Name: 上帝寬恕強姦犯和殺人犯......卻不寬恕這個？ (God Forgives Rapists & Murderers… But Not This?)
Uploaded: 2025-04-01T17:39:41.000Z
Duration: 22 min

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Ah, yes, the unforgivable sin, a term so simple and yet so immediately disqualifying to the claims of all-powerful or all-merciful or all-benevolent.

啊，是的，"不可饒恕的罪過"，這個詞如此簡單，卻讓全能、慈悲或仁慈的說法立刻失去了資格。

We can put these two together and looking at these, either God can't forgive this sin, in which case he is not all-powerful.

我們可以把這兩件事放在一起來看，要麼上帝不能赦免這個罪，要麼他不是萬能的。

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There is something limiting him and the only get out of jail free card there is that he chose for this to limit him, which would then immediately disqualify the all-merciful or all-loving.

有什麼東西限制了他，唯一的免罪金牌就是他選擇了這個東西來限制他，這樣一來，全仁或全愛就立刻失去了資格。

不過，讓我們暫時擱置這個問題。

We're gonna get back to the philosophical issues and I have some other ones, some that I think most people haven't even considered because they're so busy just trying to figure out what is the unforgivable sin and have I committed it?

我們要回到哲學問題上來，我還有一些其他的問題，我認為大多數人甚至都沒有考慮過，因為他們忙著去弄清楚什麼是不可饒恕的罪，我犯了這種罪嗎？

是以，我們今天的議程很簡單。

Unlike this doctrinal issue, we are going to look at the verses that Christians get this idea from.

與這一教義問題不同的是，我們要看看基督徒從哪些經文中獲得這一觀點。

Then I'm going to show you some contradictory verses.

那我就給你看一些自相矛盾的經文。

Then I'm going to show you how Christians, both in the past and present, have dealt with this and what their answer is.

然後，我會向你展示古今中外的基督徒是如何處理這個問題的，以及他們的答案是什麼。

And then we're gonna talk again about some of these philosophical problems.

然後我們再來談談這些哲學問題。

And really quick, just before we get to the verses that supposedly explain what the unforgivable sin is, I want you all to remember Mark 4, 10 through 12.

真的很快，就在我們讀到所謂解釋什麼是不可饒恕的罪的經文之前，我希望你們都記住馬可福音第四章第 10 至 12 節。

You can go read it for yourself, but this is when Jesus says that he purposely speaks in parables, essentially riddles, to confuse so that people will hear but not understand, lest they what?

你可以自己去讀，但這是耶穌說他故意用比喻（本質上是謎語）來說話，目的是混淆視聽，讓人聽了卻不明白，以免他們怎麼做？

以免他們轉過身來，得到寬恕。

Many people don't like to grapple with this verse and it probably deserves its own video.

很多人都不喜歡研究這節經文，也許這節經文應該有自己的視頻。

But the reason I bring it up now is because a lot of the justification from Christians as they deal with the unforgivable sin is that God wants to forgive everybody.

但我現在提出來的原因是，基督徒在面對不可饒恕的罪時，很多理由都是上帝想寬恕所有人。

But I think this verse over here shows that's not true.

但我認為這節經文表明事實並非如此。

And so before I show you the plethora of excuses coming about why Jesus didn't properly define the unforgivable sin, just keep in the back of your mind.

是以，在我向你展示耶穌為何沒有正確定義不可饒恕之罪的大量藉口之前，請在腦海中牢記這一點。

Maybe Jesus isn't the guy you think he is.

也許耶穌並不是你想象中的那個人。

But let's get into the verses where people get the concept of an unforgivable sin.

但是，讓我們來看看人們是如何理解 "不可饒恕的罪 "這一概念的。

而且只有馬太福音、馬可福音和路加福音。

He comes later and by then that's too problematic and he needs to make Jesus more powerful and more divine.

他是後來才來的，到那時就太成問題了，他需要讓耶穌變得更強大、更神聖。

So an unforgivable sin for that Jesus, no bueno.

對耶穌來說，這是不可饒恕的罪過。

And there are some slight tweaks between Matthew, Mark, and Luke as they talk about this, but I'll just give you Mark's, which is the first time that this would have been written down.

馬太福音》、《馬可福音》和《路加福音》在談論此事時有一些細微的調整，但我只想告訴你《馬可福音》的內容，這是第一次將此事寫下來。

And this comes just seven chapters before the other verse that I just read you.

這節經文就在我剛才讀到的另一節經文之前七章。

A lot of times Christians will say, so what that we can't agree.

很多時候，基督徒會說，我們不能達成一致又怎樣？

It won't matter if you just love Jesus, if you just follow Jesus, if you just believe in Jesus, if you just do what Jesus says.

如果你只是愛耶穌，只是跟隨耶穌，只是相信耶穌，只是按照耶穌說的去做，那都沒有關係。

But one of the things he said is that you will not be forgiven if, and yet we can't agree on exactly what that if is, even in context.

但他說的其中一句話是，如果出現 "如果"，你就不會得到寬恕，但我們卻無法就 "如果 "到底是什麼達成一致，即使在上下文中也是如此。

And it looks like it has eternal consequence.

So tell me again, it's not a salvation issue.

所以再告訴我一遍，這不是救贖的問題。

It's just amazing that Christians can dismiss this like it's not a big deal.

令人驚訝的是，基督徒們竟然可以把這件事當作無足輕重的小事。

Very similar to how I started my video about the Christian Avengers and the debate about hell.

這與我關於基督教復仇者聯盟和地獄之爭的視頻開頭非常相似。

Shrugging this off as, I don't know, some things are going to be mysteries is not an acceptable answer about things that involve our eternal fate.

在涉及我們永恆命運的事情上，以 "我不知道，有些事情會很神祕 "來搪塞是不能接受的答案。

He has been getting beat up by every Christian apologist on the internet about some of the things he has said or what he and the Avengers said.

他說過的一些話，或者他和復仇者聯盟說過的話，在互聯網上遭到了所有基督教辯護士的抨擊。

Because they all, guess what, disagree with each other and now are calling each other out in public.

因為，你猜怎麼著，他們都不同意對方的觀點，現在還在公開場合互相指責。

我敢肯定有反對這種做法的經文。

Then he had Sam on his show, and I guess that's not going to air.

然後他讓薩姆上了他的節目，我猜那節目不會播出了。

I just saw Sam's take on it, where I'm sure he just berated George into such frustration that he couldn't get a word out.

我剛看了山姆的報道，他肯定是把喬治罵得啞口無言。

I emailed George and I said, man, I know an atheist is probably the last person you want to hear from, but I am genuinely empathizing with your position.

我給喬治發了一封電子郵件，我說，夥計，我知道無神論者可能是你最不想聽到的人，但我對你的立場感同身受。

You genuinely had issues with free will and the concept of eternal hell.

你確實對自由意志和永恆地獄的概念有意見。

And you were told essentially you were being too prideful to shut up, to stop thinking about it, that you were wrong, even though no one can agree, that you were leading Christians astray, and all the other things that he has been attacked for.

有人告訴你，從本質上講，你太驕傲了，不應該閉嘴，不應該再思考這個問題，你錯了，儘管沒有人能同意你的觀點，你把基督徒引入了歧途，以及其他所有他被攻擊的事情。

And I said, bro, let's just have a conversation.

我說，兄弟，我們還是好好談談吧。

我甚至不在乎是否會被錄下來。

I just want to give you a little bit of truth and encouragement.

我只想給你們一點真理和鼓勵。

I'm sure it's not even George that sees the emails or anything, and I'm a pretty small fish in that pond, but oof.

我敢肯定，連喬治都不會看到這些郵件什麼的，而我在那個池塘裡也只是條小魚，但嗚嗚嗚......

This is just another example of all that is my point.

這只是我要說的所有事情的又一個例子。

You think Christians don't want to be able to have answers to this?

你以為基督徒不想知道答案嗎？

But when they don't, they have to act like that's a good thing.

但當他們不這樣做時，他們就得裝出一副這是好事的樣子。

Well, yeah, Jesus isn't going to spend that much time talking about it, because if people really love and follow Jesus, they're probably not going to commit it anyways.

嗯，是的，耶穌不會花那麼多時間談論這個問題，因為如果人們真的愛耶穌並追隨耶穌，他們可能無論如何都不會犯這個錯誤。

And all the other stupid and horrendous things they say to make excuses for the fact that they can't figure it out.

還有他們為了給自己想不通找藉口而說的所有其他愚蠢而可怕的話。

Now, let me give you the context of where all of these verses are, because that is going to be a part of this.

現在，讓我給你們介紹一下這些經文的上下文，因為這將是本文的一部分。

There is an incident where Jesus is accused of casting out demons via the power of Satan, not the power of God.

有一次，耶穌被指控藉助撒旦的力量而不是上帝的力量趕鬼。

And so it seems his response in context is that attributing the work of the spirit to Satan is the unforgivable sin.

是以，從上下文來看，他的回答似乎是，把靈的工作歸咎於撒旦是不可饒恕的罪。

And people that hang on very tightly to that context have a very different idea about it.

而緊緊抓住這種背景的人，對它的理解卻大相徑庭。

And you're going to see that here in just a minute when we do some comparing.

稍後，我們將在這裡進行比較。

But there's still a couple things that we can point out, even in context that don't add up.

但是，我們仍然可以指出幾件事情，即使是在上下文中也是不吻合的。

And then as it expands further into the Christian world building that has happened over the centuries, it just gets even more muddled.

當它進一步擴展到幾個世紀以來發生的基督教世界建設時，它就變得更加混亂了。

But even for those that think it's so literal, they've got it so figured out, give me a precise definition of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

但即使是那些認為它是如此直白、他們已經弄明白了的人，也請給我一個褻瀆聖靈的準確定義。

Check your works amongst yourself, by the way.

順便說一句，請互相檢查一下你們的作品。

They won't agree, because it's not spelled out, no matter how bad you want it to be or say that it is.

他們不會同意的，因為無論你多麼希望它是這樣，或者說它是這樣，它都沒有說清楚。

Also, there is zero clarity on if this is something that can still be occurring today, or if it was only a sin of unforgivable proportions that could take place during Jesus's earthly ministry.

此外，這是否是今天仍然可能發生的事情，還是隻有在耶穌在世時才可能發生的不可饒恕的罪行，也沒有明確的說法。

You can't pull that between the context lines either.

你也不能在上下文之間這樣說。

And even if you could answer both of these, which you can't, we're still left with all the other philosophical problems.

即使你能回答這兩個問題，但你回答不了，我們仍然會遇到其他哲學問題。

Like, if the Trinity is one in unity and you can mock God and mock Jesus or blaspheme God and Jesus, but not the Holy Spirit, then are they truly one and the same?

比如，如果三位一體是合一的，你可以嘲笑上帝，嘲笑耶穌，或者褻瀆上帝和耶穌，但不能褻瀆聖靈，那麼他們真的是一體的嗎？

Or just better said, why can you blaspheme two of the three things that equal one thing?

或者乾脆說，為什麼你可以褻瀆三件等同於一件的事物中的兩件？

And if it's the only unforgivable sin, why is it not emphasized more?

如果這是唯一不可饒恕的罪過，為什麼沒有更多強調呢？

So again, you can point to, it's here, it's in these verses, and it happened in this context.

是以，你可以再次指出，它就在這裡，就在這些經文中，就發生在這種背景下。

Okay, but then why isn't it mentioned more?

好吧，那為什麼沒有更多提及呢？

Jesus talks about so many things multiple times that are sinful, like the greed of money, the lust of man.

耶穌多次談到許多罪惡的事情，比如對金錢的貪婪、人的慾望。

Instead, we get this one strange instance for the thing that is so much more serious than the others.

相反，我們卻得到了這樣一個奇怪的事例，它比其他事例要嚴重得多。

Why is there no follow-up from Paul or Peter or any other New Testament writer?

為什麼保羅、彼得或其他《新約》作者都沒有跟進呢？

I mean, Paul is spending half of his time still trying to figure out and talk about if people can eat certain foods or if they need to be circumcised or not, because people were still holding on to the law so tightly.

我的意思是，保羅有一半的時間還在試圖弄清楚並討論人們是否可以吃某些食物，或者是否需要行割禮，因為人們仍然緊緊抓住律法不放。

But all of that was still covered under Jesus's blood.

但這一切仍被耶穌的鮮血所覆蓋。

He's not saying anything about the unforgivable sin.

他並沒有說什麼不可饒恕的罪。

He says he's the worst of sinners, someone who persecuted Christians, but the worst sin would be the unforgivable one.

他說自己是罪大惡極的人，是迫害基督徒的人，但最嚴重的罪是不可饒恕的罪。

If he didn't commit it, he wasn't the worst of sinners.

如果他沒有犯罪，他就不是罪大惡極的人。

And again, we're going to pull a few of these out and talk about them in detail.

我們將再次抽出其中的幾項進行詳細討論。

But right now, you are probably, if you're a Christian, thinking one of two things.

但現在，如果你是一名基督徒，你可能正在想兩件事中的一件。

Yeah, I don't know either, that's a problem, or I know and here's the answer, and that's a problem.

是的，我也不知道，這是個問題，或者我知道，答案在這裡，這也是個問題。

If you know and you have an answer, you are most likely repeating something you have heard from the pulpit or from an apologist.

如果你知道並且有了答案，那麼你很可能是在重複從講壇或辯護士那裡聽來的東西。

So, before you spout out why you know what it is for certain when all of Christendom hasn't been able to agree, let me just show you what some of the thought leaders from the community have said.

所以，在你大談為什麼在整個基督教都無法達成一致的情況下，你卻知道什麼是 "肯定 "之前，請允許我向你展示一些來自社區的思想領袖所說的話。

John MacArthur says, it's a permanent, willful rejection of the gospel.

約翰-麥克阿瑟（John MacArthur）說，這是對福音永久的、故意的拒絕。

Billy Graham, an evangelist who actually saved my grandma at her crusade, argues that it is a simple rejection of Jesus's calling to you, essentially dying in unbelief.

比利-格雷厄姆（Billy Graham）是一位佈道家，他曾在我奶奶的佈道會中拯救過她，他認為這只是拒絕耶穌對你的呼喚，本質上是死於不信。

William Lane Craig says, it's no single sin, probably.

威廉-萊恩-克雷格（William Lane Craig）說，這可能不是單一的罪。

Ray Comfort says, it's the atheist, the one who openly mocks God.

雷-康福特（Ray Comfort）說，這就是無神論者，公開嘲笑上帝的人。

Except for everything you've ever heard me say, none of it has been a mock towards God.

除了你們聽我說過的所有話，沒有一句是對上帝的嘲諷。

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