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  • how is next.

    如何是下一個。

  • So different from say a coin base or from an A.

    這與硬幣底座或A型的區別很大。

  • V.

    V.

  • Or from like a finance.

    或者從像金融。

  • Um And maybe for people watching.

    嗯,也許是為了看人。

  • So they can kind of understand that you know it's interesting because coin based brian armstrong just got back from D.

    所以他們可以理解,你知道這很有趣,因為基於硬幣的布萊恩-阿姆斯特朗剛剛從D市回來。

  • C.

    C.

  • He met with all these government entities.

    他與所有這些政府實體會面。

  • He said the sec refused to meet with him and he has some of his takes on that.

    他說祕書拒絕與他見面,他對此有一些看法。

  • But you are not trying to be any of these entities are you know we're not um first of all like those entities apart from been it's all us based and they have like 70 80 90% even of the clientele in the U.

    但你不是要成為這些實體中的任何一個,你知道我們不是,首先像那些實體一樣,除了是我們的基礎,他們在美國有70-80%的客戶。

  • S.

    S.

  • For us.

    對我們來說。

  • The U.

    幽會。

  • S.

    S.

  • Is important market and we love the U.

    是重要的市場,我們熱愛美國。

  • S.

    S.

  • And we have big plans for it.

    我們對它有很大的計劃。

  • But It is one market, we operate in 200 jurisdictions.

    但這是一個市場,我們在200個司法管轄區運作。

  • We have more diversified meaning we have some more flexibility.

    我們有更多的多樣化,意味著我們有一些更多的靈活性。

  • You know we can exit the states and we'll be fine whereas convicts cannot exit the states.

    你知道我們可以離開美國,我們會很好,而罪犯不能離開美國。

  • You know it's a listed company is the only listed company but it's trickier for them uh than it does for than it is for us.

    你知道它是一家上市公司,是唯一的上市公司,但對他們來說,比對我們來說更棘手。

  • Now those companies are apart from however they are predominantly exchanges centralized exchange and we have uh exchange service and it's been a great revenue driver understand why people want to be able to exchange is uh but our core business has always been the landing site giving you access to your liquidity that is locked up in your crypto so that when you need liquidity you don't sell your Bitcoin and if you look at the past 10 years selling your Bitcoin at just about any moment has been a terrible decision.

    現在,這些公司都是除此之外的,但是他們主要是交易所的集中式交易所,我們有呃交易所服務,它一直是一個偉大的收入驅動力,瞭解為什麼人們希望能夠交換是呃,但我們的核心業務一直是登陸網站,讓你獲得鎖定在你的加密貨幣中的流動性,這樣當你需要流動性時,你就不會賣掉你的比特幣,如果你看看過去10年,在幾乎任何時刻出售你的比特幣都是一個糟糕的決定。

  • So we actually make it easier for you to hold on to your assets borrowing at long to value ratio 50% meaning that if you deposit 100,000 Uh dollars worth of Bitcoin, we give you credit line for $50,000.

    是以,我們實際上讓你更容易持有你的資產,以50%的長比值借款,這意味著如果你存入價值100,000烏美元的比特幣,我們給你50,000美元的信用額度。

  • So it's weird de leveraging the system in a certain extent and this allows you to uh you know hold on to your assets for longer periods of time in a money management sound way.

    是以,在某種程度上,這是一個奇怪的槓桿系統,這使你能夠呃,你知道以一種資金管理的健全方式在更長的時間內持有你的資產。

  • Uh And this has been uh you know uh the first ones to offer this and then with uh you know they have pivoted because they weren't always have and they had a product somewhat similar to ours appeared here.

    呃,這一直是呃,你知道呃,第一個提供這個的,然後與呃,你知道他們有支點,因為他們並不總是有,他們有一個與我們有點類似的產品在這裡出現。

  • Yeah didn't quite take off and to stand his credit.

    是的,並沒有完全起飛,而且要站在他的立場上。

  • You know, he was very uh determined and bold to pivot so rapidly into our world as we know today, which is decentralized in the sense that you don't have this uh intermediary that you need to trust.

    你知道,他非常有決心和勇氣,如此迅速地轉入我們今天的世界,這是去中心化的,即你沒有這個你需要信任的中間人。

  • Now this you know it's everything in life has pros and cons you know uh the one side, you know a centralized entity has easier interface, it's user friendlier.

    現在,你知道生活中的一切都有優點和缺點,你知道呃,一方面,你知道一個集中的實體有更容易的界面,它的用戶更友好。

  • Uh It has the on and off ramps to fiat currencies, direct fiat currency is not a programmatic, algorithmic stable coin then you know the flip side of it, you have to trust us and we're doing a lot of things we which build a trust and you know just being around four years and nobody haven't haven't lost a single penny or a dollar help anywhere in London Penny.

    呃,它有與法幣的上下坡道,直接法幣不是一個程序化的、算法穩定的硬幣,那麼你知道它的反面,你必須信任我們,我們正在做很多事情,我們這建立了一個信任,你知道就在四年前,沒有人沒有在倫敦Penny的任何地方失去過一分錢或一美元的幫助。

  • Uh you know, it speaks volumes on itself, but you know, with harvey then you gotta have know what a madame masque is and how do you connect your leisure and the interface?

    呃,你知道,這本身就說明了問題,但你知道,有了哈維,你就得知道什麼是馬斯克夫人,你怎麼把你的休閒和界面聯繫起來?

  • It's getting better, but it's not the easiest thing in the world.

    情況正在好轉,但這並不是世界上最容易的事情。

  • And the longer the code is, the more complicated it gets.

    而且,代碼越長,就越複雜。

  • And that's why we see the defi hacks every other week, 100 something million gotten stolen.

    這就是為什麼我們每隔一週就會看到defi黑客攻擊,1億多被盜。

  • And it's not just that it's also economic exploits.

    而且,這不僅僅是說,這也是經濟上的剝削。

  • So it gets really complicated.

    所以它變得非常複雜。

  • But I like to think of the two psi phi and defies complementary to one another rather than, you know, uh competing with one another, would you call next?

    但我喜歡認為這兩個psi phi和defies是相互補充的,而不是,你知道的,呃,相互競爭的,你說下一個?

  • So a decentralized finance organization or essential right now it's a centralized one.

    是以,一個分散的財務組織或必要的現在它是一個集中的組織。

  • But we work with a lot of the defi protocols and we have in our pipeline inherently defy projects.

    但我們與很多defi協議合作,我們的管道里有固有的defi項目。

  • Uh So we are taking what can be made trust liss and transforming it that way.

    是以,我們正在採取可以讓人信任的東西,並以這種方式將其轉化。

  • It's going to take awhile.

    這將需要一段時間。

  • Not gonna lie to anyone, it's gonna take a while because we have things that are inherently uh of chain, you know pounds and the euro, the whole connection to the legacy banking system that has to simply cannot uh functional defy way.

    不打算對任何人撒謊,這將需要一段時間,因為我們有一些東西是固有的,你知道英鎊和歐元,與傳統銀行系統的整個連接,必鬚根本不能呃功能藐視的方式。

  • But there are other things you know like different stable coins and the offerings there that you can do in the lending and we're working on that and I'm very excited and you know just historically we have always worked with the protocols for instance maker dow they had this problem where Uh you know until they figured out the peg they had this, you know, people borrow at 4% and then overnight because of the pack and I couldn't keep it, it went to 24%.

    但還有其他的事情,你知道像不同的穩定幣和那裡的產品,你可以在借貸中做,我們正在努力,我非常興奮,你知道只是歷史上我們一直與協議合作,例如製造商Dow他們有這個問題,呃你知道直到他們想出掛鉤,他們有這個,你知道,人們以4%的價格借款,然後一夜之間因為包和我不能保持它,它上升到24%。

  • And you know, the whole industry was like really upset.

    你知道,整個行業都非常不高興。

  • We came in and refinanced everybody back at 8%.

    我們進來後,以8%的價格為每個人進行了再融資。

  • So we work with those guys and we are transitioning but it's going to be a transition.

    所以我們與這些人一起工作,我們正在過渡,但這將是一個過渡。

  • Yeah.

    是的。

  • Look I believe there is definite benefit in both.

    聽著,我相信兩者都有一定的好處。

  • You know, there's benefit in more centralized network and a more decentralized network even though in the space maybe like Bitcoin maximalist and defy people, people can get into camps right?

    你知道,更集中的網絡和更分散的網絡是有好處的,即使在空間上,也許像比特幣最大的人和藐視者,人們可以進入陣營,對嗎?

  • And they can say one is bad and the other is good and I don't think that's true.

    他們可以說一個是壞的,另一個是好的,我不認為那是真的。

  • You know, I've had an interesting reaction when I take uh like one of my students and put them through the centralized exchange experience.

    你知道,當我把呃像我的一個學生,讓他們經歷集中交流的經歷時,我有一個有趣的反應。

  • So say they go on to coin base and they try to buy some crypto and they got 1200 people that work for that organization.

    所以說,他們去硬幣基地,試圖購買一些加密貨幣,他們有1200人在該組織工作。

  • Great customer service.

    偉大的客戶服務。

  • And then the next week I forced them to go on, you know, swamp and do an exchange and they're like, whoa, this is a different animal.

    然後第二週,我強迫他們去,你知道,沼澤,做一個交換,他們就像,哇,這是一個不同的動物。

  • And I don't know how to connect my wallet and blah blah blah.

    而且我不知道如何連接我的錢包,等等等等。

  • And it's again from a user experience perspective, it's not for everybody, right?

    而這又是從用戶體驗的角度來看,它並不適合所有人,對嗎?

  • It's not even 67 people amongst which I would count myself.

    這甚至不是67人,我自己也算在其中。

  • And you, you know, sometimes it's just simply doesn't work and you can figure out you get an error, I don't know, 117.

    而你,你知道,有時它只是簡單地不工作,你可以想出你得到一個錯誤,我不知道,117。

  • And you gotta google what it means.

    而且你得谷歌一下這意味著什麼。

  • And google doesn't give you any results.

    而谷歌並沒有給你任何結果。

  • You gotta dig into the forums and sub credits and you know, ask the community, wait for response.

    你必須深入到論壇和次級信貸,你知道的,詢問社區,等待迴應。

  • Everything has its pros and cons, right?

    任何事物都有其優點和缺點,對嗎?

  • So you want to be able to just handle that.

    所以你希望能夠處理好這個問題。

  • So someone who doesn't want to go down that rabbit hole or doesn't understand it, they can just come to next.

    是以,有人不想進入那個兔子洞,或者不瞭解它,他們可以直接來找下一個。

  • So they do some K.

    所以他們做了一些K。

  • Y.

    Y.

  • C.

    C.

  • But once they're in they can have the crypto lending interest earned exchange and you kind of have that service for them.

    但是,一旦他們加入,他們就可以擁有加密貨幣借貸利息賺取的交換,你算是為他們提供了這種服務。

  • And then they don't have to have I met a mass quality.

    然後他們不必有我遇到了一個大規模的品質。

  • Absolutely.

    絕對的。

  • And as long as we know who you are from a blacklisted country terrorists or dealing with dark markets, we can service you as long as you have the collateral, this was the founding principle.

    只要我們知道你是來自被列入黑名單的國家的恐怖分子或與黑市交易的人,只要你有抵押品,我們就能為你提供服務,這是創始原則。

  • We wanted to be as inclusive as possible because if we were doing credit checks, we have been very limited to the Western hemisphere, you know, where you have good credit score in the United States, europe United Kingdom and that's about it.

    我們希望儘可能地包容,因為如果我們做信用檢查,我們一直非常侷限於西半球,你知道,你在美國、歐洲、英國有良好的信用評分,就這些。

  • You know you can't service a client in Nigeria and we did did want to give them access because there are a lot of Bitcoin is there.

    你知道你不能為尼日利亞的客戶提供服務,我們確實想讓他們進入,因為那裡有很多比特幣。

  • You know everywhere.

    你到處都知道。

  • We want to give them the same assets and tools that we Western us have and it's very easy to have a Western perspective and centralized view on, you know, why do I need that?

    我們想給他們提供與我們西方人所擁有的相同的資產和工具,而且很容易有一個西方的觀點和集中的觀點,你知道,為什麼我需要這個?

  • I have my bank of America and you know, hsbc or whatever but there's close to four people, four billion people that are under bank.

    我有我的美國銀行,你知道,HSBC或其他什麼,但有接近4個人,40億人在銀行下面。

  • So we wanted to be you know as inclusive them as possible as well.

    所以我們想盡可能地包容他們。

  • And are your customers, were they based europe Asia?

    你的客戶是在歐洲和亞洲的嗎?

  • Absolutely everywhere.

    絕對是無處不在。

  • Just like Bitcoin is everywhere.

    就像比特幣無處不在。

  • And so our customers we are servicing 200 jurisdiction as you said in your very kind intro uh and but we have people from everywhere.

    是以,我們的客戶,我們正在為200個司法管轄區提供服務,正如你在你非常友好的介紹中所說的那樣,呃,但我們有來自各地的人。

  • Southeast Asia is a big market europe as being from europe the States more what what recent action we're gonna see how that plays out.

    東南亞是一個很大的市場,因為來自歐洲的美國更多的是什麼最近的行動,我們將看到如何發揮出來。

  • We might have to cut back a little bit on the state's policy.

    我們可能要對國家的政策進行一些削減。

  • Uh So but everywhere and it's very because like just from a pure number of clients it's one picture but then you have Wales in the Philippines and I don't know in uh South Korea and then it totally transforms the pictures one just once you do weighted assessment of where your clientele basis.

    所以,但在任何地方,這都是非常的,因為就是從純粹的客戶數量來看,這是一張照片,但你在菲律賓有威爾士,我不知道在呃韓國,然後它完全改變了照片,一旦你對你的客戶基礎做了加權評估。

  • And the truth is we have clients from everywhere.

    而事實是,我們有來自各地的客戶。

  • And it's amazing, you know, it's also very satisfying when you go on twitter and you see, I don't know a guy who is flipping burgers in a fast food chain and they started investing a little bit in crypto and they never saw it because they were borrowing with our products.

    而且這很神奇,你知道,當你在twitter上看到,我不認識一個在快餐連鎖店炒漢堡的人,他們開始投資一點加密貨幣,而他們從來沒有看到,因為他們是用我們的產品借來的,這也是非常令人滿意。

  • And four years later this guy, you know, has this new Tesla and and and and and the license plate says next, so because he's so happy that you know, we were around to just offer him the possibility of accomplishing that, which he never thought were possible.

    四年後,這個人,你知道,有了這個新的特斯拉,而且車牌上寫著下一個,所以因為他非常高興,你知道,我們就在身邊,為他提供了實現這一目標的可能性,他從來沒有想過這是可能的。

  • It's very satisfying as well.

    這也是非常令人滿意的。

  • You know, helps us wake up in the morning and get you through the day.

    你知道,幫助我們在早晨醒來,讓你度過一天。

  • It's those kind of experiences.

    這就是那種經驗。

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