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OKAY.
THAT'S IT FROM ME.
I NOW WITH GREAT PLEASURE YIELD
ON AS MUCH OF THIS HISTORY AS HE
CARES TO IS NEWT GINGRICH,
FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,
FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND AUTHOR
OF, "DEFEATING BIG GOVERNMENT
SOCIALISM," SAVING AMERICA'S
FUTURE.
I YIELD TO THE GREAT HONORABLE,
AND BRILLIANT SPEAKER
NEWT GINGRICH.
NEWT, WE CAN TALK HISTORY.
WE CAN TALK POLITICS.
WE CAN DO ANY DARN THING YOU
FEEL LIKE DOING.
>> WELL, I THINK YOU COVERED A
LOT OF THE GROUND PRETTY DARN
WELL.
THERE WERE 14 MULTIPLE BALLOT
SPEAKERSHIPS.
THE LONGEST ONE IS ACTUALLY 1855
WHEN IT TOOK TWO MONTHS AND 133
BALLOTS.
NOW I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO
GET TO THAT, BUT I HAVE TO TELL
YOU, I'VE BEEN WATCHING C-SPAN
MORE INTENTLY TODAY THAN ANYTIME
IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AND I
WAS IMPRESSED THAT EVEN WHEN THE
REBEL ABOUTS DECIDED TO
CONSOLIDATE AROUND JIM JORDAN,
WHO OF COURSE HAD JUST NOMINATED
KEVIN McCARTHY, THE NUMBER OF
VOTES DIDN'T CHANGE, THEY DIDN'T
GET ANY NEW VOTES.
I'M LOOKING TO THE THIRD, FOURTH
AND FIFTH BALLOTS TO SEE WHAT
WILL HAPPEN.
MY GUESS IS THAT McCARTHY IN
FACT WILL IN THE END BE SPEAKER.
I WROTE A NEWSLETTER RECENTLY
POINTING IT WAS KEVIN OR CHAOS.
IF FOR ANY REASON THE RADICALS
WERE TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO DRIVE
HIM OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE
ESTABLISHED A PRECEDENT THAT
ANYBODY ELSE CAN DO THE SAME
THING.
LINCOLN WARNED ABOUT THIS IN HIS
FIRST INAUGURAL.
SAID THE PROBLEM WITH SECESSION
IS, ONCE YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED
THAT RIGHT, EVERYBODY CAN SECEDE
FROM EVERYBODY.
THE FIVE WHO STARTED THIS FIVE
HAVE NOW GIVEN EVERY OTHER
MEMBER OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN
PARTY THE MORAL RIGHT TO GO OUT
AND FIND FOUR FRIENDS AND HAVE
THE SAME CHAOS.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THE
CONFERENCE HAS BEEN
OVERWHELMINGLY SOLID.
THEY STILL ARE OVERWHELMINGLY
SOLID, EVEN WITH JIM JORDAN'S
NAME.
JORDAN CERTAINLY A VERY SERIOUS
PERSON.
THE NUMBERS DIDN'T CHANGE AT
ALL.
THEY HAD 19.
KEVIN GOT 202.
THAT MEANS HE IS GETTING BETTER
THAN 10 VOTES FOR EVERY VOTE THE
REBELS CAN PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK THEY HAVE NO ENGAME.
THESE PEOPLE CAN'T PLAY
TIC-TAC-TOE.
I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE
PROBLEM.
THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES
CAUGHT IN THE BUS.
GOT THEMSELVES IN THE POSITION.
THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF IT.
IF KEVIN IS PREPARED CALMLY,
WAIT THEM OUT.
THE DISTRICTS ARE CALLING THEM,
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
WHY ARE YOU RUINING THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY?
LARRY: NEWT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST
SEEMS TO ME, AND I HAVE BEEN IN
TOUCH, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL OVER
THIS THING.
I'VE BEEN OUT FOR A WEEK OR SO
BUT I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH A LOT IN
THE LAST 48 HOURS TO FRIENDS OF
MINE WHO ARE HOUSE MEMBERS OR
SENIOR STAFF.
SEEMS TO ME, NEWT THIS IS ABOUT
PERSONALITIES, NOT POLICIES.
I DON'T LIKE THINGS ABOUT
PERSONALITIES.
I DON'T LIKE THINGS TO GET
PERSONAL.
POLITICS SHOULD BE A NOBLE
PROFESSION DONE WITH CIVILITY.
YOU FOUGHT FOR THAT YOUR WHOLE
CAREER.
THERE ARE ISSUES.
STAY WITH THE GOP.
THE GOP HAS COMMITMENT TO
AMERICA.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM GET
STARTED ON IT.
>> YOU KNOW WHEN JIM JORDAN GOT
UP AND KEVIN ON THE SECOND ROUND
HE GAVE A VERY ELOQUENT SPEECH.
I TWEETED HOW GOOD I THOUGHT IT
WAS.
HE MADE THE POINT THAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED THIS
REPUBLICAN MAJORITY TO DO VERY
SERIOUS THINGS THAT ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO AMERICA'S FUTURE
AND THAT THESE GUYS ARE FRANKLY
REALLY VIOLATING THE ENTIRE
REASON THE CONSERVATIVES AND
REPUBLICANS WORKED SO HARD.
REMEMBER, ON THE HOUSE HARD WE
GOT 3 1/2 MILLION MORE VOTES
THAN THE DEMOCRATS.
KEVIN LEGITIMATETY CAN CLAIM TO
SPEAK FOR A MAJORITY.
I THINK IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A
GAME.
I AM TOLD BY PRETTY GOOD SOURCE
THAT LAST NIGHT SEVERAL OF THESE
FOLKS WENT IN TO SEE KEVIN AND
THEY HAD A WHOLE NEW LIST OF 30
ITEMS, SOME OF WHICH WERE
FRANKLY PRETTY EMBARRASSINGLY
VENAL WHO OUGHT TO BE PUT ON
APPROPRIATIONS, WHO OUGHT TO BE
PUT ON RULES, WHO OUGHT TO GET
TO CHAIR SOMETHING.
TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BASICALLY
TRYING TO BLACKMAIL.
THEY'RE NOT BLACKMAILING KEVIN
McCARTHY.
THEY'RE BLACKMAILING A
REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE IN WHICH
85% OF THE CONFERENCE VOTED FOR
McCARTHY OVER HIS COMPETITOR.
NORMALLY IN EVERY SOCIETY I KNOW
OF, 85% IS A PRETTY BIG
MAJORITY.
NORMALLY YOU WOULD FIND PEOPLE
COMING TOGETHER.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS
WILL TAKE.
I DO THINK IN THE END McCARTHY
WILL BECOME SPEAKER.
FOR ONE THING HE WILL HAVE A LOT
HIGHER NAME I.D. THAN HE WOULD
HAVE HAD WITHOUT THIS FIGHT.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH.
VERY SERIOUS PLAN AS YOU KNOW TO
REALLY CHANGE THINGS.
LARRY: NO, I DON'T MEAN TO INTER
RESULT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN SOME
WAYS THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THIS
BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD IS NOW
WATCHING AND KEVIN McCARTHY
HAS BECOME A HOUSEHOLD WORD.
AS LONG AS THEY SPELL THE NAME
RIGHT IT IS GOING TO WORK OUT
OKAY.
I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO WORK
OUT OKAY.
WHEREAS BEFORE THIS IT WAS A
SMALL THING.
NOW IT IS A GIGANTIC THING.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYBODY
TELL ME IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO,
WHETHER THE REPUBLICANS TOOK THE
HOUSE.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT
ANYMORE.
THIS TAKES ALL THAT STUFF AWAY,
PUTS IT ON THE FRONT PAGE AND,
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MAKE
CHANGES AND BLUNT THE BIDEN
RADICAL AGENDA ALSO BECOMES PART
OF THAT FRONT PAGE STORY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
ALL I WOULD SAY IS, I WOULD
APPEAL TO EVERYBODY WATCHING, IF
YOU'RE IN THE DISTRICT OF ONE OF
THESE SO-CALLED REBELS, PICK UP
THE PHONE AND CALL THEIR OFFICE.
I MEAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SO
DESTRUCTIVE AND CANDIDLY SO
STUPID.
THEY HAVE NO END GAME.
THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE THROWING THE EQUIVALENT
OF A TEMPER TANTRUM.
THE MORE THEY HEAR FROM BACK
HOME, THE MORE PEOPLE SAY TO
THEM, LET'S GET ON WITH DOING
AMERICA'S BUSINESS, NOT
GRANDSTANDING, THE SOONER THIS
WILL END.
LARRY: 100%.
NEWT GINGRICH, TERRIFIC STUFF AS
ALWAYS.
AMERICA'S -- BY THE WAY, NEWT, I
DON'T THINK YOU WERE AROUND
EITHER BUT I THOUGHT THOMAS JEFF
SON WAS WAY TOO LIBERAL GIVING
FIVE VOTES TO VACATE THE CHAIR
THAT REALLY IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW
YOU RUN THE PLACE ON THAT BASIS.
>> LOOK.
I COUNSELED HIM AGAINST IT.
I SAID, TOM, THIS IS NOT THE WAY
YOU OUGHT TO GO.
HE SAID, NEWT, I'M DISCUSS NOT
GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU.
LARRY: THAT'S FABULOUS.
NEWT GINGRICH, YOU ARE THE BEST.
HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY NEW YEAR