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  • Yeah, but it's something we, you know, we saw last year with pandemic.

    是的,但這是我們,你知道,我們去年在大流行病中看到的東西。

  • We saw it with politics, but I'd say Roger, a lot of people don't see it as clearly with crypto.

    我們在政治方面看到了這一點,但我想說,羅傑,很多人在加密貨幣方面沒有看得那麼清楚。

  • First of all, have you seen a lot of things behind the scenes and how do we try to keep an eye on this going forward?

    首先,你是否看到了很多幕後的事情,我們如何努力保持對這一問題的關注,繼續前進?

  • How do we try to get real information to the people?

    我們如何努力將真正的資訊傳遞給人民?

  • So the censorship in Cryptocurrency from my own firsthand Direct knowledge started as early as 2000 and 11.

    是以,從我自己的第一手直接知識來看,加密貨幣中的審查制度早在2000年和11年就開始了。

  • Right, so this is really, really so in 2011 of june for the first time in my experience with Bitcoin, there was the first big price right up.

    對,所以這是真的,真的,所以在2011年6月,在我對比特幣的經驗中第一次出現了第一個大的價格。

  • And the price over the course of a couple of weeks went from around two or $3 to $30 in june of 2011.

    在幾個星期的時間裡,價格從2或3美元左右上升到2011年6月的30美元。

  • And the main place where everybody was discussing Bitcoin at that time was a forum called Bitcoin talk dot org.

    而當時大家討論比特幣的主要場所是一個叫比特幣對話點的論壇。

  • And on that form, everybody kind of knew everybody.

    在那種形式下,每個人都認識每個人。

  • It wasn't a giant community at that point, right?

    那時候還不是一個巨大的社區,對嗎?

  • The price was you know, single digits when when this took place.

    當發生這種情況時,價格是你知道的,個位數。

  • Uh and all of a sudden what happened when the entire world and the mainstream media started reporting on Bitcoin how it hit $30 for the first time.

    呃,突然間發生了什麼,當整個世界和主流媒體開始報道比特幣如何首次達到30美元。

  • There was a flood of these like fake accounts on the forum that were just posting nonsense fluff by cell.

    論壇上充斥著這些類似於假賬戶的東西,它們只是按單元格發佈胡言亂語的絨毛。

  • Oh no and just made the forum completely unusable.

    哦,不,只是讓論壇完全無法使用。

  • They effectively shut down the discussion place for Bitcoin at the time when Bitcoin needed to have these discussions the most and the most new people were coming to Bitcoin to learn about it.

    在比特幣最需要這些討論的時候,在最多新人來了解比特幣的時候,他們實際上關閉了比特幣的討論場所。

  • So as early as 2011 there was some sort of orchestrated attempt to disrupt the discussion platforms were discussing Bitcoin and then much later on I think it was 2015 or so our Bitcoin on Reddit and Red, it's a whole nother censorship story.

    是以,早在2011年,就有某種精心策劃的企圖破壞討論平臺正在討論比特幣,然後在很久以後,我想是2015年左右,我們的比特幣在Reddit和Red,這是一個完全不同的審查故事。

  • But our Bitcoin was the big discussion platform where everybody was talking about Bitcoin and had more traffic than every single other Bitcoin news website combined.

    但我們的比特幣是一個大的討論平臺,每個人都在談論比特幣,其流量比其他所有比特幣新聞網站的總和還要大。

  • And then all of a sudden overnight all the moderators that everybody knew got kicked out of the moderator ship position, this other guy using an alias then imposed this draconian censorship policy that's been going on to this very day.

    然後突然在一夜之間,所有大家都認識的版主都被踢出了版主的位置,這個用化名的另一個人就強加了這個嚴厲的審查政策,一直持續到今天。

  • And at the time it happened, everybody knew what was going on.

    而在事情發生的時候,所有人都知道發生了什麼。

  • Everybody knew the truth.

    每個人都知道真相。

  • Everybody knew that Bitcoin was supposed to scale on chain to be money for the entire world.

    每個人都知道,比特幣應該在鏈上擴展,成為整個世界的貨幣。

  • You could read it right there on Bitcoin dot org still to this very day if you go on the internet archive way back machine.

    你可以在比特幣網站上讀到它,直到今天,如果你去互聯網檔案館的機器上讀到它。

  • But then over time that censorship really really became effective.

    但後來隨著時間的推移,這種審查制度真的真的變得有效。

  • And everybody that came to Bitcoin after the censorship started, only got to hear one narrative.

    而在審查制度開始後,所有來到比特幣的人都只能聽到一種說法。

  • And it launched this whole new generation of Bitcoin maximalist that don't know the truth, that don't know that Bitcoin was supposed to be money for the world.

    它啟動了整個新一代的比特幣極端主義者,他們不知道真相,不知道比特幣本來應該是世界的貨幣。

  • Uh And I guess that's why governments engaged in censorship because it just plain works.

    我想這就是為什麼政府從事審查制度,因為它只是普通的工作。

  • And that was really surprising to me.

    而這真的讓我感到驚訝。

  • I was I guess I was naive and thinking that the truth would win out in the short term.

    我是我想我很天真,認為真理會在短期內勝出。

  • And I'm still cautiously optimistic that went out in the long term.

    而且我仍然謹慎樂觀地認為,從長遠來看,出去了。

  • But my gosh, in the short term, what it disrupted disruptive, horrible thing.

    但我的天哪,在短期內,它所打亂的是破壞性的、可怕的東西。

  • It was to Bitcoin to have this censorship going on of what's supposed to be censorship money for the world.

    這是對比特幣的審查,讓這個本應是審查錢的世界發生了這種審查。

  • So if you're using censorship to protect your censorship money, you've missed the entire point of what's going on with Bitcoin.

    所以,如果你用審查制度來保護你的審查資金,你就錯過了比特幣的全部意義。

  • And that's still going on to this very day to where you'll see people attack me and attack a Jihan wu the man who brought Bitcoin to all of china and translated the white paper into chinese and spread to the whole world.

    這種情況一直持續到今天,你會看到有人攻擊我,攻擊吳忌寒,他把比特幣帶到中國各地,把白皮書翻譯成中文並傳播到全世界。

  • The both of us today are a big giant Bitcoin cash fans and you'll see these Bitcoin maximus try and claim that we're scammers are attacking Bitcoin.

    今天我們倆都是比特幣現金的大巨頭粉絲,你會看到這些比特幣格言家試圖聲稱我們是金光黨在攻擊比特幣。

  • No, or the people who brought Bitcoin to the world.

    不,還是把比特幣帶到世界上的人。

  • And then you see much more recent newcomers to Bitcoin, like Michael Sailor who just plain don't understand because of the censorship that went on and Michael if you want to learn about it.

    然後你看到最近更多的比特幣新人,像Michael Sailor,他們只是因為審查制度的進行而不理解,如果你想了解它,Michael。

  • Uh more than happy to give you a one on one private tutoring session and everything that happened and show you why Bitcoin cash dot Bitcoin cash is a better tool to bring more economic freedom to the world.

    呃更樂意給你一個一對一的私人輔導課程和發生的一切,並告訴你為什麼比特幣現金點比特幣現金是一個更好的工具,給世界帶來更多的經濟自由。

Yeah, but it's something we, you know, we saw last year with pandemic.

是的,但這是我們,你知道,我們去年在大流行病中看到的東西。

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