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  • Okay, let's talk about you said web three point Oh, maybe we define it really quickly because a lot of people in your ecosystem think about web 1.2 point oh three point oh and again you just said it.

    好吧,讓我們談談你說的網絡三點哦,也許我們真的快速定義它,因為在你的生態系統中,很多人認為網絡1.2點哦三點哦,而且你剛才又說了。

  • We're not a defi company.

    我們不是一個defi公司。

  • World.

    世界。

  • Web three point oh company.

    網絡三點式哦公司。

  • Which means you're thinking bigger.

    這意味著你要想得更遠。

  • How do you explain that?

    你怎麼解釋呢?

  • Web 12 and three to people?

    網絡12和三到人?

  • You know like your mom?

    你知道像你媽媽那樣嗎?

  • Yeah, I would say kind of like Web one is where you know, things were like Internet became a kind of like obviously like a public network.

    是的,我想說有點像網絡一是你知道的,事情是像互聯網成為一種像明顯的公共網絡。

  • Then the two is more about you started to kind of like I see this centralized companies becoming uh you know bigger usage.

    然後兩個更多的是關於你開始有點像我看到這個集中的公司變得呃你知道更大的用法。

  • So instead of like you storing your data, you give up your data into, let's say if your social media to social media companies and you kind of are trusting centralized service providers.

    是以,而不是像你存儲你的數據,你放棄你的數據到,比方說,如果你的社交媒體到社交媒體公司,你有點是信任集中的服務提供商。

  • And with three is more about how you can actually keep your data, keep your keys, keep your finances and decide like what do you share.

    而與三是更多關於你如何能夠真正保持你的數據,保持你的鑰匙,保持你的財務和決定像你分享什麼。

  • And also like how you transact because for example, uh it's not about software, it's also about services.

    也喜歡你的交易方式,因為比如說,呃,這不是關於軟件,也是關於服務。

  • For example, if you go to a bank and you deposit funds, it's pretty much like being in a uh some sort of like a 12 real where you are like actually trusting someone.

    例如,如果你去銀行存錢,這很像在一個呃某種像12個真實的地方,你就像真的信任某人。

  • But the tree is about where you don't need to trust a centralist party, you actually control your keys.

    但這棵樹是關於你不需要信任一個中心主義政黨,你實際上控制著你的鑰匙。

  • If you control your keys, you control your Bitcoin, your ethereum uh your deposits into the other protocol or some other defy protocol you might control.

    如果你控制了你的鑰匙,你就控制了你的比特幣,你的以太坊呃你的存款到其他協議或其他一些你可能控制的defy協議。

  • You are uh social graph network because you have the keys.

    你是呃社會圖形網絡,因為你有鑰匙。

  • So it's all about, there isn't anymore this idea of centralized uh kind of like a network or a party that you are giving up your data and your feeding them which are using that data to sell your services instead.

    是以,這都是關於,不再有這種集中的想法,呃有點像一個網絡或一方,你正在放棄你的數據,你喂他們,而他們正在使用這些數據來出售你的服務。

  • You're practically having everything on your your own position.

    你實際上是在你自己的位置上擁有一切。

  • First time kind of like with the use of technology and that's pretty much like the tree.

    第一次有點像與技術的使用,這就很像樹。

  • It's a long explanation but maybe because there's just so many things happening at the same time, it's a really important concept and I don't think it's one as humans that were even used to, I had um Sandeep the ceo of polygon and he said brian this isn't technology.

    這是一個很長的解釋,但也許是因為有這麼多事情同時發生,這是一個非常重要的概念,我不認為這是一個作為人類甚至習慣的概念,我有嗯桑迪普,Polygon的首席執行官,他說布里安這不是技術。

  • It's a paradigm shift.

    這是一個範式的轉變。

  • He said a couple 100 years ago maybe in Finland and maybe here in the UK we had kings that told us what to do in queens and we were like, okay, now we have governments that we have banks and now we have, you know, facebook and google.

    他說,幾個100年前,也許在芬蘭,也許在英國這裡,我們有國王,告訴我們做什麼的女王,我們就像,好吧,現在我們有政府,我們有銀行,現在我們有,你知道,Facebook和谷歌。

  • But at the end of the day we don't really own our money because the bank has custody of it kind of tells us what to do.

    但在一天結束時,我們並不真正擁有我們的錢,因為銀行對它的保管是一種告訴我們該怎麼做。

  • Um facebook controls our data.

    嗯,Facebook控制著我們的數據。

  • I broadcast on Youtube.

    我在Youtube上廣播。

  • But I found out last year that they might stop me at some point.

    但我去年發現,他們可能會在某個時候阻止我。

  • Exactly.

    正是如此。

  • So you need basically some sort of decentralized social media where you can broadcast like in a way where, you know, you can decide like what the audience basically can see.

    是以,你基本上需要某種分散的社交媒體,你可以以一種方式進行廣播,你知道,你可以決定像觀眾基本上可以看到什麼。

  • So it's all about the centralization where actually and part of the decentralization isn't even like the censorship resistance but that it's actually not any more centralized uh kind of like a entity is deciding things but community is deciding instead.

    是以,它是所有關於集中化的地方,實際上和部分分散化甚至不是像審查制度的阻力,但它實際上不是任何更集中的呃那種像一個實體正在決定的事情,而是社區正在決定的。

  • So for example, the other protocol example where uh not of and not any centralist parties controlling the protocol.

    是以,例如,另一個協議的例子,呃不是的,也不是任何中心主義政黨控制的協議。

  • Instead, there is a community that decides like what kind of assets could be listed in the future into the protocol that you can borrow against, what stable coins could be added there, how the protocol could be upgraded and changed.

    相反,有一個社區決定像什麼樣的資產可以在未來被列入協議,你可以借貸,什麼穩定的硬幣可以被添加到那裡,協議可以如何升級和改變。

  • It goes from the idea of like, hey let's trust a let's trust google facebook GPM or S H B C into something like, hey, let's decide as a community how we will build in the future.

    它從像,嘿,讓我們相信一個讓我們相信谷歌臉譜GPM或S H B C的想法變成像,嘿,讓我們作為一個社區決定我們將在未來如何建設。

  • And the interesting part here is that there's always a minority in the community.

    而這裡有趣的是,社會上總是有少數人的存在。

  • And uh you never want to kind of like uh you have to take the the ideas of the minority as well because there's always a risk in an open source system where if you don't have a wide consensus, they can always fork your code and create a spin of community.

    而且,你永遠不希望有點像......你也必須接受少數人的想法,因為在一個開放源碼系統中,如果你沒有廣泛的共識,他們總是可以分叉你的代碼,創造一個旋轉的社區。

  • And and that actually creates this competition and constant uh mindfulness that you need to ensure that everyone is kind of like working towards the same direction and you can't be uh you have to be very altruistic when you when you govern these protocols, right?

    而這實際上創造了這種競爭和持續的呃心態,你需要確保每個人都有點像朝著同一個方向努力,你不能呃你必須非常利他,當你當你治理這些協議,對嗎?

  • And I think you're a big fan of the hard fork threat being an important part of governance.

    而且我認為你是硬分叉威脅是治理的一個重要部分的大粉絲。

  • Knowing that at some point people could leave.

    知道在某些時候人們可能會離開。

  • Like my daughter, she's 17, she lives at home.

    像我的女兒,她17歲了,住在家裡。

  • If my rules get too draconian, she'll leave.

    如果我的規則過於苛刻,她就會離開。

  • Like I'm going to move in with my friend, I'll be like, oops, I didn't want to go that far, I want you to be part of this family, I just want you to stop misbehaving.

    就像我要搬到我的朋友那裡去住,我會說,哎呀,我不想走那麼遠,我想讓你成為這個家庭的一部分,我只是想讓你不要再行為不端。

  • And so it's true with the community if people have seen in the past, I think ethereum classic Bitcoin cash.

    是以,如果人們在過去看到的社區是真實的,我認為以太坊經典的比特幣現金。

  • These are instruments that decided to go their own ways with their own rules and try to go it alone and that sometimes can can split up a community and split up liquidity, but also it can keep everybody on the same page right, keep the right things happening with the right protocol.

    這些工具決定走自己的路,有自己的規則,並試圖單獨行動,這有時可能會分裂一個社區,分裂流動性,但也可以使每個人都在同一頁上,保持正確的事情發生,有正確的協議。

  • Exactly.

    正是如此。

  • And also it creates uh I would say like an alternative whatever already exists.

    而且,它還創造了呃,我想說的是,像一個替代性的什麼已經存在。

  • And maybe if two different kinds of groups are innovating, maybe we'll see two different alternatives, you know, in terms of innovation and it gives also space for new people to come in and build things.

    而且,如果兩個不同類型的團體正在創新,也許我們會看到兩種不同的選擇,你知道,在創新方面,它也給了新人進來和建立東西的空間。

  • So I I think like forking is, is is good and some folks are mean for some folks might, I mean there was a one decentralized protocol that basically had a completely informed that became actually a very substantial protocol in terms of like how much value it has in the smart contracts.

    是以,我認為像分叉是,是好的,有些人是指對一些人可能,我的意思是有一個去中心化的協議,基本上有一個完全的通知,實際上成為一個非常可觀的協議,就像它在智能合約方面有多少價值。

  • But it's always like a good to have this threat, you know that you know if you become like a dictator in the protocol uh as a like a larger stakeholder, there's always a risk that the minority can just fork it and create something better and they have chances to try especially because they can create incentives in a cryptographic way.

    但是,有這種威脅總是好的,你知道,你知道如果你成為協議中的獨裁者,呃,作為一個像大的利益相關者,總是有風險,少數人可以只是分叉,創造更好的東西,他們有機會嘗試,特別是因為他們可以在加密的方式創造獎勵。

  • So I think Blockchain is not only about the centralization but this centralization plus incentives because we had, you know distributed models appear to be a system file sharing what not.

    所以我認為區塊鏈不僅僅是集中化,而是這種集中化加上激勵,因為我們曾經,你知道分佈式模型似乎是一個系統文件共享什麼的。

  • But they never were beyond like this barter economy where you you share a song and and basically I share a song and you know we exchange napster.

    但他們從來沒有超越像這樣的易貨經濟,你你分享一首歌,基本上我分享一首歌,你知道我們交換Napster。

  • Exactly, there was no way to quantify value exactly value.

    確切地說,沒有辦法準確量化價值。

  • Exactly.

    正是如此。

  • And now you you first time ever you have like crypto economics, you have incentives, you can organize the centrist fashion as an organization, vote on things and everything is based on this smart contract based software.

    而現在你有史以來第一次有了像加密貨幣經濟學,你有激勵機制,你可以把中間派的時尚組織起來,對事情進行投票,一切都基於這個基於智能合約的軟件。

Okay, let's talk about you said web three point Oh, maybe we define it really quickly because a lot of people in your ecosystem think about web 1.2 point oh three point oh and again you just said it.

好吧,讓我們談談你說的網絡三點哦,也許我們真的快速定義它,因為在你的生態系統中,很多人認為網絡1.2點哦三點哦,而且你剛才又說了。

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