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  • I just wanted to cover, you know, one of the last things on a personal note, I mean, one of the things that wanted me to have you on the show, Ben is uh, your honesty about some of the things you faced in your life.

    我只是想談談,你知道,最後一件事是關於個人的,我是說,讓我請你上節目的原因之一,本是呃,你對你生活中面臨的一些事情的坦誠。

  • And you know, I I came out a few years ago and told my audience about some dark times I had when I was actually in new york city and I struggled with addiction and in 2000 and one the trade center came down and and I had a heroin overdose.

    你知道,我幾年前出櫃,告訴我的聽眾我有一些黑暗的日子,當時我實際上在紐約市,我與毒癮作鬥爭,在2000年,貿易中心倒塌,我有一個海洛因過量。

  • And I told people about it about 20 years later, I told my wife and family about it.

    大約20年後,我把這件事告訴了別人,我把這件事告訴了我的妻子和家人。

  • We made a whole movie about it and a lot of people.

    我們為此拍了一整部電影,也有很多人。

  • Um, I was very scared to talk about that, but a lot of people, um, it really helped them because, you know, these things happen to a lot of people and a lot of friends and family and I think it's really powerful when people talk about this stuff and look, I know you you you had a time in your life where you struggle with addiction and I just think sometimes it's important for men and women out there to know that you and I we weren't always this way, you know, we weren't always in a place where we feel really good and empowered and on top of our game, and I'm just wondering if there's something you can tell us about that or something you learned about that, or if someone's out there in a tough space, just thoughts for them.

    嗯,我非常害怕談論這個問題,但很多人,嗯,這真的幫助了他們,因為,你知道,這些事情發生在很多人身上,很多朋友和家人,我認為當人們談論這些東西時,這真的很有力量,看,我知道你你在你的生活中曾有一段時間與成癮作鬥爭,我只是認為有時對男人和女人來說,重要的是知道你和我,我們不是一直這樣。你知道,我們並不總是在一個讓我們感覺非常好、有能力、處於巔峰狀態的地方,我只是想知道你是否能告訴我們一些事情,或者你在這方面學到的一些東西,或者如果有人處於艱難的空間,就為他們想想。

  • Yeah, well, I mean addiction is a powerful beast and for me, I mean one of the craziest things to me is uh you know, like a lot of people view me as just like, I'm a regular guy, I'm a dad.

    是的,我的意思是,上癮是一個強大的野獸,對我來說,我的意思是,對我來說最瘋狂的事情之一是,呃,你知道,就像很多人把我看作是,我是一個普通人,我是一個父親。

  • A lot of people know me as a dad, you know, like I love my kids, I made dad jokes, I'm your typical, like, you know, wear a fanny pack at Disney World dad.

    很多人都知道我是一個父親,你知道,就像我愛我的孩子,我開過父親的玩笑,我是你的典型,比如,你知道,在迪斯尼世界穿腰包的父親。

  • You know, like I just actually work fanny pack for the first time at the Bitcoin Conference and I found out it was really useful and so now I'm gonna have one for all the time.

    你知道,就像我剛剛在比特幣會議上第一次實際工作腰包,我發現它真的很有用,所以現在我要一直有一個。

  • So now I know I'm officially in the club, but it's always funny to me is when people say, oh my gosh, you got this addiction history.

    所以現在我知道我正式加入了這個俱樂部,但對我來說,最有趣的是當人們說,哦,我的天哪,你有這個上癮的歷史。

  • Like I would have never thought that about you.

    就像我從來沒有想過你一樣。

  • Like, go tell that to all the people that I was doing meth with in the early 2000s and they would be like, oh no, he was a terrible person.

    就像,去告訴所有在21世紀初和我一起做安非他命的人,他們會說,哦不,他是一個可怕的人。

  • Like, what do you mean?

    比如,你是什麼意思?

  • You can't see him doing doing drugs?

    你看不出他在吸毒嗎?

  • I was basically, uh, you know, on hard on hard drugs mainly met, that was my thing from 2007, I'm sorry from uh the age of 17 until 24 for seven years and it was very dark and it was very bad and you know that's just who I was, you know, I you know homeless at different times and I did the whole thing, the whole thing, it was my life, it was my obsession.

    我基本上,呃,你知道,主要是遇到硬性毒品,那是我的事情,從2007年開始,我很抱歉,從呃17歲到24歲,有七年時間,那是非常黑暗的,非常糟糕,你知道那就是我是誰,你知道,我你知道在不同時期無家可歸,我做了整個事情,整個事情,那是我的生活,那是我的迷戀。

  • I tried to get clean a couple times, I couldn't do it.

    我有幾次想戒毒,我做不到。

  • I ended up, I was on meth coke weed, seven hits of acid.

    我最後,我吸食了安非他命、可卡因和七次酸。

  • I got into a fight with a bunch of police officers and I overdosed I was under arrest.

    我和一群警察打了起來,我吸毒過量,我被逮捕了。

  • It was like a really, really, really bad situation facing a lot of prison time Actually in 2007.

    這就像一個非常、非常、非常糟糕的情況,面臨著大量的監禁時間其實在2007年。

  • And so I woke up out of the Coma, I was in a coma for three days and I woke up in the hospital bed.

    於是我從昏迷中醒來,我昏迷了三天,我在醫院的床上醒來。

  • I just woke up and I remember like sitting there in the bed and the light shining through had a breathing tube down my throat, I couldn't breathe, I mean I couldn't breathe on my own and I just remember like I opened my eyes, I saw this, I was like God thank you.

    我剛剛醒來,我記得就像坐在床上,燈光照耀下,我的喉嚨裡有一根呼吸管,我無法呼吸,我的意思是我無法自己呼吸,我只記得像我睜開眼睛,我看到這個,我就像上帝感謝你。

  • Like I just knew that I should be dead, I don't even know what, I didn't know at that time when it happened later on, you know, found out I went on a massive overdose and I was you know, very you know, off, you know, teetering on life and death for several, several, several hours and you know, I just woke up inside, I don't do this anymore, like I'm ready to be done with this.

    就像我只知道我應該死了,我甚至不知道是什麼,我當時不知道,當它後來發生時,你知道,發現我去了一個巨大的過量,我是你知道,非常你知道,關閉,你知道,在生與死之間徘徊了幾個,幾個,幾個小時,你知道,我只是在裡面醒來,我不做這個了,像我準備完成這個。

  • And so I went to rehab facility was actually called No longer bound is in cumming Georgia and I was there for um uh a year and then I did another year as an intern there and then so from the, from 2000 and nine all the way until I went into full time crypto basically in 2000 and 18 I worked with people in addiction recovery, I was the executive director of an addiction recovery center for teenage boys for a long time.

    所以我去了戒毒所,實際上是在佐治亞州的康明市,我在那裡呆了一年,然後我又在那裡做了一年的實習生,然後從2000年和9月一直到我在2000年和18年進入全職戒毒所,我與戒毒人員一起工作,我是一個青少年男孩戒毒中心的執行主任,有很長一段時間。

  • That was my heart because I was in my addiction when I was a teenager and beyond.

    那是我的心聲,因為我在十幾歲時和以後都在我的癮中。

  • And so I wanted to help kids.

    是以,我想幫助孩子們。

  • I did that for a long time and the messages very clear the lie of addiction is it doesn't get better.

    我做了很長時間,資訊非常清楚,成癮的謊言是它不會變好。

  • Like that's what keeps you locked in is that it will never be better than this.

    就像那是讓你鎖定的東西,是它永遠不會比這更好。

  • Like when you're getting high and when you're living that lifestyle that's the peak.

    就像當你得到高的時候,當你過著那種生活方式的時候,這就是高峰。

  • But in reality, like, that's the lie your mind is tricked on, you know, the trick that gets, you know, made on you actually when you're a regular person, not addicted to drugs, not addicted to alcohol, that's when you're really living your best life, and you don't understand that until you get out of it, and you look back on it.

    但實際上,就像,那是你的思想被欺騙的謊言,你知道,被欺騙的是,你知道,對你的欺騙,實際上當你是一個普通人,不沉迷於毒品,不沉迷於酒精的時候,那是你真正過上你最好的生活,你不明白,直到你走出它,你回顧它。

  • And so I would just say to anybody who's struggling with that or has family struggling through that, you know, don't give up on them, you know, keep encouraging them.

    是以,我只想對任何在這方面掙扎或有家人在這方面掙扎的人說,你知道,不要放棄他們,你知道,繼續鼓勵他們。

  • Or if it's you, like, just understand, like, look, if you find yourself having to justify what you're doing to keep doing it, it's probably a good sign, you might need some help.

    或者如果是你,比如,只是理解,比如,聽著,如果你發現自己不得不為你正在做的事情辯解以繼續做下去,這可能是一個好跡象,你可能需要一些幫助。

  • And I'm as big proponent as anyone, is getting structured help.

    我和其他人一樣,非常贊成獲得有組織的幫助。

  • I had a whole year, a whole year where I did nothing but work on myself.

    我有一整年的時間,一整年我什麼都不做,只在自己身上下功夫。

  • And that's really what has led me to the point I'm at today.

    而這確實是導致我達到今天這個地步的原因。

  • That's where I learned how to work hard and learn how to work through stuff.

    我就是在那裡學會了如何努力工作,學會了如何通過東西來工作。

  • And I would also just the last thing to add on is for, I would just say in my experience working with people in addiction because I work with people in adult and then teenagers addiction, There's always things driving it.

    我還想補充的最後一點是,我只想說根據我與成癮者一起工作的經驗,因為我與成人和青少年成癮者一起工作,總是有一些事情在推動它。

  • It's not just you like doing drugs.

    不僅僅是你喜歡做毒品。

  • That's also the lie that gets hooked, gets you hooked in guilt, shame, things from your past for their sexual abuse.

    這也是讓人上鉤的謊言,讓你為他們的性虐待而迷失在內疚、羞恥、你過去的事情中。

  • Uh, you know, physical abuse, mental abuse for your past traumatic events, death in your family, death of a parent, whatever it is, there's, there's a pain and something that is a hole inside of you that's not getting filled and you're filling it with that negativity with the drugs because you're trying to numb the way you really feel, We can truly actually start feeling whatever that traumatic event was, and go back through that and and really get healed from it.

    呃,你知道,身體上的虐待,精神上的虐待,因為你過去的創傷性事件,家庭中的死亡,父母的死亡,不管它是什麼,有,有一個痛苦和東西,是你內心的一個洞,沒有得到填補,你用藥物的消極性來填補它,因為你試圖麻木你真正的感覺,我們可以真正地開始感受任何創傷性的事件,並通過它回去,並真正得到治癒。

  • That's when you truly find freedom, and, you know, people ask me all the time, you're not all the time, just like, you know, it's a question people ask, like, what's the best day of your life?

    那是你真正找到自由的時候,而且,你知道,人們總是問我,你不是所有的時間,就像,你知道,這是一個人們問的問題,比如,你生命中最美好的一天是什麼?

  • Like, people always expect you to say, like, oh, like the day that my first child was born, or the day that I got married, or the day that, you know, I I started my business day, I went to rehab is the best day of my life, because everything else is uh you know, a reflection of that decision and what I went through that time, powerful, powerful stuff, and we we've had dr Gabor mate on the show, and um you know, he he believes that that all addiction comes from trauma, um he doesn't believe that all trauma causes existent addiction, but he believes all addictions comes from trauma, and he's worked on the streets with people in Vancouver and has had an incredible career, and and yeah, when I look back at my addiction, um I just I I didn't want to be me, and so I wanted to escape me.

    就像,人們總是希望你說,就像,哦,就像我的第一個孩子出生的那一天,或者我結婚的那一天,或者,你知道,我開始我的生意的那一天,我去戒毒所的那一天是我生命中最美好的一天,因為其他一切都呃你知道,反映了那個決定和我經歷的那段時間,強大的,強大的東西,我們我們已經有加博醫生伴侶在節目。他相信所有的成癮都來自於創傷,他不相信所有的創傷都會導致成癮,但他相信所有的成癮都來自於創傷,他在溫哥華的街頭與人們一起工作,有一個令人難以置信的職業生涯,是的,當我回顧我的成癮,我只是我不想成為我,所以我想逃避我。

  • Um sometimes I honestly, my own criticism, I think, for not being what I thought I should have been, and so again, uh it was there to take me out of reality, and little did I know there was nothing fun about that, and so um now I try to be present for the good and bad times, and I am thankful every day that I'm sober, it's it's something that uh it's a big deal for me and I appreciate your input there.

    嗯,有時我誠實地,我自己的責備,我想,因為不是我認為我應該有的,所以再次,嗯,它在那裡把我帶出現實,我不知道有什麼好玩的,所以嗯,現在我試著在好的和壞的時候,我感謝每一天,我是清醒的,這是它的東西,嗯,這是一個大問題,我感謝你的意見。

  • And I would say to anybody else out there, things can change and things can improve even though when you're repeating the cycle and, and to you, it looks like it will never change because it hasn't changed for a year or two years or three years, there are ways out and like you said, structure and other people and other inspiration can, can really make a massive difference.

    我想對其他任何人說,事情可以改變,事情可以改善,即使當你在重複循環,而且對你來說,它看起來永遠不會改變,因為它已經一年、兩年或三年沒有改變,有辦法解決,就像你說的,結構和其他人和其他靈感可以,真的可以帶來巨大的變化。

  • And uh the other last thing I'd say is that I found that some of the people that went down that route have now built some of the most incredible things out there.

    另外,我想說的是,我發現一些走這條路的人現在已經建立了一些最不可思議的東西。

  • Um A lot of my guests on the show, including, you know, guys like Grant Cardone, you know, used to be in the same place and they're like what him?

    嗯,我的很多節目嘉賓,包括,你知道,像格蘭特-卡多內這樣的人,你知道,曾經在同一個地方,他們喜歡什麼他?

  • And I find that those people sometimes when they can focus their energy and put it in a positive direction can sometimes do incredible things.

    我發現這些人有時能集中精力,把它放在一個積極的方向上,有時能做出不可思議的事情。

  • So I would say if you're struggling out there you're you're probably more powerful than you think you are and if you can channel this in the right direction, you could have an incredibly productive life too.

    所以我想說,如果你在外面掙扎,你是你可能比你認為的更有力量,如果你能把這個引導到正確的方向,你也可以有一個令人難以置信的生活。

  • So just absolutely I think that I think there's a reason for that.

    所以只是絕對的,我認為我認為這是有原因的。

  • Well I mean the obvious reasons like you go through something really tough and you come out on the other side and you know you learn how to do that and that's something that continue in life.

    我的意思是明顯的原因,比如你經歷了非常艱難的事情,你從另一邊走出來,你知道你學會了如何去做,這是在生活中繼續的事情。

  • I think a lot of people that end up in addiction, it's because they have very curious minds and you start going like oh I was told that you know drugs are bad, that weed is bad but oh my gosh first time I did it made me feel real good like you know everything must be aligned.

    我認為很多人最終會上癮,這是因為他們有非常好奇的心態,你開始喜歡哦,有人告訴我,你知道毒品是壞的,大麻是壞的,但是哦,我的天哪,我第一次做的時候讓我感覺非常好,就像你知道一切都必須是一致的。

  • So you start going down that rabbit hole and then you start questioning everything and then you don't even know who you are anymore once you go down that road a lot but it's a lot of that curiosity and that questioning and that judgment of what's going on, you know not judgment but like being able to judge where you are at in life compared to other people think a lot of that is what you know really drives people down the road to get super sucked into positive things.

    所以你開始進入那個兔子洞,然後你開始質疑一切,然後你甚至不知道你是誰了,一旦你沿著那條路走了很多,但這是很多的好奇心和質疑,以及對發生的事情的判斷,你知道不是判斷,而是像能夠判斷你在生活中與其他人相比處於什麼位置,認為很多是你知道真正促使人們在路上被超級吸進積極的事情。

  • And you know one thing that always thought was funny was a guy who I knew in rehab, you know he told me that he thought I was a closet perfectionist and that was always my problem is I could never do anything perfect or well and so I just kept going further down the negative, you know, hold there and you know, he was dead right, like that's the thing is I want to do everything so well and I want to achieve and I want to perform and I will do everything positive now, but in the past I just always channel that, you know in the wrong direction and so a lot of people who are locked in addiction, especially from teenage years, the majority of kids or the majority of people that are in addiction, you started in your teenage years and you stunted your growth in a lot of ways and when you're able to break free of that, you'll actually discover there's a lot of qualities that we're getting developed in you that you weren't able to quite reach yet when you break through from that addiction, those things start to come back and find out the best version of yourself as somebody better than you thought it was.

    你知道有一件事一直認為很有趣,是我在康復中心認識的一個人,你知道他告訴我,他認為我是一個封閉的完美主義者,這一直是我的問題,我永遠不能做任何完美或良好的事情,所以我只是不斷地在消極方面進一步發展,你知道,他是完全正確的,就像那件事是我想把一切都做得很好,我想實現,我想表演,我現在會做一切積極的事情,但在過去我只是總是引導它。你知道在錯誤的方向上,所以很多被鎖在癮裡的人,特別是在十幾歲的時候,大多數孩子或大多數有癮的人,你從十幾歲開始,你在很多方面阻礙了你的成長。你實際上會發現,有很多品質在你身上得到了發展

I just wanted to cover, you know, one of the last things on a personal note, I mean, one of the things that wanted me to have you on the show, Ben is uh, your honesty about some of the things you faced in your life.

我只是想談談,你知道,最後一件事是關於個人的,我是說,讓我請你上節目的原因之一,本是呃,你對你生活中面臨的一些事情的坦誠。

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