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NEWS SPECIAL REPORT.
NEWS SPECIAL REPORT. HERE'S LESTER HOLT.
HERE'S LESTER HOLT.
HERE'S LESTER HOLT. >> GOOD DAY, EVERYONE.
>> GOOD DAY, EVERYONE.
>> GOOD DAY, EVERYONE. PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT TO
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT TO
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT TO HOLD A NEWS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING
HOLD A NEWS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING
HOLD A NEWS CONFERENCE FOLLOWING THE NATO SUMMIT IN BRUSSELS.
THE NATO SUMMIT IN BRUSSELS.
THE NATO SUMMIT IN BRUSSELS. HE IS LOOKING TO TURN THE PAGE
HE IS LOOKING TO TURN THE PAGE
HE IS LOOKING TO TURN THE PAGE WITH NATO ALLIES AFTER FORMER
WITH NATO ALLIES AFTER FORMER
WITH NATO ALLIES AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CALLED
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CALLED
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CALLED THE ALLIANCE OBSOLETE.
THE ALLIANCE OBSOLETE.
THE ALLIANCE OBSOLETE. THIS IS THE LATEST LEG IN THE
THIS IS THE LATEST LEG IN THE
THIS IS THE LATEST LEG IN THE PRESIDENT'S FIRST FOREIGN TRIP
PRESIDENT'S FIRST FOREIGN TRIP
PRESIDENT'S FIRST FOREIGN TRIP AS PRESIDENT, WHICH WILL
AS PRESIDENT, WHICH WILL
AS PRESIDENT, WHICH WILL CULMINATE WITH THE MUCH
CULMINATE WITH THE MUCH
CULMINATE WITH THE MUCH ANTICIPATED SUMMIT WITH RUSSIAN
ANTICIPATED SUMMIT WITH RUSSIAN
ANTICIPATED SUMMIT WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN LATER
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN LATER
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN LATER THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK. YOU CAN SEE THE PODIUM SET FOR
YOU CAN SEE THE PODIUM SET FOR
YOU CAN SEE THE PODIUM SET FOR THE PRESIDENT SEATED IN THE
THE PRESIDENT SEATED IN THE
THE PRESIDENT SEATED IN THE FRONT ROW, DEFENSE SECRETARY
FRONT ROW, DEFENSE SECRETARY
FRONT ROW, DEFENSE SECRETARY LLOYD AUSTIN, SECRETARY OF STATE
LLOYD AUSTIN, SECRETARY OF STATE
LLOYD AUSTIN, SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN ALSO THERE.
ANTONY BLINKEN ALSO THERE.
ANTONY BLINKEN ALSO THERE. A LOT TO DISCUSS WITH THE
A LOT TO DISCUSS WITH THE
A LOT TO DISCUSS WITH THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. CERTAINLY HE HAS HEARD A LOT
CERTAINLY HE HAS HEARD A LOT
CERTAINLY HE HAS HEARD A LOT ABOUT CONCERNS OF FELLOW NATO
ABOUT CONCERNS OF FELLOW NATO
ABOUT CONCERNS OF FELLOW NATO MEMBERS THAT HE WILL LIKELY
MEMBERS THAT HE WILL LIKELY
MEMBERS THAT HE WILL LIKELY BRING IN THE MEETING WITH
BRING IN THE MEETING WITH
BRING IN THE MEETING WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN. ALSO CHINA.
ALSO CHINA.
ALSO CHINA. MANY OF THE THINGS THEY DISCUSS
MANY OF THE THINGS THEY DISCUSS
MANY OF THE THINGS THEY DISCUSS IN THE G-7 SEEN TO THE CONTEXT
IN THE G-7 SEEN TO THE CONTEXT
IN THE G-7 SEEN TO THE CONTEXT OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
OF NATIONAL SECURITY.
OF NATIONAL SECURITY. SO THE PRESIDENT EAGER TO ANSWER
SO THE PRESIDENT EAGER TO ANSWER
SO THE PRESIDENT EAGER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT MANY OF THOSE
QUESTIONS ABOUT MANY OF THOSE
QUESTIONS ABOUT MANY OF THOSE THINGS.
THINGS.
THINGS. AS WE AWAIT HIS APDS ON THE
AS WE AWAIT HIS APDS ON THE
AS WE AWAIT HIS APDS ON THE STAGE LET'S QUICKLY GO TO OUR
STAGE LET'S QUICKLY GO TO OUR
STAGE LET'S QUICKLY GO TO OUR CHIEF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
CHIEF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
CHIEF FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT ANDREA MITCHELL.
CORRESPONDENT ANDREA MITCHELL.
CORRESPONDENT ANDREA MITCHELL. GIVE US A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT AS
GIVE US A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT AS
GIVE US A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT AS THE PRESIDENT PREPARES TO PEEK.
THE PRESIDENT PREPARES TO PEEK.
THE PRESIDENT PREPARES TO PEEK. >> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
>> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS
THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS
THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS MEETING IS THEIR DECISION TO PUT
MEETING IS THEIR DECISION TO PUT
MEETING IS THEIR DECISION TO PUT IN THEIR COMMUNIQUE, TO ANNOUNCE
IN THEIR COMMUNIQUE, TO ANNOUNCE
IN THEIR COMMUNIQUE, TO ANNOUNCE THAT CHINA IS A GROWING THREAT.
THAT CHINA IS A GROWING THREAT.
THAT CHINA IS A GROWING THREAT. A MILITARY THREAT, CONCERN ABOUT
A MILITARY THREAT, CONCERN ABOUT
A MILITARY THREAT, CONCERN ABOUT CHINA'S GROWING INFLUENCE,
CHINA'S GROWING INFLUENCE,
CHINA'S GROWING INFLUENCE, GROWING NUCLEAR POWER.
GROWING NUCLEAR POWER.
GROWING NUCLEAR POWER. THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION FOR MORE
THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION FOR MORE
THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION FOR MORE THAN 70 YEARS DEVOTED TO ITS
THAN 70 YEARS DEVOTED TO ITS
THAN 70 YEARS DEVOTED TO ITS ORIGINS GOING UP AGAINST THE
ORIGINS GOING UP AGAINST THE
ORIGINS GOING UP AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION, THE WEST AGAINST
SOVIET UNION, THE WEST AGAINST
SOVIET UNION, THE WEST AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION, THEN AND NOW
THE SOVIET UNION, THEN AND NOW
THE SOVIET UNION, THEN AND NOW THE WEST, EUROPE AND AMERICA
THE WEST, EUROPE AND AMERICA
THE WEST, EUROPE AND AMERICA AGAINST RUSSIA.
AGAINST RUSSIA.
AGAINST RUSSIA. AND SO FOR THEM -- FOR THE FIRST
AND SO FOR THEM -- FOR THE FIRST
AND SO FOR THEM -- FOR THE FIRST TIME TO DESCRIBE CHINA AS A
TIME TO DESCRIBE CHINA AS A
TIME TO DESCRIBE CHINA AS A THREAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
THREAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
THREAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT
IT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN WANTED.
BIDEN WANTED.
BIDEN WANTED. IT'S WHAT HE DID NOT FULLY GET
IT'S WHAT HE DID NOT FULLY GET
IT'S WHAT HE DID NOT FULLY GET IN TERMS OF TOUGH LANGUAGE ABOUT
IN TERMS OF TOUGH LANGUAGE ABOUT
IN TERMS OF TOUGH LANGUAGE ABOUT CHINA FROM THE G-7.
CHINA FROM THE G-7.
CHINA FROM THE G-7. HE GOT EVERYTHING HE WANTED FROM
HE GOT EVERYTHING HE WANTED FROM
HE GOT EVERYTHING HE WANTED FROM WHAT I CAN READ.
WHAT I CAN READ.
WHAT I CAN READ. TOUGH STANCE AGAINST RUSSIA AND
TOUGH STANCE AGAINST RUSSIA AND
TOUGH STANCE AGAINST RUSSIA AND CHINA, CALLING BOTH OF THEM PART
CHINA, CALLING BOTH OF THEM PART
CHINA, CALLING BOTH OF THEM PART OF THE GROWTH OF AUTHORITARIAN
OF THE GROWTH OF AUTHORITARIAN
OF THE GROWTH OF AUTHORITARIAN REGIMES THE WEST HAS TO BE
REGIMES THE WEST HAS TO BE
REGIMES THE WEST HAS TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
CONCERNED ABOUT.
CONCERNED ABOUT. STRONG AND RESPONSIVE.
STRONG AND RESPONSIVE.
STRONG AND RESPONSIVE. WHAT IS ALSO NOW BREAKING IS A
WHAT IS ALSO NOW BREAKING IS A
WHAT IS ALSO NOW BREAKING IS A TWEET BY PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE
TWEET BY PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE
TWEET BY PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE WANTING TO GET INTO NATO.
WANTING TO GET INTO NATO.
WANTING TO GET INTO NATO. HE WANTS THE NATO CONTRACT TO
HE WANTS THE NATO CONTRACT TO
HE WANTS THE NATO CONTRACT TO BECOME A MEMBER OF NATO SO NATO
BECOME A MEMBER OF NATO SO NATO
BECOME A MEMBER OF NATO SO NATO HAS TO DEFEND HIM AGAINST
HAS TO DEFEND HIM AGAINST
HAS TO DEFEND HIM AGAINST RUSSIA.
RUSSIA.
RUSSIA. THAT WOULD BE MILITARILY
THAT WOULD BE MILITARILY
THAT WOULD BE MILITARILY SOMETHING VERY CHALLENGING.
SOMETHING VERY CHALLENGING.
SOMETHING VERY CHALLENGING. SOMETHING THE U.S. DOESN'T WANT.
SOMETHING THE U.S. DOESN'T WANT.
SOMETHING THE U.S. DOESN'T WANT. THEY WANT TO GIVE HIM SUPPORT,
THEY WANT TO GIVE HIM SUPPORT,
THEY WANT TO GIVE HIM SUPPORT, WEAPONS, BUT NOT BE ENGAGED IN A
WEAPONS, BUT NOT BE ENGAGED IN A
WEAPONS, BUT NOT BE ENGAGED IN A POTENTIAL GROUND WAR AGAINST
POTENTIAL GROUND WAR AGAINST
POTENTIAL GROUND WAR AGAINST RUSSIA, WHICH IS NOT ONLY NEXT
RUSSIA, WHICH IS NOT ONLY NEXT
RUSSIA, WHICH IS NOT ONLY NEXT DOOR BUT NOW PART OF THE UKRAINE
DOOR BUT NOW PART OF THE UKRAINE
DOOR BUT NOW PART OF THE UKRAINE AND PRIMIA BECAUSE OF THEIR 2014
AND PRIMIA BECAUSE OF THEIR 2014
AND PRIMIA BECAUSE OF THEIR 2014 INVASION.
INVASION.
INVASION. PROBABLY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING
PROBABLY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING
PROBABLY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING HIM ON THE TRACK TO BECOME PART
HIM ON THE TRACK TO BECOME PART
HIM ON THE TRACK TO BECOME PART OF NATO.
OF NATO.
OF NATO. IT TOOK POLAND TEN YEARS TO
IT TOOK POLAND TEN YEARS TO
IT TOOK POLAND TEN YEARS TO REACH ALL THE LEVELS OF MILITARY
REACH ALL THE LEVELS OF MILITARY
REACH ALL THE LEVELS OF MILITARY PROFICIENCY TO BECOME A FULL
PROFICIENCY TO BECOME A FULL
PROFICIENCY TO BECOME A FULL MEMBER.
MEMBER.
MEMBER. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD READ TOO
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD READ TOO
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD READ TOO MUCH INTO IT.
MUCH INTO IT.
MUCH INTO IT. >> ANDREA, HERE IS THE PRESIDENT
>> ANDREA, HERE IS THE PRESIDENT
>> ANDREA, HERE IS THE PRESIDENT NOW.
NOW.
NOW. >> BEFORE I TURN TO TODAY'S
>> BEFORE I TURN TO TODAY'S
>> BEFORE I TURN TO TODAY'S MEETINGS, I WANT TO SAY A SHORT
MEETINGS, I WANT TO SAY A SHORT
MEETINGS, I WANT TO SAY A SHORT WORD ABOUT OUR ONGOING FIGHT
WORD ABOUT OUR ONGOING FIGHT
WORD ABOUT OUR ONGOING FIGHT AGAINST COVID-19 AT HOME.
AGAINST COVID-19 AT HOME.
AGAINST COVID-19 AT HOME. WE MADE ENORMOUS PROGRESS IN THE
WE MADE ENORMOUS PROGRESS IN THE
WE MADE ENORMOUS PROGRESS IN THE UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. MUCH OF THE COUNTRY IS RETURNING
MUCH OF THE COUNTRY IS RETURNING
MUCH OF THE COUNTRY IS RETURNING TO NORMAL.
TO NORMAL.
TO NORMAL. AND OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IS
AND OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IS
AND OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IS LEADING THE WORLD.
LEADING THE WORLD.
LEADING THE WORLD. AND THE NUMBER OF CASES AND
AND THE NUMBER OF CASES AND
AND THE NUMBER OF CASES AND DEATHS ARE DROPPING
DEATHS ARE DROPPING
DEATHS ARE DROPPING DRAMATICALLY.
DRAMATICALLY.
DRAMATICALLY. BUT THERE IS STILL TOO MANY
BUT THERE IS STILL TOO MANY
BUT THERE IS STILL TOO MANY LIVES BEING LOST.
LIVES BEING LOST.
LIVES BEING LOST. WE'RE STILL AVERAGING IN THE
WE'RE STILL AVERAGING IN THE
WE'RE STILL AVERAGING IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS THE LOSS OF 370
LAST SEVEN DAYS THE LOSS OF 370
LAST SEVEN DAYS THE LOSS OF 370 DEATHS PER DAY.
DEATHS PER DAY.
DEATHS PER DAY. 370 DEATHS.
370 DEATHS.
370 DEATHS. THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN
THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN
THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN AT THE PEAK OF THIS CRISIS.
AT THE PEAK OF THIS CRISIS.
AT THE PEAK OF THIS CRISIS. BUT IT'S STILL A REAL TRAGEDY.
BUT IT'S STILL A REAL TRAGEDY.
BUT IT'S STILL A REAL TRAGEDY. WE'RE APPROACHING A SAD
WE'RE APPROACHING A SAD
WE'RE APPROACHING A SAD MILESTONE, ALMOST 600,000 LOST
MILESTONE, ALMOST 600,000 LOST
MILESTONE, ALMOST 600,000 LOST LIVES BECAUSE OF COVID-19 IN
LIVES BECAUSE OF COVID-19 IN
LIVES BECAUSE OF COVID-19 IN AMERICA.
AMERICA.
AMERICA. MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE
MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE
MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE.
WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE.
WHO HAVE LOST A LOVED ONE. I KNOW THAT BLACK HOLE THAT
I KNOW THAT BLACK HOLE THAT
I KNOW THAT BLACK HOLE THAT SEEMS TO CONSUME YOU, THAT FILLS
SEEMS TO CONSUME YOU, THAT FILLS
SEEMS TO CONSUME YOU, THAT FILLS UP YOUR CHEST WHEN YOU LOSE
UP YOUR CHEST WHEN YOU LOSE
UP YOUR CHEST WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEONE THAT'S CLOSE TO YOU THAT
SOMEONE THAT'S CLOSE TO YOU THAT
SOMEONE THAT'S CLOSE TO YOU THAT YOU ADORED.
YOU ADORED.
YOU ADORED. THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO SAY TO
THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO SAY TO
THAT'S WHY I CONTINUE TO SAY TO AMERICA, IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN
AMERICA, IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN
AMERICA, IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN VACCINATED, GET VACCINATED.
VACCINATED, GET VACCINATED.
VACCINATED, GET VACCINATED. GET VACCINATED AS SOON AS
GET VACCINATED AS SOON AS
GET VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. WE HAVE PLENTY OF VACCINATIONS,
WE HAVE PLENTY OF VACCINATIONS,
WE HAVE PLENTY OF VACCINATIONS, PLENTY OF SITES.
PLENTY OF SITES.
PLENTY OF SITES. WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO TO BEAT
WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO TO BEAT
WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO TO BEAT IN VIRUS.
IN VIRUS.
IN VIRUS. AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO LET
AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO LET
AND NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO LET OUR GUARD DOWN.
OUR GUARD DOWN.
OUR GUARD DOWN. SO, PLEASE, PLEASE GET
SO, PLEASE, PLEASE GET
SO, PLEASE, PLEASE GET VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH PAIN.
WE'VE HAD ENOUGH PAIN.
WE'VE HAD ENOUGH PAIN. ENOUGH PAIN.
ENOUGH PAIN.
ENOUGH PAIN. FOLKS, I KNOW IT'S AFTER 9:30
FOLKS, I KNOW IT'S AFTER 9:30
FOLKS, I KNOW IT'S AFTER 9:30 BRUSSELS TIME, 9:30 P.M. AND I'M
BRUSSELS TIME, 9:30 P.M. AND I'M
BRUSSELS TIME, 9:30 P.M. AND I'M STILL AT NATO.
STILL AT NATO.
STILL AT NATO. YOU'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT, I
YOU'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT, I
YOU'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT, I KNOW.
KNOW.
KNOW. BUT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET
BUT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET
BUT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH SEVERAL LEADERS RECENTLY.
WITH SEVERAL LEADERS RECENTLY.
WITH SEVERAL LEADERS RECENTLY. AND I'VE HAD CALLS WITH OTHERS.
AND I'VE HAD CALLS WITH OTHERS.
AND I'VE HAD CALLS WITH OTHERS. IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLY
IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLY
IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE DAY HERE.
PRODUCTIVE DAY HERE.
PRODUCTIVE DAY HERE. I JUST FINISHED MEETING WITH
I JUST FINISHED MEETING WITH
I JUST FINISHED MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ERDOGAN OF TURKEY.
PRESIDENT ERDOGAN OF TURKEY.
PRESIDENT ERDOGAN OF TURKEY. WE HAD A POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE
WE HAD A POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE
WE HAD A POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE MEETING, MUCH OF IT ONE-ON-ONE.
MEETING, MUCH OF IT ONE-ON-ONE.
MEETING, MUCH OF IT ONE-ON-ONE. WE HAD DETAILED DISCUSSIONS
WE HAD DETAILED DISCUSSIONS
WE HAD DETAILED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED ON A NUMBER
ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED ON A NUMBER
ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
OF ISSUES.
OF ISSUES. OUR TWO COUNTRIES HAVE BIG
OUR TWO COUNTRIES HAVE BIG
OUR TWO COUNTRIES HAVE BIG AGENDAS.
AGENDAS.
AGENDAS. OUR TEAMS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
OUR TEAMS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
OUR TEAMS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS.
OUR DISCUSSIONS.
OUR DISCUSSIONS. AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL MAKE
AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL MAKE
AND I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL MAKE REAL PROGRESS WITH TURKEY AND
REAL PROGRESS WITH TURKEY AND
REAL PROGRESS WITH TURKEY AND THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES.
THE UNITED STATES. BUT NOW I WANT TO THANK
BUT NOW I WANT TO THANK
BUT NOW I WANT TO THANK SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG
SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG
SECRETARY GENERAL STOLTENBERG FOR LEADING A VERY SUCCESSFUL
FOR LEADING A VERY SUCCESSFUL
FOR LEADING A VERY SUCCESSFUL NATO SUMMIT TODAY.
NATO SUMMIT TODAY.
NATO SUMMIT TODAY. I HAD THE HONOR OF LEADING OFF
I HAD THE HONOR OF LEADING OFF
I HAD THE HONOR OF LEADING OFF THE DISCUSSION TODAY, AMONG THE
THE DISCUSSION TODAY, AMONG THE
THE DISCUSSION TODAY, AMONG THE 30 NATIONS.
30 NATIONS.
30 NATIONS. AND I POINTED OUT THAT WE ARE
AND I POINTED OUT THAT WE ARE
AND I POINTED OUT THAT WE ARE FACING A ONCE IN A CENTURY
FACING A ONCE IN A CENTURY
FACING A ONCE IN A CENTURY GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS, AT THE
GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS, AT THE
GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS, AT THE SAME TIME THE DEMOCRATIC VALUES
SAME TIME THE DEMOCRATIC VALUES
SAME TIME THE DEMOCRATIC VALUES THAT UNDERGIRD OUR ALLIANCE ARE
THAT UNDERGIRD OUR ALLIANCE ARE
THAT UNDERGIRD OUR ALLIANCE ARE UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE, BOTH
UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE, BOTH
UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE, BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.
INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.
INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY. RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE BOTH
RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE BOTH
RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE BOTH SEEKING TO DRIVE A WEDGE IN OUR
SEEKING TO DRIVE A WEDGE IN OUR
SEEKING TO DRIVE A WEDGE IN OUR TRANS-ATLANTIC SOLIDARITY.
TRANS-ATLANTIC SOLIDARITY.
TRANS-ATLANTIC SOLIDARITY. WE ARE SEEING INCREASE IN
WE ARE SEEING INCREASE IN
WE ARE SEEING INCREASE IN MALICIOUS CYBER ACTIVITY.
MALICIOUS CYBER ACTIVITY.
MALICIOUS CYBER ACTIVITY. BUT OUR ALLIANCE IS A STRONG
BUT OUR ALLIANCE IS A STRONG
BUT OUR ALLIANCE IS A STRONG FOUNDATION ON WHICH WE CAN --
FOUNDATION ON WHICH WE CAN --
FOUNDATION ON WHICH WE CAN -- OUR COLLECTIVE SECURITY AND
OUR COLLECTIVE SECURITY AND
OUR COLLECTIVE SECURITY AND SHARED PROSPERITY CAN CONTINUE
SHARED PROSPERITY CAN CONTINUE
SHARED PROSPERITY CAN CONTINUE TO BE BUILT.
TO BE BUILT.
TO BE BUILT. AND I MADE A POINT TO MAKE CLEAR
AND I MADE A POINT TO MAKE CLEAR
AND I MADE A POINT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE U.S. COMMITMENT TO
THAT THE U.S. COMMITMENT TO
THAT THE U.S. COMMITMENT TO ARTICLE 5 OF THE NATO TREATY IS
ARTICLE 5 OF THE NATO TREATY IS
ARTICLE 5 OF THE NATO TREATY IS ROCK SOLID AND UNSHAKABLE.
ROCK SOLID AND UNSHAKABLE.
ROCK SOLID AND UNSHAKABLE. IT'S A SACRED COMMITMENT.
IT'S A SACRED COMMITMENT.
IT'S A SACRED COMMITMENT. NATO -- NATO STANDS TOGETHER.
NATO -- NATO STANDS TOGETHER.
NATO -- NATO STANDS TOGETHER. THAT'S HOW WE MET EVERY OTHER
THAT'S HOW WE MET EVERY OTHER
THAT'S HOW WE MET EVERY OTHER THREAT IN THE PAST.
THREAT IN THE PAST.
THREAT IN THE PAST. IT'S OUR GREATEST STRENGTH AS WE
IT'S OUR GREATEST STRENGTH AS WE
IT'S OUR GREATEST STRENGTH AS WE MEET OUR CHALLENGES OF THE
MEET OUR CHALLENGES OF THE
MEET OUR CHALLENGES OF THE FUTURE.
FUTURE.
FUTURE. AND THERE ARE MANY.
AND THERE ARE MANY.
AND THERE ARE MANY. AND EVERYONE -- EVERYONE IN THAT
AND EVERYONE -- EVERYONE IN THAT
AND EVERYONE -- EVERYONE IN THAT ROOM TODAY UNDERSTOOD THE SHARED
ROOM TODAY UNDERSTOOD THE SHARED
ROOM TODAY UNDERSTOOD THE SHARED APPRECIATION, QUITE FRANKLY,
APPRECIATION, QUITE FRANKLY,
APPRECIATION, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT AMERICA IS BACK.
THAT AMERICA IS BACK.
THAT AMERICA IS BACK. WE TALKED WITH RUSSIA'S
WE TALKED WITH RUSSIA'S
WE TALKED WITH RUSSIA'S AGGRESSIVE ACTS THAT POSE A
AGGRESSIVE ACTS THAT POSE A
AGGRESSIVE ACTS THAT POSE A THREAT TO NATO AND OUR
THREAT TO NATO AND OUR
THREAT TO NATO AND OUR COLLECTIVE SECURITY.
COLLECTIVE SECURITY.
COLLECTIVE SECURITY. THAT'S WHY I MET WITH THE
THAT'S WHY I MET WITH THE
THAT'S WHY I MET WITH THE BUCHAREST, THE EASTERN FLANK I
BUCHAREST, THE EASTERN FLANK I
BUCHAREST, THE EASTERN FLANK I LIES AT THE SUMMIT AND THE MET
LIES AT THE SUMMIT AND THE MET
LIES AT THE SUMMIT AND THE MET WITH THE THREE BALTIC STATES,
WITH THE THREE BALTIC STATES,
WITH THE THREE BALTIC STATES, ESTONIA, LITHUANIA AND
ESTONIA, LITHUANIA AND
ESTONIA, LITHUANIA AND LITHUANIA.
LITHUANIA.
LITHUANIA. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR CONFLICT
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR CONFLICT
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR CONFLICT WITH RUSSIA, I WILL CONVEY TO
WITH RUSSIA, I WILL CONVEY TO
WITH RUSSIA, I WILL CONVEY TO PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN. BUT WE WILL RESPOND IF RUSSIA
BUT WE WILL RESPOND IF RUSSIA
BUT WE WILL RESPOND IF RUSSIA CONTINUES ITS HARMFUL
CONTINUES ITS HARMFUL
CONTINUES ITS HARMFUL ACTIVITIES.
ACTIVITIES.
ACTIVITIES. AND WE WILL NOT FAIL TO DEFEND
AND WE WILL NOT FAIL TO DEFEND
AND WE WILL NOT FAIL TO DEFEND THE TRANS-ATLANTIC ALLIANCE OR
THE TRANS-ATLANTIC ALLIANCE OR
THE TRANS-ATLANTIC ALLIANCE OR STAND UP FOR DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
STAND UP FOR DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
STAND UP FOR DEMOCRATIC VALUES. AS ALLIES WE AFFIRMED OUR
AS ALLIES WE AFFIRMED OUR
AS ALLIES WE AFFIRMED OUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE
CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE
CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE SOVEREIGNTY AND TERRITORIAL
SOVEREIGNTY AND TERRITORIAL
SOVEREIGNTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OF UKRAINE.
INTEGRITY OF UKRAINE.
INTEGRITY OF UKRAINE. WE AGREED TO KEEP CONSULTING
WE AGREED TO KEEP CONSULTING
WE AGREED TO KEEP CONSULTING CLOSELY AND NUCLEAR DETERRENCE,
CLOSELY AND NUCLEAR DETERRENCE,
CLOSELY AND NUCLEAR DETERRENCE, ARMS CONTROL AND STRATEGIC
ARMS CONTROL AND STRATEGIC
ARMS CONTROL AND STRATEGIC STABILITY.
STABILITY.
STABILITY. AND THERE WAS A STRONG CONSENSUS
AND THERE WAS A STRONG CONSENSUS
AND THERE WAS A STRONG CONSENSUS IN THE ROOM AMONG THE LEADERS IN
IN THE ROOM AMONG THE LEADERS IN
IN THE ROOM AMONG THE LEADERS IN THAT MEETING ON AFGHANISTAN.
THAT MEETING ON AFGHANISTAN.
THAT MEETING ON AFGHANISTAN. OUR TROOPS ARE COMING HOME.
OUR TROOPS ARE COMING HOME.
OUR TROOPS ARE COMING HOME. BUT WE AGREED THAT OUR
BUT WE AGREED THAT OUR
BUT WE AGREED THAT OUR DIPLOMATIC, ECONOMIC AND
DIPLOMATIC, ECONOMIC AND
DIPLOMATIC, ECONOMIC AND HUMANITARIAN COMMITMENT TO THE
HUMANITARIAN COMMITMENT TO THE
HUMANITARIAN COMMITMENT TO THE AFGHAN PEOPLE AND OUR SUPPORT
AFGHAN PEOPLE AND OUR SUPPORT
AFGHAN PEOPLE AND OUR SUPPORT FOR THE AFGHAN NATIONAL DEFENSE
FOR THE AFGHAN NATIONAL DEFENSE
FOR THE AFGHAN NATIONAL DEFENSE AND SECURITY FORCES WILL ENDURE.
AND SECURITY FORCES WILL ENDURE.
AND SECURITY FORCES WILL ENDURE. AND I WELCOME OUR ALLIES AND
AND I WELCOME OUR ALLIES AND
AND I WELCOME OUR ALLIES AND PARTNERS TO RECOGNIZE THAT
PARTNERS TO RECOGNIZE THAT
PARTNERS TO RECOGNIZE THAT COUNTERTERRORISM, THE
COUNTERTERRORISM, THE
COUNTERTERRORISM, THE COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS MUST
COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS MUST
COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS MUST CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT
CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT
CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT AFGHANISTAN NEVER AGAIN BECOMES
AFGHANISTAN NEVER AGAIN BECOMES
AFGHANISTAN NEVER AGAIN BECOMES A SAFE HAVEN FOR ATTACKS ON OUR
A SAFE HAVEN FOR ATTACKS ON OUR
A SAFE HAVEN FOR ATTACKS ON OUR COUNTRIES, EVEN AS WE TAKE ON
COUNTRIES, EVEN AS WE TAKE ON
COUNTRIES, EVEN AS WE TAKE ON TERRORIST NETWORKS IN THE MIDDLE
TERRORIST NETWORKS IN THE MIDDLE
TERRORIST NETWORKS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA.
EAST AND AFRICA.
EAST AND AFRICA. AND I'M DEEPLY GRATIFIED THAT AS
AND I'M DEEPLY GRATIFIED THAT AS
AND I'M DEEPLY GRATIFIED THAT AS AN ALLIANCE WE ADOPTED
AN ALLIANCE WE ADOPTED
AN ALLIANCE WE ADOPTED FAR-REACHING PLAN TO MAKE SURE
FAR-REACHING PLAN TO MAKE SURE
FAR-REACHING PLAN TO MAKE SURE NATO CAN MAKE THE CHALLENGES
NATO CAN MAKE THE CHALLENGES
NATO CAN MAKE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE TODAY AND IN THE
THAT WE FACE TODAY AND IN THE
THAT WE FACE TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE, NOT YESTERDAY.
FUTURE, NOT YESTERDAY.
FUTURE, NOT YESTERDAY. THE NATO 2030 AGENDA.
THE NATO 2030 AGENDA.
THE NATO 2030 AGENDA. AND THAT WE AGREED TO FULLY
AND THAT WE AGREED TO FULLY
AND THAT WE AGREED TO FULLY RESOURCE THAT AGENDA.
RESOURCE THAT AGENDA.
RESOURCE THAT AGENDA. THE LAST TIME NATO PUT TOGETHER
THE LAST TIME NATO PUT TOGETHER
THE LAST TIME NATO PUT TOGETHER A STRATEGIC PLAN WAS BACK IN
A STRATEGIC PLAN WAS BACK IN
A STRATEGIC PLAN WAS BACK IN 2010, WHEN RUSSIA WAS CONSIDERED
2010, WHEN RUSSIA WAS CONSIDERED
2010, WHEN RUSSIA WAS CONSIDERED A PARTNER AND CHINA WASN'T EVEN
A PARTNER AND CHINA WASN'T EVEN
A PARTNER AND CHINA WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED.
MENTIONED.
MENTIONED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM
WE TALKED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM
WE TALKED ABOUT THE LONG-TERM SYSTEMIC CHALLENGES THAT CHINA'S
SYSTEMIC CHALLENGES THAT CHINA'S
SYSTEMIC CHALLENGES THAT CHINA'S ACTIVITIES POSE TO OUR
ACTIVITIES POSE TO OUR
ACTIVITIES POSE TO OUR COLLECTIVE SECURITY TODAY.
COLLECTIVE SECURITY TODAY.
COLLECTIVE SECURITY TODAY. WE AGREED TO DO MORE TO ENHANCE
WE AGREED TO DO MORE TO ENHANCE
WE AGREED TO DO MORE TO ENHANCE THE RESILIENCE OF OUR CRITICAL
THE RESILIENCE OF OUR CRITICAL
THE RESILIENCE OF OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES AROUND THE
INFRASTRUCTURES AROUND THE
INFRASTRUCTURES AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING TRUSTED
WORLD, INCLUDING TRUSTED
WORLD, INCLUDING TRUSTED TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVIDERS,
TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVIDERS,
TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVIDERS, SUPPLY CHAINS AND ENERGY
SUPPLY CHAINS AND ENERGY
SUPPLY CHAINS AND ENERGY NETWORKS.
NETWORKS.
NETWORKS. WE AGREED TO ENHANCE OUR
WE AGREED TO ENHANCE OUR
WE AGREED TO ENHANCE OUR COOPERATION WITH OUR DEMOCRATIC
COOPERATION WITH OUR DEMOCRATIC
COOPERATION WITH OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTNERS IN THE INDO-PACIFIC, TO
PARTNERS IN THE INDO-PACIFIC, TO
PARTNERS IN THE INDO-PACIFIC, TO MEET CHALLENGES THAT EXIST
MEET CHALLENGES THAT EXIST
MEET CHALLENGES THAT EXIST THERE.
THERE.
THERE. WE ALSO ENDORSED A NEW CYBER
WE ALSO ENDORSED A NEW CYBER
WE ALSO ENDORSED A NEW CYBER DEFENSE POLICY.
DEFENSE POLICY.
DEFENSE POLICY. NATO'S FIRST IN THE PAST SEVEN
NATO'S FIRST IN THE PAST SEVEN
NATO'S FIRST IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, TO IMPROVE THE COLLECTIVE
YEARS, TO IMPROVE THE COLLECTIVE
YEARS, TO IMPROVE THE COLLECTIVE ABILITY TO DEFEND AGAINST
ABILITY TO DEFEND AGAINST
ABILITY TO DEFEND AGAINST COUNTERTHREATS FROM STATE AND
COUNTERTHREATS FROM STATE AND
COUNTERTHREATS FROM STATE AND NON-STATE ACTORS, AGAINST OUR
NON-STATE ACTORS, AGAINST OUR
NON-STATE ACTORS, AGAINST OUR NETWORKS AND OUR CRITICAL
NETWORKS AND OUR CRITICAL
NETWORKS AND OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
INFRASTRUCTURE.
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE ADOPTED A CLIMATE
AND WE ADOPTED A CLIMATE
AND WE ADOPTED A CLIMATE SECURITY ACTION PLAN, WHICH
SECURITY ACTION PLAN, WHICH
SECURITY ACTION PLAN, WHICH SEVERAL YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT
SEVERAL YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT
SEVERAL YEARS AGO PEOPLE THOUGHT WE WOULD NEVER DO, FOR REDUCING
WE WOULD NEVER DO, FOR REDUCING
WE WOULD NEVER DO, FOR REDUCING EMISSIONS IN THE NATO
EMISSIONS IN THE NATO
EMISSIONS IN THE NATO INSTALLATIONS AND ADAPTING TO
INSTALLATIONS AND ADAPTING TO
INSTALLATIONS AND ADAPTING TO THE SECURITY RISK OF CLIMATE
THE SECURITY RISK OF CLIMATE
THE SECURITY RISK OF CLIMATE CHANGE WHILE KEEPING A VERY
CHANGE WHILE KEEPING A VERY
CHANGE WHILE KEEPING A VERY SHARP ON OUR ABILITY TO DETER
SHARP ON OUR ABILITY TO DETER
SHARP ON OUR ABILITY TO DETER AND DEFEND AGAINST THREATS.
AND DEFEND AGAINST THREATS.
AND DEFEND AGAINST THREATS. AND FINALLY WE AGREED THAT AMONG
AND FINALLY WE AGREED THAT AMONG
AND FINALLY WE AGREED THAT AMONG THE MOST IMPORTANT SHARED
THE MOST IMPORTANT SHARED
THE MOST IMPORTANT SHARED MISSIONS IS RENEWING AND
MISSIONS IS RENEWING AND
MISSIONS IS RENEWING AND STRENGTHENING THE RESILIENCE OF
STRENGTHENING THE RESILIENCE OF
STRENGTHENING THE RESILIENCE OF OUR DEMOCRACIES.
OUR DEMOCRACIES.
OUR DEMOCRACIES. I POINTED OUT WE HAVE TO PROVE
I POINTED OUT WE HAVE TO PROVE
I POINTED OUT WE HAVE TO PROVE TO THE WORLD AND OUR OWN PEOPLE
TO THE WORLD AND OUR OWN PEOPLE
TO THE WORLD AND OUR OWN PEOPLE THAT DEMOCRACY CAN STILL PREVAIL
THAT DEMOCRACY CAN STILL PREVAIL
THAT DEMOCRACY CAN STILL PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHALLENGES OF OUR
AGAINST THE CHALLENGES OF OUR
AGAINST THE CHALLENGES OF OUR TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE NEEDS
TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE NEEDS
TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.
OF OUR PEOPLE.
OF OUR PEOPLE. WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION
WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION
WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION THAT SIPHONS OFF OUR STRENGTH,
THAT SIPHONS OFF OUR STRENGTH,
THAT SIPHONS OFF OUR STRENGTH, GUARD AGAINST THOSE WHO WOULD
GUARD AGAINST THOSE WHO WOULD
GUARD AGAINST THOSE WHO WOULD STOKE HATRED AND DIVISION FOR
STOKE HATRED AND DIVISION FOR
STOKE HATRED AND DIVISION FOR POLITICAL GAIN AS PHONEY
POLITICAL GAIN AS PHONEY
POLITICAL GAIN AS PHONEY POPULISN, PROTECTING THE FREE
POPULISN, PROTECTING THE FREE
POPULISN, PROTECTING THE FREE FRESE PRESS AND INDEPENDENT
FRESE PRESS AND INDEPENDENT
FRESE PRESS AND INDEPENDENT JUDICIARIES.
JUDICIARIES.
JUDICIARIES. ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE AGENDA.
ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE AGENDA.
ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S HOW WE PROVE THAT
THAT'S HOW WE PROVE THAT
THAT'S HOW WE PROVE THAT DEMOCRACY AND OUR ALLIANCE CAN
DEMOCRACY AND OUR ALLIANCE CAN
DEMOCRACY AND OUR ALLIANCE CAN PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHALLENGES
PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHALLENGES
PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHALLENGES OF OUR TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE
OF OUR TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE
OF OUR TIME AND DELIVER FOR THE NEEDS AND THE NEEDS OF OUR
NEEDS AND THE NEEDS OF OUR
NEEDS AND THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THIS IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT 25
THIS IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT 25
THIS IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT 25 YEARS FROM NOW AS TO WHETHER OR
YEARS FROM NOW AS TO WHETHER OR
YEARS FROM NOW AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE STEPPED UP TO THE
NOT WE STEPPED UP TO THE
NOT WE STEPPED UP TO THE CHOCOLATE.
CHOCOLATE.
CHOCOLATE. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF AUTO
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF AUTO
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF AUTO CRACIES.
CRACIES.
CRACIES. AND NOW I'M HAPPY TO TAKE SOME
AND NOW I'M HAPPY TO TAKE SOME
AND NOW I'M HAPPY TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. CECILIA VEGA OF ABC.
CECILIA VEGA OF ABC.
CECILIA VEGA OF ABC. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING. YOU MENTIONED YOUR SIT-DOWN WITH
YOU MENTIONED YOUR SIT-DOWN WITH
YOU MENTIONED YOUR SIT-DOWN WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN AND RUSSIAN
VLADIMIR PUTIN AND RUSSIAN
VLADIMIR PUTIN AND RUSSIAN AGGRESSION THAT CAME UP IN YOUR
AGGRESSION THAT CAME UP IN YOUR
AGGRESSION THAT CAME UP IN YOUR CONVERSATION TODAY.
CONVERSATION TODAY.
CONVERSATION TODAY. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TWO
I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TWO
I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS IF I MAY ON THAT
QUESTIONS IF I MAY ON THAT
QUESTIONS IF I MAY ON THAT FRONT.
FRONT.
FRONT. IS IT YOUR SENSE WALKING INTO
IS IT YOUR SENSE WALKING INTO
IS IT YOUR SENSE WALKING INTO THIS MEETING THAT AMERICANS BACK
THIS MEETING THAT AMERICANS BACK
THIS MEETING THAT AMERICANS BACK HOME SHOULDN'T EXPECT MUCH IN
HOME SHOULDN'T EXPECT MUCH IN
HOME SHOULDN'T EXPECT MUCH IN TERMS OF AN OUTCOME?
TERMS OF AN OUTCOME?
TERMS OF AN OUTCOME? COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME SPECIFICS
COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME SPECIFICS
COULD YOU PROVIDE SOME SPECIFICS ON WHAT A SUCCESSFUL MEETING
ON WHAT A SUCCESSFUL MEETING
ON WHAT A SUCCESSFUL MEETING WOULD LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
WOULD LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
WOULD LOOK LIKE TO YOU? ARE THERE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC
ARE THERE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC
ARE THERE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC CONCESSIONS YOU WANT PUTIN TO
CONCESSIONS YOU WANT PUTIN TO
CONCESSIONS YOU WANT PUTIN TO MAKE?
MAKE?
MAKE? AND THEN I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY
AND THEN I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY
AND THEN I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY FOLLOW-UP RIGHT NOW.
FOLLOW-UP RIGHT NOW.
FOLLOW-UP RIGHT NOW. YOU MET VLADIMIR PUTIN BEFORE.
YOU MET VLADIMIR PUTIN BEFORE.
YOU MET VLADIMIR PUTIN BEFORE. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT HIM
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT HIM
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT HIM THAT INFORMED HOW YOU APPROACH
THAT INFORMED HOW YOU APPROACH
THAT INFORMED HOW YOU APPROACH THE SIT-DOWN WITH HIM?
THE SIT-DOWN WITH HIM?
THE SIT-DOWN WITH HIM? AND WHAT'S YOUR MINDSET WALKING
AND WHAT'S YOUR MINDSET WALKING
AND WHAT'S YOUR MINDSET WALKING INTO A MEETING WITH A FORMER KGB
INTO A MEETING WITH A FORMER KGB
INTO A MEETING WITH A FORMER KGB EIGHTH, WHO YOU SAID HAVE NO
EIGHTH, WHO YOU SAID HAVE NO
EIGHTH, WHO YOU SAID HAVE NO SOUL.
SOUL.
SOUL. >> I'LL TELL YOU ALL THAT WHEN
>> I'LL TELL YOU ALL THAT WHEN
>> I'LL TELL YOU ALL THAT WHEN IT'S OVER.
IT'S OVER.
IT'S OVER. LOOK, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A
LOOK, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A
LOOK, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.
LONG TIME.
LONG TIME. THE LAST THING ANYONE WOULD DO
THE LAST THING ANYONE WOULD DO
THE LAST THING ANYONE WOULD DO IS NEGOTIATE IN FRONT OF THE
IS NEGOTIATE IN FRONT OF THE
IS NEGOTIATE IN FRONT OF THE WORLD PRESS AS TO HOW HE IS
WORLD PRESS AS TO HOW HE IS
WORLD PRESS AS TO HOW HE IS GOING TO APPROACH A CRITICAL
GOING TO APPROACH A CRITICAL
GOING TO APPROACH A CRITICAL MEETING WITH ANOTHER ADVERSARY
MEETING WITH ANOTHER ADVERSARY
MEETING WITH ANOTHER ADVERSARY AND/OR SOMEONE WHO COULD BE AN
AND/OR SOMEONE WHO COULD BE AN
AND/OR SOMEONE WHO COULD BE AN ADVERSARY.
ADVERSARY.
ADVERSARY. IT'S THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO
IT'S THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO
IT'S THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO DO.
DO.
DO. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS. I'M GOING TO MAKE CLEAR TO
I'M GOING TO MAKE CLEAR TO
I'M GOING TO MAKE CLEAR TO PRESIDENT PUTIN THAT THERE ARE
PRESIDENT PUTIN THAT THERE ARE
PRESIDENT PUTIN THAT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE CAN COOPERATE, IF
AREAS WHERE WE CAN COOPERATE, IF
AREAS WHERE WE CAN COOPERATE, IF HE CHOOSES, AND IF HE CHOOSES
HE CHOOSES, AND IF HE CHOOSES
HE CHOOSES, AND IF HE CHOOSES NOT TO COOPERATE AND ACTS IN A
NOT TO COOPERATE AND ACTS IN A
NOT TO COOPERATE AND ACTS IN A WAY THAT HE HAS IN THE PAST
WAY THAT HE HAS IN THE PAST
WAY THAT HE HAS IN THE PAST RELATIVE TO CYBER SECURITY AND
RELATIVE TO CYBER SECURITY AND
RELATIVE TO CYBER SECURITY AND SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, THEN WE
SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, THEN WE
SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES, THEN WE WILL RESPOND.
WILL RESPOND.
WILL RESPOND. WE WILL RESPOND IN KIND.
WE WILL RESPOND IN KIND.
WE WILL RESPOND IN KIND. THERE NEED NOT BE -- WE SHOULD
THERE NEED NOT BE -- WE SHOULD
THERE NEED NOT BE -- WE SHOULD DECIDE WHERE IT'S IN OUR MUTUAL
DECIDE WHERE IT'S IN OUR MUTUAL
DECIDE WHERE IT'S IN OUR MUTUAL INTERESTS, IN THE INTERESTS OF
INTERESTS, IN THE INTERESTS OF
INTERESTS, IN THE INTERESTS OF THE WORLD TO COOPERATE.
THE WORLD TO COOPERATE.
THE WORLD TO COOPERATE. AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT.
AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT.
AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. AND THE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T
AND THE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T
AND THE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T AGREE, MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE
AGREE, MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE
AGREE, MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE RED LINES ARE.
RED LINES ARE.
RED LINES ARE. I HAVE MET WITH HIM.
I HAVE MET WITH HIM.
I HAVE MET WITH HIM. HE IS BRIGHT.
HE IS BRIGHT.
HE IS BRIGHT. HE IS TOUGH.
HE IS TOUGH.
HE IS TOUGH. AND I HAVE FOUND THAT HE IS A,
AND I HAVE FOUND THAT HE IS A,
AND I HAVE FOUND THAT HE IS A, AS THEY SAY, WHEN WE USED TO
AS THEY SAY, WHEN WE USED TO
AS THEY SAY, WHEN WE USED TO PLAY BALL, A WORTHY ADVERSARY.
PLAY BALL, A WORTHY ADVERSARY.
PLAY BALL, A WORTHY ADVERSARY. BUT THE FACT IS THAT I WILL BE
BUT THE FACT IS THAT I WILL BE
BUT THE FACT IS THAT I WILL BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU WHEN IT'S
HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU WHEN IT'S
HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU WHEN IT'S OVER, NOT BEFORE ABOUT WHAT THE
OVER, NOT BEFORE ABOUT WHAT THE
OVER, NOT BEFORE ABOUT WHAT THE DISCUSSION WILL ENTAIL.
DISCUSSION WILL ENTAIL.
DISCUSSION WILL ENTAIL. NANCY CORDES, CBS.
NANCY CORDES, CBS.
NANCY CORDES, CBS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ALSO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT
I ALSO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT
I ALSO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT VLADIMIR PUTIN.
VLADIMIR PUTIN.
VLADIMIR PUTIN. THE FIRST IS, HAVE ANY OF THE
THE FIRST IS, HAVE ANY OF THE
THE FIRST IS, HAVE ANY OF THE WORLD LEADERS YOU MET WITH THIS
WORLD LEADERS YOU MET WITH THIS
WORLD LEADERS YOU MET WITH THIS WEEK EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT BY
WEEK EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT BY
WEEK EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT BY MEETING WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN
MEETING WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN
MEETING WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN THIS EARLY IN YOUR PRESIDENCY
THIS EARLY IN YOUR PRESIDENCY
THIS EARLY IN YOUR PRESIDENCY THAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE YOU ARE
THAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE YOU ARE
THAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE YOU ARE REWARDING HIM?
REWARDING HIM?
REWARDING HIM? >> WHAT'S YOUR SECOND QUESTION?
>> WHAT'S YOUR SECOND QUESTION?
>> WHAT'S YOUR SECOND QUESTION? >> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT IT WILL MEAN FOR THE U.S.,
IT WILL MEAN FOR THE U.S.,
IT WILL MEAN FOR THE U.S., RUSSIA RELATIONSHIP IF ALEXEI
RUSSIA RELATIONSHIP IF ALEXEI
RUSSIA RELATIONSHIP IF ALEXEI NAVALNY WERE TO DIE OR BE KILLED
NAVALNY WERE TO DIE OR BE KILLED
NAVALNY WERE TO DIE OR BE KILLED IN PRISON?
IN PRISON?
IN PRISON? >> EVERY WORLD LEADER HERE AS A
>> EVERY WORLD LEADER HERE AS A
>> EVERY WORLD LEADER HERE AS A MEMBER OF NATO THAT SPOKE TODAY,
MEMBER OF NATO THAT SPOKE TODAY,
MEMBER OF NATO THAT SPOKE TODAY, AND MOST OF THEM MENTIONED IT,
AND MOST OF THEM MENTIONED IT,
AND MOST OF THEM MENTIONED IT, THANKED ME FOR MEETING WITH
THANKED ME FOR MEETING WITH
THANKED ME FOR MEETING WITH PUTIN NOW.
PUTIN NOW.
PUTIN NOW. EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT SPOKE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT SPOKE.
EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT SPOKE. AND I THINK THERE WERE PROBABLY
AND I THINK THERE WERE PROBABLY
AND I THINK THERE WERE PROBABLY ABOUT TEN OR 12 THAT SPOKE TO
ABOUT TEN OR 12 THAT SPOKE TO
ABOUT TEN OR 12 THAT SPOKE TO IT, SAYING THEY WERE HAPPY THAT
IT, SAYING THEY WERE HAPPY THAT
IT, SAYING THEY WERE HAPPY THAT I DID THAT, THAT I WAS GOING TO
I DID THAT, THAT I WAS GOING TO
I DID THAT, THAT I WAS GOING TO DO THAT.
DO THAT.
DO THAT. AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS
AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS
AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS THOROUGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT I
THOROUGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT I
THOROUGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT I DO.
DO.
DO. AND I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM
AND I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM
AND I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT -- IN THE OPEN ABOUT WHAT
ABOUT -- IN THE OPEN ABOUT WHAT
ABOUT -- IN THE OPEN ABOUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FROM
THEY THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FROM
THEY THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, AND WHAT THEY
THEIR PERSPECTIVE, AND WHAT THEY
THEIR PERSPECTIVE, AND WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS NOT IMPORTANT.
THOUGHT WAS NOT IMPORTANT.
THOUGHT WAS NOT IMPORTANT. AND SO THE INTERESTING THING IS,
AND SO THE INTERESTING THING IS,
AND SO THE INTERESTING THING IS, I KNOW -- AND I'M NOT BEING
I KNOW -- AND I'M NOT BEING
I KNOW -- AND I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF THE PRESS.
CRITICAL OF THE PRESS.
CRITICAL OF THE PRESS. I REALLY MEAN THIS.
I REALLY MEAN THIS.
I REALLY MEAN THIS. I GIVE MY WORD.
I GIVE MY WORD.
I GIVE MY WORD. BUT GENERICALLY YOU ALL THOUGHT
BUT GENERICALLY YOU ALL THOUGHT
BUT GENERICALLY YOU ALL THOUGHT IT WAS TOO SOON.
IT WAS TOO SOON.
IT WAS TOO SOON. I HAVEN'T FOUND A WORLD LEADER
I HAVEN'T FOUND A WORLD LEADER
I HAVEN'T FOUND A WORLD LEADER WHO THINKS IT'S SOON ENOUGH.
WHO THINKS IT'S SOON ENOUGH.
WHO THINKS IT'S SOON ENOUGH. EVERY ONE I SPOKE TO, PRIVATELY
EVERY ONE I SPOKE TO, PRIVATELY
EVERY ONE I SPOKE TO, PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY -- DOESN'T MEAN
AND PUBLICLY -- DOESN'T MEAN
AND PUBLICLY -- DOESN'T MEAN THERE AREN'T SOME OUT THERE --
THERE AREN'T SOME OUT THERE --
THERE AREN'T SOME OUT THERE -- BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT A HEAD
BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT A HEAD
BUT IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT A HEAD OF STATE IS GOING TO STAND UP IN
OF STATE IS GOING TO STAND UP IN
OF STATE IS GOING TO STAND UP IN FRONT OF 29 OTHER HEADS OF STATE
FRONT OF 29 OTHER HEADS OF STATE
FRONT OF 29 OTHER HEADS OF STATE AND SAY, BOY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE
AND SAY, BOY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE
AND SAY, BOY, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THIS IN EFFECT.
DOING THIS IN EFFECT.
DOING THIS IN EFFECT. SO THERE IS A CONSENSUS.
SO THERE IS A CONSENSUS.
SO THERE IS A CONSENSUS. AND THEY THANKED ME FOR BEING
AND THEY THANKED ME FOR BEING
AND THEY THANKED ME FOR BEING WILLING TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT
WILLING TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT
WILLING TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT THE MEETING AND WHAT I WAS --
THE MEETING AND WHAT I WAS --
THE MEETING AND WHAT I WAS -- WHAT I INTENDED TO DO.
WHAT I INTENDED TO DO.
WHAT I INTENDED TO DO. SO I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY -- ANY
SO I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY -- ANY
SO I HAVEN'T FOUND ANY -- ANY RELUCTANCE.
RELUCTANCE.
RELUCTANCE. THERE MAY BE SOMEONE, BUT NOT IN
THERE MAY BE SOMEONE, BUT NOT IN
THERE MAY BE SOMEONE, BUT NOT IN OPEN TODAY AND THE MEETINGS I
OPEN TODAY AND THE MEETINGS I
OPEN TODAY AND THE MEETINGS I PRIVATELY HAD AS WELL.
PRIVATELY HAD AS WELL.
PRIVATELY HAD AS WELL. AND NAVALNY'S DEATH WOULD BE
AND NAVALNY'S DEATH WOULD BE
AND NAVALNY'S DEATH WOULD BE ANOTHER INDICATION THAT RUSSIA
ANOTHER INDICATION THAT RUSSIA
ANOTHER INDICATION THAT RUSSIA HAS LITTLE OR NO INTENTIONS OF
HAS LITTLE OR NO INTENTIONS OF
HAS LITTLE OR NO INTENTIONS OF ABIDING BY BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL
ABIDING BY BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL
ABIDING BY BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS.
HUMAN RIGHTS.
HUMAN RIGHTS. IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY.
IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY.
IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY. IT WOULD DO NOTHING BUT HURT ITS
IT WOULD DO NOTHING BUT HURT ITS
IT WOULD DO NOTHING BUT HURT ITS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE REST OF
RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE REST OF
RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD, IN MY VIEW, AND WITH
THE WORLD, IN MY VIEW, AND WITH
THE WORLD, IN MY VIEW, AND WITH ME.
ME.
ME. JEFF ZELENY, CNN.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN. >> SIR, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU.
>> SIR, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU.
>> SIR, GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU. IN A WEEKEND INTERVIEW VLADIMIR
IN A WEEKEND INTERVIEW VLADIMIR
IN A WEEKEND INTERVIEW VLADIMIR PUTIN LAUGHED AT THE SUGGESTION
PUTIN LAUGHED AT THE SUGGESTION
PUTIN LAUGHED AT THE SUGGESTION THAT YOU HAD CALLED HIM A
THAT YOU HAD CALLED HIM A
THAT YOU HAD CALLED HIM A KILLER.
KILLER.
KILLER. IS THAT STILL YOUR BELIEF, SIR,
IS THAT STILL YOUR BELIEF, SIR,
IS THAT STILL YOUR BELIEF, SIR, THAT HE IS A KILLER?
THAT HE IS A KILLER?
THAT HE IS A KILLER? AND I'LL CONTINUE THE TREND IF
AND I'LL CONTINUE THE TREND IF
AND I'LL CONTINUE THE TREND IF YOU DON'T MIND OF ASKING A
YOU DON'T MIND OF ASKING A
YOU DON'T MIND OF ASKING A SECOND QUESTION.
SECOND QUESTION.
SECOND QUESTION. DO YOU BELIEVE IF HE DOES AGREE
DO YOU BELIEVE IF HE DOES AGREE
DO YOU BELIEVE IF HE DOES AGREE TO COOPERATE, THEN WHAT KIND OF
TO COOPERATE, THEN WHAT KIND OF
TO COOPERATE, THEN WHAT KIND OF A CHALLENGE DO YOU FIND YOURSELF
A CHALLENGE DO YOU FIND YOURSELF
A CHALLENGE DO YOU FIND YOURSELF IN?
IN?
IN? HOW WOULD YOU EVER TRUST HIM?
HOW WOULD YOU EVER TRUST HIM?
HOW WOULD YOU EVER TRUST HIM? AND RONALD REAGAN SAID TRUST BY
AND RONALD REAGAN SAID TRUST BY
AND RONALD REAGAN SAID TRUST BY VERIFY.
VERIFY.
VERIFY. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VLADIMIR
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VLADIMIR
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO VLADIMIR PUTIN?
PUTIN?
PUTIN? >> ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION,
>> ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION,
>> ANSWER TO THE FIRST QUESTION, I'M LAUGHING, TOO.
I'M LAUGHING, TOO.
I'M LAUGHING, TOO. THEY ACTUALLY -- WELL, LOOK, HE
THEY ACTUALLY -- WELL, LOOK, HE
THEY ACTUALLY -- WELL, LOOK, HE HAS MADE CLEAR THAT -- THE
HAS MADE CLEAR THAT -- THE
HAS MADE CLEAR THAT -- THE ANSWER IS, I BELIEVE, HE HAS IN
ANSWER IS, I BELIEVE, HE HAS IN
ANSWER IS, I BELIEVE, HE HAS IN THE PAST ESSENTIALLY
THE PAST ESSENTIALLY
THE PAST ESSENTIALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE WAS --
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE WAS --
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE WAS -- THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT
THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT
THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HE WOULD DO OR DID DO.
HE WOULD DO OR DID DO.
HE WOULD DO OR DID DO. BUT LOOK, WHEN I WAS ASKED THAT
BUT LOOK, WHEN I WAS ASKED THAT
BUT LOOK, WHEN I WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION ON AIR, I ANSWERED IT
QUESTION ON AIR, I ANSWERED IT
QUESTION ON AIR, I ANSWERED IT HONESTLY.
HONESTLY.
HONESTLY. BUT IT'S NOT MUCH OF A -- I
BUT IT'S NOT MUCH OF A -- I
BUT IT'S NOT MUCH OF A -- I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS A WHOLE
DON'T THINK IT MATTERS A WHOLE
DON'T THINK IT MATTERS A WHOLE LOT IN TERMS OF THIS NEXT
LOT IN TERMS OF THIS NEXT
LOT IN TERMS OF THIS NEXT MEETING WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE.
MEETING WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE.
MEETING WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE. THE SECOND QUESTION WAS -- I'D
THE SECOND QUESTION WAS -- I'D
THE SECOND QUESTION WAS -- I'D VERIFY FIRST AND THEN TRUST.
VERIFY FIRST AND THEN TRUST.
VERIFY FIRST AND THEN TRUST. IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYTHING WOULD
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYTHING WOULD
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE SHOWN TO BE ACTUALLY
HAVE TO BE SHOWN TO BE ACTUALLY
HAVE TO BE SHOWN TO BE ACTUALLY OCCURRING.
OCCURRING.
OCCURRING. IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRUSTING.
TRUSTING.
TRUSTING. IT'S ABOUT AGREEING, YOU KNOW,
IT'S ABOUT AGREEING, YOU KNOW,
IT'S ABOUT AGREEING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE -- WHEN YOU WRITE
WHEN WE -- WHEN YOU WRITE
WHEN WE -- WHEN YOU WRITE TREATIES WITH YOUR ADVERSARIES,
TREATIES WITH YOUR ADVERSARIES,
TREATIES WITH YOUR ADVERSARIES, YOU DON'T SAY I TRUST YOU.
YOU DON'T SAY I TRUST YOU.
YOU DON'T SAY I TRUST YOU. YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT.
YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT.
YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT. AND IF YOU VIOLATE THE AGREEMENT
AND IF YOU VIOLATE THE AGREEMENT
AND IF YOU VIOLATE THE AGREEMENT YOU MADE, THEN WE -- QUOTE, THE
YOU MADE, THEN WE -- QUOTE, THE
YOU MADE, THEN WE -- QUOTE, THE TREATY IS OFF, THE AGREEMENT IS
TREATY IS OFF, THE AGREEMENT IS
TREATY IS OFF, THE AGREEMENT IS OFF.
OFF.
OFF. AND I'M HOPING THAT -- THAT
AND I'M HOPING THAT -- THAT
AND I'M HOPING THAT -- THAT PRESIDENT PUTIN CONCLUDES THAT
PRESIDENT PUTIN CONCLUDES THAT
PRESIDENT PUTIN CONCLUDES THAT THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN TERMS
THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN TERMS
THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN TERMS OF HIS OWN INTEREST IN CHANGING
OF HIS OWN INTEREST IN CHANGING
OF HIS OWN INTEREST IN CHANGING THE PERCEPTION THAT THE WORLD
THE PERCEPTION THAT THE WORLD
THE PERCEPTION THAT THE WORLD HAS OF HIM, IN TERMS OF WHETHER
HAS OF HIM, IN TERMS OF WHETHER
HAS OF HIM, IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL ENGAGE IN
OR NOT HE WILL ENGAGE IN
OR NOT HE WILL ENGAGE IN BEHAVIOR THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT
BEHAVIOR THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT
BEHAVIOR THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE
WITH WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE
WITH WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR A HEAD
APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR A HEAD
APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR A HEAD OF STATE.
OF STATE.
OF STATE. ANNE G EVRMT RREN, “WASHINGTON
ANNE G EVRMT RREN, “WASHINGTON
ANNE G EVRMT RREN, “WASHINGTON POST”.
POST”.
POST”. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. HERE AT THIS MEETING AND EARLIER
HERE AT THIS MEETING AND EARLIER
HERE AT THIS MEETING AND EARLIER AT THE G-7 YOU SAID SEVERAL
AT THE G-7 YOU SAID SEVERAL
AT THE G-7 YOU SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT AMERICA IS BACK AT
TIMES THAT AMERICA IS BACK AT
TIMES THAT AMERICA IS BACK AT ALLIES' SIDE.
ALLIES' SIDE.
ALLIES' SIDE. BUT A LOT OF THE ALLIES ARE
BUT A LOT OF THE ALLIES ARE
BUT A LOT OF THE ALLIES ARE RATTLED BY WHAT HAPPENED ON
RATTLED BY WHAT HAPPENED ON
RATTLED BY WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th, AN ATTEMPTED
JANUARY 6th, AN ATTEMPTED
JANUARY 6th, AN ATTEMPTED OVERTURNING OF YOUR ELECTION.
OVERTURNING OF YOUR ELECTION.
OVERTURNING OF YOUR ELECTION. AND MAY STILL BE ALARMED BY THE
AND MAY STILL BE ALARMED BY THE
AND MAY STILL BE ALARMED BY THE CONTINUED HOLD THE DONALD TRUMP
CONTINUED HOLD THE DONALD TRUMP
CONTINUED HOLD THE DONALD TRUMP HAS OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
HAS OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
HAS OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND LET RISE OF NATIONALIST
AND LET RISE OF NATIONALIST
AND LET RISE OF NATIONALIST FIGURES LIKE HIM AROUND THE
FIGURES LIKE HIM AROUND THE
FIGURES LIKE HIM AROUND THE WORLD.
WORLD.
WORLD. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SAYING TO THE
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SAYING TO THE
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SAYING TO THE ALLIES AND ABOUT HOW THE NEXT
ALLIES AND ABOUT HOW THE NEXT
ALLIES AND ABOUT HOW THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CAN KEEP ANY PROMISES YOU MAKE?
CAN KEEP ANY PROMISES YOU MAKE?
CAN KEEP ANY PROMISES YOU MAKE? >> WHAT I'M SAYING TO THEM IS,
>> WHAT I'M SAYING TO THEM IS,
>> WHAT I'M SAYING TO THEM IS, WATCH ME.
WATCH ME.
WATCH ME. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO THEM, QUITE FRANKLY.
TO THEM, QUITE FRANKLY.
TO THEM, QUITE FRANKLY. I'M JUST GOING OUT -- PEOPLE AS
I'M JUST GOING OUT -- PEOPLE AS
I'M JUST GOING OUT -- PEOPLE AS I'VE SAID BEFORE DON'T DOUBT
I'VE SAID BEFORE DON'T DOUBT
I'VE SAID BEFORE DON'T DOUBT THAT I MEAN WHAT I SAY.
THAT I MEAN WHAT I SAY.
THAT I MEAN WHAT I SAY. AND THEY BELIEVE THAT I KEEP MY
AND THEY BELIEVE THAT I KEEP MY
AND THEY BELIEVE THAT I KEEP MY COMMITMENTS WHEN I SAY IT.
COMMITMENTS WHEN I SAY IT.
COMMITMENTS WHEN I SAY IT. I'M NOT MAKINGNY PROMISES TO
I'M NOT MAKINGNY PROMISES TO
I'M NOT MAKINGNY PROMISES TO ANYONE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ARE
ANYONE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ARE
ANYONE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ARE OVERWHELMINGLY LIKELY TO BE
OVERWHELMINGLY LIKELY TO BE
OVERWHELMINGLY LIKELY TO BE KEPT.
KEPT.
KEPT. LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. YOU MAY HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT
YOU MAY HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT
YOU MAY HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT VIEW.
VIEW.
VIEW. BUT I THINK AN AWFUL LOT OF
BUT I THINK AN AWFUL LOT OF
BUT I THINK AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT MY SHOWING
PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT MY SHOWING
PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT MY SHOWING UP AT THE G-7 WOULD NOT PRODUCE
UP AT THE G-7 WOULD NOT PRODUCE
UP AT THE G-7 WOULD NOT PRODUCE ANY KIND OF ENTHUSIASM ABOUT
ANY KIND OF ENTHUSIASM ABOUT
ANY KIND OF ENTHUSIASM ABOUT AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND ABOUT
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND ABOUT
AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND ABOUT WHERE AMERICA WAS.
WHERE AMERICA WAS.
WHERE AMERICA WAS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DIDN'T TURN
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DIDN'T TURN
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY.
OUT THAT WAY.
OUT THAT WAY. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE IS
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE IS
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE IS A -- THE LEADERS I'M DEALING
A -- THE LEADERS I'M DEALING
A -- THE LEADERS I'M DEALING WITH IN NATO AND THE G-7 ARE
WITH IN NATO AND THE G-7 ARE
WITH IN NATO AND THE G-7 ARE LEADERS WHO KNOW OUR RECENT
LEADERS WHO KNOW OUR RECENT
LEADERS WHO KNOW OUR RECENT HISTORY, KNOW GENERICALLY THE
HISTORY, KNOW GENERICALLY THE
HISTORY, KNOW GENERICALLY THE CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN
CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN
CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND KNOW WHERE THE VAST
PEOPLE, AND KNOW WHERE THE VAST
PEOPLE, AND KNOW WHERE THE VAST CENTER OF THE PUBLIC STANDS, NOT
CENTER OF THE PUBLIC STANDS, NOT
CENTER OF THE PUBLIC STANDS, NOT DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, BUT WHO WE
DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, BUT WHO WE
DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, BUT WHO WE ARE, WE'RE A DECENT HONORABLE
ARE, WE'RE A DECENT HONORABLE
ARE, WE'RE A DECENT HONORABLE NATION.
NATION.
NATION. AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE SEEN
AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE SEEN
AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE SEEN THINGS HAPPEN, AS WE HAVE, THAT
THINGS HAPPEN, AS WE HAVE, THAT
THINGS HAPPEN, AS WE HAVE, THAT SHOCKED THEM AND SURPRISED THEM,
SHOCKED THEM AND SURPRISED THEM,
SHOCKED THEM AND SURPRISED THEM, THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. BUT I THINK THEY, LIKE I DO,
BUT I THINK THEY, LIKE I DO,
BUT I THINK THEY, LIKE I DO, BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO SUSTAIN THAT KIND
NOT GOING TO SUSTAIN THAT KIND
NOT GOING TO SUSTAIN THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR.
OF BEHAVIOR.
OF BEHAVIOR. AND SO I -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T
AND SO I -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T
AND SO I -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE STATISTICS,
WANT TO GET INTO THE STATISTICS,
WANT TO GET INTO THE STATISTICS, BECAUSE THAT OLD PHRASE
BECAUSE THAT OLD PHRASE
BECAUSE THAT OLD PHRASE DISRAELI, THREE KINDS OF LIES,
DISRAELI, THREE KINDS OF LIES,
DISRAELI, THREE KINDS OF LIES, LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS.
LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS.
LIES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS. BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO
BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO
BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO SAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
SAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
SAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS VASTLY DIMINISHED IN NUMBERS.
VASTLY DIMINISHED IN NUMBERS.
VASTLY DIMINISHED IN NUMBERS. THE LEADERSHIP OF THE REPUBLICAN
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE REPUBLICAN
THE LEADERSHIP OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS FRACTURED.
PARTY IS FRACTURED.
PARTY IS FRACTURED. AND THE TRUMP WING OF THE PARTY
AND THE TRUMP WING OF THE PARTY
AND THE TRUMP WING OF THE PARTY IS THE BULK OF THE PARTY.
IS THE BULK OF THE PARTY.
IS THE BULK OF THE PARTY. BUT IT MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT
BUT IT MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT
BUT IT MAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
MINORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
MINORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND WE'LL SEE.
AND WE'LL SEE.
AND WE'LL SEE. WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL SEE.
WE'LL SEE. I BELIEVE THAT BY US STANDING UP
I BELIEVE THAT BY US STANDING UP
I BELIEVE THAT BY US STANDING UP AND SAYING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE
AND SAYING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE
AND SAYING WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE, NOT ENGAGING IN THE
THE CASE, NOT ENGAGING IN THE
THE CASE, NOT ENGAGING IN THE OVERWHELMING HYPERBOLE THAT GETS
OVERWHELMING HYPERBOLE THAT GETS
OVERWHELMING HYPERBOLE THAT GETS ENGAGED IN BY SO MANY TODAY,
ENGAGED IN BY SO MANY TODAY,
ENGAGED IN BY SO MANY TODAY, THAT WE -- I GUESS THAT OLD
THAT WE -- I GUESS THAT OLD
THAT WE -- I GUESS THAT OLD EXPRESSION, THE PROOF OF THE PUD
EXPRESSION, THE PROOF OF THE PUD
EXPRESSION, THE PROOF OF THE PUD SOMETHING IN THE EATING.
SOMETHING IN THE EATING.
SOMETHING IN THE EATING. WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO DEAL
WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO DEAL
WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO DEAL WITH BEATING THE VIRUS, I WAS
WITH BEATING THE VIRUS, I WAS
WITH BEATING THE VIRUS, I WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AND GET
GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AND GET
GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AND GET MILLIONS OF SHOTS IN PEOPLE'S
MILLIONS OF SHOTS IN PEOPLE'S
MILLIONS OF SHOTS IN PEOPLE'S ARMS.
ARMS.
ARMS. IT WASN'T ME.
IT WASN'T ME.
IT WASN'T ME. I JUST KNEW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I JUST KNEW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I JUST KNEW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I KNEW THE KIND OF HELP I'D GET
I KNEW THE KIND OF HELP I'D GET
I KNEW THE KIND OF HELP I'D GET FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT,
FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT,
FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, FROM POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FROM
FROM POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FROM
FROM POLICE DEPARTMENTS, FROM THE HOSPITALS, FROM RETIRED
THE HOSPITALS, FROM RETIRED
THE HOSPITALS, FROM RETIRED DOCS.
DOCS.
DOCS. I JUST KNEW.
I JUST KNEW.
I JUST KNEW. AND LOOK HOW RAPIDLY WE MOVED.
AND LOOK HOW RAPIDLY WE MOVED.
AND LOOK HOW RAPIDLY WE MOVED. NOW WE HAVE ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE
NOW WE HAVE ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE
NOW WE HAVE ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO EVERYTHING FROM THE
WHO EVERYTHING FROM THE
WHO EVERYTHING FROM THE POLITICAL REJECTION OF THE
POLITICAL REJECTION OF THE
POLITICAL REJECTION OF THE NOTION OF TAKING THE VACCINE, TO
NOTION OF TAKING THE VACCINE, TO
NOTION OF TAKING THE VACCINE, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY AFRAID OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY AFRAID OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE SIMPLY AFRAID OF A NEEDLE AND EVERYTHING IN
A NEEDLE AND EVERYTHING IN
A NEEDLE AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
BETWEEN.
BETWEEN. AND WE HAVE A WAY TO GO.
AND WE HAVE A WAY TO GO.
AND WE HAVE A WAY TO GO. BUT I NEVER DOUBTED THAT WE
BUT I NEVER DOUBTED THAT WE
BUT I NEVER DOUBTED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE
WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE
WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE KIND OF SUPPORT WE GOT AND GET
KIND OF SUPPORT WE GOT AND GET
KIND OF SUPPORT WE GOT AND GET SO MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE STEP
SO MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE STEP
SO MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE STEP UP AND GET VACCINATED.
UP AND GET VACCINATED.
UP AND GET VACCINATED. SO I THINK IT IS A SHOCK AND
SO I THINK IT IS A SHOCK AND
SO I THINK IT IS A SHOCK AND SURPRISE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN
SURPRISE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN
SURPRISE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN TERMS OF THE CONSEQUENCE OF
TERMS OF THE CONSEQUENCE OF
TERMS OF THE CONSEQUENCE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PHONEY
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PHONEY
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PHONEY POPULISM HAS HAPPENED.
POPULISM HAS HAPPENED.
POPULISM HAS HAPPENED. AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT SO
AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT SO
AND IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT SO MANY OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
MANY OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
MANY OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE WHO I KNOW KNOW
IN THE SENATE WHO I KNOW KNOW
IN THE SENATE WHO I KNOW KNOW BETTER HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO
BETTER HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO
BETTER HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO TAKE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, AN
TAKE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, AN
TAKE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE
INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT BEING PRIMARIED.
WORRIED ABOUT BEING PRIMARIED.
WORRIED ABOUT BEING PRIMARIED. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BEEF
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BEEF
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BEEF BEEN THROUGH PERIODS LIKE THIS
BEEN THROUGH PERIODS LIKE THIS
BEEN THROUGH PERIODS LIKE THIS IN AMERICAN HISTORY BEFORE,
IN AMERICAN HISTORY BEFORE,
IN AMERICAN HISTORY BEFORE, WHERE THERE HAS BEEN THIS
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN THIS
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN THIS RELUCTANCE TO TAKE A CHANCE ON
RELUCTANCE TO TAKE A CHANCE ON
RELUCTANCE TO TAKE A CHANCE ON RE-ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE
RE-ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE
RE-ELECTION BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF YOUR PARTIES' POLITICS
NATURE OF YOUR PARTIES' POLITICS
NATURE OF YOUR PARTIES' POLITICS AT THE MOMENT.
AT THE MOMENT.
AT THE MOMENT. I THINK THIS IS PASSING, I DON'T
I THINK THIS IS PASSING, I DON'T
I THINK THIS IS PASSING, I DON'T MEAN EASILY PASSING.
MEAN EASILY PASSING.
MEAN EASILY PASSING. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT I SUCCEED IN MY AGENDA, THE
THAT I SUCCEED IN MY AGENDA, THE
THAT I SUCCEED IN MY AGENDA, THE AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S DEALING
AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S DEALING
AGENDA, WHETHER IT'S DEALING WITH THE VACCINE, THE ECONOMY,
WITH THE VACCINE, THE ECONOMY,
WITH THE VACCINE, THE ECONOMY, INFRASTRUCTURE.
INFRASTRUCTURE.
INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DEMONSTRATE WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS
DEMONSTRATE WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS
DEMONSTRATE WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS AND CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS.
AND CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS.
AND CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
ABLE TO DO THAT.
ABLE TO DO THAT. SO, AS I SAID, THE PROOF WILL BE
SO, AS I SAID, THE PROOF WILL BE
SO, AS I SAID, THE PROOF WILL BE IN WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, SIX
IN WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, SIX
IN WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, WHERE WE ARE.
MONTHS FROM NOW, WHERE WE ARE.
MONTHS FROM NOW, WHERE WE ARE. BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THERE IS -- THAT, GOD
THAT THERE IS -- THAT, GOD
THAT THERE IS -- THAT, GOD WILLING, WE ARE GOING TO BE
WILLING, WE ARE GOING TO BE
WILLING, WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING PROGRESS.
MAKING PROGRESS.
MAKING PROGRESS. AND THERE IS A COALESCING OF A
AND THERE IS A COALESCING OF A
AND THERE IS A COALESCING OF A LOT OF REPUBLICANS, PARTICULARLY
LOT OF REPUBLICANS, PARTICULARLY
LOT OF REPUBLICANS, PARTICULARLY YOUNGER REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
YOUNGER REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
YOUNGER REPUBLICANS WHO ARE COMING UP IN THE PARTY.
COMING UP IN THE PARTY.
COMING UP IN THE PARTY. AND THE LAST QUESTION, SEBASTIAN
AND THE LAST QUESTION, SEBASTIAN
AND THE LAST QUESTION, SEBASTIAN SMITH OF AFP.
SMITH OF AFP.
SMITH OF AFP. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UKRAINE WANTS A CLEAR YES OR NO
UKRAINE WANTS A CLEAR YES OR NO
UKRAINE WANTS A CLEAR YES OR NO ON GETTING INTO THE NATO
ON GETTING INTO THE NATO
ON GETTING INTO THE NATO MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN.
MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN.
MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLAN. SO WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER?
SO WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER?
SO WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER? AND IF I MAY A SECOND PART TO
AND IF I MAY A SECOND PART TO
AND IF I MAY A SECOND PART TO THE SAME QUESTION.
THE SAME QUESTION.
THE SAME QUESTION. NOW THAT RUSSIA INVADED PARTS OF
NOW THAT RUSSIA INVADED PARTS OF
NOW THAT RUSSIA INVADED PARTS OF UKRAINE, DOES THAT EFFECTIVELY
UKRAINE, DOES THAT EFFECTIVELY
UKRAINE, DOES THAT EFFECTIVELY RULE OUT UKRAINE EVER ENTERING
RULE OUT UKRAINE EVER ENTERING
RULE OUT UKRAINE EVER ENTERING NATO, GIVEN THAT BEING IN NATO
NATO, GIVEN THAT BEING IN NATO
NATO, GIVEN THAT BEING IN NATO WOULD MEAN THE U.S. AND NATO
WOULD MEAN THE U.S. AND NATO
WOULD MEAN THE U.S. AND NATO HAVING TO DEFEND UKRAINIANS
HAVING TO DEFEND UKRAINIANS
HAVING TO DEFEND UKRAINIANS AGAINST RUSSIA?
AGAINST RUSSIA?
AGAINST RUSSIA? >> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, THE
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, THE
>> THE SECOND QUESTION IS, THE ANSWER IS NO.
ANSWER IS NO.
ANSWER IS NO. THE FIRST QUESTION, IT DEPENDS
THE FIRST QUESTION, IT DEPENDS
THE FIRST QUESTION, IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THEY MEET THE
ON WHETHER THEY MEET THE
ON WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA.
CRITERIA.
CRITERIA. THE FACT IS, THEY STILL HAVE
THE FACT IS, THEY STILL HAVE
THE FACT IS, THEY STILL HAVE CLEAN UP CORRUPTION, MEET OTHER
CLEAN UP CORRUPTION, MEET OTHER
CLEAN UP CORRUPTION, MEET OTHER CRITERIA TO GET INTO THE ACTION
CRITERIA TO GET INTO THE ACTION
CRITERIA TO GET INTO THE ACTION PLAN.
PLAN.
PLAN. AND SO IT'S -- SCHOOL IS OUT ON
AND SO IT'S -- SCHOOL IS OUT ON
AND SO IT'S -- SCHOOL IS OUT ON THAT QUESTION.
THAT QUESTION.
THAT QUESTION. IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL DO ALL
IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL DO ALL
IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO PUT UKRAINE IN A
WE CAN TO PUT UKRAINE IN A
WE CAN TO PUT UKRAINE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE
POSITION TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE
POSITION TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO RESIST RUSSIAN PHYSICAL
TO RESIST RUSSIAN PHYSICAL
TO RESIST RUSSIAN PHYSICAL AGGRESSION.
AGGRESSION.
AGGRESSION. AND IT WILL NOT JUST DEPEND ON
AND IT WILL NOT JUST DEPEND ON
AND IT WILL NOT JUST DEPEND ON ME WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN
ME WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN
ME WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT UKRAINE CAN BECOME
CONCLUDE THAT UKRAINE CAN BECOME
CONCLUDE THAT UKRAINE CAN BECOME PART OF NATO.
PART OF NATO.
PART OF NATO. IT WILL DEPEND ON THE ALLIANCE
IT WILL DEPEND ON THE ALLIANCE
IT WILL DEPEND ON THE ALLIANCE AND HOW THEY VOTE.
AND HOW THEY VOTE.
AND HOW THEY VOTE. BUT I KNOW FOR ONE THING, THERE
BUT I KNOW FOR ONE THING, THERE
BUT I KNOW FOR ONE THING, THERE HAS TO BE -- THEY HAVE TO
HAS TO BE -- THEY HAVE TO
HAS TO BE -- THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE -- AND IT'S NOT EASY.
CONVINCE -- AND IT'S NOT EASY.
CONVINCE -- AND IT'S NOT EASY. I MADE A SPEECH YEARS AGO TO THE
I MADE A SPEECH YEARS AGO TO THE
I MADE A SPEECH YEARS AGO TO THE RATA, THAT THE UKRAINE HAD AN
RATA, THAT THE UKRAINE HAD AN
RATA, THAT THE UKRAINE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT NEVER OCCURRED IN THE HISTORY OF
NEVER OCCURRED IN THE HISTORY OF
NEVER OCCURRED IN THE HISTORY OF UKRAINE, ACTUALLY GENERATE
UKRAINE, ACTUALLY GENERATE
UKRAINE, ACTUALLY GENERATE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED AND NOT
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED AND NOT
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED AND NOT RED LED BY A CORRUPT OLIGARCHY.
RED LED BY A CORRUPT OLIGARCHY.
RED LED BY A CORRUPT OLIGARCHY. AND I POINTED OUT WHEN HE MAID
AND I POINTED OUT WHEN HE MAID
AND I POINTED OUT WHEN HE MAID THAT SPEECH THEY WILL GO DOWN IN
THAT SPEECH THEY WILL GO DOWN IN
THAT SPEECH THEY WILL GO DOWN IN MYSTERY AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS
MYSTERY AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS
MYSTERY AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS OF UKRAINE IF THEY DO THAT.
OF UKRAINE IF THEY DO THAT.
OF UKRAINE IF THEY DO THAT. THEY HAVE MORE TO DO.
THEY HAVE MORE TO DO.
THEY HAVE MORE TO DO. BUT IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE FACT
BUT IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE FACT
BUT IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE MORE TO DO RUSSIA
THAT THEY HAVE MORE TO DO RUSSIA
THAT THEY HAVE MORE TO DO RUSSIA TAKING AGGRESSIVE ACTION EITHER
TAKING AGGRESSIVE ACTION EITHER
TAKING AGGRESSIVE ACTION EITHER IN THE DUNBAS OR ON THE SEA OR
IN THE DUNBAS OR ON THE SEA OR
IN THE DUNBAS OR ON THE SEA OR IN ANY PART OF UKRAINE.
IN ANY PART OF UKRAINE.
IN ANY PART OF UKRAINE. AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT UKRAINE
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT UKRAINE
AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT UKRAINE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO
IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO
IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PHYSICAL
MAINTAIN THEIR PHYSICAL
MAINTAIN THEIR PHYSICAL SECURITY.
SECURITY.
SECURITY. THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. SORRY YOU'RE ALL HERE SO LATE.
SORRY YOU'RE ALL HERE SO LATE.
SORRY YOU'RE ALL HERE SO LATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN SPEAKING TO
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN SPEAKING TO
>> PRESIDENT BIDEN SPEAKING TO REPORTERS THERE IN BRUSSELS AT
REPORTERS THERE IN BRUSSELS AT
REPORTERS THERE IN BRUSSELS AT THE END OF THE NATO MEETINGS,
THE END OF THE NATO MEETINGS,
THE END OF THE NATO MEETINGS, CALLING IT A VERY PRODUCTIVE
CALLING IT A VERY PRODUCTIVE
CALLING IT A VERY PRODUCTIVE DAY, AS HE MET WITH LEADERS FROM
DAY, AS HE MET WITH LEADERS FROM
DAY, AS HE MET WITH LEADERS FROM VARIOUS NATO COUNTRIES SAYING
VARIOUS NATO COUNTRIES SAYING
VARIOUS NATO COUNTRIES SAYING THE RELATIONSHIP IS ROCK SOLID,
THE RELATIONSHIP IS ROCK SOLID,
THE RELATIONSHIP IS ROCK SOLID, THIS TRIP REALLY SEEN IN THE
THIS TRIP REALLY SEEN IN THE
THIS TRIP REALLY SEEN IN THE LIGHT OF THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO
LIGHT OF THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO
LIGHT OF THE PRESIDENT TRYING TO CONTINUE TO CONVEY THIS IDEA
CONTINUE TO CONVEY THIS IDEA
CONTINUE TO CONVEY THIS IDEA THAT AMERICA IS BACK, THAT THESE
THAT AMERICA IS BACK, THAT THESE
THAT AMERICA IS BACK, THAT THESE RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOW VALUED BY
RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOW VALUED BY
RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOW VALUED BY THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. I WANT TO GO TO A CHIEF FOREIGN
I WANT TO GO TO A CHIEF FOREIGN
I WANT TO GO TO A CHIEF FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT ANDREA
AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT ANDREA
AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT ANDREA MITCHELL FOR US ALSO IN
MITCHELL FOR US ALSO IN
MITCHELL FOR US ALSO IN BRUSSELS.
BRUSSELS.
BRUSSELS. ANDREA, WHAT STOOD OUT FOR YOU?
ANDREA, WHAT STOOD OUT FOR YOU?
>> Reporter: THE FACT THAT THE
>> Reporter: THE FACT THAT THE
>> Reporter: THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS FORCEFUL.
PRESIDENT WAS FORCEFUL.
PRESIDENT WAS FORCEFUL. EARLIER HE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH
EARLIER HE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH
EARLIER HE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE NATO SECRETARY GENERAL
THE NATO SECRETARY GENERAL
THE NATO SECRETARY GENERAL SITTING IN ARM CHAIRS, I THINK
SITTING IN ARM CHAIRS, I THINK
SITTING IN ARM CHAIRS, I THINK THEY WANTED TO PROJECT THE
THEY WANTED TO PROJECT THE
THEY WANTED TO PROJECT THE STRENGTH OF THE COMMITMENTS HE
STRENGTH OF THE COMMITMENTS HE
STRENGTH OF THE COMMITMENTS HE DID GET IN THE COMMUNIQUE WITH
DID GET IN THE COMMUNIQUE WITH
DID GET IN THE COMMUNIQUE WITH STRONG STATEMENTS AGAINST
STRONG STATEMENTS AGAINST
STRONG STATEMENTS AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, STRONG
RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, STRONG
RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, STRONG STATEMENTS ABOUT CHINA, WHICH
STATEMENTS ABOUT CHINA, WHICH
STATEMENTS ABOUT CHINA, WHICH ARE HISTORIC.
ARE HISTORIC.
ARE HISTORIC. THEY'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE
THEY'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE
THEY'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE, IN TERMS OF TALKING
THAT BEFORE, IN TERMS OF TALKING
THAT BEFORE, IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT CHINA AS A MILITARY
ABOUT CHINA AS A MILITARY
ABOUT CHINA AS A MILITARY THREAT.
THREAT.
THREAT. I THINK HE IS PLEASED WITH THAT.
I THINK HE IS PLEASED WITH THAT.
I THINK HE IS PLEASED WITH THAT. AND HE WAS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT
AND HE WAS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT
AND HE WAS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT NOT PREDICTING WHAT'S HAPPENING
NOT PREDICTING WHAT'S HAPPENING
NOT PREDICTING WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN.
WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN.
WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. HE IS AVOIDING ANY QUESTIONS
HE IS AVOIDING ANY QUESTIONS
HE IS AVOIDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT GO BACK TO SOME OF THE
THAT GO BACK TO SOME OF THE
THAT GO BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID IN THE PAST ABOUT
THINGS HE SAID IN THE PAST ABOUT
THINGS HE SAID IN THE PAST ABOUT PUTIN BEING A KILLER.
PUTIN BEING A KILLER.
PUTIN BEING A KILLER. HE IS AVOIDING ANY OF THAT,
HE IS AVOIDING ANY OF THAT,
HE IS AVOIDING ANY OF THAT, WANTS TO GIVE THE CHANCE TO THIS
WANTS TO GIVE THE CHANCE TO THIS
WANTS TO GIVE THE CHANCE TO THIS SUMMIT ON WEDNESDAY IN GENEVA,
SUMMIT ON WEDNESDAY IN GENEVA,
SUMMIT ON WEDNESDAY IN GENEVA, TO WORK, TO BE PRODUCTIVE, BUT
TO WORK, TO BE PRODUCTIVE, BUT
TO WORK, TO BE PRODUCTIVE, BUT ALSO SAYING HE WILL BE TOUGH AND
ALSO SAYING HE WILL BE TOUGH AND
ALSO SAYING HE WILL BE TOUGH AND STAND UP AGAINST RUSSIAN
STAND UP AGAINST RUSSIAN
STAND UP AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, DRAWING A REAL HARD
AGGRESSION, DRAWING A REAL HARD
AGGRESSION, DRAWING A REAL HARD LINE ON THAT AND SENDING A
LINE ON THAT AND SENDING A
LINE ON THAT AND SENDING A SIGNAL TO PUTIN ESPECIALLY AFTER
SIGNAL TO PUTIN ESPECIALLY AFTER
SIGNAL TO PUTIN ESPECIALLY AFTER THE EXTENSIVE 90-MINUTE
THE EXTENSIVE 90-MINUTE
THE EXTENSIVE 90-MINUTE INTERVIEW WITH OUR OWN KEIR
INTERVIEW WITH OUR OWN KEIR
INTERVIEW WITH OUR OWN KEIR SIMMONS WHERE PUTIN DID NOT BACK
SIMMONS WHERE PUTIN DID NOT BACK
SIMMONS WHERE PUTIN DID NOT BACK DOWN ON RECENT AGGRESSION.
DOWN ON RECENT AGGRESSION.
DOWN ON RECENT AGGRESSION. >> LET ME BRING IN NATIONAL
>> LET ME BRING IN NATIONAL
>> LET ME BRING IN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST JEREMY BASH.
SECURITY ANALYST JEREMY BASH.
SECURITY ANALYST JEREMY BASH. AND JEREMY, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT
AND JEREMY, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT
AND JEREMY, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT WE SEE THIS -- THIS
THAT WE SEE THIS -- THIS
THAT WE SEE THIS -- THIS APPARENT UNITY NOW IN NATO, THIS
APPARENT UNITY NOW IN NATO, THIS
APPARENT UNITY NOW IN NATO, THIS SENSE OF REINVIG RATION THAT THE
SENSE OF REINVIG RATION THAT THE
SENSE OF REINVIG RATION THAT THE PRESIDENT BRINGS TOMAHAWK TO
PRESIDENT BRINGS TOMAHAWK TO
PRESIDENT BRINGS TOMAHAWK TO VLADIMIR PUTIN?
VLADIMIR PUTIN?
VLADIMIR PUTIN? >> WELL, THIS ALLIANCE, THIS
>> WELL, THIS ALLIANCE, THIS
>> WELL, THIS ALLIANCE, THIS MILITARY ALLIANCE IS BACK AND
MILITARY ALLIANCE IS BACK AND
MILITARY ALLIANCE IS BACK AND STRONGER THAN EVER.
STRONGER THAN EVER.
STRONGER THAN EVER. I GOT TO SAY, LESTER YB JOE
I GOT TO SAY, LESTER YB JOE
I GOT TO SAY, LESTER YB JOE BIDEN IS IN HIS COMFORT ZONE.
BIDEN IS IN HIS COMFORT ZONE.
BIDEN IS IN HIS COMFORT ZONE. HE HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS
HE HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS
HE HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS MOMENT ABOUT A QUARTER CENTURY,
MOMENT ABOUT A QUARTER CENTURY,
MOMENT ABOUT A QUARTER CENTURY, NOT ONLY AS CHAD COMMANDER IN
NOT ONLY AS CHAD COMMANDER IN
NOT ONLY AS CHAD COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES
CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES
CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY HE IS COMMANDER IN
MILITARY HE IS COMMANDER IN
MILITARY HE IS COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF A 30-NATION MILITARY
CHIEF OF A 30-NATION MILITARY
CHIEF OF A 30-NATION MILITARY ALLIANCE.
ALLIANCE.
ALLIANCE. DEZZED TO CONFRONT
DEZZED TO CONFRONT
DEZZED TO CONFRONT COUNTERTERRORISM.
COUNTERTERRORISM.
COUNTERTERRORISM. AS ANDREA KNOWS EVEN CONFRONT
AS ANDREA KNOWS EVEN CONFRONT
AS ANDREA KNOWS EVEN CONFRONT AUTHORITIES LIKE CHINA.
AUTHORITIES LIKE CHINA.
AUTHORITIES LIKE CHINA. AND WELCOMING TWO CONTRACTS THIS
AND WELCOMING TWO CONTRACTS THIS
AND WELCOMING TWO CONTRACTS THIS WEEK.
WEEK.
WEEK. ONE IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE
ONE IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE
ONE IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE PREDECESSOR SHUNNED BY THE A I
PREDECESSOR SHUNNED BY THE A I
PREDECESSOR SHUNNED BY THE A I LOO LINES AND COULD YOU TO YOUED
LOO LINES AND COULD YOU TO YOUED
LOO LINES AND COULD YOU TO YOUED TO PUTIN.
TO PUTIN.
TO PUTIN. HE LIKES THE ALLIANCE OF
HE LIKES THE ALLIANCE OF
HE LIKES THE ALLIANCE OF DEMOCRACIES KORCHING CHINA AND
DEMOCRACIES KORCHING CHINA AND
DEMOCRACIES KORCHING CHINA AND RUSSIA.
RUSSIA.
RUSSIA. >> I WANT TO GO TO KEIR SIMMONS
>> I WANT TO GO TO KEIR SIMMONS
>> I WANT TO GO TO KEIR SIMMONS AS WE KNOW SAT DOWN WITH
AS WE KNOW SAT DOWN WITH
AS WE KNOW SAT DOWN WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR A INTERVIEW
VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR A INTERVIEW
VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR A INTERVIEW DISCUSSING THE TOPICS,
DISCUSSING THE TOPICS,
DISCUSSING THE TOPICS, CYBERATTACKS.
CYBERATTACKS.
CYBERATTACKS. KEIR, YOU CONFRONTED PRESIDENT
KEIR, YOU CONFRONTED PRESIDENT
KEIR, YOU CONFRONTED PRESIDENT PUTIN OH ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
PUTIN OH ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
PUTIN OH ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S WORDS THAT HE WAS A KILLER.
WORDS THAT HE WAS A KILLER.
WORDS THAT HE WAS A KILLER. THE PRESIDENT DECLINED TO
THE PRESIDENT DECLINED TO
THE PRESIDENT DECLINED TO COMMENT ON THAT TODAY.
COMMENT ON THAT TODAY.
COMMENT ON THAT TODAY. BUT WHAT WAS PUTIN'S REACTION TO
BUT WHAT WAS PUTIN'S REACTION TO
BUT WHAT WAS PUTIN'S REACTION TO THAT.
THAT.
THAT. >> LESTER, I THINK THAT INSIDE
>> LESTER, I THINK THAT INSIDE
>> LESTER, I THINK THAT INSIDE THE KREMLIN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE KREMLIN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE KREMLIN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE NEWS CONFERENCE
WATCHING THE NEWS CONFERENCE
WATCHING THE NEWS CONFERENCE BECAUSE BOTH SIDES, IF YOU WANT
BECAUSE BOTH SIDES, IF YOU WANT
BECAUSE BOTH SIDES, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT WAY WILL BE
TO PUT IT THAT WAY WILL BE
TO PUT IT THAT WAY WILL BE TRYING TO GET IDEAS HOW THEY
TRYING TO GET IDEAS HOW THEY
TRYING TO GET IDEAS HOW THEY WANT TO HANDLE THIS UPCOMING
WANT TO HANDLE THIS UPCOMING
WANT TO HANDLE THIS UPCOMING SUMMIT.
SUMMIT.
SUMMIT. I'M NOT SURPRISED PRESIDENT
I'M NOT SURPRISED PRESIDENT
I'M NOT SURPRISED PRESIDENT BIDEN DIDN'T WANT TO REPEAT THE
BIDEN DIDN'T WANT TO REPEAT THE
BIDEN DIDN'T WANT TO REPEAT THE ALLEGATIONS, AS YOU SAW, WE
ALLEGATIONS, AS YOU SAW, WE
ALLEGATIONS, AS YOU SAW, WE CONFRONTED PRESIDENT PUTIN WITH
CONFRONTED PRESIDENT PUTIN WITH
CONFRONTED PRESIDENT PUTIN WITH THAT CLAIM THAT HE IS A KILLER.
THAT CLAIM THAT HE IS A KILLER.
THAT CLAIM THAT HE IS A KILLER. AND HE JUST LAUGHED IT OFF.
AND HE JUST LAUGHED IT OFF.
AND HE JUST LAUGHED IT OFF. IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE THE
IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE THE
IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE THE CONVERSATION GOES FROM THERE.
CONVERSATION GOES FROM THERE.
CONVERSATION GOES FROM THERE. THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IN
THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IN
THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IN A SENSE WAS SAYING.
A SENSE WAS SAYING.
A SENSE WAS SAYING. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SEE.
I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SEE.
I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SEE. AND HERE IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT.
AND HERE IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT.
AND HERE IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE PRESIDENT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE PRESIDENT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE PRESIDENT BIDEN RESPOND TO THE QUESTION
BIDEN RESPOND TO THE QUESTION
BIDEN RESPOND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT ALEXEI NAVALNY AND URGE
ABOUT ALEXEI NAVALNY AND URGE
ABOUT ALEXEI NAVALNY AND URGE PRESIDENT PUTIN TO SEE THAT
PRESIDENT PUTIN TO SEE THAT
PRESIDENT PUTIN TO SEE THAT NAVALLY DOES NOT DIE IN PRISON.
NAVALLY DOES NOT DIE IN PRISON.
NAVALLY DOES NOT DIE IN PRISON. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU'LL
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU'LL
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT
SEE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT
SEE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT DEALING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN ON
DEALING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN ON
DEALING WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN ON EACH ISSUE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
EACH ISSUE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
EACH ISSUE IN A DIFFERENT WAY. ONE STEP AT A TIME IF YOU LIKE.
ONE STEP AT A TIME IF YOU LIKE.
ONE STEP AT A TIME IF YOU LIKE. I THINK THAT IN BOTH CASES, BOTH
I THINK THAT IN BOTH CASES, BOTH
I THINK THAT IN BOTH CASES, BOTH THE CASE OF PRESIDENT PUTIN,
THE CASE OF PRESIDENT PUTIN,
THE CASE OF PRESIDENT PUTIN, THOUGH OUTSPOKEN IN MY INTERVIEW
THOUGH OUTSPOKEN IN MY INTERVIEW
THOUGH OUTSPOKEN IN MY INTERVIEW AT TIMES AND IN THE CASE OF
AT TIMES AND IN THE CASE OF
AT TIMES AND IN THE CASE OF PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU ARE SEEING
PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU ARE SEEING
PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU ARE SEEING TWO MEN BEING CAUTIOUS, WAITING
TWO MEN BEING CAUTIOUS, WAITING
TWO MEN BEING CAUTIOUS, WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ROOM,
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ROOM,
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE ROOM, KNOWING THIS RELATIONSHIP CAN
KNOWING THIS RELATIONSHIP CAN
KNOWING THIS RELATIONSHIP CAN PLAY OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
PLAY OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
PLAY OUT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. LESTER.
LESTER.
LESTER. >> AND KEIR, WE SAW PRESIDENT
>> AND KEIR, WE SAW PRESIDENT
>> AND KEIR, WE SAW PRESIDENT BIDEN DECLINING TO GET INTO THE
BIDEN DECLINING TO GET INTO THE
BIDEN DECLINING TO GET INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF WHAT HE WANTS TO
NITTY-GRITTY OF WHAT HE WANTS TO
NITTY-GRITTY OF WHAT HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT OR HOW HE APPROACHES
TALK ABOUT OR HOW HE APPROACHES
TALK ABOUT OR HOW HE APPROACHES PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PRESIDENT PUTIN. DID PRESIDENT PUTIN GIVE YOU ANY
DID PRESIDENT PUTIN GIVE YOU ANY
DID PRESIDENT PUTIN GIVE YOU ANY HINT WHAT HE MAY WANT, WHAT
HINT WHAT HE MAY WANT, WHAT
HINT WHAT HE MAY WANT, WHAT CONCESSIONS HE WOULD REQUEST
CONCESSIONS HE WOULD REQUEST
CONCESSIONS HE WOULD REQUEST FROM THE PRESIDENT?
FROM THE PRESIDENT?
FROM THE PRESIDENT? >> I THINK WHAT YOU SAW IN MY
>> I THINK WHAT YOU SAW IN MY
>> I THINK WHAT YOU SAW IN MY INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN
INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN
INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN WAS THE MAN THAT YOU ARE LIKELY
WAS THE MAN THAT YOU ARE LIKELY
WAS THE MAN THAT YOU ARE LIKELY TO SEE IN THE ROOM -- WE WON'T
TO SEE IN THE ROOM -- WE WON'T
TO SEE IN THE ROOM -- WE WON'T SEE IT BUT YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE
SEE IT BUT YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE
SEE IT BUT YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE A FLY ON THE WALL IN THE ROOM
A FLY ON THE WALL IN THE ROOM
A FLY ON THE WALL IN THE ROOM WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN.
WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN.
WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN. CONFRONTATIONAL AND THEN
CONFRONTATIONAL AND THEN
CONFRONTATIONAL AND THEN PREPARED TO NEGOTIATE.
PREPARED TO NEGOTIATE.
PREPARED TO NEGOTIATE. I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF PRESIDENT
I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF PRESIDENT
I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF PRESIDENT PUTIN'S PLAYBOOKS IF YOU LIKE.
PUTIN'S PLAYBOOKS IF YOU LIKE.
PUTIN'S PLAYBOOKS IF YOU LIKE. ATTACK, THREATEN, OFFER TO
ATTACK, THREATEN, OFFER TO
ATTACK, THREATEN, OFFER TO NEGOTIATE, SO YOU CAN GET
NEGOTIATE, SO YOU CAN GET
NEGOTIATE, SO YOU CAN GET LEVERAGE.
LEVERAGE.
LEVERAGE. I THINK YOU SEE THAT ON THE
I THINK YOU SEE THAT ON THE
I THINK YOU SEE THAT ON THE BORDER WITH UKRAINE.
BORDER WITH UKRAINE.
BORDER WITH UKRAINE. YOU SEE THAT WITH THE U.S.
YOU SEE THAT WITH THE U.S.
YOU SEE THAT WITH THE U.S. PRISONERS HERE IN RUSSIA.
PRISONERS HERE IN RUSSIA.
PRISONERS HERE IN RUSSIA. YOU SEE THAT AREO WITH HACKING
YOU SEE THAT AREO WITH HACKING
YOU SEE THAT AREO WITH HACKING EVEN WHILE PRESIDENT PUTIN
EVEN WHILE PRESIDENT PUTIN
EVEN WHILE PRESIDENT PUTIN DENIES THAT RUSSIA HAS LAUNCHED
DENIES THAT RUSSIA HAS LAUNCHED
DENIES THAT RUSSIA HAS LAUNCHED CYBERATTACKS AGAINST THE U.S.,
CYBERATTACKS AGAINST THE U.S.,
CYBERATTACKS AGAINST THE U.S., AT THE SAME TIME SAYING BUT I
AT THE SAME TIME SAYING BUT I
AT THE SAME TIME SAYING BUT I WILL NEGOTIATE ON IT.
WILL NEGOTIATE ON IT.
WILL NEGOTIATE ON IT. THE TRICKY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU
THE TRICKY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU
THE TRICKY QUESTION IS WHEN YOU SEE WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN IN
SEE WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN IN
SEE WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN IN ANSWER AFTER ANSWER HE DENIES
ANSWER AFTER ANSWER HE DENIES
ANSWER AFTER ANSWER HE DENIES CHANGES THE SUB.
CHANGES THE SUB.
CHANGES THE SUB. BUT YOU DEAL WITH PRESIDENT
BUT YOU DEAL WITH PRESIDENT
BUT YOU DEAL WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN IS SOMEBODY WHO IS
PUTIN IS SOMEBODY WHO IS
PUTIN IS SOMEBODY WHO IS DIFFICULT TO TRUST.
DIFFICULT TO TRUST.
DIFFICULT TO TRUST. AND THE QUESTION I THINK IS
AND THE QUESTION I THINK IS
AND THE QUESTION I THINK IS WHETHER EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF
WHETHER EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF
WHETHER EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF TRUST CAN BE GAINED SO THAT SOME
TRUST CAN BE GAINED SO THAT SOME
TRUST CAN BE GAINED SO THAT SOME DEALS CAN BE DONE.
DEALS CAN BE DONE.
DEALS CAN BE DONE. I THINK A CRUCIAL ONE WILL BE
I THINK A CRUCIAL ONE WILL BE
I THINK A CRUCIAL ONE WILL BE ARMS CONTROL.
ARMS CONTROL.
ARMS CONTROL. BECAUSE, YOU COULD NEVER -- BOTH
BECAUSE, YOU COULD NEVER -- BOTH
BECAUSE, YOU COULD NEVER -- BOTH THE U.S. AND RUSSIA HAVE VUS
THE U.S. AND RUSSIA HAVE VUS
THE U.S. AND RUSSIA HAVE VUS THOUSANDS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
THOUSANDS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
THOUSANDS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. IT'S CRUCIAL THAT THAT
IT'S CRUCIAL THAT THAT
IT'S CRUCIAL THAT THAT LONG-STANDING HISTORY OF
LONG-STANDING HISTORY OF
LONG-STANDING HISTORY OF NEGOTIATIONS OVER ARMS CONTROL
NEGOTIATIONS OVER ARMS CONTROL
NEGOTIATIONS OVER ARMS CONTROL BETWEEN THE U.S. AND RUSSIA IS
BETWEEN THE U.S. AND RUSSIA IS
BETWEEN THE U.S. AND RUSSIA IS MAINTAINED.
MAINTAINED.
MAINTAINED. THAT'S MANY PEOPLE'S VIEW.
THAT'S MANY PEOPLE'S VIEW.
THAT'S MANY PEOPLE'S VIEW. AND THAT NEW START TREATY, ARMS
AND THAT NEW START TREATY, ARMS
AND THAT NEW START TREATY, ARMS CONTROL TREATY WAS EXTENDED BY
CONTROL TREATY WAS EXTENDED BY
CONTROL TREATY WAS EXTENDED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN MAYBE PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT BIDEN MAYBE PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT BIDEN MAYBE PRESIDENT PUTIN WILL SEE THAT AS A STEP
PUTIN WILL SEE THAT AS A STEP
PUTIN WILL SEE THAT AS A STEP FORWARD.
FORWARD.
FORWARD. PLAIN SPEAKING, THIS IS A VERY,
PLAIN SPEAKING, THIS IS A VERY,
PLAIN SPEAKING, THIS IS A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP.
VERY DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP.
VERY DIFFICULT RELATIONSHIP. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE ARE ISSUES WHERE THESE TWO MEN
ARE ISSUES WHERE THESE TWO MEN
ARE ISSUES WHERE THESE TWO MEN CAN FIND SOME KIND OF COMMON
CAN FIND SOME KIND OF COMMON
CAN FIND SOME KIND OF COMMON GROUND AND MOVE, YOU KNOW, SMALL
GROUND AND MOVE, YOU KNOW, SMALL
GROUND AND MOVE, YOU KNOW, SMALL STEPS FORWARD.
STEPS FORWARD.
STEPS FORWARD. >> YEAH, PRESIDENT BIDEN
>> YEAH, PRESIDENT BIDEN
>> YEAH, PRESIDENT BIDEN CERTAINLY IS HOLDING THAT OUT AS
CERTAINLY IS HOLDING THAT OUT AS
CERTAINLY IS HOLDING THAT OUT AS HE SPOKE TO REPORTERS A MOMENT
HE SPOKE TO REPORTERS A MOMENT
HE SPOKE TO REPORTERS A MOMENT AGO.
AGO.
AGO. YOUR INTERVIEW CERTAINLY OPENING
YOUR INTERVIEW CERTAINLY OPENING
YOUR INTERVIEW CERTAINLY OPENING A CLEARER WINDOW AS TO WHAT
A CLEARER WINDOW AS TO WHAT
A CLEARER WINDOW AS TO WHAT THESE CONVERSATIONS COULD LOOK
THESE CONVERSATIONS COULD LOOK
THESE CONVERSATIONS COULD LOOK LIKE, KEIR SIMMONS, THANK YOU
LIKE, KEIR SIMMONS, THANK YOU
LIKE, KEIR SIMMONS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY MUCH.
VERY MUCH. JOINING ME NOW IS KASIE HUNT FOR
JOINING ME NOW IS KASIE HUNT FOR
JOINING ME NOW IS KASIE HUNT FOR THE VIEW AND HOW ALL OF THIS IS
THE VIEW AND HOW ALL OF THIS IS
THE VIEW AND HOW ALL OF THIS IS SEEN IN CONGRESS.
SEEN IN CONGRESS.
SEEN IN CONGRESS. KASIE?
KASIE?
KASIE? >> LESTER, I THINK ONE OF THE
>> LESTER, I THINK ONE OF THE
>> LESTER, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL PIECES OF THEY IS
MOST CRITICAL PIECES OF THEY IS
MOST CRITICAL PIECES OF THEY IS AMERICA'S POWER ABROAD REALLY
AMERICA'S POWER ABROAD REALLY
AMERICA'S POWER ABROAD REALLY DEPENDS ON UNITY HERE AT HOME.
DEPENDS ON UNITY HERE AT HOME.
DEPENDS ON UNITY HERE AT HOME. FRANKLY, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF
FRANKLY, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF
FRANKLY, WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT.
THAT.
THAT. PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ASKED, OF
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ASKED, OF
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS ASKED, OF COURSE, WHAT HE WAS SAYING TO
COURSE, WHAT HE WAS SAYING TO
COURSE, WHAT HE WAS SAYING TO ALLIES ABOUT THE RIOT THAT
ALLIES ABOUT THE RIOT THAT
ALLIES ABOUT THE RIOT THAT HAPPENED AT THE U.S. CAPITOL ON
HAPPENED AT THE U.S. CAPITOL ON
HAPPENED AT THE U.S. CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6th, THE QUESTION -- HOW
JANUARY 6th, THE QUESTION -- HOW
JANUARY 6th, THE QUESTION -- HOW CAN YOU STAND UP AND SAY WE NEED
CAN YOU STAND UP AND SAY WE NEED
CAN YOU STAND UP AND SAY WE NEED TO TRUST IN DEMOCRACY, WHEN IN
TO TRUST IN DEMOCRACY, WHEN IN
TO TRUST IN DEMOCRACY, WHEN IN FACT HERE IN AMERICA IT'S
FACT HERE IN AMERICA IT'S
FACT HERE IN AMERICA IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN CHALLENGED IN THIS
ACTUALLY BEEN CHALLENGED IN THIS
ACTUALLY BEEN CHALLENGED IN THIS WAY.
WAY.
WAY. HE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON THE UNITY,
HE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON THE UNITY,
HE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON THE UNITY, PROJECTING A SENSE OF UNITY,
PROJECTING A SENSE OF UNITY,
PROJECTING A SENSE OF UNITY, TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN
TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN
TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BEING DECENT AND
PEOPLE BEING DECENT AND
PEOPLE BEING DECENT AND HONORABLE, AND SAYING THAT THOSE
HONORABLE, AND SAYING THAT THOSE
HONORABLE, AND SAYING THAT THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THAT ATTACK ON THE
WHO SUPPORTED THAT ATTACK ON THE
WHO SUPPORTED THAT ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL ARE JUST A FRACTION OF
CAPITOL ARE JUST A FRACTION OF
CAPITOL ARE JUST A FRACTION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, A FRACTION
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, A FRACTION
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, A FRACTION OF THE POPULACE BEING THE TRUMP
OF THE POPULACE BEING THE TRUMP
OF THE POPULACE BEING THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO WOULD ENGAGE IN
SUPPORTERS WHO WOULD ENGAGE IN
SUPPORTERS WHO WOULD ENGAGE IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS REMARKABLE TO SEE BIDEN
IT WAS REMARKABLE TO SEE BIDEN
IT WAS REMARKABLE TO SEE BIDEN TALK SO MUCH ABOUT DOMESTIC
TALK SO MUCH ABOUT DOMESTIC
TALK SO MUCH ABOUT DOMESTIC POLITICS WHILE ABROAD.
POLITICS WHILE ABROAD.
POLITICS WHILE ABROAD. FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT FOLLOW THOSE NORMS, BUT
FOLLOW THOSE NORMS, BUT
FOLLOW THOSE NORMS, BUT PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS TRIED TO
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS TRIED TO
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS TRIED TO RETURN TO THAT.
RETURN TO THAT.
RETURN TO THAT. HE TALKED ABOUT REPUBLICANS
HE TALKED ABOUT REPUBLICANS
HE TALKED ABOUT REPUBLICANS BEING A MUCH DIMINISHED PARTY,
BEING A MUCH DIMINISHED PARTY,
BEING A MUCH DIMINISHED PARTY, THEIR LEADERSHIP BEING
THEIR LEADERSHIP BEING
THEIR LEADERSHIP BEING FRACTURED, AND WANTED TO FOCUS
FRACTURED, AND WANTED TO FOCUS
FRACTURED, AND WANTED TO FOCUS INSTEAD ON THE OVERALL ARC OF
INSTEAD ON THE OVERALL ARC OF
INSTEAD ON THE OVERALL ARC OF HISTORY, WHICH HE SAYS SHOWS
HISTORY, WHICH HE SAYS SHOWS
HISTORY, WHICH HE SAYS SHOWS AMERICA IS CAPABLE OF GETTING
AMERICA IS CAPABLE OF GETTING
AMERICA IS CAPABLE OF GETTING THROUGH CHALLENGES LIKE THERE
THROUGH CHALLENGES LIKE THERE
THROUGH CHALLENGES LIKE THERE AND STILL EMERGING AS A STRONG
AND STILL EMERGING AS A STRONG
AND STILL EMERGING AS A STRONG DEMOCRACY.
DEMOCRACY.
DEMOCRACY. TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHILE ABROAD
TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHILE ABROAD
TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHILE ABROAD HOW THOSE MESSAGES OF DEMOCRACY
HOW THOSE MESSAGES OF DEMOCRACY
HOW THOSE MESSAGES OF DEMOCRACY AGAINST AUTOCRACY STILL SHOULD
AGAINST AUTOCRACY STILL SHOULD
AGAINST AUTOCRACY STILL SHOULD HAVE RESONANCE WITH AMERICANS,
HAVE RESONANCE WITH AMERICANS,
HAVE RESONANCE WITH AMERICANS, AND THAT AMERICANS ARE THE ONES
AND THAT AMERICANS ARE THE ONES
AND THAT AMERICANS ARE THE ONES TO CARRY IT FORWARD ON THE WORLD
TO CARRY IT FORWARD ON THE WORLD
TO CARRY IT FORWARD ON THE WORLD STAGE, LESTER.
STAGE, LESTER.
STAGE, LESTER. >> KASIE HUNT, THANK YOU.
>> KASIE HUNT, THANK YOU.
>> KASIE HUNT, THANK YOU. ALSO NOTABLE, THE PRESIDENT LED
ALSO NOTABLE, THE PRESIDENT LED
ALSO NOTABLE, THE PRESIDENT LED OFF WITH A DOMESTIC AUDIENCE,
OFF WITH A DOMESTIC AUDIENCE,
OFF WITH A DOMESTIC AUDIENCE, TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE
TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE
TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE AMERICANS TO BE VACCINATED.
AMERICANS TO BE VACCINATED.
AMERICANS TO BE VACCINATED. >>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR COVERAGE
>>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR COVERAGE
>>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR COVERAGE OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S REMARKS.
OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S REMARKS.
OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S REMARKS. WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE TONIGHT ON
WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE TONIGHT ON
WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE TONIGHT ON "NIGHTLY NEWS", INCLUDING MORE
"NIGHTLY NEWS", INCLUDING MORE
"NIGHTLY NEWS", INCLUDING MORE OF KEIR SIMMONS' WITH PRESIDENT
OF KEIR SIMMONS' WITH PRESIDENT
OF KEIR SIMMONS' WITH PRESIDENT PUTIN.
PUTIN.