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to a very fun question today and i'm curious what  you guys will say so the question is if you could  

be famous would you want to be who wants to start  should i call on someone or do we have any takers

would i want to be famous  if i could would i want to  

sure yeah why not just to see  what it's like i would i would

so i just saw the movie gucci over  the weekend and i thought that was fun  

yeah it wasn't the best movie it was a little  bit long but i actually think it would be  

kind of cool to be a famous fashion designer  just because it's so the opposite of what i  

know and do right i do not do fashion i  do i need help for my friends and family  

disaster i never know what goes together i don't  like i'm not so something that is so totally  

different i think it'd be fun to be a famous  fashion designer it's fascinating to me that  

you left that movie thinking i would like to be  a favorite like murderer and like horrible people  

well we all take something different exactly what  about you jessica would you want to be would you  

want to be famous sure yeah totally uh let's see  i would want to be like a famous like actress  

or something being like super cool movies and tv  shows and stuff um yeah i mean who gosh yeah who  

doesn't want to be famous i don't know okay okay  we have a raised hand guys i absolutely would not  

want to be famous because i really value my  privacy i want to be able to go to the park  

and not have to worry about people taking pictures  of my kids or i don't want to have to wear makeup  

or a bra you know what i mean like i don't want  people following me around especially the more i i  

hear about um blake lively and what's his name  ryan reynolds reynolds are a really good example  

where they have just really had difficulties  with keeping their children out of the media and  

away from like paparazzi photos and they're like  constantly having to um contact people to say take  

those pictures off like instagram and it's it just  sounds miserable to me so i would not want to be  

worried about my kid's safety i've run into a few  famous people with their kids in new york city and  

you could just see how like worried they were that  they're like so worried about their kids either  

being abducted or just like pictures of them in  the media i'm like i would not want that life you  

know what i mean i wouldn't want to be recognized  for my face maybe i could be a famous author  

where people don't know what i look like but  like like i have read about or heard about  

celebrities that really um create a life that is  out of the spotlight and they do that successfully  

like they don't live in la they don't live  in new york like they have you know like a  

ranch in idaho or something and then um so i i do  think it's possible i know it's harder for sure  

but you're rich like you could do it like if  you're that like rich and famous you could create  

a life for yourself somewhere else and then the  other thing is like when you do see famous people  

in real life they don't look exactly like they do  on tv like i think a lot of a lot of famous people  

i don't know maybe you don't recognize them right  away because they don't they're not like perfect  

i don't know well that's the other thing i'll see  pictures in whatever celebrity magazines you know  

people magazine i'm like oh i feel so bad for them  that they're like they're putting these terrible  

pictures where they're making a weird face and  they don't have makeup on and this magazine for  

everyone to see i don't want someone to see that  photo of me yeah yeah i like them at their best on  

the red carpet all the time it's just whatever  they look like getting coffee yeah that's why  

they're always wearing sunglasses right they're  always huge sunglasses covering their faces  

that's why one of the cool things about like  somebody like amy schumer is like she is  

unapologetically you know herself whether or not  she is you know so like because sometimes like i  

follow her on instagram and she just posts things  she doesn't care if she's wearing makeup she just  

kind of like she just owns it she's like well this  is me and so you could choose to be like that um  

so so in that way like i like kind of celebrities  who are more real like that and you can you can  

see them in their natural habitat i wonder if  that depends though it looks amazing without  

makeup i've seen them i look like a naked handle  rat without makeup i can't pull it off like amy  

schumer can pull it off i wonder if that depends  though too on their amy schumer does like comedic  

roles right she's a funny is she a stand-up  comedian as well she okay so i wonder if that's  

just kind of quirky personalities that always play  a certain type right what about other people who  

are playing a very polished you know very feminine  woman could she also be quirky like that in the  

real world i guess um who is not jennifer aniston  who was married to ben affleck for a little while  

um jennifer jennifer garner yeah she has a really  funny instagram channel where she's baking have  

you seen that she's really quirky in that so she's  totally herself and super funny so that could be  

an example of someone who's played very typical  female roles and is very quirky on social media so  

yeah i love how she's just like a mom like  whatever you see her i'm like she's just  

a mom who happens to act yes yeah that's how it  feels right yeah so i think it is kind of in a way  

like i don't know if it's more like society's  responsibility or the individual celebrity's  

responsibility to like you know you said  oh amy schumer is a stand-up comedian so  

she can you know act like that or you know just  protect herself in a certain way and others can't  

like that's not really i i feel like oh we have  this some people have this unfair expectation of  

what a celebrity should look like so i don't know  if it's really their responsibility to be like no  

like here i'm a real person or is that not their  responsibility and they just are out there in  

their you know red carpets doing that stuff and  then otherwise they're keep pretty private i don't  

know the other interesting thing is like um i feel  like celebrities have more of pressure or a lot of  

them at least seem like they feel pressure to  get like plastic surgery and botox and whatever  

to keep looking young especially women i really  appreciate someone like francis mcdormand who's  

like no i'm gonna love her whatever but most women  who are older start looking so plastic and scary  

because they're trying to look young still and  it's a bummer that they have that pressure it  

is yeah no it's terrible because then like the you  can always tell yeah when there has been too much  

surgery and they look terrible like they still  look they're trying to avoid looking terrible  

but they end up looking terrible but in like an  alien way like it's fine to be like a natural you  

know like some wrinkles and some extra skin and  you know stuff like that but to be like like this  

interesting thing with the new top gun movie  coming out where the female lead in the older  

top gun movie was like not approached like they  don't what she's like i look like an older you  

know she's like i haven't had a lot of work done  so she's like they weren't interested at all and  

meanwhile you know it's tom cruise still but with  like younger women though i think it was jennifer  

connelly that was cast and she's not super young  but i don't know if she's had work done but anyway  

she was like really calling it out that she's  like absolutely not she's like i'm not offered  

any roles now because i just look like an older  interesting i think it is so it is so interesting  

how we're talking mostly about women here and  right fascinating like guys are allowed to sort  

of age and start getting white hair and look older  and it's fine they can still date a 25 year old  

in the movies anyway it's such a double standard  oh when i think about this it makes me angry it's  

true and it's not just in the movies it's  in everyday life you know i love when i see  

like um um gosh i wish i could think of an  example but there are a few just like gorgeous  

famous women out there who have like much younger  husbands or boyfriends and it always seems like a  

bigger deal right and i like i'm like yes you go  for it like it's so exciting because men just like  

they just feel like it's their right like uh like  i'm a man i could do i could have like whoever  

and ladies are like oh it's not appropriate people  will think badly of me or whatever olivia munn's a  

good example i think she and jason sudeikis just  got divorced and now she's with what's his name  

from olivia wilde harry styles yeah i know well  i'm a time lapse so i'm i'm a ted lasso fan so  

i i'm i you sadly split up yeah like i don't know  i'm kind of i mean i don't really follow celebrity  

anything but i did follow that specifically  because of tedla and that just made me upset  

so good for her for harry styles and for what  jess said but like yeah i know i love dragons  

quick aside i saw jason sudeikis once in new  york leaving 30 rock he was doing snl at the  

time and i thought i knew him from like church  i was like did you talk to him from church  

my husband was like no no it's not stop stop weird  and god it's hilarious i love him for the show i  

was like oh he's fine but like now from the show  and i love him anyway so i guess you know that we  

have to think about if we were celebrities like  would we be you know nervous to be out in the  

open would would you be the type of celebrity  who lives somewhere else and is very private  

just really quickly let's just go through before  we head out how would you live your life as a  

celebrity uh jess i would live in a small town i  would just be just live my life away from wherever  

i had to work i think um yeah i do hear interviews  with celebrities that are very kind and they love  

meeting fans like conan o'brien he's like he wants  to connect with everybody and like you know sign  

everybody's gonna read that way oh god he's so  cool you're just like right on the subway i could  

i couldn't do that like i couldn't have people in  in my space all the time um yeah so i'd like to  

isolate myself yeah yeah what's the point of being  famous i guess that you have the money the money  

you have money the money you like money and doing  like really getting to be like a really unique  

cool talented person that people can respect your  unique amazing talents we already have that though

um audrey what about you what kind of famous  person would you be would you be hiding or would  

you i would hide i would live in a country where  people don't care nearly as much about celebrities  

i for sure wouldn't live in the united states and  in like a little cabin in the middle of nowhere  

especially if i had kids maybe if i were single or  didn't have kids i i wouldn't care i wouldn't care  

about being wherever and and noticed maybe it'd be  fine no because i still don't want to wear makeup  

i would hide uh-huh i would be somebody why  do you have to wear makeup as a celebrity  

because i look like a naked mole  rat if you don't i'm sure you don't  

look up a picture of a naked mole rat online and  that's oh without me right and then i'm gonna  

have you send me no eyelashes silly lindsay what  about you right away well i think in the beginning  

i would have to be in la just to make a career for  myself you know pay your dues make the connections  

go to the parties exactly so right so as  you're getting famous then eventually when  

i had the notoriety and people knew me i'd  probably leave la but i think you do need  

to probably put in your time yeah you'd have to  as people start to notice you little by little  

what do they say rub elbows as they say  yeah absolutely big money yeah absolutely  

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