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  • you just announced a raise for sandbox and I know you're doing things with Snoop Dogg in there as well and you guys seem to almost kind of license or pull brands into the gaming universe and allow them to kind of thrive on their own.

    你們剛剛宣佈為沙盒加薪,我知道你們也在和Snoop Dogg一起做事情,你們似乎幾乎是在授權或將品牌拉入遊戲領域,讓它們自己茁壯成長。

  • I'm trying to get my head around exactly what you guys do, but maybe you could tell me and then tell me about some of your games as a way of maybe describing it.

    我想弄清楚你們到底是做什麼的,但也許你可以告訴我,然後告訴我你們的一些遊戲,作為一種可能的描述方式。

  • So, first of all the way to think of animal Frances, we're looking at a goal to really sort of deliver digital property rights.

    是以,首先是思考動物弗蘭西斯的方式,我們正在尋找一個目標,以真正實現數字產權的排序。

  • That is our, that is our north star, that is our big mission to deliver digital property rights.

    這是我們的,這是我們的北極星,這是我們提供數字產權的大使命。

  • And so we very early recognized that there is no way that we could do this ourselves.

    是以,我們很早就認識到,我們自己不可能做到這一點。

  • And in fact it would be a little bit of a sort of hypocritical if we wanted to deliver to digital properly.

    而事實上,如果我們想正確地交付給數字,這將是一種有點虛偽的行為。

  • That's all, just all by ourselves.

    就這樣,就只有我們自己了。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • So that's one of the reasons we decided to make investments in the space.

    是以,這就是我們決定在該領域進行投資的原因之一。

  • And frankly we can't do it ourselves anyway.

    坦率地說,反正我們自己也做不到。

  • And that is how we got early into open sea and Sky Mavis and Dapper Labs and wax the central and you know, and of course the sandbox, which is part of an american brands and a whole host of other companies that we got involved.

    這就是我們如何早期進入開放的海洋和Sky Mavis以及Dapper Labs和wax the central,你知道,當然還有沙盒,這是一個美國品牌的一部分,還有一大批我們參與的其他公司。

  • We've done over 100 investments And we've done, you know, over 12 acquisitions, actually more, probably at this point, you know, and we continue to want to do this.

    我們已經做了超過100項投資,我們已經做了,你知道,超過12項收購,實際上更多,可能在這一點上,你知道,我們繼續想做這個。

  • And just to be clear, we don't have an ambition to be controlling any one of these sandbox runs very independently.

    我想說的是,我們沒有雄心壯志要非常獨立地控制這些沙盒運行中的任何一個。

  • And while we are still majority owners, you know, we fully expect that in the future sandbox will be completely decentralized and will be owned by its users because we really believe that the only way any, any unit, any society can actually survive, you know, for a long run, if not forever, is if there is a majority interest in its success, and that means that the players themselves have to own it, right?

    雖然我們仍然是多數所有者,但你知道,我們完全期望未來的沙盒將完全去中心化,並由其用戶擁有,因為我們真的相信,任何,任何組織、部門,任何社會能夠真正生存,你知道,長期,甚至永遠,是如果有一個大多數的利益在其成功,這意味著玩家自己必須擁有它,對嗎?

  • And that is how we construct everything.

    而這就是我們構建一切的方式。

  • So from that perspective, it's almost like if we're, you know, building up the next new york of the next Chicago or the next Hong kong And our ultimate outcome will be, will own maybe 10 or 20% of the real estate and you know, owns some businesses in there, we think that's a great outcome and we will do this across multiple places around the world.

    是以,從這個角度來看,這幾乎就像我們,你知道,建立下一個紐約,下一個芝加哥或下一個香港,而我們的最終結果將是,將擁有也許10或20%的房地產,你知道,在那裡擁有一些企業,我們認為這是一個偉大的結果,我們將在全球多個地方這樣做。

  • We don't want to run them, we don't want to control them because if we do, we actually become what we actually don't want to be in the first place, right?

    我們不想管理它們,我們不想控制它們,因為如果我們這樣做,我們實際上成為我們實際上首先不想成為的東西,對嗎?

  • Um and I think this is the reason also why we can make all these investments, because if we have such a big sort of uh sort of involvement in everything that is open, it actually means that whatever we're building ourselves, whether it's tools services or other meta verses, we have to continue building and open because it's not just something that we philosophically believe, it's also in our economic interest to do so, right.

    嗯,我想這也是我們能夠進行所有這些投資的原因,因為如果我們有這麼大的一種呃參與所有開放的東西,它實際上意味著無論我們自己建立什麼,無論是工具服務還是其他元對,我們都必須繼續建立和開放,因為這不僅僅是我們哲學上相信的東西,它也是我們的經濟利益所在,對吧。

  • Um and that's that's that's the construction of it, you know, ideally have investing and sort of having sort of, you know, a steak and everything that is in the open metaverse ideally.

    嗯,這就是那就是它的構造,你知道,最好是有投資和排序有排序,你知道,牛排和一切都在開放的元空間的理想狀態。

  • And the other half constructing and building things that the open mirrors might need.

    而另一半則是構建和建造開放鏡面可能需要的東西。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • And the approach that we've taken is that, you know, we are often, you see us buying game companies that have audiences and users, but you know, aren't yet on block train.

    我們採取的方法是,你知道,我們經常,你看到我們購買有觀眾和用戶的遊戲公司,但你知道,還沒有上街區火車。

  • And so what we do is we acquire these game companies that already have users and then bring them on board them with the concept of real ownership in the digital context and basically supercharged economies and that has worked very well for us.

    是以,我們所做的是,我們收購這些已經擁有用戶的遊戲公司,然後將他們帶入數字背景下的真正所有權概念,基本上是超強的經濟,這對我們來說效果很好。

  • And of course there's no other companies out there essentially emulating their model, which is fine because if we have a shared network effect across Web three, then there's more people enter the space.

    當然也沒有其他公司在本質上模仿他們的模式,這很好,因為如果我們有一個跨越網絡三的共享網絡效應,那麼就會有更多人進入這個空間。

  • Actually the rest of the ecosystem grows means that even the other half of our portfolios will also all rise as a result of that, which is basically what we're experiencing uh in the moment.

    實際上生態系統的其他部分增長意味著,甚至我們投資組合的另一半也都會是以而上升,這基本上就是我們目前正在經歷的情況呵。

  • And so most recently, you know, one of the other things, we've done both with our own fund rates, like bringing a strategic people like Sequoia or U B Soft or you know, LCD Kingsley, all those guys and all the sandbox who just recently brought in soft back and again, you know, softbank is amazing and legendary investor, you know, of, of, you know, really, if you think about this is the birth of the internet actually, it's one of the most important players and to us that was really important to bring them in as well because they invested in the open metaverse with sandbox, which means now they have a stake in helping the open metaverse succeed rather than going for, you know, another robots for instance, which is, you know, fun and everything, but doesn't care about constructing open and wants to build world gardens and so that's part of our mission as well, you know, we're bringing in investors and partners and everything because the capital money itself is no longer really that scarce as you well know.

    所以最近,你知道,其他事情之一,我們已經做了與我們自己的基金率,像把一個戰略的人,如紅杉或U B軟或你知道,LCD金斯利,所有這些傢伙和所有的沙盒誰最近帶來的軟回來,再次,你知道。軟銀是了不起的傳奇投資者,你知道的,你知道的,真的,如果你考慮到這是互聯網的誕生,實際上,它是最重要的參與者之一,對我們來說,把他們帶進來真的很重要,因為他們與沙盒一起投資於開放的元氣。這意味著現在他們有興趣幫助開放的元空間取得成功,而不是去找,你知道,比如說另一個機器人,它是,你知道,有趣和一切,但不關心構建開放,想建立世界花

  • However, the money that is special is the one that has influenced Softbank is an example of an influence.

    然而,特別的是,影響軟銀的錢是一個影響的例子。

  • Once they are sort of tasting the potential of the Open University, Open Work Work three, hopefully they will continue to invest only in which three things and that sort of power that comes in actually becomes the influencing factor that we want to see happen.

    一旦他們嚐到了開放大學、開放工作三者的潛力,希望他們將繼續只投資於這三件事,而那種進來的力量實際上成為我們希望看到的影響因素。

  • That is how we combat the likes of a facebook or maybe even a Microsoft that wants to control that space, whatever.

    這就是我們如何打擊像臉譜網,甚至可能是微軟這樣想控制這個空間的人。

  • Well intentioned they might be because once they actually have the power because they have the majority of that network effect, unfortunately bad things will happen because you know, absolute power tends to corrupt and that's the problem we see historically and in fact it's been it's been playing out right in our eyes right now in sort of, you know, what's happening inside facebook, Right.

    他們的意圖可能是好的,因為一旦他們真正擁有權力,因為他們擁有大部分的網絡效應,不幸的是,壞事會發生,因為你知道,絕對的權力往往會腐敗,這就是我們在歷史上看到的問題,事實上,它一直在我們眼前上演,現在在某種程度上,你知道,Facebook內部正在發生的事情,對。

  • Do you see just obvious parallels between this in crypto assets like Bitcoin and ethereum and the banking world and the government where we see, you know, a lot of pension funds and banks now investing and talking about this and countries adopting it, whereas you still have central banks and fiat currencies that are probably going to still hold on to their control mechanism.

    你是否看到在比特幣和以太坊等加密資產與銀行界和政府之間有明顯的相似之處,我們看到,你知道,很多養老基金和銀行現在都在投資和談論這個,國家也在採用它,而你仍然有中央銀行和法定貨幣,可能仍然要堅持他們的控制機制。

  • I mean you're doing something quite a parallel here with gaming and three.

    我的意思是,你在這裡做了一些相當平行的遊戲和三。

  • Well, first of all, I think, you know, people used to think that the internet is an original internet where one was kind of a parallel universe, right?

    嗯,首先,我認為,你知道,人們曾經認為,互聯網是一個原始的互聯網,其中一個是一種平行宇宙,對嗎?

  • Um that somehow didn't touch the physical world.

    嗯,不知為何沒有觸及物理世界。

  • Clearly that wasn't true, right?

    顯然這不是真的,對嗎?

  • And I think Web three is exactly the same.

    而我認為網絡三號是完全一樣的。

  • The reason why it feels like a parallel universe for people who are not in Web three is because they're not there.

    之所以對不在網三的人來說感覺是一個平行宇宙,是因為他們不在那裡。

  • They don't experience it.

    他們沒有經歷過。

  • I remember back in the day as well when smartphone came about And we, you know, we were telling our sort of game studios at the time we got to move on the smartphone, this was in 2010, right.

    我還記得當年智能手機出現的時候,我們,你知道,我們當時告訴我們的那種遊戲工作室,我們要在智能手機上有所作為,這是在2010年,對吧。

  • You know, we came up with the first big mobile game really at the end of 2010 and in 2011 it sort of took off, right.

    你知道,我們在2010年底提出了第一個大型手機遊戲,在2011年,它有點起飛了,對吧。

  • Um and many of the console game developer guys were just like, I'm not touching mobile games, that stuff is trashed.

    嗯,許多主機遊戲開發者就像,我不碰手機遊戲,那東西被毀了。

  • Why would I ever Demean myself in making product for something like this?

    我為什麼要為這樣的事情貶低自己做產品?

  • And that's because they never used the mobile phone, They didn't use a smartphone, they were using Blackberries using different devices.

    而這是因為他們從來沒有使用過手機,他們沒有使用智能手機,他們使用黑莓手機使用不同的設備。

  • So their frame of mind was just completely unable to understand it because they weren't in it.

    所以他們的心態就是完全無法理解,因為他們不在其中。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • And that's that's the same is true for for what's happening with Web three, The people who are in Web three, they just can't talk enough about it.

    對於正在發生的 "網絡三號",情況也是如此。參加 "網絡三號 "的人,他們對它的談論是不夠的。

  • They will never go back to the old one, right?

    他們永遠不會再回到原來的那個地方,對嗎?

  • Once you're in there, like, you know, once you've taken that red pill, just like way down that rabbit hole, you just don't want to get back out anymore.

    一旦你在那裡,就像,你知道,一旦你吃了那顆紅色藥丸,就像在那個兔子洞裡的樣子,你就不想再出來了。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • But how do you explain that to someone who's not even there?

    但你如何向一個根本不在那裡的人解釋呢?

  • Right.

    對。

  • That's that's the hard part.

    這是最難的部分。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • And so so there is of course the fear of the unknown.

    是以,當然也有對未知的恐懼。

  • But there's also the other thing which is, you know, like the incumbent issue for companies, people themselves have incumbent nature's too, I'm a successful finance person in a way that I understand, I can sort of do sort of intrinsic analysis of fundamental value, right?

    但還有另一件事,就是,你知道,像公司的在位問題,人們自己也有在位性質的,我是一個成功的財務人員,在某種程度上,我明白,我可以做一些基本價值的內在分析,對嗎?

  • You know, all these things that they've known, which has served them so well in the past.

    你知道,所有這些他們已經知道的事情,這在過去對他們很有幫助。

  • The problem is that that model doesn't serve this young generation at all because the opportunities that they had are all gone anyway, right?

    問題是,這種模式根本不適合這一代年輕人,因為他們曾經的機會反正都沒有了,對嗎?

  • You know, they already have real estate, they already own a stake in the physical world, right?

    你知道,他們已經有了房地產,他們已經在物理世界中擁有股份,對嗎?

  • And the young people that are just emerging in this world who just went through four years of college and are in debt, they're looking at this and saying what's there for me, right?

    而那些剛剛在這個世界上嶄露頭角的年輕人,他們剛剛經歷了四年的大學生活,並且負債累累,他們看著這個,說我有什麼好處,對嗎?

  • And so, you know, normally in history this is the beginning of revolution and the revolution in those areas tend to be quite bloody when you look at the historical context, which is not great, but with the metaverse there's actually this new development because of the way the world is developed where actually people who are digital natives and comfortable that's their opportunity, it's like this age of exploration where they can go out and discover new lands and they don't have to go to space to do it.

    所以,你知道,通常在歷史上這是革命的開始,當你看歷史背景時,這些領域的革命往往是相當血腥的,這不是很好,但在元空間,實際上有這種新的發展,因為世界的發展方式,實際上人們是數字原生的,舒適的,這是他們的機會,這就像這個探索的時代,他們可以走出去,發現新的土地,他們不必去太空做它。

  • They can do it right here at home in the virtual plane and that's actually what's so powerful and different here.

    他們可以在家裡的虛擬飛機上進行,這實際上是這裡的強大和不同之處。

  • And as we have seen so many times in history, you know, you know, young people do create a revolution, but this one doesn't have to be bloody, this one just moves people over because they're going to create all this wealth and all this new opportunities in the metaverse and then populating this at rapid hyperspeed eventually to the point where, you know, people who are sort of, you know, not from that are going to come to recognize it and say, you know, maybe we need to take a look at this more seriously, but I don't think it comes at the expense of them, so I don't think it's zero sum, that's the thing, You can be very successful in the metaverse and it's not going to take away the benefits of someone who is not in the metaverse, who has already made it as it were and owns this land and lives there quite nicely because he owns his property already, he's fine, he doesn't need to he doesn't he may not even need that, and that's perfectly okay.

    正如我們在歷史上看到的那樣,你知道,你知道,年輕人確實創造了一場革命,但這一次不必是血腥的,這一次只是把人們移過來,因為他們將在元宇宙中創造所有這些財富和所有這些新的機會,然後以快速的超速填充這一點,最終,你知道,那些有點,你知道,不是這樣的人將會來認識它,說,你知道。也許我們需要更認真地看待這個問題,但我不認為這是以犧牲他們的利益為代價的,所以我不認為這是零和,這就是問題所在,你可以在元宇宙中非常成功,但這不會奪走不在元宇宙中的人的利益。他已經成功了,擁有了這片土地,並且在那裡生活得很好,因為他已經擁有

you just announced a raise for sandbox and I know you're doing things with Snoop Dogg in there as well and you guys seem to almost kind of license or pull brands into the gaming universe and allow them to kind of thrive on their own.

你們剛剛宣佈為沙盒加薪,我知道你們也在和Snoop Dogg一起做事情,你們似乎幾乎是在授權或將品牌拉入遊戲領域,讓它們自己茁壯成長。

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