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  • later.

    後來。

  • Once can we just talk about those quickly because sometimes you say, first of all with layer twos, people create a node and then they call themselves a layer two, you also have argued that sometimes layer twos are later ones in disguise.

    我們能不能快速地談一下這些,因為有時候你說,首先是第二層,人們創建了一個節點,然後他們稱自己為第二層,你也曾認為,有時候第二層是後來者的變相的。

  • Um recently we saw someone likes Alana kind of really explode and then N F T s on the back of it and they're providing a faster solution would probably be very different science than you Terra and luna there's a lot of them now that are kind of top 20 market caps and kind of hot, how do we look at those and judge them in comparison to say in a box?

    嗯,最近我們看到有人喜歡Alana那種真正的爆炸,然後N F T s在後面,他們提供了一個更快的解決方案,可能會與你Terra和Luna非常不同的科學,現在有很多人是那種前20名的市值,有點熱,我們如何看待這些,判斷他們在比較說在一個盒子?

  • So uh it's very easy to come up with solutions that are centralized.

    是以,呃......很容易提出集中的解決方案。

  • So um the science behind the centralized coin is trivial.

    是以,嗯,集中式硬幣背後的科學是微不足道的。

  • Anybody who's listening to me who's ever taken a CS course could build a centralized coin, you could run it on your laptop and you could get amazing numbers because you're running it on a single machine on your laptop.

    任何正在聽我講話的人,如果曾經上過CS課程,都可以建立一個集中的硬幣,你可以在你的筆記本電腦上運行它,你可以得到驚人的數字,因為你是在筆記本電腦的單機上運行它。

  • Now, you can go one notch above that, you could run it on a small number of machines and uh and still get pretty amazing numbers and we see that and that's that's fine.

    現在,你可以比這高一個等級,你可以在少量的機器上運行,呃,仍然可以得到相當驚人的數字,我們看到,那是那很好。

  • Um it's just to a technologist, I think anybody who understands the true technology behind these systems, they're going to see this and say look that's a cop up these things are just, they're just tradable tokens.

    嗯,這只是對一個技術專家來說,我認為任何瞭解這些系統背後的真正技術的人,他們會看到這一點,並說看這是一個副本,這些東西只是,他們只是可交易的代幣。

  • Their market cap can go up and down, there might be a lot of money to be made off of them.

    他們的市值可以上升和下降,可能有很多錢可以從他們身上賺到。

  • That's a different story, but uh but deep down they're not delivering the Blockchain vision.

    這是一個不同的故事,但呃,但在內心深處,他們沒有提供區塊鏈的願景。

  • You want a decentralized, a fully decentralized system and you also don't want a coin whose value proposition is, there's a big whale out there who's like helping us, that's called market manipulation.

    你想要一個去中心化的,完全去中心化的系統,你也不想要一個價值主張是,有一個大鯨魚在那裡像幫助我們一樣的硬幣,這叫做市場操縱。

  • And that person isn't some altruistic person if they are manipulating the market, so they're doing it for a purpose and at some point they're going to pull out and so uh so it's a, it's a very funny, funny game to play and but it is appealing to people, so we have to recognize this, you know, people want manipulated markets and people want to to hitch their horse to a to a big thing saying, oh yeah, this is, you know, so and so's cart, I want to hitch my horse to it because so and so is as a big cart or shiny card or whatever.

    如果這個人操縱市場,他就不是什麼利他主義者,所以他們是出於某種目的,在某種程度上他們會退出,所以呃,這是一個,這是一個非常有趣,有趣的遊戲,但它對人們有吸引力。所以我們必須認識到這一點,你知道,人們想要操縱市場,人們想要把他們的馬搭在一個大東西上,說,哦,是的,這是,你知道,某某的車,我想把我的馬搭在上面,因為某某是一個大車或閃亮的卡或任何東西。

  • Well, so and so built that shiny card by taking other people's horses.

    好吧,某某通過搶奪他人的馬匹建立了那張閃亮的卡片。

  • So you've got to be careful.

    所以你必須小心。

  • And so, you know, that's my sort of short take on on on some of these coins.

    所以,你知道,這就是我對這些硬幣的一些簡短看法。

  • Be careful out there.

    在外面要小心。

  • You really want a truly decentralized solution, one of the core value propositions of our community and everything I've ever done for avalanche is that we chose to build decentralized solutions controlled by people, not manipulated, whatever else centralized uh things that are that are in the hands of a small number of people.

    你真的想要一個真正的去中心化的解決方案,我們社區的核心價值主張之一,以及我為雪崩所做的一切,就是我們選擇建立由人控制的去中心化的解決方案,而不是被操縱,其他什麼中心化的呃東西,都是在少數人的手中。

  • So, so that's that's one of the differentiating features for avalanche, and if people can see that as part of the value proposition, then they know what to do.

    所以,這就是雪崩的差異化特徵之一,如果人們能夠將其視為價值主張的一部分,那麼他們就知道該怎麼做。

  • Yeah.

    是的。

later.

後來。

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