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  • I want to get your thoughts on defi.

    我想了解你對defi的看法。

  • Yeah because I've never seen anyone in gaming put it together like like you did you know you I believe said that the evolution of defi was a supercharger for Blockchain gaming and I thought that was such a powerful statement.

    是的,因為我從未見過遊戲界有人像你那樣把它放在一起,你知道你我相信說defi的演變是區塊鏈遊戲的增壓器,我認為這是一個強大的聲明。

  • One of the reasons I want to get you on here today.

    我今天想讓你來這裡的原因之一。

  • What did you mean by that?

    你這樣說是什麼意思?

  • Because I've never heard gaming people really give pay homage to say the defi summer of 2020 and all the innovation that came from a like a borrowing and lending perspective and attribute that to some of the success in gaming and future N.

    因為我從來沒有聽說過遊戲界的人真正向2020年的夏天表示敬意,以及所有來自像借貸角度的創新,並將其歸結為遊戲和未來N的一些成功。

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  • Yeah so when you think about the classical banking infrastructure out there what did banking really due to the physical world?

    是的,所以當你考慮到經典的銀行業基礎設施時,銀行業到底對物理世界有什麼作用?

  • It essentially supercharged economies because of trade facilitation lending and these things that all these things were necessary in order to have global trade and have the ability for people to do merchant transactions.

    由於貿易便利化貸款和這些東西,所有這些東西對於全球貿易和人們進行商業交易的能力都是必要的,所以它本質上使經濟超常發展。

  • Right.

    對。

  • Banks became basically became these facilitators of trust and liquidity that enabled for classic merchant services and labor and labor activities to actually flourish.

    銀行基本上成了信任和流動性的促進者,使傳統的商業服務和勞動和勞動活動能夠真正繁榮起來。

  • Right so that's what defi is.

    對,所以這就是defi是什麼。

  • What's interesting though about defi and the whole token economy of Blockchain is that normally in the traditional context you know merchant services came about first I mean if you think about the invention of the banks by the media cheese the whole double entry system was really the beginning of how do we actually verify a transaction between two parties?

    關於defi和區塊鏈的整個代幣經濟,有趣的是,通常在傳統背景下,你知道商家服務首先出現,我的意思是,如果你想想媒體奶酪發明的銀行,整個雙錄系統是真正的開始,我們如何真正驗證雙方之間的交易?

  • Oh the double entry you know that sort of sort of debit and credit.

    哦,複式記賬法,你知道那種借方和貸方的排序。

  • Okay I mean as and you still use that system today?

    好吧,我的意思是,你今天仍然使用那個系統?

  • Which is crazy but anyway here we go.

    這很瘋狂,但無論如何,我們開始吧。

  • Um you know they designed that system to facilitate trade across europe and create a banking infrastructure to do that.

    嗯,你知道他們設計這個系統是為了促進整個歐洲的貿易,並創造一個銀行基礎設施來做到這一點。

  • Right.

    對。

  • And that was really the innovation that the medici is put forward with crypto.

    而這確實是Medici提出的加密貨幣的創新之處。

  • It happened the other way around because of the Tobin infrastructure because of Bitcoin coming first there was a financial construct that essentially created a bank that essentially had incredible liquidity where people were just going in really from a belief system but not a real utility and then with you know defy you were able to tap into the liquidity generally for inflationary tokens right?

    因為託賓基礎設施,所以發生了相反的情況,因為比特幣的出現,首先有一個金融結構,基本上創造了一個銀行,基本上有令人難以置信的流動性,人們只是從一個信仰系統進入,但不是一個真正的效用,然後與你知道defy你能夠利用流動性一般為通貨膨脹的代幣,對嗎?

  • And just sort of you know fun value and maybe mean value but not actually any intrinsic value in and of itself that was sort of based on labor or or some some service and that infrastructure was going into billions of dollars of size and then you know when when when Blockchain games which were already developing years before.

    而只是一種你知道的有趣的價值,也許意味著價值,但實際上沒有任何內在的價值,本身就是一種基於勞動或或一些一些服務,這種基礎設施正在進入數十億美元的規模,然後你知道噹噹區塊鏈遊戲已經在幾年前發展。

  • I mean you know that wasn't something that sort of just suddenly emerged.

    我的意思是,你知道這並不是那種突然出現的東西。

  • It was developing really then the ability to actually tap into that liquidity and provide a sort of decentralized financing service to the players that is what supercharge the economy because now you had a banking layer that was already ready but it was waiting to provide service to something that was actually meaningful and if I came in and said we can be that meaningful.

    它正在開發真正的能力,然後實際利用這些流動性,併為玩家提供一種分散的融資服務,這才是對經濟的超級推動,因為現在你有一個已經準備好的銀行層,但它正在等待為一些真正有意義的東西提供服務,如果我進來並說我們可以成為有意義的。

  • You know when actually basically issued, you know what was the slp token?

    你知道當實際上基本上發出,你知道什麼是slp令牌?

  • It was really only meant to be uh sort of a currency you know to be used in breeding but essentially as a mechanism ultimately to earn value from that you know they opened liquidity pool and people started just trading into that liquidity for this defi right there.

    它實際上只是作為一種貨幣,你知道是用來繁殖的,但本質上是一種機制,最終是為了賺取價值,你知道他們開放了流動性池,人們開始只是為了這個defi在那裡交易到流動性。

  • If that didn't exist then there wouldn't have been a mechanism for players to cash out or for players to exchange value between between that.

    如果這一點不存在,那麼就不會有球員兌現或球員之間交換價值的機制。

  • So the liquidity pool was actually you know not a new concept in and of itself but actually really supercharged the potential for the earliest version of actual infinity to grow.

    所以流動資金池實際上你知道本身並不是一個新的概念,但實際上真正增強了實際無限的最早版本的增長潛力。

  • And of course that was something that didn't exist before because you had centralized exchanges who would want to list you and you know they charge big fees and you know all that kind of stuff.

    當然,這在以前是不存在的,因為你有集中的交易所,他們想讓你上市,你知道他們收取大筆費用,你知道所有這些東西。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • But you were still under the control of what that particular exchange wanted.

    但你仍然受到那個特定交易所想要的東西的控制。

  • And the other problem was that maybe it would have happened if exchanges back in the day understood gaming and said hey you know what we think we should be back in gaming projects, let's do that.

    而另一個問題是,如果當年的交易所瞭解遊戲並說,嘿,你知道我們認為我們應該回到遊戲項目中,讓我們這樣做,也許它就會發生。

  • But they didn't because at heart they were traders so they were all thinking finance right?

    但他們沒有這樣做,因為在內心深處他們是商人,所以他們都在思考金融問題,對嗎?

  • I mean trying to push N.

    我的意思是試圖推動N。

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  • Gaming and if he is generally in 2019 And even early 2020 was really hard because the majority because the nonfiction world was like, what the hell are you talking about?

    遊戲和如果他一般在2019年甚至2020年初真的很難,因為大多數人因為非小說世界就像,你到底在說什麼?

  • And for the people who were in crypto they're like I'm not going to want a non fungible version of a token.

    而對於那些從事加密貨幣的人來說,他們就像我不會想要一個不可替代的代幣版本。

  • I can't trade that.

    我不能拿這個做交易。

  • Right?

    對嗎?

  • That's that hasn't, you know, everything was about liquidity, liquidity liquidity, right?

    那就是還沒有,你知道,所有的東西都是關於流動性的,流動性的流動性,對嗎?

  • So so therefore putting liquid having this liquidity system put in place because all they could do was talk about that Was the perfect thing for gaming to say great.

    是以,所以把流動性有這個流動性系統放在那裡,因為他們所能做的是談論,是博彩說偉大的完美事情。

  • Now you built this liquidity, let me tap into that.

    現在你建立了這個流動資金,讓我利用它。

  • And basically game five was born, wow, it's fascinating.

    基本上第五場比賽就誕生了,哇,這很吸引人。

  • I had standing Khrushchev in here about a month ago um actually in person because he's in London and he runs a obviously about 23 billion locked up.

    大約一個月前,我讓赫魯曉夫來這裡,嗯,實際上是親自來的,因為他在倫敦,他經營著一個明顯的約230億的鎖定。

  • Um He's got 2000 N.

    嗯,他有2000N。

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  • S on his phone and he said, you know, the next step is to fund N.

    S在他的手機上說,你知道,下一步是資助N。

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  • So again, it's one thing to have an amazing pool of fungible tokens but to get these N.

    是以,再次強調,擁有一個驚人的可替代代幣池是一回事,但要獲得這些N。

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  • And a funding scenario, It opens up so much.

    還有一個籌資方案,它打開了這麼多。

  • And again, I used to work in finance for 15 years.

    再說一遍,我曾經在金融領域工作了15年。

  • I started on Wall Street.

    我是在華爾街開始的。

  • I worked in Chicago.

    我在芝加哥工作。

  • I worked in the city of London for nine years and credit derivatives and I tried to explain to my students inside our defi academy that this unlocking these basic lending and borrowing building blocks.

    我在倫敦市工作了九年,信用衍生品,我試圖在我們的defi學院裡面向我的學生解釋,這解開了這些基本的貸款和借款的構件。

  • It just opens entire economies up.

    它只是打開了整個經濟。

  • And I used to trade fixed floating swaps in new york city where he was off balance sheet instruments where you can manage interest rate risk.

    我曾經在紐約市交易固定浮動掉期,他是資產負債表外的工具,你可以管理利率風險。

  • The fact that those were liquid meant that you could ask for student loans to people.

    這些都是流動的,這意味著你可以向人們要求提供學生貸款。

  • Corporate finance has just opened up this whole world.

    公司金融剛剛打開了這整個世界。

  • And even though you can't necessarily see it, it's it's what has given this market a lot of liquidity and depth.

    儘管你不一定能看到它,但正是它給了這個市場大量的流動性和深度。

  • And again, even if you look at something like a stable coin, a lot of my students uh you know, bought some stable coins and said brian, why aren't these going up?

    再說一遍,即使你看一下像穩定幣這樣的東西,我的很多學生呃,你知道,買了一些穩定幣,說Brian,為什麼這些東西不漲?

  • And I said, well that's, they're designed not to go up, but they're also one of the basic building blocks of everything behind the scenes that gives all the liquidity that you enjoy.

    我說,那是,它們被設計成不會上升,但它們也是幕後一切的基本組成部分之一,提供了你所享受的所有流動性。

  • As you said, like an actual infinity player when you can sell your S.

    正如你所說,當你可以賣掉你的S時,就像一個真正的無限播放器。

  • LPS, you know, within a few cents a bit off for spread.

    LPS,你知道的,在幾分錢的範圍內,有點偏離傳播。

  • You know, back when I worked in Chicago, there was a pit of 300 X american football players yelling and screaming in the Chicago board of Trade at the Futures exchange and they all own memberships that cost a million dollars a year.

    你知道,早在我在芝加哥工作的時候,在芝加哥貿易委員會的期貨交易所裡,有一個由300名X美式足球運動員組成的坑在大喊大叫,他們都擁有一年要花一百萬美元的會員資格。

  • And they were in there yelling because they were providing liquidity, that was the liquidity pool back in the day and they also had access to information etcetera.

    他們在那裡大喊大叫,因為他們提供流動性,那是當年的流動性池子,他們也可以獲得資訊等等。

  • But when I saw what defi was doing.

    但當我看到defi在做什麼的時候。

  • uh and I saw that now they were finding a way to give tokens to liquidity providers and do all of this innovation.

    呃,我看到現在他們正在尋找一種方法,把代幣給流動性提供者,做所有這些創新。

  • I'm telling you when I saw this six months ago, I was just all in.

    我告訴你,當我六個月前看到這個時,我只是全身心投入。

  • I was like I can't believe the innovation, I can't believe the value locked.

    我當時覺得我無法相信這種創新,我無法相信這種價值的鎖定。

  • I mean when I was working on Wall Street, no one ever called me up and said guess what if you use my brokerage service, not only will you get equity, I will give you a great service, will give you equity in the company that you can use those tokens for the future and everything is transparent on the Blockchain.

    我的意思是,當我在華爾街工作時,從來沒有人給我打電話說,猜猜看,如果你使用我的經紀服務,你不僅會得到股權,我會給你一個很好的服務,會給你公司的股權,你可以在未來使用這些代幣,而且一切都在區塊鏈上透明。

  • I mean it blows my mind and so it's great to see someone that's not just straight in the defi space, seeing what defi does for the rest of the space.

    我的意思是,這讓我大吃一驚,所以很高興看到有人不只是直接在defi空間,看到defi對其他空間的作用。

  • And again, when we get the financing of some of these N.

    再說,當我們得到其中一些N的融資。

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  • S as well as the fungible tokens, I mean, it really starts to get interesting, doesn't it?

    S以及可替換的代幣,我的意思是,它真的開始變得有趣了,不是嗎?

  • No, totally.

    不,完全不是。

  • I mean, you know, at the end of the day, even, you know, today what powers economy is at the end of the day is the liquidity of the markets, right?

    我的意思是,你知道,在一天結束時,甚至,你知道,今天什麼權力經濟是在一天結束時是市場的流動性,對嗎?

  • You know, and maybe only a small part of the world, you know, really sort of interacts with it because we just take it for granted, you know, we don't have to understand how the banking infrastructure works and so on.

    你知道,也許世界上只有一小部分人,你知道,真正有點互動,因為我們只是認為這是理所當然的,你知道,我們不需要了解銀行基礎設施如何運作等等。

  • But the liquidity that's provided essentially greases the system such that it can actually move fast and effortlessly through because without it you then have these sort of, you know, sort of friction points in where you can actually transact this stuff.

    但是,提供的流動資金基本上是給這個系統打油,使它實際上可以快速和毫不費力地通過,因為如果沒有它,你就會有這些,你知道,在你可以實際交易這些東西的摩擦點。

  • The other thing, of course, that's really powerful here also is that because defi is open, you can build new innovative constructs on top of this.

    當然,另一件真正強大的事情是,由於defi是開放的,你可以在此基礎上建立新的創新結構。

  • We're basically, you know, people didn't think about lending FTS before, but now there was liquidity and now that's possible and you have platforms like N.

    我們基本上,你知道,人們以前沒有想過借出FTS,但現在有了流動性,現在這是有可能的,你有像N的平臺。

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  • That emerged that actually allow you to the lending your fractionalization of N.

    這就出現了,實際上允許你借出你的N個分數。

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  • S as well where you can take these assets and do stuff around that as well.

    S也是如此,你可以利用這些資產,也可以圍繞這個做文章。

  • So, you've got, you know, new platforms that are emerging completely outside of, you know, the original idea of what these N.

    是以,你已經有了,你知道,新的平臺正在出現,完全超出了,你知道,這些N的原始想法。

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  • Were designed for innovating on top of that and essentially combining defy and N.

    是為在此基礎上進行創新而設計的,基本上是將蔑視和N相結合。

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  • S or N.

    S或N。

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  • Gaming everything else together because they're all openly compose able in the first place and that's just, you know, that's that's really, really, really, really powerful.

    把其他的東西都放在一起賭博,因為他們首先都是公開的,這就是,你知道,這就是真的,真的,真的,真的很強大。

  • Um And and I think the other thing that we love about this is that this is a way in which we really teach financial inclusion and knowledge to the masses because when you're engaging in culture for the most part, right, you're engaging in it because you love it, But you don't understand that there's a value behind it and you know in schools they don't teach you about that stuff.

    我認為我們喜歡的另一件事是,這是一種我們真正向大眾傳授金融包容性和知識的方式,因為當你從事文化活動時,在大多數情況下,對,你從事文化活動是因為你喜歡它,但你不明白它背後有一個價值,你知道在學校他們不會教你這些東西。

  • I mean you know most most kids don't know anything about finance until they go to college and the debt, right?

    我的意思是,你知道大多數大多數孩子在上大學和債務之前對金融一無所知,對嗎?

  • Just a horrible way to experience you know, your first sort of real economics.

    只是一個可怕的體驗方式,你知道,你的第一個真正的經濟種類。

  • But in this environment actually when you recognize that actually this has value early on and there's liquidity in that market actually I think it replaces the need for a school to teach you about that because that becomes your early interaction.

    但在這種環境下,實際上當你在早期就認識到實際上這有價值,而且該市場有流動性,實際上我認為它取代了對學校教你的需求,因為這成為你早期的互動。

  • Our Children play games at a very young age anyway and they have the mental capacity to understand actually what is sort of you know economics, you know because they are trading cards or they're doing stuff already now make that real for them.

    我們的孩子在很小的時候就開始玩遊戲,他們有足夠的心理能力來理解什麼是你知道的經濟學,你知道,因為他們正在交易卡片或他們已經在做的事情,現在讓他們真實地感受到。

  • And I think that's really, really powerful.

    我認為這真的是非常非常強大。

I want to get your thoughts on defi.

我想了解你對defi的看法。

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Defi是如何為區塊鏈遊戲增色的?逸少 (HOW DEFI SUPERCHARGED BLOCKCHAIN GAMING ? Yat Siu)

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    林宜悉 發佈於 2021 年 11 月 25 日
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