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  • now I want to ask you the hard question because ava was built on the concept of fungible tokens.

    現在我想問你一個很難回答的問題,因為阿瓦公司是建立在可替換代幣的概念上的。

  • The whole point of a means.

    手段的全部意義。

  • I can come with the Bitcoin I got from max Keiser in 2013 or the one that was just mind last year and they're all They're all fungible they all can be treated as the same one and then I can come and lend and borrow on your protocol and that's one of the reasons of is amazing.

    我可以帶著我在2013年從Max Keiser那裡得到的比特幣,或者去年剛剛得到的那個比特幣,它們都是可以替換的,它們都可以被當作同一個比特幣,然後我可以根據你的協議來借貸,這也是比特幣神奇的原因之一。

  • Now I have a non fungible token which means there's one of them by definition.

    現在我有一個不可替換的代幣,這意味著根據定義有一個。

  • Okay but I spent $1 million.

    好吧,但我花了100萬美元。

  • I bought yours for 1.3 million or 1.15 million.

    我以130萬或115萬買了你的。

  • And I want to fund it because I need to borrow some money and I don't want to sell it and I can't sell it because of liquidity.

    而我想為它提供資金,因為我需要借一些錢,我不想賣掉它,而且因為流動性,我不能賣掉它。

  • Now I go to a market that's used to having massive amounts of liquidity because of the fund ability.

    現在我去的市場,因為基金的能力,習慣於有大量的流動性。

  • Now I've got N.

    現在我已經有了N個。

  • F.

    F.

  • T.

    T.

  • S.

    S.

  • So how do you create a finance market around something that's unique.

    是以,你如何圍繞獨特的東西創造一個金融市場。

  • It's very fascinating because essentially like a non fungible token, it's just an asset that is kind of like uh I mean it's particular assets so you definitely can create a market like where that's what we're working on with how to use non fungible tokens as a collateral and it's kind of a different game because like it's more of a game where for example Christie's and Sotheby's if you want to sell some art, you go there and you ask for cash advance.

    這是非常迷人的,因為從本質上說,就像一個不可替代的代幣,它只是一種資產,就像呃,我的意思是它是特殊的資產,所以你絕對可以創造一個市場,就像我們正在研究如何使用不可替代的代幣作為抵押品,這是一種不同的遊戲,因為它更像是一個遊戲,例如佳士得和蘇富比,如果你想出售一些藝術品,你去那裡,你要求現金預付款。

  • Someone comes appraises the work saying that okay this particular artist has done previous works that are raised the price on this one.

    有人來評估作品說,好吧,這個特別的藝術家以前做過的作品,在這個作品上被提高了價格。

  • And during this market conditions during this year's so we assume that this value is here and this might be the price it will be auctioned.

    在今年的這個市場條件下,所以我們假設這個價值在這裡,這可能是它將被拍賣的價格。

  • And then we can give you advance of 20% 40%.

    然後我們可以給你預付20%-40%。

  • So they're usually very low loan to value ratios.

    所以它們通常是非常低的貸款與價值比率。

  • When you look at non fungible assets stocks for example or let's say cryptographic assets on on the other protocol there's loan to value ratios between uh let's say 52 75 and you can get more out of your collateral.

    當你看一下非可替換的資產,比如說股票,或者說加密資產,在另一個協議中,貸款與價值的比率在52-75之間,你可以從你的抵押品中獲得更多。

  • But because of the liquidity and the markets are traded all the time.

    但由於流動性和市場一直在進行交易。

  • So here you get like less out of the the the the system.

    所以在這裡,你從這個系統中得到的東西就更少了。

  • But that's because like there might be less activity of like buying and selling like liquidity.

    但是,這是因為可能會有較少的活動,比如買和賣,比如流動性。

  • But the end of the day it doesn't mean that you can't borrow against that asset.

    但最終並不意味著你不能以該資產為抵押借款。

  • I mean in in UK here it's very common concept of equity release.

    我的意思是在英國,股權釋放是非常普遍的概念。

  • So if you have a house you have basically value in that house.

    是以,如果你有一棟房子,你在那棟房子裡基本上有價值。

  • You can actually unlock part of the value by getting a loan against your property.

    你實際上可以通過以你的房產為抵押獲得貸款來釋放部分價值。

  • So the same way you can do with non fungible tokens.

    是以,你可以用同樣的方式來處理非可替換的代幣。

  • You can't go maybe uh up to the like one a one value like what someone will pay but part of it you can unlock and that's already like a big thing if you have crypto Punk, that's for its one million getting 2 to $300,000 from that and being able to buy something else.

    你不能去也許呃到像一個一個的價值,就像有人會支付什麼,但它的一部分你可以解鎖,這已經像一個大事情,如果你有加密朋克,這是為其一百萬得到2至30萬美元,並能夠購買其他東西。

  • That's a big thing.

    這是件大事。

  • Has anyone uh financed uh N.

    有沒有人呃資助呃N。

  • F.

    F.

  • T.

    T.

  • Have you guys yet?

    你們有嗎?

  • Or if it will probably be a crypto punk right?

    或者說,如果它可能會成為一個加密的朋克吧?

  • Because it's something that's liquid that's fairly stable right now.

    因為它是現在相當穩定的液體的東西。

  • I mean, will that be the first N.

    我的意思是,這將是第一個N。

  • F.

    F.

  • T.

    T.

  • This finance on?

    這筆資金在哪裡?

  • Yeah definitely.

    是的,當然。

  • I mean there's already kind of like uh iterations of like N.

    我的意思是,已經有一種像N的迭代。

  • F.

    F.

  • D.

    D.

  • As a collateral.

    作為抵押品。

  • We have done it previously and some hackathon.

    我們以前也做過,還有一些黑客馬拉松。

  • So it's possible, technical is possible.

    所以它是可能的,技術上是可能的。

  • And the concept is like uh like how the underwriter market will uh evolve.

    而這個概念就像呃像承銷商市場將呃演變。

  • So practically in the beginning people will have to underwrite these different kinds of N.

    是以,實際上在開始的時候,人們將不得不為這些不同種類的N個項目提供擔保。

  • F.

    F.

  • D.

    D.

  • So let's say I'm okay funding crypto punks up to this level.

    是以,讓我們說我可以為加密貨幣小混混提供資金,直到這個水準。

  • I'm not okay of funding, let's say um board apes into this particular level or at all for example.

    我不同意資助,比方說,嗯,板猿進入這個特定的水準,或者說,根本沒有。

  • And then it's interesting to see like how this underwriting market will evolve, let's say like how they will uh doesn't mind like what they will actually like fund individual underwriters, will you create liquidity pools around it?

    然後很有趣的是,像這個承銷市場將如何發展,讓我們說像他們將如何呃不介意像他們實際上像基金個人承銷商一樣,你會圍繞它創建流動性池嗎?

  • And I don't think liquidity pools even it's necessary because what we saw in open sea is that especially open c getting more bigger volumes than units.

    我不認為流動性池是必要的,因為我們在公海上看到的是,特別是公海上得到的量比組織、部門大。

  • Or for example and all this like automated market makers.

    或者,例如和所有這些像自動做市商。

  • We saw that you actually don't need to create a kind of like a pool model.

    我們看到,你實際上不需要創建一種像游泳池的模型。

  • Um Unless like you want a bit of more efficiency, but this kind of like a uh order book style of uh system will work very well.

    除非你希望有更多的效率,但這種像訂單簿式的呃系統會非常好用。

  • We're gonna have a marketplace.

    我們會有一個市場。

  • Exactly.

    正是如此。

  • And then again, you can choose the exposure, right?

    再有,你可以選擇曝光,對嗎?

  • Maybe you only need 10 people involved to get a decent bit offer exactly 80% loan to value.

    也許你只需要10個人參與,就可以得到一個像樣的位子報價,正好是80%的貸款價值。

  • A lot of people would say, hey, I'll give me half a billion on my crypto punk in financing.

    很多人會說,嘿,我會在我的加密貨幣朋克上給我5億的融資。

  • It's better than I'm getting now, which is nothing I guess.

    這比我現在得到的要好,我想這不算什麼。

  • And the cool part about all the books is that it lets the market to decide everything mm is something that you need to constantly improve.

    而所有書中最酷的部分是,它讓市場來決定一切毫米是你需要不斷改進的東西。

  • Like a version of the version to get like the formulas right?

    就像一個版本的版本,以獲得類似的公式吧?

  • But all the book is like pretty much like supply them on.

    但所有的書都像是在為他們供貨。

  • They will manage everything and that's it.

    他們將管理一切,僅此而已。

  • Yeah.

    是的。

now I want to ask you the hard question because ava was built on the concept of fungible tokens.

現在我想問你一個很難回答的問題,因為阿瓦公司是建立在可替換代幣的概念上的。

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