們告訴他們，我們仍然希望它保持神祕，不過

we're going to reveal it over the course of subsequent seasons.

我們會在之後的幾季中逐步揭露。

然後我們就到了這裡，第五季。

So it's finally time to explain what it is.

所以現在終於是時候解釋它到底是什麼了。

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